All softs including games have bugs. But FE has enormous bugs and terrible lag. This game is simply unplayable for the moment. Unplayable = refund.
"some people have problems with lag and performance, "
not some people but EVERYONE: everyone had problems with lag with mob warping etc. (everyone : cf forums)
1 to 10 FPS in town: do you it's playable ? Mobs warping, lag and enormous atency between the clic on the skill and the attack do you think it's playable ? NO it is NOT.
Are you working for Icarus ? Don't worry it's over:, with this joke they won't have 50k subs. never.
Payed twice for indy games: same results.
Roma Victor
Fallen Earth.
It's not a problem of taste but of poor execution. I don't even know if i could like the game because it's UN PLAY ABLE.
This is why MMOs need a free trial or a test server. But I guess as long as suckers will run out and buy the game at launch they won't do this.
Its only been out for about three weeks now.
Come on people.... Use you're brains.
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
This is why MMOs need a free trial or a test server. But I guess as long as suckers will run out and buy the game at launch they won't do this.
That's why there's open and closed beta people can "try it" although they should test it but anyways and would get an idea of how the game is.
If for X reason you lost the chance to try it in that days it's not the devs problem sorry.
Beta is not for that, you are what is wrong with MMO's and betas.
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
all softs including games have bugs. But FE has enormous bugs and terrible lag. This game is simply unplayable for the moment. Unplayable = refund.
It is completely playable for a good number of people, please, speak for yourself.
---------- "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
You know, I think its kind of funny that with each new game that comes out the system specs continue to increase and increase, and some players... myself included, that have these aging computers will have to upgrade some things just to stay current, yet the second someone says the word Console and MMO together, people throw a complete fit.
If more MMOs were created for one single type of system the developers would be able to optimize the game much better, so as not to have to guess if you're running a processor from 2005 or a video card just under specs. They would know what everyone is running and players wouldn't really be able to complain about performance issues on a machine that can't handle it.
I like my keyboard and mouse setup though, and I prefer PC gaming in general, so I'm happy to see that SOE is still taking this type of customer into account as well as the console crowd.
You know, I think its kind of funny that with each new game that comes out the system specs continue to increase and increase, and some players... myself included, that have these aging computers will have to upgrade some things just to stay current, yet the second someone says the word Console and MMO together, people throw a complete fit.
If more MMOs were created for one single type of system the developers would be able to optimize the game much better, so as not to have to guess if you're running a processor from 2005 or a video card just under specs. They would know what everyone is running and players wouldn't really be able to complain about performance issues on a machine that can't handle it.
Just a thought.
specs go up as technology increases. years ago we were limited to 1D/2D games. then someone came up with 2.5D games then figured out 3D and how to make 2D look 3D (sims1 anyone?) naturally the computers/consoles at the time lacked the power. so naturally people had to upgrade their rig to make use of the newer tech.
people seem to forget computers/console technology is continuing to evolve the tech we have right now is actually long since discontinued. the development of faster.. better.. smaller devices or more powerful things are already advancing beyond what anyone today has.. it just hasnt left the development floor yet.
so saddly no developer can make a program/game for one system .. as they will have to factor in people with slower systems and faster ones
no one wants to pay 60 bucks plus 5-20bucks a month for a game that is set for a system from 1980s no matter how new the game is.. its not worth it honestly if you rig can run say AoC with everything on godly max...
so games are built with 2 sets in mind. the high end and the low end, tho they do optimize it as best they can
All softs including games have bugs. But FE has enormous bugs and terrible lag. This game is simply unplayable for the moment. Unplayable = refund.
Unplayable for YOU. That is a shame, it is performing very well for me.
"some people have problems with lag and performance, "
not some people but EVERYONE: everyone had problems with lag with mob warping etc. (everyone : cf forums)
I have had rather minor lag issues and very little warping; the warping I have experienced has had no effect on my gameplay at all. So I guess you would have to further refine your "everyone" statement to clarify the exact problems people have been having with lag and warping.
My biggest issue was when I first started playing and was getting disconnected every ten minutes. I eventually figured out that I needed to update my sound card driver.
1 to 10 FPS in town: do you it's playable ? Mobs warping, lag and enormous atency between the clic on the skill and the attack do you think it's playable ? NO it is NOT.
I commonly get between 35 and 50 fps in Embry, Oilville, etc. In open areas, I typically get between 80 and 110 fps.
My attacks go off pretty much when I click them. I have experienced lag with merchants, however.
So yes, I consider the game to be highly playable.
Are you working for Icarus ? Don't worry it's over:, with this joke they won't have 50k subs. never.
Payed twice for indy games: same results.
Roma Victor
Fallen Earth.
It's not a problem of taste but of poor execution. I don't even know if i could like the game because it's UN PLAY ABLE.
It's a shame your experience was negative. That does not make the game unplayable; it only makes it unplayable for you.
Mine, overall, has been great! The game atmosphere, storyline, missions, crafting... they are a breath of fresh air. Even when I'm not doing anything specific, I am still accomplishing goals.
Game performance has been very good for me, besides the initial CTDs from my old sound card driver.
All that said, I certainly believe that if the purchaser meets the minimum requirements of the software and the software consistently fails to perform, they should get their money back.
For my part, with MMOs, I tend to be more lenient because they are live products and are constantly in a state of patching and tweaking.
So it is more likely that I will actually see a fix for my issue in the near future, as opposed to waiting on a developer for a single-player game, utility, or productivity suite to issue a patch, which normally takes considerably longer.
Abbatoir / Abbatoir Cinq Adnihilo Beorn Judge's Edge Somnulus Perfect Black ---------------------- Asheron's Call / Asheron's Call 2 Everquest / Everquest 2 Anarchy Online Shadowbane Dark Age of Camelot Star Wars Galaxies Matrix Online World of Warcraft Guild Wars City of Heroes
I'm guessing all of this "unplayable" nonsense must either be a bad attempt at trolling, or these people are trying to run the game on a 5+ year old computer. I'm personally playing the game at close to max settings on a 2+ year old machine (which, btw, wasn't even close to being top-end when I made it) and getting a very reasonable frame-rate everywhere I've been. Sure, it slows down a bit in towns and such, but for the most part, I haven't had any performance complaints.
Compared to games like EQ2, AoC, and Warhammer, this game gives a much more satisfying performance, at least in my experience.
You know, I think its kind of funny that with each new game that comes out the system specs continue to increase and increase, and some players... myself included, that have these aging computers will have to upgrade some things just to stay current, yet the second someone says the word Console and MMO together, people throw a complete fit.
If more MMOs were created for one single type of system the developers would be able to optimize the game much better, so as not to have to guess if you're running a processor from 2005 or a video card just under specs. They would know what everyone is running and players wouldn't really be able to complain about performance issues on a machine that can't handle it.
Just a thought.
specs go up as technology increases. years ago we were limited to 1D/2D games.
You know, I think its kind of funny that with each new game that comes out the system specs continue to increase and increase, and some players... myself included, that have these aging computers will have to upgrade some things just to stay current, yet the second someone says the word Console and MMO together, people throw a complete fit.
If more MMOs were created for one single type of system the developers would be able to optimize the game much better, so as not to have to guess if you're running a processor from 2005 or a video card just under specs. They would know what everyone is running and players wouldn't really be able to complain about performance issues on a machine that can't handle it.
Just a thought.
specs go up as technology increases. years ago we were limited to 1D/2D games.
Name a single 1D game and I will say sorry!
Yeah, this has hit my eye too.... 1D is a line, nothing more
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
You know, I think its kind of funny that with each new game that comes out the system specs continue to increase and increase, and some players... myself included, that have these aging computers will have to upgrade some things just to stay current, yet the second someone says the word Console and MMO together, people throw a complete fit.
If more MMOs were created for one single type of system the developers would be able to optimize the game much better, so as not to have to guess if you're running a processor from 2005 or a video card just under specs. They would know what everyone is running and players wouldn't really be able to complain about performance issues on a machine that can't handle it.
Just a thought.
specs go up as technology increases. years ago we were limited to 1D/2D games.
Name a single 1D game and I will say sorry!
Yeah, this has hit my eye too.... 1D is a line, nothing more
DB
Damn it is difficult. I know a dot game , you watch a dot blink.... just kidding.
You know, I think its kind of funny that with each new game that comes out the system specs continue to increase and increase, and some players... myself included, that have these aging computers will have to upgrade some things just to stay current, yet the second someone says the word Console and MMO together, people throw a complete fit.
If more MMOs were created for one single type of system the developers would be able to optimize the game much better, so as not to have to guess if you're running a processor from 2005 or a video card just under specs. They would know what everyone is running and players wouldn't really be able to complain about performance issues on a machine that can't handle it.
Just a thought.
specs go up as technology increases. years ago we were limited to 1D/2D games.
Name a single 1D game and I will say sorry!
Yeah, this has hit my eye too.... 1D is a line, nothing more
DB
Damn it is difficult. I know a dot game , you watch a dot blink.... just kidding.
A snake game, with no turns allowed? :DD
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Well, I retract my earlier statement because I'm still playing and enjoying myself - lack of polish non-withstanding. I'm willing to keep my account open for at least a couple more months to support the devs a little bit.
Well, I retract my earlier statement because I'm still playing and enjoying myself - lack of polish non-withstanding. I'm willing to keep my account open for at least a couple more months to support the devs a little bit.
Hey, excellent I never thought you'll actually do what I suggested to be a good idea Kudos, man (even if it wasn't me influencing...)
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Well, I retract my earlier statement because I'm still playing and enjoying myself - lack of polish non-withstanding. I'm willing to keep my account open for at least a couple more months to support the devs a little bit.
That my friend is one of the reasons Im so keen on buying it. Its a new game that I find very appealing and their doing something ALMOST entirely new.
*edit*
I tried getting my money back from NCSoft for my inactive paid for month and they denied it. Assholes really haha
Comments
What an excellent idea!
And it should be extended to all consumer products. From food to hardware. Cars to clothes etc
Ah Sony released a new PsP, can i try before i buy?
Look there is a new restaurant, lets go and sample the food for free.
New LCD TVS have just been launched, I will test one for a few weeks, i am sure panasonic will give me a set for a trial.
New iTouch has been release and ofc Apple offer 5 day free trials on all handsets.
Go and buy a couple of CDs dont like the music, np just take it back within5 days for a full refund.
Get yourself down to Ferrari show room and test drive an F40 for a week, cost =free.
Ultimately nobody will sell anything anymore.
That's why there's open and closed beta people can "try it" although they should test it but anyways and would get an idea of how the game is.
If for X reason you lost the chance to try it in that days it's not the devs problem sorry.
All softs including games have bugs. But FE has enormous bugs and terrible lag. This game is simply unplayable for the moment. Unplayable = refund.
"some people have problems with lag and performance, "
not some people but EVERYONE: everyone had problems with lag with mob warping etc. (everyone : cf forums)
1 to 10 FPS in town: do you it's playable ? Mobs warping, lag and enormous atency between the clic on the skill and the attack do you think it's playable ? NO it is NOT.
Are you working for Icarus ? Don't worry it's over:, with this joke they won't have 50k subs. never.
Payed twice for indy games: same results.
Roma Victor
Fallen Earth.
It's not a problem of taste but of poor execution. I don't even know if i could like the game because it's UN PLAY ABLE.
Its only been out for about three weeks now.
Come on people.... Use you're brains.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
That's why there's open and closed beta people can "try it" although they should test it but anyways and would get an idea of how the game is.
If for X reason you lost the chance to try it in that days it's not the devs problem sorry.
Beta is not for that, you are what is wrong with MMO's and betas.
----------
"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
It is completely playable for a good number of people, please, speak for yourself.
----------
"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Like others have said. Most people get around fine. Sometimes it has to do with your system. Not every has the same experience as you.
Wish all trolls would only last for 3 days on this site
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
You know, I think its kind of funny that with each new game that comes out the system specs continue to increase and increase, and some players... myself included, that have these aging computers will have to upgrade some things just to stay current, yet the second someone says the word Console and MMO together, people throw a complete fit.
If more MMOs were created for one single type of system the developers would be able to optimize the game much better, so as not to have to guess if you're running a processor from 2005 or a video card just under specs. They would know what everyone is running and players wouldn't really be able to complain about performance issues on a machine that can't handle it.
Just a thought.
Well, Smedley of SOE has said that all of their future MMO's will be made for both PC and the PS3. Not a console fan myself, but business-wise, it makes sense to develop for a platform where everyone is on equal terms.
I like my keyboard and mouse setup though, and I prefer PC gaming in general, so I'm happy to see that SOE is still taking this type of customer into account as well as the console crowd.
http://machineborn.guildportal.com - Now recruiting players!
specs go up as technology increases. years ago we were limited to 1D/2D games. then someone came up with 2.5D games then figured out 3D and how to make 2D look 3D (sims1 anyone?) naturally the computers/consoles at the time lacked the power. so naturally people had to upgrade their rig to make use of the newer tech.
people seem to forget computers/console technology is continuing to evolve the tech we have right now is actually long since discontinued. the development of faster.. better.. smaller devices or more powerful things are already advancing beyond what anyone today has.. it just hasnt left the development floor yet.
so saddly no developer can make a program/game for one system .. as they will have to factor in people with slower systems and faster ones
no one wants to pay 60 bucks plus 5-20bucks a month for a game that is set for a system from 1980s no matter how new the game is.. its not worth it honestly if you rig can run say AoC with everything on godly max...
so games are built with 2 sets in mind. the high end and the low end, tho they do optimize it as best they can
Abbatoir / Abbatoir Cinq
Adnihilo
Beorn Judge's Edge
Somnulus
Perfect Black
----------------------
Asheron's Call / Asheron's Call 2
Everquest / Everquest 2
Anarchy Online
Shadowbane
Dark Age of Camelot
Star Wars Galaxies
Matrix Online
World of Warcraft
Guild Wars
City of Heroes
I'm guessing all of this "unplayable" nonsense must either be a bad attempt at trolling, or these people are trying to run the game on a 5+ year old computer. I'm personally playing the game at close to max settings on a 2+ year old machine (which, btw, wasn't even close to being top-end when I made it) and getting a very reasonable frame-rate everywhere I've been. Sure, it slows down a bit in towns and such, but for the most part, I haven't had any performance complaints.
Compared to games like EQ2, AoC, and Warhammer, this game gives a much more satisfying performance, at least in my experience.
specs go up as technology increases. years ago we were limited to 1D/2D games.
Name a single 1D game and I will say sorry!
specs go up as technology increases. years ago we were limited to 1D/2D games.
Name a single 1D game and I will say sorry!
Yeah, this has hit my eye too.... 1D is a line, nothing more
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
specs go up as technology increases. years ago we were limited to 1D/2D games.
Name a single 1D game and I will say sorry!
Yeah, this has hit my eye too.... 1D is a line, nothing more
DB
Damn it is difficult. I know a dot game , you watch a dot blink.... just kidding.
specs go up as technology increases. years ago we were limited to 1D/2D games.
Name a single 1D game and I will say sorry!
Yeah, this has hit my eye too.... 1D is a line, nothing more
DB
Damn it is difficult. I know a dot game , you watch a dot blink.... just kidding.
A snake game, with no turns allowed? :DD
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Well, I retract my earlier statement because I'm still playing and enjoying myself - lack of polish non-withstanding. I'm willing to keep my account open for at least a couple more months to support the devs a little bit.
Hey, excellent
I never thought you'll actually do what I suggested to be a good idea 
Kudos, man (even if it wasn't me influencing...)
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
That my friend is one of the reasons Im so keen on buying it. Its a new game that I find very appealing and their doing something ALMOST entirely new.
*edit*
I tried getting my money back from NCSoft for my inactive paid for month and they denied it. Assholes really haha
My experience is different. I was told I would get a refund of my (unused) preorder. It never came.