For those that dont know you can buy the pre beta box at game and othere stores for £3 pounds uk.
This gives you a nice little sound track cd and a code that entitels you to get on the lst beta all sounds so cool dont it but wait !
SO you get the news for the wow site that you could down load the said game using a bitmap download programe from blizzard.
Now rembering blizzard as such a great company for the less of net users aswewhere able to play mulityplayers games free and withlittle lag using a dial up modem...
Yeh right times have chanced and woth a nice little braod band conection i thought to my self oooh ill have my habd on this in the morning when i get up .
downloading the instaler.
ohh that was fast.
i was then extractiing the installer to my hard drive.
conetion made.
time on the download is 20 hours ah well i thought that not too bad.
then looking 10 mins later to find that the downloader had taken to my conection with a download esamated time.of 32 hours ! on broad band and a 1mb.
sumthing must be wrong i thought as i loged on to the wow uro website.
but it wasent me every on on the forum where complaing about how long the download time would be and how the bizard company its self had sucha down load installer rather than a exe file that wouldent have taken as much time dodown load for suchas fine planet of any pothere file downloading web site...
thoughts.
i cant think of why i would want to spend 32 hours of my time to actuly.donwload sumthing that would stop me playing any othere games i have.
i mean come on a 20 hour download over 2 night while inbed . not 3 or 4 lol
so the warning is unless you have time on your hand tojust sit about waitng and looking at a screen for a game that most probly will be out inthe next few months.. is just beond me..
thought it can handle it looks likesum of the opld type cards that eq2 cant handle/.
You haven't a clue. When Battlegounds and Rankings get implemented there will actually be good reasons to PvP besides ganking people. You will get many different rewards for not only killing your enemy, but also for taking over a town or city. Even low level players will be able to participate and help defend their area. You need to go to www.worldofwarcraft.com and read up on Battlegrounds and Rankings before speaking about something you know nothing about. I'm glad you didn't buy it either.
Xander
1. Read that ages ago
2. Doesn't change anything cause as it's told and shown there, over a 100 (maybe more or less depending on server and depending on more battlegrounds) will be continuously fighting there and all they can do is kill each other or take over some point. Which is same as any game with capture the point (+defending). There's nothing and absolutely nothing that says people ain't gonna zerg their way around.
3. Take a good look at DAoC servers and their Battlegrounds. Small zones, large nr of players -> zergs. And don't come with DAoC is a total different game. The mechanics is the same.
You'll see when it gets there, until then the movie proves my point
Originally posted by Khalen 1. Read that ages ago 2. Doesn't change anything cause as it's told and shown there, over a 100 (maybe more or less depending on server and depending on more battlegrounds) will be continuously fighting there and all they can do is kill each other or take over some point. Which is same as any game with capture the point (+defending). There's nothing and absolutely nothing that says people ain't gonna zerg their way around. 3. Take a good look at DAoC servers and their Battlegrounds. Small zones, large nr of players -> zergs. And don't come with DAoC is a total different game. The mechanics is the same. You'll see when it gets there, until then the movie proves my point
Thanks for the info! I've been wondering what Blizzard had planned for the Battlegrounds and you've obviously found out leaked inside-information.
I'm surprised that there'll be over 100 people fighting in each battleground, especially considering the fact that they're instanced, but your tone is so authoritarian I certainly wouldn't dare accuse you of just making stuff up or talking utter garbage.
Originally posted by XanderZane You haven't a clue. When Battlegounds and Rankings get implemented there will actually be good reasons to PvP besides ganking people. You will get many different rewards for not only killing your enemy, but also for taking over a town or city. Even low level players will be able to participate and help defend their area. You need to go to www.worldofwarcraft.com and read up on Battlegrounds and Rankings before speaking about something you know nothing about. I'm glad you didn't buy it either.
Xander
1. Read that ages ago
2. Doesn't change anything cause as it's told and shown there, over a 100 (maybe more or less depending on server and depending on more battlegrounds) will be continuously fighting there and all they can do is kill each other or take over some point. Which is same as any game with capture the point (+defending). There's nothing and absolutely nothing that says people ain't gonna zerg their way around.
3. Take a good look at DAoC servers and their Battlegrounds. Small zones, large nr of players -> zergs. And don't come with DAoC is a total different game. The mechanics is the same.
You'll see when it gets there, until then the movie proves my point
Like I said. Not a clue. The difference is there will actually be a point to zerging when Battlegrounds and Rankings get put in place. People will actually try to fight others who are close to their level to kill as that is the only way to improve your RANK. Kill low level noobs will continue to earn you nothing. At certain ranked levels, you will get uber loot, some type of medal ranking and your name on the Ranking list on the website. I don't recall DAoC doing anything like this, but what do I know. Also, people will be able to gather blood from their defeated foe and then given them to an ally NPC who can summon Elementalist and other large guardians to fight on their side. Did DAoC have this? Supposely vehicles and ground weapons are suppose to be added as well. Not sure if they will add Guild Rankings within the game, but that's probably in the future plans as well.
If you don't want to play a game with PvP and zerging, then go and play EQ2. They don't have any PvP at ALL. The movie proves nothing. A bunch of Alliance people take over a Horde town that is barely ever visited. I was online when that raid happened. Everyone at the XR's just laughed and said it's not even worth travelling to Sunrock just to fight for that small town. Sun Rock usually only has about 15-30 people max in that town at any given time. They should have tried attacking the Crossroads or Thunder Bluff if they wanted a real fight. The video just proves that the Alliance can attack an unpopulated town. Didn't even show if they won or not. lol!!
Wow zerg much? What was the point of that movie besides the fact that you guys suck and need lots of people to do anything at all. Maybe get some skill and try to take a 5 man team out and see how well you do. But that might just be my leetist DaoC attitude coming out where anything over 1fg is frownd upon.
Whoever made the movie needs to learn how to pan, though in a massive zerg like that where you have no need for any real skill I can see why you don't pan at all. In a 5v5 battle that druid would get ownd because he has no experience with kiting or doing anything productive in a group.
I'm suprised that this site would even host a pos movie like that and send me an email telling me to check it out.
Fanglo 50 druid - DAOC
I healed Mistwraith and all I got was this stupid tee-shirt!
I am Snapperhead. The maker (ie, mixer, soundtrack chooser, editor) of the video, and flatmate of Parin, the druid filming the video.
I'd like to point some things out, in relation to some of the previous posts here. Generaly, i dont talk on forums, because forums are usually just filled with people who have nothing better to do with their time but bitch and complain about things they cant deal with, or know nothing about. However, i made a video of our raid. I made it for our guilds sake, so we could have some laughs and keep some memories of our first raids.
1. This is the low quality 13.6MB version that is posted here, as i havent got around to housing the high quality 30MB version yet. I'd say it's on its way, but after reading this forum, i dont think i will bother.
2. Unless you play on Blackrock, you really have no idea what its like. This so called "zerging" behaviour, that we are doing, is daily practiced by both factions, horde and alliance, and is accepted. Personally, i dont see what is wrong with it. World of Warcraft is based on, and like one big game of, Warcraft 3. Its like you are playing one of the soldiers in a game of Warcraft3. And what do you do in a game of Warcraft 3 if you notice the enemy has an expansion somewhere? You send in your entire army in and whipe them of the map. Hence, zerging. May i also point out that Blizzard designed the "form raid" feature. Funnily enough, Blizzard also designed the Zergling. Go figure. Either way, this behaviiur is practised by both sides and if you are in a town and you dont like it, then leave for a while. We made our first charge, then left for about 5 minutes, to allow anyone who wanted to complete quests and get out the time to do so, then came back in (about 3 times). The footage you see on the video, is from, i think, all 3 of those charges, plus the end footage is from a skirmish, just north of Sun rock, when we got followed by horde when leaving temporarily to regroup.
3. Yes, this was a level 20ish town, and yes, most of our raid party were around level 30-40. However, we made sure the horde knew we were coming. 1. To allow the players that didnt want to be there, time to get out. 2. To allow any horde who wanted to join in, time to get there, and hopefully, mass an army to face us. There was an army there, when we got there, and yes, there were some level 20s around in it. But, as pointed out by Paratrooper earlier in the forum, if you look at the targeted enemies during the video, you will see that most of them were level death to parin, a level 41, at the time. There were a few level 60s there, and the biggest level we had was 57 i think, and just one of them. But, like i said before, if the enemies didnt want to be there, they knew we were coming, and had time to leave.
4. I noticed a post with someone directly having a go at my flatmate, Parin. It was said that he needs to learn how to play in group situations. He wasnt really even fighting. He was pretty much just entangling anything he saw, and trying to get decent angles for the video. So saying that he doesnt know how to play is just plain ignorant. Parin is a fine player, and i'd much rather group with him, then someone who sits on forums, and bitches about things they know nothing about and calls themselves "leetist". Get a life.
5. This video was intended to be for the guild to view. And for anyone in the riad at the time, it is a great video, because we can watch and spot our friends and ourselves and have a laugh. From anyone else's point of view, it would be just a bunch of guys running around and doing stuff. Which i understand.
Well, thats my say. You know, computer games are meant to be fun. And fun is what we had. I dont like reading forums and hearing negative people trying to make them feel better about themselves by putting other people down. But thats my personal OPINION. Agree or disagree. Its up to you.
GLHF
Snapperhead (Blackrock Alliance)
SNAPPERHEAD the annoying gnome... ...in Heavens owN
SNAPPERHEAD the annoying gnome... ...in Heavens owN
Good post snapperhead, Dont worry about all those people coplaining about the video i thought it was cool. Every forum i visit has someone complaining about something/everything; I think some People just want to argue no matter what. Good video and nice choice of music if you put out the 30mb one ill watch that one too, hope to see more in the future.
-Open your mind for a different view-
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"4. I noticed a post with someone directly having a go at my flatmate, Parin. It was said that he needs to learn how to play in group situations. He wasnt really even fighting. He was pretty much just entangling anything he saw, and trying to get decent angles for the video. So saying that he doesnt know how to play is just plain ignorant. Parin is a fine player, and i'd much rather group with him, then someone who sits on forums, and bitches about things they know nothing about and calls themselves "leetist". Get a life."
Watching the movie it does look like you are right that Parin was more focused on getting footage than actually playing. Imo if you designate someone to be the "camera man" you should try turning off the UI so that you don't have to look at it. Also you should consider buying the full version of fraps rather than the demo version so we can get a more clear picture of the battles.
Fanglo 50 druid - DAOC OMG I Zerg in WoW that makes me uber!!! Get a life nooblets.
I healed Mistwraith and all I got was this stupid tee-shirt!
QUOTE: "Watching the movie it does look like you are right that Parin was more focused on getting footage than actually playing. Imo if you designate someone to be the "camera man" you should try turning off the UI so that you don't have to look at it. Also you should consider buying the full version of fraps rather than the demo version so we can get a more clear picture of the battles."
Like we said before, this is the low quality 13.6 MB version. The correct 30MB version will be uploaded and house as soon I put it up (which is so clear you can read everything on the screen, in full screen). However, considering all the ignorant, pointless, and picky critisim i received on this thread about the first one, i doubt i will allow the real version or any other movies i make in the future to be put on this website. I am gratefull for it being posted, unfortunatley the people on this forum seem far to irratatingly picky and bored to be worth wasting my time with. As for the UI, its part of the game, and demonstrates to the people watching it, on this site, how the game works, because you can see it. Also, its not like he was doing absolutely nothing. A lot can be done with the occasional Moonfire and Entangle.
SNAPPERHEAD the annoying gnome... ...in Heavens owN
SNAPPERHEAD the annoying gnome... ...in Heavens owN
Originally posted by Khalen To be honest the only thing I find nice about this movie is the music. And somehow I'm glad to watch it as it clearly shows this is just another zerg-o-rama game and saying they got more skills then others etc. Glad I didn't buy it yet. After the DAoC drama I'm not in the mood for another chapter of this...
Originally posted by Khalen To be honest the only thing I find nice about this movie is the music. And somehow I'm glad to watch it as it clearly shows this is just another zerg-o-rama game and saying they got more skills then others etc. Glad I didn't buy it yet. After the DAoC drama I'm not in the mood for another chapter of this...
You haven't a clue. When Battlegounds and Rankings get implemented there will actually be good reasons to PvP besides ganking people. You will get many different rewards for not only killing your enemy, but also for taking over a town or city. Even low level players will be able to participate and help defend their area. You need to go to www.worldofwarcraft.com and read up on Battlegrounds and Rankings before speaking about something you know nothing about. I'm glad you didn't buy it either.
Xander
DAoC had similar ranking systems and it didnt stop what he is talking about which is Zerg > strat period.
3. Yes, this was a level 20ish town, and yes, most of our raid party were around level 30-40. However, we made sure the horde knew we were coming. 1. To allow the players that didnt want to be there, time to get out. 2. To allow any horde who wanted to join in, time to get there, and hopefully, mass an army to face us. There was an army there, when we got there, and yes, there were some level 20s around in it. But, as pointed out by Paratrooper earlier in the forum, if you look at the targeted enemies during the video, you will see that most of them were level death to parin, a level 41, at the time. There were a few level 60s there, and the biggest level we had was 57 i think, and just one of them. But, like i said before, if the enemies didnt want to be there, they knew we were coming, and had time to leave.
GLHF Snapperhead (Blackrock Alliance)
SNAPPERHEAD the annoying gnome... ...in Heavens owN
Lol that's like saying, to some poor kids in an elementary school "Hey me and my 20 college buddies are going to kick your ass after school so be prepare and if you want bring friends to protect you or get out, KTHXBYE!!!11"
No, its like saying: "hey, we are gonna practice raiding your town. Get out if you dont want to be involved, stay or come here if you do. Your choice. We wont be long. See you soon."
Honestly, i dont know what tiny part of you people's brains decides to try and function and spit out some intelligence. Because its not working. Really. Why do bother even typing. Im suprised you know how. And god knows why i bother to reply....
Snapperhead
SNAPPERHEAD the annoying gnome... ...in Heavens owN
SNAPPERHEAD the annoying gnome... ...in Heavens owN
Snapperhead, I just wanted to say thank you for trying even though something as simple as sharing a movie has left many of the people here still finding things to complain about. I don't play WoW, I did mess with it alittle in beta however and did like what I did see of it.
I enjoyed the movie alot and I normally not being a PvP'er must say that was totally awesome. And if I was on either side of something that scale I would have had a blast. If I would have gotten roled by you guys I would have been laughing my ass off. That takes some planning and some teamwork to make happen. And that is a true raid, and it makes people start working together on the other side. Next time I am quite sure they will be abit more warey of letting their guard down so much and taking that its their home terf for granted. Reminds me of when I was in UO and my guild and another guild would take turns patrolling PK hotspots to keep the threat down, no reason why that can't be applied here.
Regardless of the whining, I just wanted you to know that some of us did appreciate the video.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
"Like we said before, this is the low quality 13.6 MB version. The correct 30MB version will be uploaded and house as soon I put it up (which is so clear you can read everything on the screen, in full screen). However, considering all the ignorant, pointless, and picky critisim i received on this thread about the first one, i doubt i will allow the real version or any other movies i make in the future to be put on this website. I am gratefull for it being posted, unfortunatley the people on this forum seem far to irratatingly picky and bored to be worth wasting my time with."
I wasn't talking about the quality of the movie, it was good enough for the public. I was talking about the 30 second fooatage limit that the fraps demo imposes. By a clearer picture I meant a longer stream of footage not a whole bunch of 30 second clips.
About posting movies on forums like this, you should expect and even seek out such criticisms on a certian lvl to help you make better movies in the future and have better raids. Personally on DaoC I fraps almost every single one of my battles just so I can see where I need to improve.
Fanglo 50 druid - DAOC OMG I Zerg in WoW that makes me uber!!! Get a life nooblets.
I healed Mistwraith and all I got was this stupid tee-shirt!
Originally posted by fanglo About posting movies on forums like this, you should expect and even seek out such criticisms on a certian lvl to help you make better movies in the future and have better raids. Personally on DaoC I fraps almost every single one of my battles just so I can see where I need to improve.
*laughing* right, and we should check out your home flicks and critique them so you can make better home movies and do better in life
Its a dam movie of an event someone shared. I don't think you have to be a qualified video export and camera man to take a motion capture of something you did with some friends. Thats just ignorant. If its what the people that it was taken for wanted then anything anyone else has to say is completely irrelevant and I highly doubt your going to give them any pointers on how they should have fun. Get over yourself.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by Fadeus Originally posted by fanglo About posting movies on forums like this, you should expect and even seek out such criticisms on a certian lvl to help you make better movies in the future and have better raids. Personally on DaoC I fraps almost every single one of my battles just so I can see where I need to improve.
*laughing* right, and we should check out your home flicks and critique them so you can make better home movies and do better in life
Its a dam movie of an event someone shared. I don't think you have to be a qualified video export and camera man to take a motion capture of something you did with some friends. Thats just ignorant. If its what the people that it was taken for wanted then anything anyone else has to say is completely irrelevant and I highly doubt your going to give them any pointers on how they should have fun. Get over yourself.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
I am not giving them pointers on how to have fun, but rather on how to make better videos. Using the full version of fraps rather than the demo enables the camera man to aquire longer streams of video. Also my comment about the UI was semi derived from every single WoW contest. How many WoW contests have you seen where the players left the UI on??? Being a semi active player in a Zerg it would be very easy to turn off the UI.
Fanglo 50 druid - DAOC OMG I Zerg in WoW that makes me uber!!! Get a life nooblets.
I healed Mistwraith and all I got was this stupid tee-shirt!
so you stated the obvious to them for what reason? I am quite sure they were aware of the time limit on FRAPS and had it been important to them I am quite sure they would have broke down and spen the $30 on it.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Comments
This gives you a nice little sound track cd and a code that entitels you to get on the lst beta all sounds so cool dont it but wait !
SO you get the news for the wow site that you could down load the said game using a bitmap download programe from blizzard.
Now rembering blizzard as such a great company for the less of net users aswewhere able to play mulityplayers games free and withlittle lag using a dial up modem...
Yeh right times have chanced and woth a nice little braod band conection i thought to my self oooh ill have my habd on this in the morning when i get up .
downloading the instaler.
ohh that was fast.
i was then extractiing the installer to my hard drive.
conetion made.
time on the download is 20 hours ah well i thought that not too bad.
then looking 10 mins later to find that the downloader had taken to my conection with a download esamated time.of 32 hours ! on broad band and a 1mb.
sumthing must be wrong i thought as i loged on to the wow uro website.
but it wasent me every on on the forum where complaing about how long the download time would be and how the bizard company its self had sucha down load installer rather than a exe file that wouldent have taken as much time dodown load for suchas fine planet of any pothere file downloading web site...
thoughts.
i cant think of why i would want to spend 32 hours of my time to actuly.donwload sumthing that would stop me playing any othere games i have.
i mean come on a 20 hour download over 2 night while inbed . not 3 or 4 lol
so the warning is unless you have time on your hand tojust sit about waitng and looking at a screen for a game that most probly will be out inthe next few months.. is just beond me..
thought it can handle it looks likesum of the opld type cards that eq2 cant handle/.
my thought moans and groans.
How about seeding the hq version w/ BitTorrent?
It's been made for cases like this.
shinjin
1. Read that ages ago
2. Doesn't change anything cause as it's told and shown there, over a 100 (maybe more or less depending on server and depending on more battlegrounds) will be continuously fighting there and all they can do is kill each other or take over some point. Which is same as any game with capture the point (+defending). There's nothing and absolutely nothing that says people ain't gonna zerg their way around.
3. Take a good look at DAoC servers and their Battlegrounds. Small zones, large nr of players -> zergs. And don't come with DAoC is a total different game. The mechanics is the same.
You'll see when it gets there, until then the movie proves my point
Thanks for the info! I've been wondering what Blizzard had planned for the Battlegrounds and you've obviously found out leaked inside-information.
I'm surprised that there'll be over 100 people fighting in each battleground, especially considering the fact that they're instanced, but your tone is so authoritarian I certainly wouldn't dare accuse you of just making stuff up or talking utter garbage.
Thanks again.
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1. Read that ages ago
2. Doesn't change anything cause as it's told and shown there, over a 100 (maybe more or less depending on server and depending on more battlegrounds) will be continuously fighting there and all they can do is kill each other or take over some point. Which is same as any game with capture the point (+defending). There's nothing and absolutely nothing that says people ain't gonna zerg their way around.
3. Take a good look at DAoC servers and their Battlegrounds. Small zones, large nr of players -> zergs. And don't come with DAoC is a total different game. The mechanics is the same.
You'll see when it gets there, until then the movie proves my point
Like I said. Not a clue. The difference is there will actually be a point to zerging when Battlegrounds and Rankings get put in place. People will actually try to fight others who are close to their level to kill as that is the only way to improve your RANK. Kill low level noobs will continue to earn you nothing. At certain ranked levels, you will get uber loot, some type of medal ranking and your name on the Ranking list on the website. I don't recall DAoC doing anything like this, but what do I know. Also, people will be able to gather blood from their defeated foe and then given them to an ally NPC who can summon Elementalist and other large guardians to fight on their side. Did DAoC have this? Supposely vehicles and ground weapons are suppose to be added as well. Not sure if they will add Guild Rankings within the game, but that's probably in the future plans as well.
If you don't want to play a game with PvP and zerging, then go and play EQ2. They don't have any PvP at ALL. The movie proves nothing. A bunch of Alliance people take over a Horde town that is barely ever visited. I was online when that raid happened. Everyone at the XR's just laughed and said it's not even worth travelling to Sunrock just to fight for that small town. Sun Rock usually only has about 15-30 people max in that town at any given time. They should have tried attacking the Crossroads or Thunder Bluff if they wanted a real fight. The video just proves that the Alliance can attack an unpopulated town. Didn't even show if they won or not. lol!!
Xander
Xander
Wow zerg much? What was the point of that movie besides the fact that you guys suck and need lots of people to do anything at all. Maybe get some skill and try to take a 5 man team out and see how well you do. But that might just be my leetist DaoC attitude coming out where anything over 1fg is frownd upon.
Whoever made the movie needs to learn how to pan, though in a massive zerg like that where you have no need for any real skill I can see why you don't pan at all. In a 5v5 battle that druid would get ownd because he has no experience with kiting or doing anything productive in a group.
I'm suprised that this site would even host a pos movie like that and send me an email telling me to check it out.
Fanglo 50 druid - DAOC
I healed Mistwraith and all I got was this stupid tee-shirt!
I'm in those kinds fo raids every day. I'm the priest in the back draining peoples mana.
fire ze missilez!1111
fire ze missilez!1111
Hey all,
I am Snapperhead. The maker (ie, mixer, soundtrack chooser, editor) of the video, and flatmate of Parin, the druid filming the video.
I'd like to point some things out, in relation to some of the previous posts here. Generaly, i dont talk on forums, because forums are usually just filled with people who have nothing better to do with their time but bitch and complain about things they cant deal with, or know nothing about. However, i made a video of our raid. I made it for our guilds sake, so we could have some laughs and keep some memories of our first raids.
1. This is the low quality 13.6MB version that is posted here, as i havent got around to housing the high quality 30MB version yet. I'd say it's on its way, but after reading this forum, i dont think i will bother.
2. Unless you play on Blackrock, you really have no idea what its like. This so called "zerging" behaviour, that we are doing, is daily practiced by both factions, horde and alliance, and is accepted. Personally, i dont see what is wrong with it. World of Warcraft is based on, and like one big game of, Warcraft 3. Its like you are playing one of the soldiers in a game of Warcraft3. And what do you do in a game of Warcraft 3 if you notice the enemy has an expansion somewhere? You send in your entire army in and whipe them of the map. Hence, zerging. May i also point out that Blizzard designed the "form raid" feature. Funnily enough, Blizzard also designed the Zergling. Go figure. Either way, this behaviiur is practised by both sides and if you are in a town and you dont like it, then leave for a while. We made our first charge, then left for about 5 minutes, to allow anyone who wanted to complete quests and get out the time to do so, then came back in (about 3 times). The footage you see on the video, is from, i think, all 3 of those charges, plus the end footage is from a skirmish, just north of Sun rock, when we got followed by horde when leaving temporarily to regroup.
3. Yes, this was a level 20ish town, and yes, most of our raid party were around level 30-40. However, we made sure the horde knew we were coming. 1. To allow the players that didnt want to be there, time to get out. 2. To allow any horde who wanted to join in, time to get there, and hopefully, mass an army to face us. There was an army there, when we got there, and yes, there were some level 20s around in it. But, as pointed out by Paratrooper earlier in the forum, if you look at the targeted enemies during the video, you will see that most of them were level death to parin, a level 41, at the time. There were a few level 60s there, and the biggest level we had was 57 i think, and just one of them. But, like i said before, if the enemies didnt want to be there, they knew we were coming, and had time to leave.
4. I noticed a post with someone directly having a go at my flatmate, Parin. It was said that he needs to learn how to play in group situations. He wasnt really even fighting. He was pretty much just entangling anything he saw, and trying to get decent angles for the video. So saying that he doesnt know how to play is just plain ignorant. Parin is a fine player, and i'd much rather group with him, then someone who sits on forums, and bitches about things they know nothing about and calls themselves "leetist". Get a life.
5. This video was intended to be for the guild to view. And for anyone in the riad at the time, it is a great video, because we can watch and spot our friends and ourselves and have a laugh. From anyone else's point of view, it would be just a bunch of guys running around and doing stuff. Which i understand.
Well, thats my say. You know, computer games are meant to be fun. And fun is what we had. I dont like reading forums and hearing negative people trying to make them feel better about themselves by putting other people down. But thats my personal OPINION. Agree or disagree. Its up to you.
GLHF
Snapperhead (Blackrock Alliance)
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"4. I noticed a post with someone directly having a go at my flatmate, Parin. It was said that he needs to learn how to play in group situations. He wasnt really even fighting. He was pretty much just entangling anything he saw, and trying to get decent angles for the video. So saying that he doesnt know how to play is just plain ignorant. Parin is a fine player, and i'd much rather group with him, then someone who sits on forums, and bitches about things they know nothing about and calls themselves "leetist". Get a life."
Watching the movie it does look like you are right that Parin was more focused on getting footage than actually playing. Imo if you designate someone to be the "camera man" you should try turning off the UI so that you don't have to look at it. Also you should consider buying the full version of fraps rather than the demo version so we can get a more clear picture of the battles.
Fanglo 50 druid - DAOC
OMG I Zerg in WoW that makes me uber!!! Get a life nooblets.
I healed Mistwraith and all I got was this stupid tee-shirt!
Xander
Thank you that's all I wanted to hear
Good, now go back and play EQ2.
Xander
Xander
SNAPPERHEAD
the annoying gnome...
...in Heavens owN
SNAPPERHEAD
the annoying gnome...
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You haven't a clue. When Battlegounds and Rankings get implemented there will actually be good reasons to PvP besides ganking people. You will get many different rewards for not only killing your enemy, but also for taking over a town or city. Even low level players will be able to participate and help defend their area. You need to go to www.worldofwarcraft.com and read up on Battlegrounds and Rankings before speaking about something you know nothing about. I'm glad you didn't buy it either.
Xander
DAoC had similar ranking systems and it didnt stop what he is talking about which is Zerg > strat period.
Lol that's like saying, to some poor kids in an elementary school "Hey me and my 20 college buddies are going to kick your ass after school so be prepare and if you want bring friends to protect you or get out, KTHXBYE!!!11"
But of course that is just my opinion
No, its like saying: "hey, we are gonna practice raiding your town. Get out if you dont want to be involved, stay or come here if you do. Your choice. We wont be long. See you soon."
Honestly, i dont know what tiny part of you people's brains decides to try and function and spit out some intelligence. Because its not working. Really. Why do bother even typing. Im suprised you know how. And god knows why i bother to reply....
Snapperhead
SNAPPERHEAD
the annoying gnome...
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SNAPPERHEAD
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Snapperhead, I just wanted to say thank you for trying even though something as simple as sharing a movie has left many of the people here still finding things to complain about. I don't play WoW, I did mess with it alittle in beta however and did like what I did see of it.
I enjoyed the movie alot and I normally not being a PvP'er must say that was totally awesome. And if I was on either side of something that scale I would have had a blast. If I would have gotten roled by you guys I would have been laughing my ass off. That takes some planning and some teamwork to make happen. And that is a true raid, and it makes people start working together on the other side. Next time I am quite sure they will be abit more warey of letting their guard down so much and taking that its their home terf for granted. Reminds me of when I was in UO and my guild and another guild would take turns patrolling PK hotspots to keep the threat down, no reason why that can't be applied here.
Regardless of the whining, I just wanted you to know that some of us did appreciate the video.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
"Like we said before, this is the low quality 13.6 MB version. The correct 30MB version will be uploaded and house as soon I put it up (which is so clear you can read everything on the screen, in full screen). However, considering all the ignorant, pointless, and picky critisim i received on this thread about the first one, i doubt i will allow the real version or any other movies i make in the future to be put on this website. I am gratefull for it being posted, unfortunatley the people on this forum seem far to irratatingly picky and bored to be worth wasting my time with."
I wasn't talking about the quality of the movie, it was good enough for the public. I was talking about the 30 second fooatage limit that the fraps demo imposes. By a clearer picture I meant a longer stream of footage not a whole bunch of 30 second clips.
About posting movies on forums like this, you should expect and even seek out such criticisms on a certian lvl to help you make better movies in the future and have better raids. Personally on DaoC I fraps almost every single one of my battles just so I can see where I need to improve.
Fanglo 50 druid - DAOC
OMG I Zerg in WoW that makes me uber!!! Get a life nooblets.
I healed Mistwraith and all I got was this stupid tee-shirt!
*laughing* right, and we should check out your home flicks and critique them so you can make better home movies and do better in life
Its a dam movie of an event someone shared. I don't think you have to be a qualified video export and camera man to take a motion capture of something you did with some friends. Thats just ignorant. If its what the people that it was taken for wanted then anything anyone else has to say is completely irrelevant and I highly doubt your going to give them any pointers on how they should have fun. Get over yourself.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
*laughing* right, and we should check out your home flicks and critique them so you can make better home movies and do better in life
Its a dam movie of an event someone shared. I don't think you have to be a qualified video export and camera man to take a motion capture of something you did with some friends. Thats just ignorant. If its what the people that it was taken for wanted then anything anyone else has to say is completely irrelevant and I highly doubt your going to give them any pointers on how they should have fun. Get over yourself.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
I am not giving them pointers on how to have fun, but rather on how to make better videos. Using the full version of fraps rather than the demo enables the camera man to aquire longer streams of video. Also my comment about the UI was semi derived from every single WoW contest. How many WoW contests have you seen where the players left the UI on??? Being a semi active player in a Zerg it would be very easy to turn off the UI.
Fanglo 50 druid - DAOC
OMG I Zerg in WoW that makes me uber!!! Get a life nooblets.
I healed Mistwraith and all I got was this stupid tee-shirt!
so you stated the obvious to them for what reason? I am quite sure they were aware of the time limit on FRAPS and had it been important to them I am quite sure they would have broke down and spen the $30 on it.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Thanks Fadeus. Its good to hear some nice words for a change. You just made my day.
Its good to know that there there is a least someone else out there that posts on forums that isnt a whiney, immature know-it-all.
Its good to hear from someone who understands why the video was made.
Thanks.
SNAPPERHEAD
the annoying gnome...
...in Heavens owN
SNAPPERHEAD
the annoying gnome...
...in Heavens owN
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
I did that live already in closed beta a bit ago, it was cool though allthough I was dead pretty fast
(was only level 30)