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jmc2049
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Recently on the premiere of SGU( which i watched of course :P) they showed some new game footage. It shows young genius Eli trying to solve a puzzle. The video is short, but it proves that SGW many not be dead afterall. Chech out the SGW website. I tried earlier and the link on the website to the footage wasn't working, but they may have fixed it by now.
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It proves that they can get some static engine footage on video. It's not really related to SGW as a working MMO at all.
Uh... I watched the first episode of SGU as well... and I don't recall them ever directly saying that the game he was playing was SGW. I got the impression it was just a random fictional game they made up for the story.
Also, while I liked SGU, I don't like the fact thats its trying really hard to be Battlestar Glactica. The last thing we need is another soap oprea in space where every episode revolves around trying to figure out who is having sex with who and playing guessing games to figure out who the actual bad guys are. The writers of this show need to stick to what made the previous Stargate shows great rather than trying to copy some other show which wasn't really that great.
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I know they never directly refered to the game as SGW, but as "Prometheus". However, the SGW website said that this was in game footage. And yes it did seem a little like Battlestar Galactica.
I watched it last night.. and if THAT was SG:W? Um.. it was pretty crappy... >.> I really, really hope that isn't an indication of what the playable game would be, or rather, would have been?
As for the show itself, I had lots of problems with it, a clone of BSG only one of many.
*sighs*
Expect crappier if they ever get anything out the door. The beta was....horrible.
What we saw in SGU was nothing near what the beta showed. Even the GFX was different.
Expect crappier if they ever get anything out the door. The beta was....horrible.
What we saw in SGU was nothing near what the beta showed. Even the GFX was different.
Coming from a fellow beta player, I agree. The game was very, very clunky. They had me clicking to aim and attack like a normal MMORPG, but with my skills placed all kitty-horned off some random place and I had to manually reload. It was really not intuitive, especially being weapons were bound to 1-9 so skills needed to be clicked on. At the same time, you had to take cover in real time. It really was a mix of an FPS and RPG combat but, no reticle. I think Tabula Rasa-like combat would be better, where there is a reticle, although aiming is still not that important.
I also watched, and enjoyed SGU's premiere.
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Yup, gotta agree. It was like they brought the people over from Battlestar Galactica and had them start making SGU. I disagree though with Galactica sucking, I thought it was a very well done show, although it wasn't what I wanted in a Battlestar Galactica show since I grew up with the old Spelling version. When I watched the new version, I just pretended it was a totally different standalone show.
I had numerous issues with the new SGU. One, it was like BG. We already had BG and its style, do something new or a variation. The dark and gritty atmosphere like in BG, doesn't fit well with what made SG so much fun. Besides, they are suppose to be on an ancient ship correct? Atlantis was an Ancient city that was far older than the ship, and wasn't anywhere near as dilapidated. Where is the humor and the fun personalities?
When a new show airs, one of its first priorities is to make a connection with the viewer and the starring characters. This certainly didn't happen with this show for me. The Colonel was an strict military ass one sec and then mister softy the next. Pick one and build on it sheesh. Senator's daughter?!?! Whiney sorority girl was all I got from her. She is supposed to be Harvard grad, assistant to one of the most powerful people in the country, but she certainly didn't act like it in the show. Rush came across as a scientist who makes great accomplishments in his field through the work of others. I am still up in the air because I can't be certain what his role in the show will be. He may be a Dr. Smith like from Lost in Space (series not the movie) and that could be interesting. Medic lady, was dry and uninteresting. The lieutenant or whatever his rank was (wasn't interesting enough to remember his name or rank) that led while Colonel was down showed moments of flash, but quickly backed down with his tail between his legs just when he would get some style going.
About the only one who showed any possible promise was Eli, but even he needs to flesh out his character more. I'll give the show a few more watches and see if it gets some legs to stand on, but not too many more. I can't say much about the game as there wasn't enough to go on.
Link? Not finding it on youtube... did anybody tivo this?
Not to go too off-topic, but about SG:U...
Why in the heck would O'Neill sign off on putting a math puzzle in a video game when he has Carter, Bill, McKay, Zelenka.. and access to all the brilliant minds of the universe? It had been established in SG:A that McKay was a contractor and was going to reup his contract, so he still works for the SGC. I mean... an MIT drop out living in his mom's house? I mean.. guh. I hate wunderkind. Really cliche.
And like others have said.. there was zero humour which was the hallmark of SG:X, right from the get-go. There was no release for 2 hours of the dismal bashing.
I really couldn't have cared less for the characters, honestly. With those dying, I just couldn't and would feel a thing. Who really cared? The only real glimmer I saw of anything was a potential friendship between the Lt. Whatshisname and Eli.. and still, I just can't really bring myself to like the character.
Another hallmark of the SG franchise seems to have gone away... the bringing in of fleeting characters in SG and giving them more prominence. We had actors reprising their roles from the movie to SG:SG1, and then we had actors/characters reprising their roles from SG:1 to SG:A (Lorne, McKay, Weir). Who do we have to draw from? No 'ah-ha! I remember them from Season 5, episode 10!' or somesuch. Nothing like that to give a sense of continuity.
And back to SG:W to bring it baci to relevance...
I was in beta, but could never get in. They never worked out how to make the game work on laptops with integrated video cards.
Wow, people expect the characters to be 100% fleshed out in the first episode? People are making assumptions about continuity errors already even though almost no info has been given. Making stupid comparisons to the previous series (previous characters emerging being a hallmark? give me a break). You guys are treating the series just as ridiculously as most people on this site treat new MMO's.
I totally agree with your post regarding BSG. It felt much less like SG-1 or Atlantis and more like BSG. There was also some Lost tossed in, imho.
Eli reminded me very much of Hurley, while Rush and the Colonel reminded me of Locke and Jack. Rush seems to have ulterior motives and the previews showed him talking about this being his destiny, very much like Locke. The Colonel, meanwhile, was very straight-forward and focused on getting everyone home while being very much in conflict with Rush, much like Jack was with Locke in earlier seasons of Lost.
The story telling also was reminiscent of Lost, with the flashbacks that focused on telling each character's back story.
Having said that, I did enjoy the first episode and was intrigued with the directions the show could take. I just hope the resonances of BSG and Lost don't become distracting in future episodes.
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I agree with all of you that SGU seems a little too much like BSG, yet you cannot expect them to reveal everything about the characters in the first episdoe. Hopefully the people on the ship will have enough common sense to knock Rush off and contiue with their lives for he is a dumbass. SGU is also missing that humor that made all the rest good and this is just too serious for any SG series. The rest of the characters are ok thank God they killed the senator or oh man would we be in for a bore.
Although you cannot compare SGW in the show to the completed version. It was obviosly just a rudementry game with nothing more than the character running around looking at a hidh tech ancient computer screen. Later on I am hoping to see improvement on this and see better combat systems.
I dunno that. They have been sticking to it for a lot of seasons in SG1 and to change little isn't bad.
But this might not be the right way to do things, they could instead try to make something we havn't seen before.
But we should be thankful that they didn't make a SG clone of "Lost" instead.
Well my overall thoughts were it was trying to be sexy, gritty and in a much darker place than the previous SG! and SGA series.
I would say my overall opinion of it was great (with room for improvement), but the biggest downside was the flashbacks, man this isnt LOST you dont need a flashback every 5 frikin minutes to explain that why eli is limping, just to have a flashback show he stubbed his toe.
Its going to get old very fast if this is going to be the norm. LOST is LOST because of the flashbacks and moving back and forth from characters and the time line.
See how this pans out, but if this show keeps trying to use what made LOST or BSG to become popular, LOST with its flashbacks, and BSG with the sex and politics (soap feel), then its doomed for failure.
I think the pilot was a "special case" formula... by that I mean the flashbacks, and the lack of "adventure plot." SG1 & SGA were very formulaic: Dial the gate, Go to X, Do/Defeat Y, Go Home and wrap it all up nice and tidy. It seems like SGU is just setting the same formula up... fly to galaxy, gate dials, you have a few hours do do/find X, go back to ship and wrap it up. As much as I'd love to see something different and not so predictable, it wouldn't exactly fit into the style that SG fans are comfortable with.
The show will become what it becomes... like it or hate it, give it a few episodes to "fall into the routine," and see if you like it then.
All that side, I think that the "funny" is all over the official forums... they have exploded with similar post headings like this one, and the fanatics are now in a chaos of "See? It's PROOF that SGU is alive and well! Eat s***, naysayers!"
As some one has said before, look up SG:Alliance... it was in an episode of SG1, and we all remember how fun that game was when it came out... oh wait...
It'll be interesting to see what the "news" will be.... and if it will even be....
From Jeremy Taylor, Marketing Director:
"...we have a committed development team working on some really awesome stuff. We had hoped to share specifics with you today but will unfortunately need a little more time..." LINK
Don't believe everything you see on the SGW website. If everything game developers said was true then Shaowbane would have been the most innovative MMO of all time, had no bugs and had the best PvP of all time. Instead that game blew donkey chunks and got shut down. And don't even get me started on the Dark and Light devs.
Now if it IS true that the game was saw in SGU was footage from SGW, then I assume the SGW devs won't have any problem posting the footage itself on their website to prove it? After all, if its from THEIR GAME then they shouldn't have any trouble reporducing it, right?
The History of the Order of The Golden Shields
You mean this footage? (which IS the footage shown in SGU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN9RQ9G-X4w
It's older footage that has been floating around for quite some time...
Amen to that. I hate the style of the show. It stank of BSG to me.
Not to mention the premise is pretty much a rip-off of ST:Voyager.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
You mean this footage? (which IS the footage shown in SGU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN9RQ9G-X4w
It's older footage that has been floating around for quite some time...
That certainly looks like the character that was moving around in SGU. Different environment, but same character.
You mean this footage? (which IS the footage shown in SGU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN9RQ9G-X4w
It's older footage that has been floating around for quite some time...
That certainly looks like the character that was moving around in SGU. Different environment, but same character.
Aside from the different coloration (SGU is more blue)... which is from SGU post production, it's not just similar... it exactly the same up to the point after the puzzle is solved. In the Demo Video a new world is shown... in SGU, an ancient building is shown... probably just another video out there... cut the two together, and presto! You've got your SGU "Prometheus" footage.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/99870/stargate-universe-air-parts-1-and-2 go to 00:07:00 (7 minutes into the episode)
"Unavailable outside the US."
I'm getting really tired of reading that.
SO much for the global internet.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
You mean this footage? (which IS the footage shown in SGU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN9RQ9G-X4w
It's older footage that has been floating around for quite some time...
That certainly looks like the character that was moving around in SGU. Different environment, but same character.
Aside from the different coloration (SGU is more blue)... which is from SGU post production, it's not just similar... it exactly the same up to the point after the puzzle is solved. In the Demo Video a new world is shown... in SGU, an ancient building is shown... probably just another video out there... cut the two together, and presto! You've got your SGU "Prometheus" footage.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/99870/stargate-universe-air-parts-1-and-2 go to 00:07:00 (7 minutes into the episode)
Okay, so that proves it is footage supposedly from SGW.
But as Thradar said, it is older footage which has been around for a long time. Clearly a scripted scene the devs created just to show off the graphics. It looks like a cut scene rather than actual gameplay. Someone just decided to scoop up this footage, throw it into SGU and call it a different game as part of thier excuse for brining Eli onto the show.
If anything, this makes me think less of SGU and not more of SGW. Its actually kind of sad that with the pretty impressive special effects this show had (not to mention the vast budget which must have been nessary to create it) they had to recycle crappy footage of a cutscene from a defunct game.
EDIT: I gotta say though, I feel like "Comic Book Guy" from the Simpsons just talking about this. So I'm just going to say that SGU needs improvement, SGW will never be released and I'm going to go play Fallen Earth. Lets leave it at that.
The History of the Order of The Golden Shields