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General: AGDC '09: Turbine Working on Console MMO
MikeB
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Turbine has announced at this year's Austin Game Developers Conference that they are working on a new console MMOG. The report, which appeared originally over at Massively, reveals that Turbine is interested in releasing the MMO on both the 360 and the PS3, and that the release date is targeted for 2011.
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No solid details on what the MMOG actually is, or what kind of features it will offer as of yet, but Turbine's VP of Project Development Craig Alexander offered some interesting comments in his talk on the future of console MMOGs, saying that he expects console MMOGs to eventually pass PC MMOGs, so it is important for Turbine to get involved. Mr. Alexander also hinted at the possibility of the title being free-to-play stating, "MMOs should have minimum friction to access."
Via Massively.
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Um, where did they say anything about casual? Or did the (RE) poster of this article on MMORPG.com, VIA massively VIA where every they got it, assume that it is because its on a console?
Internet journalism powered by the CTRL-C and CTRL-V + Opinion and assumption.
Oh, NVM, it looks like the copy/paster here, assumed.
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I'm really not sure where you got the idea that this game was "casual" from my news piece.
I'm really not sure where you got the idea that this game was "casual" from my news piece.
Probably from the part you edited out.
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How are you?" -Me
I'm really not sure where you got the idea that this game was "casual" from my news piece.
Probably from the part you edited out.
Not likely, I only edited in some punctuation, and corrected the spelling of "minimum". If there is something legitimately off, I'd be glad to correct it, but unless you can provide me with the details I can't do much.
Old news but answer me this. Why would I wan't to buy their console mmo when they can't even make a good mmo for the pc ?
I think Turbine did a great job on LOTRO. DDO is a decent game, it just didnt fit what i was looking for at the time i tried it. Im very anxious to try an MMO on my new toy (PS3) so if this upcoming console MMO is something im interested in, such as fantasy or sci-fi, i will give it a try.
Uhh, they make outstanding MMO's.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Unless I see consoles with mice and keyboards, they most certainly won't over take PC's as the choice of MMO's. I don't see any new consoles coming out in the near future to change this either. Who knows what the future will bring, but I am willing to bet Turbine is wrong in this.
This again?
PS3 Supports USB keyboards and mince. It is up to the DEVELOPERS to make the GAME support them. And it just so happens that it says it will right on the slide.
The near future passed you about 2 years ago.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Well we know where the futre of ddo, and lotro are headed. The last time I saw this kind of anoucemnet we got the NGE done to swg.
So .... DDO is going to consoles =/ Nice to know.
Before you flame me, there's no mention of DDO there anywhere ...but if they continue with the pattern of using DDO as their guinea pig for projects, wouldn't be surprised if they do.
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This is just a new trend in moving games away from the PC when in reality it might be a good short term economical plan but in the long term it will hurt. Reason I say that as the Everquest console MMO did not do well and from what I last read most of the FF MMO players are PC over console. PC's have a longer ability to grow because unlike a console you can upgrade a pc. Alot of game companies are forgetting PC's when alot of pc gamers would rather spend the money and upgrade thier PC then buy a console.
Also the way tools for developers are you can make a PC and console game more easily. That was the WHOLE purpose of Microsoft and XNA the ability to create X-Box 360 and PC games more easy. Yet companies will develop the games only for the X Box and forgot the longevity and lucrative PC gaming market like Lucas Arts. I hope this is NOT the new MMO trend.
If you read Massively's article, you'd know it's new IP so not DDO nor LotrO, obviously. It's just better to do an mmo from scratch for consoles.
Plus, they've acquired some "big new IP". I wonder what IP can be left and so big, that they say it equals D&D and LotR.
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This is a great argument...lets take a failed attempt at moving the MMO genre to the console via EQ...umm 8 years ago I think? On the PS2? Give me a break. And Final Fantasy was a pretty successful MMO, and it actually ran better on my PS2 then it did on my computer at the time.
And another point of interest, the reason some people are moving to consoles and away from PC's is because of the developers need to add the newest greatest most impressive graphics engine. With a PC I find myself upgrading my $150 to $300 dollar video cards on average of about 18 months, only because the newest and latest game won't run on anyhting more then medium graphics.
With consoles I have to upgrade once every 4 years or so, minus the occasional additional component.
I hate to say it, but the day that one of these developers successfully pulls off a good MMORPG on a console, then the fight will be on. Hell my phone can do damn near as much as my computer shy of gaming, so when the next generation of consoles come out, I will imagine they will more or less be a hybrid of computer and console.
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Yeah, I think they got a good thing going. Sort of like they are becoming ready to lift the burden from PC;s with the MMOG genera. Then, the PC pubs can focus on deeper dimensions with MMORPG's. Another good thing is that its creates more job-ops for designers.
This is a great argument...lets take a failed attempt at moving the MMO genre to the console via EQ...umm 8 years ago I think? On the PS2? Give me a break. And Final Fantasy was a pretty successful MMO, and it actually ran better on my PS2 then it did on my computer at the time.
And another point of interest, the reason some people are moving to consoles and away from PC's is because of the developers need to add the newest greatest most impressive graphics engine. With a PC I find myself upgrading my $150 to $300 dollar video cards on average of about 18 months, only because the newest and latest game won't run on anyhting more then medium graphics.
With consoles I have to upgrade once every 4 years or so, minus the occasional additional component.
I hate to say it, but the day that one of these developers successfully pulls off a good MMORPG on a console, then the fight will be on. Hell my phone can do damn near as much as my computer shy of gaming, so when the next generation of consoles come out, I will imagine they will more or less be a hybrid of computer and console.
Those are good points but don't get me wrong this is not a console vs PC thing tbh games should be released for both right now there is not many games I cannot play on my PC and in the end alot of games look better and play better on a PC. I think the trend of console only games is the problem same with PC only games.
Financially it would benifit them to release it on both consoles and PC as good PC games last longer then most console games and thus they are losing out on millions of dollars a year. Heck with a MMO I know friends who have pc's and consoles and they have told me they would love to be able to play them on both depending on the mood or thier RL. I have nothing against MMOG's going to console but my issue is the market of PC Gamers that prefer to put money into thier PC then buying a console and they should not be left out for short term sights.
Maybe evil races in lotr mmo? PVP cross platform? Mmmmm...i could dig that. Console vs PC fighting.
I can dream. Don't know if that would be possible either, just guessing.
And do they get paid by Sony and MS to say console mmo's will surpass PC, or change the definition of MMOs? Or talking 20 years in the future? Would be nice to have them explain when and why for once. I hear it everytime someone talks about console MMO's.
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This is a great argument...lets take a failed attempt at moving the MMO genre to the console via EQ...umm 8 years ago I think? On the PS2? Give me a break. And Final Fantasy was a pretty successful MMO, and it actually ran better on my PS2 then it did on my computer at the time.
And another point of interest, the reason some people are moving to consoles and away from PC's is because of the developers need to add the newest greatest most impressive graphics engine. With a PC I find myself upgrading my $150 to $300 dollar video cards on average of about 18 months, only because the newest and latest game won't run on anyhting more then medium graphics.
With consoles I have to upgrade once every 4 years or so, minus the occasional additional component.
I hate to say it, but the day that one of these developers successfully pulls off a good MMORPG on a console, then the fight will be on. Hell my phone can do damn near as much as my computer shy of gaming, so when the next generation of consoles come out, I will imagine they will more or less be a hybrid of computer and console.
Those are good points but don't get me wrong this is not a console vs PC thing tbh games should be released for both right now there is not many games I cannot play on my PC and in the end alot of games look better and play better on a PC. I think the trend of console only games is the problem same with PC only games.
Financially it would benifit them to release it on both consoles and PC as good PC games last longer then most console games and thus they are losing out on millions of dollars a year. Heck with a MMO I know friends who have pc's and consoles and they have told me they would love to be able to play them on both depending on the mood or thier RL. I have nothing against MMOG's going to console but my issue is the market of PC Gamers that prefer to put money into thier PC then buying a console and they should not be left out for short term sights.
They would never abandon PC's. As you said there is too much money to be made there. In fact I don't doubt if developers get a kickback for useing an engine that would force most people to upgrade video cards.
And I also have to say, you are correct on the people that own both, PC and console. I for one have a PC in my home office. My laptop that travels the house, and my Xbox360 in the bedroom for my "quiet time" I would love to have the option to play an MMO on my office PC, my living room with my laptop, and my bedroom on the 360. As you said, then no matter my mood, I can play somewhere.
Also I think being able to lower graphical standards so that laptops can run a game is a must, I bought a new laptop this year because my old laptop wouldn't run my MMO of choice, I got stuck out of town on bussiness for a week, and had awesome internet via the motel, but no game due to no graphics card in the laptop.
My current laptop runs it, but only on medium to high graphics. and it runs hot doing it. Not saying they should scrap graphics, but honestly the game play/mechanics are more important then the graphics to me.......
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[quote]Craig has now said, and we quote, "Under no circumstances should you attempt to port a title." This now looks to be a brand new console IP for Turbine.[/quote]
Granted the staff here seems to have left this out, but still, reading leads to full understanding. I swear this site attracts some of the ......
Ill leave it at that.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
i call shnanigans. If you buying a low end laptop of course it won't play games. Sorry but you pay a price for portability. For 600 bucks you get a moble office or a decent gaming rig in a desktop. My laptop is 3 years old. Has a current street value of $600 bucks and had a dedicated gpu. And it can run City of Heroes, World of Warcraft, and Lord of the Rings on max, Champions in medium.
You can game on a laptop, especially mmos but not if your buying a net book.
i call shnanigans. If you buying a low end laptop of course it won't play games. Sorry but you pay a price for portability. For 600 bucks you get a moble office or a decent gaming rig in a desktop. My laptop is 3 years old. Has a current street value of $600 bucks and had a dedicated gpu. And it can run City of Heroes, World of Warcraft, and Lord of the Rings on max, Champions in medium.
You can game on a laptop, especially mmos but not if your buying a net book.
so what are you calling me on? I already said my new laptop can run pretty much the same as what you said, and my laptop cost me $750. You are talking about a 3 year old laptop that has a current street value of $600 <street value?> which would equal out to paying what? $3500 for it new? because you can buy my 3 year old $2000 dollar desktop for about $499 now.
And as I said newer games, you can only run on Medium at best...so whats the point of the awesome graphics if you can't use them to their potential until the next generation of video cards come out? When EQ2 came out only one of the people in my guild managed to run it on max settings, and then only got like 20fps. and we all had video card bought with in the year. He was the only one that spent $300+ on a card.
I say stop increasing graphics for a year and work on story line, a lot of todays MMO's last a year or so because the graphics are great, but the game sucks.
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i call shnanigans. If you buying a low end laptop of course it won't play games. Sorry but you pay a price for portability. For 600 bucks you get a moble office or a decent gaming rig in a desktop. My laptop is 3 years old. Has a current street value of $600 bucks and had a dedicated gpu. And it can run City of Heroes, World of Warcraft, and Lord of the Rings on max, Champions in medium.
You can game on a laptop, especially mmos but not if your buying a net book.
so what are you calling me on? I already said my new laptop can run pretty much the same as what you said, and my laptop cost me $750. You are talking about a 3 year old laptop that has a current street value of $600 <street value?> which would equal out to paying what? $3500 for it new? because you can buy my 3 year old $2000 dollar desktop for about $499 now.
And as I said newer games, you can only run on Medium at best...so whats the point of the awesome graphics if you can't use them to their potential until the next generation of video cards come out? When EQ2 came out only one of the people in my guild managed to run it on max settings, and then only got like 20fps. and we all had video card bought with in the year. He was the only one that spent $300+ on a card.
I say stop increasing graphics for a year and work on story line, a lot of todays MMO's last a year or so because the graphics are great, but the game sucks.
I'm calling you on "laptops run hot and cant run high end cause of no dedicated gpu"
which is plainly fase, cuase they do have GPU, they don't all run hot. and you could do it new or used for roughy the same value
I used to think the same thing, with PC games over all, but now that console games have out sold PC games for the past few years now, it seems like evolution, that we have console mmo's, a step in the evolution of games I am not thrilled about, consoles are nice but have along way, to catch up with what my PC can do with a game.. I am not gona say never, unless a console game comes out and blows my sox off, I don't see myself investing in a console for a while, My experience with Turbine has been a good one, gona take the wait and see approach here, only time will tell..:)