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Competition from Aion may be good for World of Warcraft .
googajoob7
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No one really knows whats going to happen in the coming months if we are honest .
The trolls are normally basing their arguements on the same limited amount of play as flamers or are telling lies about playing on asian servers or just hav nt played it at all by thier own admitance . The thing about AION which is different to Age of Conan and Warhammer is that it appears to already be a success in the asian market .
Its hard to tell how well it is doing against Warcraft in that market because Blizzard hav nt released any subscription number and because of the situation in China regarding WoW .What popular in Asian culture may or may not transfer well over to the western markets but it has nt stopped solo games , animation and movies crossing the divide before and theres no reason why it should nt stop mmos .
Warcraft is really a game aimed at pve with a side serving of pvp these days ( that may have been different in the past ) its also a game aimed at younger players and casual gamers (again that may have been different in the past ) . WoW has lost its edge . Its more of a theme park ride .I like pvp its what i enjoyed most about WoW . So for people like me Aion will hopefully offer a better alternative .
Ultimatly there is room for both AION and WoW . We are assuming theres only going to be 20-30 million mmo gamers on the planet . EVER . I dont think thats the case . I think the more decent games are about the more people it will attract . WoW may lose a couple of million subs to AION . Then again it may be that people will pay for both games or alternate between the two . If AION is a success WoW wont go under it wont kill WoW . It ll enchance it . Blizzard will have to look to why people prefer Aion . Maybe they ll reverse some of the changes that they ve made that have led people to leave and WoW will be a stronger game for it . Lets face it we have seen what vitual manopoly has done to WoW .
The Cataclysm appears to be an attempt to address this . If done right it could be successful and although i m keeping an open mind so far i ve yet to hear anything that is tackling any of the issues that are leading me to leave Warcraft . Ultimatly i ve lost faith in Blizzard but with some fierce competition from Aion they may start to put right the things that have gone wrong in WoW .Of course i m sure many fanbois will say its still brilliant and produce xfire figures , links to obscure sites or quote the guiness book of records entry to prove its still doing well .
but facts are facts Blizzard hav nt released subscription numbers in nearly 10 months and still show no sign of doing so . The time is right for Aion its got some big shoes to fill lets hope they dont have some holes in them .
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I don't see how it competes with WoW's bread and butter PvE crowd, it still doesn't anywhere close to content in that regard: 2 starter areas, no seamless world, 1 end game instance etc. It will mainly drawin in the PvP players in WoW (very small portion), F2P MMOs, WAR and AoC. As for Aion in China have heard that lot of servers there are empty (they opened too many) can't confirm it since i never don't have account there.
yep china censorship comition had a lot to do in wow situation
they protect their game market wich if we did here like they do in china we would pass for the bad guys
coming back to your subject its true that right now in the whole gaming market you could replace the aion world with this ?
but some player do play asian version of aion,
but its hardly conclusive ,we dont use same way to control toon etc
the game is actually good
but as a lot of gamer stated here ,aoc ,war are good game too they can rival aion ,and even so they re not played as much as say guild wars.
so is the content in aion enough?good question
will player ask for interactivity ?
probably will!
wow is a great game ,but player want more then wow way now
but since this is ncsoft we talk about the only game dev right now that can say they are the closest to wow
so maybe they got a trump card ,some plan that will gather all player
they did very very good with guild wars ,and the one that made guild wars
are in ncwest stable ,so dont look shocked to see some surprise from there
GWs has nothing to do with NCSoft they were the publisher, the game was devoloped and managed by ArenaNet. Same is true with CoH (Cyrptic till 08). In other hand NCSoft has poor track record in NA in the game it did devolop TR, Lineage 2 etc latter had ton of bot/hack problems. Hopefully NCSoft west is little more competent now.
GWs has nothing to do with NCSoft they were the publisher, the game was devoloped and managed by ArenaNet. Same is true with CoH (Cyrptic till 08). In other hand NCSoft has poor track record in NA in the game it did devolop TR, Lineage 2 etc latter had ton of bot/hack problems. Hopefully NCSoft west is little more competent now.
true ncsoft did porly compared to arenanet
but ncwest now include arenanet if im not mistaken
and aion na release is from ncwest ,but true it was originate from ncsoft
so if we use that route its true the track record of ncsoft is lack luster compared to arenanet and all that gang
kind of confusing
basicly ncwest is better then ncsoft (ncwest being arenanet and all the other there)
You are right
"On September 10, 2008, NCsoft announced that all their North American and European subsidiaries, including ArenaNet, were to be governed by a new division named NC West (a tentative name), headquartered in Seattle, Washington.[5] ArenaNet will no longer report directly to NCsoft Korea.[6] Three of ArenaNet's executives will leave ArenaNet to assume leadership positions in this new organization: Chris Chung will become its CEO, Jeff Strain its president, and Patrick Wyatt its CTO. Guild Wars 2 will continue under the direction of Mike O'Brien, who remains at ArenaNet.[6]
Interesting read OP. Personally out of my hatred for Blizzard after I left, deep down I wouldn't mind if Aion kills WoW...will it really? Of course not, but will it take the giant down a noch, yeah... it's already doing so.
As for endgame talk again, I honestly believe 95% of MMO players don't really know what they want in an end-game. That might seem like a bold statement but when WoW first came out I don't remember people in vannilla WoW screaming over PvE content. Moreso they just wanted to do w/e was to do at "the end". I think the same will be here in Aion. Considering the fact that almost all the people that are gunna play Aion have once played or are still playing WoW, PvE content is all they know how to do. Aion's strange twist of their end game people really don't know how to recieve yet in NA/EU. I think for people that give it a honest shot will come to like what Aion offers.
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GWs has nothing to do with NCSoft they were the publisher, the game was devoloped and managed by ArenaNet. Same is true with CoH (Cyrptic till 08). In other hand NCSoft has poor track record in NA in the game it did devolop TR, Lineage 2 etc latter had ton of bot/hack problems. Hopefully NCSoft west is little more competent now.
Um you do know that NCsoft actually OWNS ArenaNet right? In other words you could perfectly say that NCsoft developed GW. Also ArenaNet is now governed by NCWest so people are right in being optimistic towards the bots and hacks problems, even though there's also a possibility of it going down the L2 route (bot-wise).
EDIT: Sorry was a bit too late, nvm.
I agree that WoW needs competition but it certainly isn't coming from Aion. Guild Wars 2 and The Old Republic will be tons better than Aion.
ty for the actual info i had just basic of the thing
hell ncsoft made a great move by creating ncwest if its not on too short a leach it could surprise
Guild Wars 2 was recently announced why do you think it will give WoW compitition ..
what are you basing that on.
ToR could give them "some" competition since its cartoony but just accept it people wow players are wow players..
alot of the wow players have only played one mmo. WoW.
Anyway i think aion could take some subs from wow but wow players allways go back.
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Guild Wars 2 was recently announced why do you think it will give WoW compitition ..
what are you basing that on.
ToR could give them "some" competition since its cartoony but just accept it people wow players are wow players..
alot of the wow players have only played one mmo. WoW.
Anyway i think aion could take some subs from wow but wow players allways go back.
1. The original Guild Wars was a huge success. Sold over 5 million copies of tha game and Arenanet has a loyal fanbase like Blizzard has with it's games.
2. With adding a persistant world and a higher level cap in Guild Wars 2 it will only make the game more accessible to mmo players.
3. Guild Wars will be a free to play mmo.
4. Arenanet is probably one of the most talented devlopers in gaming. The Guild Wars 2 trailer was done byt he Arenent staff while most developers usually hire other companies to do their cgi work.
Guild Wars 2 was recently announced why do you think it will give WoW compitition ..
what are you basing that on.
ToR could give them "some" competition since its cartoony but just accept it people wow players are wow players..
alot of the wow players have only played one mmo. WoW.
Anyway i think aion could take some subs from wow but wow players allways go back.
1. The original Guild Wars was a huge success. Sold over 5 million copies of tha game and Arenanet has a loyal fanbase like Blizzard has with it's games.
2. With adding a persistant world and a higher level cap in Guild Wars 2 it will only make the game more accessible to mmo players.
3. Guild Wars will be a free to play mmo.
4. Arenanet is probably one of the most talented devlopers in gaming. The Guild Wars 2 trailer was done byt he Arenent staff while most developers usually hire other companies to do their cgi work.
So your basing this on a CGI and a feeling in your gut.
This would be ok if annyone at all had played the game.
A real wow competitor would have to be able to run on the same specs as WoW and guild wars 2 wont do that.
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I don't see Aion defeating WoW in the subscription wars here in the West. Aion is to "asian", and the forced PvP is a turn off to many. Let us not forget that it has Gameguard, which is generally hated in the west. So, I see Aion retaining about a 100-150k subscription base here in the west and that is far from WoW numbers. That number may drop as the bots overpopulate servers. We can only wait and see, though. No one really knows at this point.
It may have been said already, but it needs to be said again. Who cares if Aion is competition to WoW or not? An MMO's success these days seems to be tied to how it compares to WoW when it should be based on it's own merits. I've bought Aion because it has a unique look and feel with familiar elements to keep me interested. WoW was just another fantasy based MMO that for me, after EQ and DAoC, I didn't need or want to experience again.
City of Heroes is unique and fun. It does not give WoW any competition whatsoever however it is a successful game. Guess I'm really just rambling here but I so dislike the inevitable comparisons to WoW that follow any announcement or release of a new MMO.
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Darkheat..the game is seamless. Only time you can't use flight paths is to get to like the 2 main cities, other then that you can run, take flight paths so how is it NOT seamless? I don't know if you played 1.5 or not but there are 12 dungeons end game (or whatever end game is to you). It has plenty of content and seeing what they've added in a year of release of Korea I'd say they're doing fine content wise. Most people coming to this game aren't here to spend 4 hours raiding scripted mobs.
It is zoned not a seamless world you can fly within the zone. But take portals to move to another zones similar to WAR.
www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php
As for the world layout for Aion, the team decided to create a zone-based MMO, as opposed to a 'seamless world' that is more trendy in today's MMOs. This was done so that the developers could concentrate the high quality content in specific areas. But nonetheless, the game has persistent world elements, because factional warfare is a big part of the title's charm.
i would like to know is Aion really worth it to start to play, im currently playing EQ2 and waiting for SWTOR to come out.
It is trully amazing that in year 2009 people are still paying blizzard to play same old WOW.
Nothing has changed in that game i played it for 4 years , scripted mobs will always be scripted mobs nothing new ,nothing fresh.
Get over it , more games are being released , try them u might find out ur beloved wow is not the best game around.
I really hope Aion does well in the west , and we have some fun killing each other in some real open world PVP .
You will be surprised, thats for sure! But you can be 99% sure that Aion will be at least the 2nd place in MMO history, which means at least 300k+ subscribers... I would even say that Aion will reach 700k+ even after 3 month with a tendecy to rise and not to fall!
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Guild Wars 2 was recently announced why do you think it will give WoW compitition ..
what are you basing that on.
ToR could give them "some" competition since its cartoony but just accept it people wow players are wow players..
alot of the wow players have only played one mmo. WoW.
Anyway i think aion could take some subs from wow but wow players allways go back.
1. The original Guild Wars was a huge success. Sold over 5 million copies of tha game and Arenanet has a loyal fanbase like Blizzard has with it's games.
2. With adding a persistant world and a higher level cap in Guild Wars 2 it will only make the game more accessible to mmo players.
3. Guild Wars will be a free to play mmo.
4. Arenanet is probably one of the most talented devlopers in gaming. The Guild Wars 2 trailer was done byt he Arenent staff while most developers usually hire other companies to do their cgi work.
So your basing this on a CGI and a feeling in your gut.
This would be ok if annyone at all had played the game.
A real wow competitor would have to be able to run on the same specs as WoW and guild wars 2 wont do that.
nope on fact call your friend tell him you ll go see him play pvp in guild wars ask him to show you ingame footage from guild wars best.its way more quiet then before but player still play did you see the image not a lot of pvp game can show graphic
like those with so little ressource needed ,that a what 3 -4 years old game
You will be surprised, thats for sure! But you can be 99% sure that Aion will be at least the 2nd place in MMO history, which means at least 300k+ subscribers... I would even say that Aion will reach 700k+ even after 3 month with a tendecy to rise and not to fall!
Open Beta showed 250K players. They'll start with 12 EU and 12 NA servers. NCsoft says 300K (inlusive free Beta keys no doubt).
Both War and Aoc had 500K before launch day.
Easy to predict and easy to follow tx to Xfire:
Launch week: 400K and after 6 months 100-150 K .
The good: the fans can rejoice because the servers are (on purpose) set to 12/12 so they can add a few ones in the opening days. NCsoft is smart.
The bad: the number of servers and Xfire stats will show how this game will do AFTER the subscriptions set in (6 weeks past launch).
OP: good try for a WOW hating troll : but Aion is not even a competition to WOW. War and AoC were: they are now on intensive care.
mm ,the boss of ncwest is arenanet(gw game)
so those guys may annouce futur stuff like they did in gw it wouldnt be the first time
i bet the leach this time on that crew can stretch much more then when they published gw
wich could make a lot of interesting thing happen soon
the game its self doesnt have the epic to compete with wow
but it wouldnt take lot of stuff
live is a big thing right now athene showed that
the next big game will be very interactive
like live event ,some kind of real reward etc like blizzard showed at blizzcon this year
but on another scale ,even blizzard knows this ,their unnamed game is going towards that
battlenet new system is being overgeared toward that end
etc 1 thing is sure aion got till cataclysm release to show off then if they made
good stuff cataclysm wont mather people will stay with aion for whatever event ncsoft will organise
or they ll relly on the game strenght only and be same spot aoc and war are right now
You will be surprised, thats for sure! But you can be 99% sure that Aion will be at least the 2nd place in MMO history, which means at least 300k+ subscribers... I would even say that Aion will reach 700k+ even after 3 month with a tendecy to rise and not to fall!
You've gotta be kidding me. Aion already has 3.5 million subscribers, the West including Oceania, Europe and North America will raise it to about 4 million, probably won't pass WoW though.
I'm waiting for 40k. I'd say yes it's worth playing, it's unique in many ways but Aion also has many familiar MMO elements common in others. I had vowed no more fantasy genre, but this one just a different feel to it. I haven't had the opportunity in Beta to experience character development, but I see a lot of potential here. The PvPvE, to me, is the most balanced I've seen in any game. But it really depends ln what you're looking for to fill the gap. There is of course the grind like any other, but it's presented in a way that it doesn't feel much like it, at least in the lower levels.
-Gorlik Pustular
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Won't be all that much competition eh.