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  • greed0104greed0104 Member Posts: 2,134
    Originally posted by bloodaxes


    What do you expect ppl? You wanted them to remove gameguard for incompatibility issues they removed it and are trying to find something else or to make it working.
    Now without gameguard there's nothing that blocks them apart of gms ATM yea they could show up more but there isn't only 1 server so it's pretty hard to monitor them all.
    And why should they hire one person per server to block spammers when they don't know how many people will remain after the free month?

    First off GG doesn't do a damn thing, anybody that knows how to use google can find out how to bypass it with little to no effort. I have always thought GG was a joke, you know those people that but the ADT signs in their windows but really don't own the security system? Well switch ADT with Game Guard and it's the same scenario.

    Hiring one person per server to ban accounts would probably KEEP people around. Do you believe people will wanna stay after the first month of being spammed through messages, general chat and mail box while not seeing any effort to stop or cripple gold spammers? 9/10 times I recieve a PM in game it's from a spammer. Earlier tonight I was doing work orders for alchemy, everytime I would turn in my order I would have to scroll up to catch what I was rewarded with because the spammers were flooding the chat.

  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662
    Originally posted by greed0104

    Originally posted by bloodaxes


    What do you expect ppl? You wanted them to remove gameguard for incompatibility issues they removed it and are trying to find something else or to make it working.
    Now without gameguard there's nothing that blocks them apart of gms ATM yea they could show up more but there isn't only 1 server so it's pretty hard to monitor them all.
    And why should they hire one person per server to block spammers when they don't know how many people will remain after the free month?

    First off GG doesn't do a damn thing, anybody that knows how to use google can find out how to bypass it with little to no effort. I have always thought GG was a joke, you know those people that but the ADT signs in their windows but really don't own the security system? Well switch ADT with Game Guard and it's the same scenario.

    Hiring one person per server to ban accounts would probably KEEP people around. Do you believe people will wanna stay after the first month of being spammed through messages, general chat and mail box while not seeing any effort to stop or cripple gold spammers? 9/10 times I recieve a PM in game it's from a spammer. Earlier tonight I was doing work orders for alchemy, everytime I would turn in my order I would have to scroll up to catch what I was rewarded with because the spammers were flooding the chat.

    There are way to bypass it yes but at least could block some of it, as for hiring yes they should but not one per server they can't know how many people will remain playing after the free month.


  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337
    Originally posted by Stormbow

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    This is not a "hair".  Put the crack pipe down and step away.

    You love quoting yourself?

    The gold spam is a non-issue. I usually don't need to block more than a couple names per day.

    The server queues during prime time are a big issue.

    The comparison between games in general chat can become annoying, but it's understandable considering the human nature. Like a guy comparing every new girlfriend with their ex, it's neither productive, or healthy, yet people do it.

  • resinaptresinapt Member Posts: 66

    Back to the topic, tbh i don't really see much Gold Sellers, yesterday night, when i logged i couldnt even read chat coz of them. What i do? took 5 mins to Right CLick -> BLock -> Press ok, on like 4-5 gold sellers at that time. and DING, no more spam on my chat for the rest of the night :)

  • greed0104greed0104 Member Posts: 2,134
    Originally posted by bloodaxes


    There are way to bypass it yes but at least could block some of it, as for hiring yes they should but not one per server they can't know how many people will remain playing after the free month.

    Really "hire" is a strong term. I'm sure plenty of volunteers would be willing to do it. It's seriously the worst part of this game right now. I can't follow chat at all. It's a fun game but you would be surprised at how many will eventually get annoyed at this sort of thing. I can deal with it, but another alternative should have been thought up. IE level restricted chat channels, like 1-10, 11-20  21-25 and stop there. Raising the level cap to 5 to chat slowed them down, but only by a fraction of what it was before.

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    The general channel is area restricted. I have the feeling that more channels are area restricted as well, just need to verify it tonight. Since most areas cater to certain level ranges, I think that approach qualifies as a level restriction as well.

  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662
    Originally posted by greed0104

    Originally posted by bloodaxes


    There are way to bypass it yes but at least could block some of it, as for hiring yes they should but not one per server they can't know how many people will remain playing after the free month.

    Really "hire" is a strong term. I'm sure plenty of volunteers would be willing to do it. It's seriously the worst part of this game right now. I can't follow chat at all. It's a fun game but you would be surprised at how many will eventually get annoyed at this sort of thing. I can deal with it, but another alternative should have been thought up. IE level restricted chat channels, like 1-10, 11-20  21-25 and stop there. Raising the level cap to 5 to chat slowed them down, but only by a fraction of what it was before.

     

    Yes If I would be in ncsoft place instead of that silly lvl 5 block whispers I would have done something like that but instead the people in lvl 1 to 19 have channels and then when they go to 20 and up they can no longer see people chats in general,looking for group,ecc that are lvl 19 or less.

    That would really lower probably to 0 the gold spam imo.


  • greed0104greed0104 Member Posts: 2,134
    Originally posted by Xasapis


    The general channel is area restricted. I have the feeling that more channels are area restricted as well, just need to verify it tonight. Since most areas cater to certain level ranges, I think that approach qualifies as a level restriction as well.

     

    I think the biggest concern at this point would be for any new player that logs in sees nothing but spam. I understand some of these players with little no patience is not the ideal candidate to play with, but you have to consider it from a business stand point. Pandemonium (or major cities in general) are probably the worst of any of the zones. I can't keep up with party, legion, PMs or anything of the sort.

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    I've moved legion and group chat to a floating tab above the general tab. I've also opened a whisper tab, as a separate one, just in case I missed a /whisper from somebody. I've been doing it to all the games that allow this kind of customisation (WoW, LOTRO, etc.) and it does help de-clutter the information passing through the general chat window.

    One thing I tried to find, but didn't, was a way to adjust the transparency of the chat windows.

  • SuplyndmndSuplyndmnd Member Posts: 553

     Well, i've defended the game enough but the time came for me to cancel.  People saying they should wait to see how many people are staying after the first month.  That's ridiculous.  I would think they wouldn't do this because it's idiotic.  I just cancelled after i'd had enough of the gold spammers.  I'll wait a few months, come back, see if anything's changed and if not chalk it up as a lesson learned.  On a completely unrelated subject, anyone want to buy an account? LOL 24 Sorcerer, some other lowbies.  Anyone? Collectors Edition? Someone?

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  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,098
    Originally posted by resinapt


    Back to the topic, tbh i don't really see much Gold Sellers, yesterday night, when i logged i couldnt even read chat coz of them. What i do? took 5 mins to Right CLick -> BLock -> Press ok, on like 4-5 gold sellers at that time. and DING, no more spam on my chat for the rest of the night :)



     

    Yes, and if you need to do that every single day.

    How long you think till your block list is full and your solution no longer works?

    If NC isn't taking any action your block list will be full within 2 weeks and the only option you have is either dissable all global chats, dissable whispers or just cancel the game.

    Guess what most people will do when that time comes?

  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    Originally posted by Stormbow


    Don't let the BS fool you.  These gamemasters are completely impotent when it comes to putting an end to these spammers.  It is a fact that the gold spammers in-game are getting much, MUCH worse as the game progresses, and one gamemaster showing up in-game to ban 3 or 4 accounts is hardly worth cheering over.
    What you don't see in the screenshot is the gold spammer breaking out another account and continuing to spam.  Moreso, now the gold spammers are running multiple bots spamming for the same website, to include instant-spamming the /3 LFG global channel where there is supposed to be a 30 second delay between uses.
    Aion is the definition of game fail, in my opinion, and anyone with half a brain would be wise to avoid the game at all costs.  (And it is definitely not worth paying $50 or more for.)
    But if you like spending several hundred hours gathering resources at nodes throughout the game world, to increase your crafting skill by a pathetic measly few points (while spending insane amounts of money at the same time), if you like being forced into anonymous status so that none of your friends can see you online just to avoid the spammers, if you like having to turn off your whispers so that you won't know if any of your friends whisper you to see if you ARE online, if you like having to stop what you're doing to block yet another gold spammer in General, Class, LFG, and even /say chat, if you enjoy waiting in line for up to 4 hours just to get into the game in the first place, if you look forward to game client crashes that are more frequent than troll flames on forums, if you like killing monsters and getting 0.00001% of your level's requirement of experience to advance (beginning at the half-way point of the level range of the game), if you enjoy getting killed by groups of enemy realm players while you're trying to level up, if you like mind-numbingly repetitive arguments in-game about how World of Warcrap is better than Aion and MANY other "dead horse" topics, if you like having to squint, turn your character, zoom the camera, and otherwise move the User Interface around so you can ACTUALLY READ the chat given the transparent background and terrible in-game fonts, and if you enjoy patronizing games where the gamemasters are utterly unconcerned with the majority of the player's concerns, and are absolutely impotent when it comes to stopping the biggest source of harassment online games have ever seen, by all means, play Aion.
    The game is total garbage, but hey, you get to fly.



     

    I thought you were really trying to contriibute but stopped reading when I got to the Aion is the definition of game fail.

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945
    Originally posted by Xasapis

    Originally posted by Stormbow

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    This is not a "hair".  Put the crack pipe down and step away.

    You love quoting yourself?

    The gold spam is a non-issue. I usually don't need to block more than a couple names per day.

    The server queues during prime time are a big issue.

    The comparison between games in general chat can become annoying, but it's understandable considering the human nature. Like a guy comparing every new girlfriend with their ex, it's neither productive, or healthy, yet people do it.

    I hate to break this to you, but the gold spam and the server ques are not separate issues.

    For every gold spammer in the game there is a legitimate player waiting in the login que.

    For every spammer there are dozens and dozens of bots and farmers running around the game and forcing more players into the login ques.

     

    The true beauty of this is that the people buying gold are the root cause of the problem.  Of course they will say it doesn't harm the game or whatever nonsense they want to spew.  I just hope they enjoy their wait in the login ques and don't whine about it since they have no one to blame but themselves. 

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    uk.aiononline.com/board/notices/view

    From what I read, they grossly underestimated both the amount of players that would connect to their servers and the amount of time they would spend in the game.

    There is also another notice, about adding two extra EU servers.

  • phobicphobic Member UncommonPosts: 39
    Originally posted by Decadentia


    This issue isn't resolved, this is a screenshot just taken not too long ago, I haven't put them on ignore to see how long the GMs havent touched them, its been awhile. This is beyond ridiculous to me.Its constant btw
     
     
     I tried blocking them, you need to block a new spammer every 2-3 minutes or so. They are catching a lot of people with a "go to this website" that looks similar to aions, then of course keylogging their account information and in turn using those accounts.
     

     

      I haven't played in a few days but that picture is absolutely hilarious.

  • GalaxoGalaxo Member UncommonPosts: 389

     

     

     

     

    What a brilliant insight. Why on earth would they ban them once and then not ban them again?

     

    That would be stupid.

     

    Glad you don't run any MMORPG's.

     

     

     

     

     

    Have you play AION ?Lot's of gold sellers.

  • ninjaladyninjalady Member Posts: 64
    Originally posted by Lazarus71


    Glad to see the GMs taking their jobs seriously while also injecting some humor in to the situation.  Keep up the good work NCSoft.

     

    Nice, now where is this same effort in Lineage 2 ??? :(

     

     

  • EthianEthian Member Posts: 1,216
    Originally posted by Tyvolus5

    Originally posted by Mannish


    NC Soft has done something about the Gold Spam!!



     

    they are committed to making this game great -- looking forward to being here a good long while.



     

    I couldnt agree more. Ncsoft is a great company no matter what the haters say. Their the best company out right now IMO. And that included Blizz! lol If they continue to keep Aion running the way they have been we're all in for a great time.

     

    Good on ya NCSOFT!!! :-)

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  • SuplyndmndSuplyndmnd Member Posts: 553
    Originally posted by Ethian

    Originally posted by Tyvolus5

    Originally posted by Mannish


    NC Soft has done something about the Gold Spam!!



     

    they are committed to making this game great -- looking forward to being here a good long while.



     

    I couldnt agree more. Ncsoft is a great company no matter what the haters say. Their the best company out right now IMO. And that included Blizz! lol If they continue to keep Aion running the way they have been we're all in for a great time.

     

    Good on ya NCSOFT!!! :-)

    People are leaving the game.  If they keep running Aion the way they are running it now, they're going to be without customers.

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  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154
    Originally posted by Suplyndmnd

    Originally posted by Ethian

    Originally posted by Tyvolus5

    Originally posted by Mannish


    NC Soft has done something about the Gold Spam!!



     

    they are committed to making this game great -- looking forward to being here a good long while.



     

    I couldnt agree more. Ncsoft is a great company no matter what the haters say. Their the best company out right now IMO. And that included Blizz! lol If they continue to keep Aion running the way they have been we're all in for a great time.

     

    Good on ya NCSOFT!!! :-)

    People are leaving the game.  If they keep running Aion the way they are running it now, they're going to be without customers.

    As long as I have enough people to fill a group I couldn't care less who leaves.  As a matter of fact I hope all of the OOC whiners leave.  I don't know who is worse, the spammers or the whiners spamming about the spammers.

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  • CzzarreCzzarre Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,742
  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154
    Originally posted by Czzarre


    Gold spam is just becoming intollerable

    It takes me a minute tops to stop the chat from scrolling, /anon, and block the spammers (including those whining about the spammers).  For the next hour or three that I play there is no more spam only that of those not smart enough to shut up and block the spammers and stop adding to it.

    Of course I understand that some forum goers are above having to do anything beyond lifting their index finger here and there so do feel free to leave as many before me have said.

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  • TimzillaTimzilla Member UncommonPosts: 437
    Originally posted by Locklain

    Originally posted by Suplyndmnd

    Originally posted by Ethian

    Originally posted by Tyvolus5

    Originally posted by Mannish


    NC Soft has done something about the Gold Spam!!



     

    they are committed to making this game great -- looking forward to being here a good long while.



     

    I couldnt agree more. Ncsoft is a great company no matter what the haters say. Their the best company out right now IMO. And that included Blizz! lol If they continue to keep Aion running the way they have been we're all in for a great time.

     

    Good on ya NCSOFT!!! :-)

    People are leaving the game.  If they keep running Aion the way they are running it now, they're going to be without customers.

    As long as I have enough people to fill a group I couldn't care less who leaves.  As a matter of fact I hope all of the OOC whiners leave.  I don't know who is worse, the spammers or the whiners spamming about the spammers.



     

    You could possibly be more narrow-minded, but then you'd have to think outside the box to do it. It's a pvp game. Let's hope you don't need more hints than that to see the folly of your statement.

  • rwmillerrwmiller Member Posts: 472
    Originally posted by Suplyndmnd

    Originally posted by Ethian

    Originally posted by Tyvolus5

    Originally posted by Mannish


    NC Soft has done something about the Gold Spam!!



     

    they are committed to making this game great -- looking forward to being here a good long while.



     

    I couldnt agree more. Ncsoft is a great company no matter what the haters say. Their the best company out right now IMO. And that included Blizz! lol If they continue to keep Aion running the way they have been we're all in for a great time.

     

    Good on ya NCSOFT!!! :-)

    People are leaving the game.  If they keep running Aion the way they are running it now, they're going to be without customers.



     

    LOL - I wish they would as it would shorten the queues. Right now pretty much in any zone on any server at any time of the day or night there are people running around having fun. It is way too soon to take anyone's comments as leaving the game seriously as most people are still playing on their included 30 days. Possibly they won't renew but there will not be a serious drop in players for at least a couple of months and even then unless there is a fundamental problem with the game that is not likely.

     

    Of course NCsoft can ruin everything and the game can fail but I will play until they do.

  • Frostbite05Frostbite05 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,880
    Originally posted by Suplyndmnd

    Originally posted by Ethian

    Originally posted by Tyvolus5

    Originally posted by Mannish


    NC Soft has done something about the Gold Spam!!



     

    they are committed to making this game great -- looking forward to being here a good long while.



     

    I couldnt agree more. Ncsoft is a great company no matter what the haters say. Their the best company out right now IMO. And that included Blizz! lol If they continue to keep Aion running the way they have been we're all in for a great time.

     

    Good on ya NCSOFT!!! :-)

    People are leaving the game.  If they keep running Aion the way they are running it now, they're going to be without customers.

    Really what have they done that drove so many people off rather than add more servers to house more players and ban the gold farmers/botters?

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