Really, you should not even consider games with subscription models that have not even had 2 months to gauge their success. You said yourself that being newly launched it is perhaps a bad idea to include them. I agree it is a bad idea. Age of Conan and Warhammer both launched with huge sales numbers, but after 3 months those numbers plummeted.
From a purely technical perspective MMOs with less than 3 months under their belts should not be listed. Even if it is an opinion peace; putting games that have not proven themselves lessens your credibility in my eyes. Come on man, you should know better. I would have respected the article more had Warhammer and AoC been up there. At least they've had a year or more to really show what they got. Aion and FE could possibly, and I believe they will, turn out as flavor-of-the-month games.
Personally I see Aion failing to meet NCSoft's expectations over here, because, if the rumblings I'm hearing over here in are true, Wetern audiences never adopt games which force group activity and grinding down the player's collective throats.
I am also surprised you haven't listed Champions Online. Despite some controversy between the developers and the players it has been well received, and based on your anecdotal process it should have made the list. At least it has been out for longer than 30 days.
*as an aside*
Anyone who thinks AoC should make this list should consider the community that game fosters. Never has more blatant disregard for other players been more prevalent to make people quit before really finding out what the game has to offer. I played it 3 months at launch and then again over this summer, and never have I been insulted and troll baited more often in any other game than AoC. It doesn't take rocket surgery to see that game is just a cesspool of players whom like to grief others and flaunt their supposed, unfounded, superiority over others. Based on the exposure of the community alone I would place this game on the worst 10 MMOs since WoW's launch.
At least when I got greifed in WoW it was done with respect to the person (i.e: waited until I at least killed what I was fighting before jumping me)
If this is the best mmos we have out there since WoW then we now all should understand why mmos have been failing. Lotro #1, are you kidding ? When Lotro launched nothing else was out and it plays almost no different than WoW. This list just shows how the quality of mmos have been in decline over the years. Oh and Guild Wars is not a mmo, its a CORPG (cooperative online roleplaying game), still glad it is there though!
. I'm rather curious though why Vanguard made the list and not, say Warhammer or Age of Conan..not that I've played either of them. While none of the three lived up to their hype, Warhammer at the least wasn't a failure at launch.
i think the interwebs would have exploded from troll if he included wither WAR or AoC in the list. A fair few cities would have been taken out from combusted nerdrage aswell, it just wouldn't have been worth it.
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I think you are not seing the real picture behind it. The IP was bought because one day, Disney will bring out a show based on it. The concept of club penguin is what sells but the game itself is... well seriously, bad.
I do agree with Maple Story but in my own opinion, everything that Nexon has brought out is worth to be on the list. Mabinogi for it's features and unique gameplay, Combat Arms for bringing back old school in a new sophisticated way...
It boggles my mind each time I see LOTRO on any list. Why you ask, well they continually take a dump on their customer base. You should see the forums.
I agree completely, which is why I never bought into LOTRO.
As several other people have indicated, Guild Wars belongs at the top of this list.
It boggles my mind each time I see LOTRO on any list. Why you ask, well they continually take a dump on their customer base. You should see the forums.
I agree completely, which is why I never bought into LOTRO.
As several other people have indicated, Guild Wars belongs at the top of this list.
Its pure Hyperbole, but. Ok.
I guess by "Continuialy dump on the playerbase" he means; "Add more content and features for free then any other MMO on the market", and, "Continuouslyoffer the best deal in MMO gameing by price, and solid gameplay and free content".
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Its sad to see that Runes of Magic didnt make the list. The game is AAA Quality and holds its own. Its just an opinion but RoM should have been on the list some were. Most of the player base has came from WoW or GW and the community is great. The game play is awesome and they are not short on updates and new things coming out. With the reworked Sounds and added graphics the game is visually impressive. The dual class system allows endless options of combos. The F2P aspect helps for those who have time and no money to invest into the game.
Vanguard got the nod over WAR and Conan in my mind as a kind of "most improved" prize. I think of the three, mostly due to amount of time passed, it has made the most improvements. All three had eerily similar launches. Conan is improving, as is WAR, but both still have a ways to go. Vanguard, though, seems to have found its stride.
I disagree with you comments.
The only way you could consider that Vanguard was the "most improved" is because it did not even run at launch.
Which is far far from the case of AoC and WAR which nullifies your statement that
"All three had eerily similar launches."
AoC is not improving, it has improved, far far more than Vanguard in a much shorted period of time, and it is well known that AoC is the most improved and fixed game, check here for an example.
Further to the above a trial for AoC was out earlier this year which can be taken as a test of confidence FUNCOM have in AOC, as is the free trail for Vanguard, only that Aoc's free trail came out within a year after launch and vanguards over 2 years.
With your above comments i have to ask you when was the last time you played AoC?
As the information you have on it seems slightly outdated! Which inturn jeopardizes your whole review!!
Its sad to see that Runes of Magic didnt make the list. The game is AAA Quality and holds its own. Its just an opinion but RoM should have been on the list some were. Most of the player base has came from WoW or GW and the community is great. The game play is awesome and they are not short on updates and new things coming out. With the reworked Sounds and added graphics the game is visually impressive. The dual class system allows endless options of combos. The F2P aspect helps for those who have time and no money to invest into the game. As far as i know RoM is MMO's Best kept secret
Here is the secret. It is no secret. It isn't madly popular because frankly it is the only true wow clone. It copied almost everything from WoW. Sure you got dual classes with all those combos but well only a few are very good. There are standard cookie cutter builds just like it every game.
Its sad to see that Runes of Magic didnt make the list. The game is AAA Quality and holds its own. Its just an opinion but RoM should have been on the list some were. Most of the player base has came from WoW or GW and the community is great. The game play is awesome and they are not short on updates and new things coming out. With the reworked Sounds and added graphics the game is visually impressive. The dual class system allows endless options of combos. The F2P aspect helps for those who have time and no money to invest into the game. As far as i know RoM is MMO's Best kept secret
Here is the secret. It is no secret. It isn't madly popular because frankly it is the only true wow clone. It copied almost everything from WoW. Sure you got dual classes with all those combos but well only a few are very good. There are standard cookie cutter builds just like it every game.
Woah woah woah, first 1up's review of Aion and now this article with LotrO at #1 ... can't beleive people are finally getting things right ! Good read , though Aion doesn't belong there.
look at the games that have launched since WoW and tell me how theres really anything better than Aion or LOTRO.
I would have to agree with lotro being the most successfull since WoW. More or less it has probably held the most amount of playerbase. I was dissapointed to not see warhammer online on this list though!
can't really say that even though gw isn't an mmorpg it still has a larger player base than lotro.
Are YOU kidding????? Where the f... is Age of Conan? And seriously i didn't even hear half of the games on this list!! If you made the list just to wake up the discussion you made it!
It boggles my mind each time I see LOTRO on any list. Why you ask, well they continually take a dump on their customer base. You should see the forums.
I agree completely, which is why I never bought into LOTRO.
As several other people have indicated, Guild Wars belongs at the top of this list.
Its pure Hyperbole, but. Ok.
I guess by "Continuialy dump on the playerbase" he means; "Add more content and features for free then any other MMO on the market", and, "Continuouslyoffer the best deal in MMO gameing by price, and solid gameplay and free content".
More free content surely you jest. The only content we gotten lately that was really free was the hampster wheel of death repeatable bounty quests. The rest was suposed to be delivered with MOM. The rest we have to buy with the adventure pac, no free in that.
Dana, is the only way you get people to view / reply to your articles to type stupid or controversial things? Really, Club Penguin? Guild Wars isn't even an MMO.
In my opinio this list is absolutely rigth i alredy played WOW,WAR,LOTRO,ROM and now Aion
From this 5 games the one that i enjoyed more playing was Lotro but by far... the only reason im playing aion now is that in my country, you can only find, time cards in 1 mall because the others like (fnac ex.) only care about wow timecards xD
So all im saying is that i played all this 5 and i loved by far lotro.
P.S: LOTRO 10-days-trial is realy different from the retail vers. and if you donwloaded the shortest trial, it's even more different ... so don't ilude your self...
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I think this article should be called top 10 MOST POPULAR MMOs since WOW. Cause there are lot of quality games out there not mentioned in article
Dana:
Really, you should not even consider games with subscription models that have not even had 2 months to gauge their success. You said yourself that being newly launched it is perhaps a bad idea to include them. I agree it is a bad idea. Age of Conan and Warhammer both launched with huge sales numbers, but after 3 months those numbers plummeted.
From a purely technical perspective MMOs with less than 3 months under their belts should not be listed. Even if it is an opinion peace; putting games that have not proven themselves lessens your credibility in my eyes. Come on man, you should know better. I would have respected the article more had Warhammer and AoC been up there. At least they've had a year or more to really show what they got. Aion and FE could possibly, and I believe they will, turn out as flavor-of-the-month games.
Personally I see Aion failing to meet NCSoft's expectations over here, because, if the rumblings I'm hearing over here in are true, Wetern audiences never adopt games which force group activity and grinding down the player's collective throats.
I am also surprised you haven't listed Champions Online. Despite some controversy between the developers and the players it has been well received, and based on your anecdotal process it should have made the list. At least it has been out for longer than 30 days.
*as an aside*
Anyone who thinks AoC should make this list should consider the community that game fosters. Never has more blatant disregard for other players been more prevalent to make people quit before really finding out what the game has to offer. I played it 3 months at launch and then again over this summer, and never have I been insulted and troll baited more often in any other game than AoC. It doesn't take rocket surgery to see that game is just a cesspool of players whom like to grief others and flaunt their supposed, unfounded, superiority over others. Based on the exposure of the community alone I would place this game on the worst 10 MMOs since WoW's launch.
At least when I got greifed in WoW it was done with respect to the person (i.e: waited until I at least killed what I was fighting before jumping me)
If this is the best mmos we have out there since WoW then we now all should understand why mmos have been failing. Lotro #1, are you kidding ? When Lotro launched nothing else was out and it plays almost no different than WoW. This list just shows how the quality of mmos have been in decline over the years. Oh and Guild Wars is not a mmo, its a CORPG (cooperative online roleplaying game), still glad it is there though!
So you give LOTRO the top spot eh?
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i think the interwebs would have exploded from troll if he included wither WAR or AoC in the list. A fair few cities would have been taken out from combusted nerdrage aswell, it just wouldn't have been worth it.
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Club penguin
I think you are not seing the real picture behind it. The IP was bought because one day, Disney will bring out a show based on it. The concept of club penguin is what sells but the game itself is... well seriously, bad.
I do agree with Maple Story but in my own opinion, everything that Nexon has brought out is worth to be on the list. Mabinogi for it's features and unique gameplay, Combat Arms for bringing back old school in a new sophisticated way...
Ijji, Nexon, ND are top
My top five would be as follows:
1. LOTRO
2. AION
3. GW
4. VANGUARD
5. FALLEN EARTH
Those other games on the list i could not care less about. they were mostly f2p games for 10 year olds imo.
I agree completely, which is why I never bought into LOTRO.
As several other people have indicated, Guild Wars belongs at the top of this list.
I agree completely, which is why I never bought into LOTRO.
As several other people have indicated, Guild Wars belongs at the top of this list.
Its pure Hyperbole, but. Ok.
I guess by "Continuialy dump on the playerbase" he means; "Add more content and features for free then any other MMO on the market", and, "Continuously offer the best deal in MMO gameing by price, and solid gameplay and free content".
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Its sad to see that Runes of Magic didnt make the list. The game is AAA Quality and holds its own. Its just an opinion but RoM should have been on the list some were. Most of the player base has came from WoW or GW and the community is great. The game play is awesome and they are not short on updates and new things coming out. With the reworked Sounds and added graphics the game is visually impressive. The dual class system allows endless options of combos. The F2P aspect helps for those who have time and no money to invest into the game.
As far as i know RoM is MMO's Best kept secret
rofl that was like 500k max im sure most of em reached that already
I disagree with you comments.
The only way you could consider that Vanguard was the "most improved" is because it did not even run at launch.
Which is far far from the case of AoC and WAR which nullifies your statement that
"All three had eerily similar launches."
AoC is not improving, it has improved, far far more than Vanguard in a much shorted period of time, and it is well known that AoC is the most improved and fixed game, check here for an example.
Further to the above a trial for AoC was out earlier this year which can be taken as a test of confidence FUNCOM have in AOC, as is the free trail for Vanguard, only that Aoc's free trail came out within a year after launch and vanguards over 2 years.
With your above comments i have to ask you when was the last time you played AoC?
As the information you have on it seems slightly outdated! Which inturn jeopardizes your whole review!!
Here is the secret. It is no secret. It isn't madly popular because frankly it is the only true wow clone. It copied almost everything from WoW. Sure you got dual classes with all those combos but well only a few are very good. There are standard cookie cutter builds just like it every game.
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Here is the secret. It is no secret. It isn't madly popular because frankly it is the only true wow clone. It copied almost everything from WoW. Sure you got dual classes with all those combos but well only a few are very good. There are standard cookie cutter builds just like it every game.
Still should have made the list.
2mil users in less then a year from launch.
look at the games that have launched since WoW and tell me how theres really anything better than Aion or LOTRO.
I would have to agree with lotro being the most successfull since WoW. More or less it has probably held the most amount of playerbase.
I was dissapointed to not see warhammer online on this list though!
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rofl that was like 500k max im sure most of em reached that already
Other than the F2P you'd be wrong. Funny, that you think LOTRO has that many when its a ghost town.
can't really say that even though gw isn't an mmorpg it still has a larger player base than lotro.
Are YOU kidding????? Where the f... is Age of Conan? And seriously i didn't even hear half of the games on this list!! If you made the list just to wake up the discussion you made it!
I agree completely, which is why I never bought into LOTRO.
As several other people have indicated, Guild Wars belongs at the top of this list.
Its pure Hyperbole, but. Ok.
I guess by "Continuialy dump on the playerbase" he means; "Add more content and features for free then any other MMO on the market", and, "Continuously offer the best deal in MMO gameing by price, and solid gameplay and free content".
More free content surely you jest. The only content we gotten lately that was really free was the hampster wheel of death repeatable bounty quests. The rest was suposed to be delivered with MOM. The rest we have to buy with the adventure pac, no free in that.
Dana, is the only way you get people to view / reply to your articles to type stupid or controversial things? Really, Club Penguin? Guild Wars isn't even an MMO.
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In my opinio this list is absolutely rigth i alredy played WOW,WAR,LOTRO,ROM and now Aion
From this 5 games the one that i enjoyed more playing was Lotro but by far... the only reason im playing aion now is that in my country, you can only find, time cards in 1 mall because the others like (fnac ex.) only care about wow timecards xD
So all im saying is that i played all this 5 and i loved by far lotro.
P.S: LOTRO 10-days-trial is realy different from the retail vers. and if you donwloaded the shortest trial, it's even more different ... so don't ilude your self...
Thanks =D
lock up yo kids, lock up yo wife, even yo husband cuz they rapin everybody round here