CO is failing, even before I canceled and stopped playing the numbers of people online were dropping.
WTF are you talking about Ethion? Just last Sunday there were over 20 instances of each major zone. That its about the same as I saw three weeks ago.
It was stated in an interview that CO needs about 100k subs to be considered a success. What evidence do you have that CO has under 100k subs? None I bet. I think you just decided one day that you don't like the game and are now pissed off or bored and decided to start telling people how CO is failing.
Its the norm for any MMOG to have a big first month and then settle down to the fanbase. There are thousands of people who buy every new MMOG, play it like mad for a few weeks, then stop and wait for the next release. There is nothing particularly wrong with that. Considering how many hours of gameplay those people got out of the game I don't see how anyone could have considered it a rip off or that the game failed to entertain them. Its nearly unanimous that people say the game is fun.
So the game isn't a financial failure, at least you can't claim that without being privy to sub numbers. Its not an entertainment failure because most people agree that the game is really fun to play. Its not a value failure because people are getting at least 80+ hours out of this measly $50.00. All it is is a failure to keep Ethion's attention.
I am a big fan of Champions, but after playing till my wrists got RSI for a month I am already looking at taking a break for a week or two. Its part of my normal cycle for any new MMOG, even WoW, EQ, UO, M59 they all get a little old after a few weeks and people need a break. It will give Cryptic some time to get that level 32 content from the test server to live. No sweat, I'm dying to play Risen anyway and it comes out on Friday.
As I said there has been a drop in the people online. 2-3 weeks ago I counted the numbers online in each zone and while the numbers in an instance are similar what has changed is the number of instances. As you say there are around 20 instances no. 2-3 weeks ago there were 30-40 instances. The numbers per instances were similar.
Don't get me wrong there are still quite a lot of people playing, I'm just saying that the numbers playing are decreasing and the free play month hasn't run out and the sub numbers don't have a huge amount of headroom if they want to be considered a success, ie 100k subs. I'm assuming we can agree that 100k number wasn't meant to be just a first month number but rather a persistent number right?
So how many subs does CO have? I'm assuming you would agree that the number is important when you are claiming that CO is failing, right?
So how many subs does CO have? I'm assuming you would agree that the number is important when you are claiming that CO is failing, right?
I don't know how many subs they have. I think they peaked between 150-200k. From the people playing I think they are down to maybe 100k who will not be canceled but it might be more
If I had an account I'd do a count of how many people are online. then I'd take that number and multiply it by 8-10 and that will give you a rough range that should be a pretty good measure of the subs.
So how many subs does CO have? I'm assuming you would agree that the number is important when you are claiming that CO is failing, right?
I don't know how many subs they have.
That's what I thought.
In other news, last week CO sales at Direct2Drive were the third highest of MMOG's right behind Aion and Fallen Earth who were just released. Sounds like CO is still selling very well.
So how many subs does CO have? I'm assuming you would agree that the number is important when you are claiming that CO is failing, right?
I don't know how many subs they have.
That's what I thought.
In other news, last week CO sales at Direct2Drive were the third highest of MMOG's right behind Aion and Fallen Earth who were just released. Sounds like CO is still selling very well.
Like talking to a wall... Why don't you just do a count on how many people are playing online at prime time and post the number. 3 weeks ago I posted he number and I will see if I can find it. Then we can just compare real data. Here was what I posted on 9/6. Since I posted that there was an area I didn't count and that was the powerhouse. So my 8-9k number was perhaps short by 1000. Although just to be conservative I did bump the number up to 12-13k in my est assuming I might have missed some.
I just did a rough count to see how many people are playing. I estimate around 8-9K not counting Monster Island or Lemura zones. I wouldn't expect that either of those zones would be as populated as canada or desert but even assuming they are that brings the numbers to maybe 12-13k. Subs are maybe 8-10 per player? So right now it looks like CO probably has around 100k-130k subs?
More like trying to talk sense to a rock. Now try counting all those people inside instances, crisis zones, and at character creation. Good luck with that.
More like trying to talk sense to a rock. Now try counting all those people inside instances, crisis zones, and at character creation. Good luck with that.
Agreed, but you also forgot the ones in the powerhouses, crafting shops, champions building (for SG creation), Club Caprice, and PvP scenarios. What a joke.
More like trying to talk sense to a rock. Now try counting all those people inside instances, crisis zones, and at character creation. Good luck with that.
Agreed, but you also forgot the ones in the powerhouses, crafting shops, champions building (for SG creation), Club Caprice, and PvP scenarios. What a joke.
God gave them eyes but they can't see....
anymore discussion here is obviously pointless. Enjoy.
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WTF are you talking about Ethion? Just last Sunday there were over 20 instances of each major zone. That its about the same as I saw three weeks ago.
It was stated in an interview that CO needs about 100k subs to be considered a success. What evidence do you have that CO has under 100k subs? None I bet. I think you just decided one day that you don't like the game and are now pissed off or bored and decided to start telling people how CO is failing.
Its the norm for any MMOG to have a big first month and then settle down to the fanbase. There are thousands of people who buy every new MMOG, play it like mad for a few weeks, then stop and wait for the next release. There is nothing particularly wrong with that. Considering how many hours of gameplay those people got out of the game I don't see how anyone could have considered it a rip off or that the game failed to entertain them. Its nearly unanimous that people say the game is fun.
So the game isn't a financial failure, at least you can't claim that without being privy to sub numbers. Its not an entertainment failure because most people agree that the game is really fun to play. Its not a value failure because people are getting at least 80+ hours out of this measly $50.00. All it is is a failure to keep Ethion's attention.
I am a big fan of Champions, but after playing till my wrists got RSI for a month I am already looking at taking a break for a week or two. Its part of my normal cycle for any new MMOG, even WoW, EQ, UO, M59 they all get a little old after a few weeks and people need a break. It will give Cryptic some time to get that level 32 content from the test server to live. No sweat, I'm dying to play Risen anyway and it comes out on Friday.
As I said there has been a drop in the people online. 2-3 weeks ago I counted the numbers online in each zone and while the numbers in an instance are similar what has changed is the number of instances. As you say there are around 20 instances no. 2-3 weeks ago there were 30-40 instances. The numbers per instances were similar.
Don't get me wrong there are still quite a lot of people playing, I'm just saying that the numbers playing are decreasing and the free play month hasn't run out and the sub numbers don't have a huge amount of headroom if they want to be considered a success, ie 100k subs. I'm assuming we can agree that 100k number wasn't meant to be just a first month number but rather a persistent number right?
So how many subs does CO have? I'm assuming you would agree that the number is important when you are claiming that CO is failing, right?
So how many subs does CO have? I'm assuming you would agree that the number is important when you are claiming that CO is failing, right?
I don't know how many subs they have. I think they peaked between 150-200k. From the people playing I think they are down to maybe 100k who will not be canceled but it might be more
If I had an account I'd do a count of how many people are online. then I'd take that number and multiply it by 8-10 and that will give you a rough range that should be a pretty good measure of the subs.
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Ethion
So how many subs does CO have? I'm assuming you would agree that the number is important when you are claiming that CO is failing, right?
I don't know how many subs they have.
That's what I thought.
In other news, last week CO sales at Direct2Drive were the third highest of MMOG's right behind Aion and Fallen Earth who were just released. Sounds like CO is still selling very well.
So how many subs does CO have? I'm assuming you would agree that the number is important when you are claiming that CO is failing, right?
I don't know how many subs they have.
That's what I thought.
In other news, last week CO sales at Direct2Drive were the third highest of MMOG's right behind Aion and Fallen Earth who were just released. Sounds like CO is still selling very well.
Like talking to a wall... Why don't you just do a count on how many people are playing online at prime time and post the number. 3 weeks ago I posted he number and I will see if I can find it. Then we can just compare real data. Here was what I posted on 9/6. Since I posted that there was an area I didn't count and that was the powerhouse. So my 8-9k number was perhaps short by 1000. Although just to be conservative I did bump the number up to 12-13k in my est assuming I might have missed some.
I just did a rough count to see how many people are playing. I estimate around 8-9K not counting Monster Island or Lemura zones. I wouldn't expect that either of those zones would be as populated as canada or desert but even assuming they are that brings the numbers to maybe 12-13k. Subs are maybe 8-10 per player? So right now it looks like CO probably has around 100k-130k subs?
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Ethion
More like trying to talk sense to a rock. Now try counting all those people inside instances, crisis zones, and at character creation. Good luck with that.
More like trying to talk sense to a rock. Now try counting all those people inside instances, crisis zones, and at character creation. Good luck with that.
Agreed, but you also forgot the ones in the powerhouses, crafting shops, champions building (for SG creation), Club Caprice, and PvP scenarios. What a joke.
More like trying to talk sense to a rock. Now try counting all those people inside instances, crisis zones, and at character creation. Good luck with that.
Agreed, but you also forgot the ones in the powerhouses, crafting shops, champions building (for SG creation), Club Caprice, and PvP scenarios. What a joke.
God gave them eyes but they can't see....
anymore discussion here is obviously pointless. Enjoy.
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Ethion