I'm sorry, but deep down - you now that it's wrong
I will agree that Pedophiles and molestation are wrong. But I see no harm in using it as a name for an avatar. Explain how any actual harm can come from this and I'll shut up. But if the only reason why people don't want it on their online games is beacuse they feel that it's wrong when no actual harm is done. Then it seems to me that those feelings just come from a fear of what's different, and that is in my opinion a bigger issue then someones name in a video game.
Because if you think it's ok to let someone use these names as an avatar - your supporting whatever goes through the idiots heads who created the character. Plus why not just use a more sensible/normal name?, is that so hard?
But all these games are about killing some poor creatures, or even people, and robbing them of their loot and even their body parts. And you are worried about how a toon is named?
Frankly, I think naming a toon "Pedophile" is pretty stupid, but there are far worse things in this world to be worried about.
Ha ha! Good point. People are complaining about rude offensive character names in a game where people play the parts of violent mass murderers lol
Yeah, I have dubbed MMO's and RPG's, "Monster Mugger" long ago, because that is what it is. The games are fun, but yeah, monster mugging is core to them all.
Monster Mugger!! Ha ha ha! Thats awesome! Someone should make it. "Phat Loot Farmer" was one of my old favourites too.
I'm sorry, but deep down - you now that it's wrong
I will agree that Pedophiles and molestation are wrong. But I see no harm in using it as a name for an avatar. Explain how any actual harm can come from this and I'll shut up. But if the only reason why people don't want it on their online games is beacuse they feel that it's wrong when no actual harm is done. Then it seems to me that those feelings just come from a fear of what's different, and that is in my opinion a bigger issue then someones name in a video game.
Because if you think it's ok to let someone use these names as an avatar - your supporting whatever goes through the idiots heads who created the character. Plus why not just use a more sensible/normal name?, is that so hard?
But all these games are about killing some poor creatures, or even people, and robbing them of their loot and even their body parts. And you are worried about how a toon is named?
Frankly, I think naming a toon "Pedophile" is pretty stupid, but there are far worse things in this world to be worried about.
Ha ha! Good point. People are complaining about rude offensive character names in a game where people play the parts of violent mass murderers lol
Its one thing to play a computer game where your polygon is destroying some other polygons. To bring RL Evil into a game though brings things to a completely new level. It is just plain and simply wrong. If someone is incapable of understanding that then they have a lot of personal issues to deal with. I personally dont think there are far worse things in the world to worry about myself from someone naming their toon pedophile. I think its right there with the very worst things because pedophilia is I believe the absolute worst thing humanity can do and anything that even remotely jokes about it or makes the appearence that its all cool is just wrong. It is much much worse than using racially offensive language as name and thats bad enough.
But the Pedophile toon is polygons too... and slicing beings with swords and shooting them is from RL too..
anyways..
Ok, you find pedophelia the most heinous crime for humanity. Fare enough.
But what about those who find being of another religion the most vile thing ever?
What about being gay?
Or, consider my Jehova Witness relatives who think magic, fantasy and all that is the work of the Devil... and the Devil = the most heinous thing ever (for them). For them, my playing of RPG's has already caused my soul to be forsaken.
hmmm... This is what I have been talking about to my friends. Since when have words become such a horrible thing? Really, is this what the world is coming to. A bunch of pansies who need to shelter everything from children or have to stop using certain words just cause it offends someone else? Get over yourself people. They are just that WORDS! They become something else when used in a different way, than they are no longer words. Kids have to understand that and have to learn when to use them and when not to use them.
Please if you have a problem with it report it. Don't bring your complaints here, no one will care. No one should care. It is your own opinion. Sheesh!
I'm sorry, but deep down - you now that it's wrong
I will agree that Pedophiles and molestation are wrong. But I see no harm in using it as a name for an avatar. Explain how any actual harm can come from this and I'll shut up. But if the only reason why people don't want it on their online games is beacuse they feel that it's wrong when no actual harm is done. Then it seems to me that those feelings just come from a fear of what's different, and that is in my opinion a bigger issue then someones name in a video game.
Because if you think it's ok to let someone use these names as an avatar - your supporting whatever goes through the idiots heads who created the character. Plus why not just use a more sensible/normal name?, is that so hard?
But all these games are about killing some poor creatures, or even people, and robbing them of their loot and even their body parts. And you are worried about how a toon is named?
Frankly, I think naming a toon "Pedophile" is pretty stupid, but there are far worse things in this world to be worried about.
Ha ha! Good point. People are complaining about rude offensive character names in a game where people play the parts of violent mass murderers lol
Yeah, I have dubbed MMO's and RPG's, "Monster Mugger" long ago, because that is what it is. The games are fun, but yeah, monster mugging is core to them all.
Monster Mugger!! Ha ha ha! Thats awesome! Someone should make it. "Phat Loot Farmer" was one of my old favourites too.
Originally posted by Korhindi You could come up with 5000 to 10000 unique names? I'll expect the list by friday. Btw, what about games like Eve who use only one server for 300K players?
I have played a LOT of RPGs and created a LOT of alts in the MMOs I have played.
For EvE or CO, use a first and last name. Haul out a couple of baby name books, the periodic table, an atlas, a list of constellations, etc. 5000*5000=25 MILLION names.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Does not suprise me. NC Soft is only capable of complete failure. This game is COMPLETE garbage
You obviously have never played Perfect World, Silk Road, Age of Conan, Jade Dynasty, WaR, or even WoW, because I have seen all that and more on those games...
This is not to say that such in Aion is any better, but any game, especially free to play has this problem.
Does not suprise me. NC Soft is only capable of complete failure. This game is COMPLETE garbage
You obviously have never played Perfect World, Silk Road, Age of Conan, Jade Dynasty, WaR, or even WoW, because I have seen all that and more on those games...
This is not to say that such in Aion is any better, but any game, especially free to play has this problem.
At least a few of the curent F2P MMOs use name lists. Wizard 101 and Free Realms do, I believe.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Originally posted by Korhindi You could come up with 5000 to 10000 unique names? I'll expect the list by friday. Btw, what about games like Eve who use only one server for 300K players?
I have played a LOT of RPGs and created a LOT of alts in the MMOs I have played.
For EvE or CO, use a first and last name. Haul out a couple of baby name books, the periodic table, an atlas, a list of constellations, etc. 5000*5000=25 MILLION names.
Second Life uses last names, btw, and has 10 million toons in one virtual space, you'll need to get cracking.
Besides, if you think XLegolasX is bad, I can just see how well Triangulum Austrailus, Antlia Pnuematica, and Canis Major would so preserve the immersion of a game... not. (All constellation names).
Also, your baby names + last name better not mirror the name of real folks, or there could be legal issues.... doh... didn't think of that did you?
Second Life uses last names, btw, and has 10 million toons in one virtual space, you'll need to get cracking. As I said: 5000 first name * 5000 last names = 25 million combinations. Besides, if you think XLegolasX is bad, I can just see how well Triangulum Austrailus, Antlia Pnuematica, and Canis Major would so preserve the immersion of a game... not. (All constellation names). They would work just fine for EvE, I think.
Also, your baby names + last name better not mirror the name of real folks, or there could be legal issues.... doh... didn't think of that did you?
You're just trying to score points now.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
I'm sorry, but deep down - you now that it's wrong
I will agree that Pedophiles and molestation are wrong. But I see no harm in using it as a name for an avatar. Explain how any actual harm can come from this and I'll shut up. But if the only reason why people don't want it on their online games is beacuse they feel that it's wrong when no actual harm is done. Then it seems to me that those feelings just come from a fear of what's different, and that is in my opinion a bigger issue then someones name in a video game.
Because if you think it's ok to let someone use these names as an avatar - your supporting whatever goes through the idiots heads who created the character. Plus why not just use a more sensible/normal name?, is that so hard?
....and what is going through the head of the person who created the character? Probably something along the lines of "Ha! This will cause some stuck up person who is overly sensitive to get upset. I will get a response out of them and have an effect on their lives because they will take this really seriously. Who knows maybe they will take it so seriously that they will start complaining about it on a forum. Then that will mean I have had an even bigger impact on more people lives. Hurray! More power to me!"
Congratulations. You and everyone else complaining about this is doing EXACTLY what that "idiot" imagined you would be doing. For an "idiot" he is doing a great job of pulling your strings.
Oh and no its not hard to use a normal name. Its also not hard to type in a rude one either.
I'm sorry, but deep down - you now that it's wrong
I will agree that Pedophiles and molestation are wrong. But I see no harm in using it as a name for an avatar. Explain how any actual harm can come from this and I'll shut up. But if the only reason why people don't want it on their online games is beacuse they feel that it's wrong when no actual harm is done. Then it seems to me that those feelings just come from a fear of what's different, and that is in my opinion a bigger issue then someones name in a video game.
Because if you think it's ok to let someone use these names as an avatar - your supporting whatever goes through the idiots heads who created the character. Plus why not just use a more sensible/normal name?, is that so hard?
But all these games are about killing some poor creatures, or even people, and robbing them of their loot and even their body parts. And you are worried about how a toon is named?
Frankly, I think naming a toon "Pedophile" is pretty stupid, but there are far worse things in this world to be worried about.
Ha ha! Good point. People are complaining about rude offensive character names in a game where people play the parts of violent mass murderers lol
Its one thing to play a computer game where your polygon is destroying some other polygons. To bring RL Evil into a game though brings things to a completely new level. It is just plain and simply wrong. If someone is incapable of understanding that then they have a lot of personal issues to deal with. I personally dont think there are far worse things in the world to worry about myself from someone naming their toon pedophile. I think its right there with the very worst things because pedophilia is I believe the absolute worst thing humanity can do and anything that even remotely jokes about it or makes the appearence that its all cool is just wrong. It is much much worse than using racially offensive language as name and thats bad enough.
But the Pedophile toon is polygons too... and slicing beings with swords and shooting them is from RL too..
anyways..
Ok, you find pedophelia the most heinous crime for humanity. Fare enough.
But what about those who find being of another religion the most vile thing ever?
What about being gay?
Or, consider my Jehova Witness relatives who think magic, fantasy and all that is the work of the Devil... and the Devil = the most heinous thing ever (for them). For them, my playing of RPG's has already caused my soul to be forsaken.
It is all a matter of perspective.
What an interresting yet frightening discussion. Its like watching the America presidential elecetion.
Religious Bigots (Republicans) vs Freedom Fanatics (Democrats)
Originally posted by BishopB:
Are a lot of the trolls just angry kids with old gaming hardware?
That's irrelevant. The point is valid. People often DO make up offensive names to get a rise out of the more sensitive.
I saw someone playing a female Witch Hunter in Warhammer with the name 'Moistcooter'. I reported it, not because it was offensive to me, but it certainly would offend some people - as it was no doubt meant to.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
I'm sorry, but deep down - you now that it's wrong
I will agree that Pedophiles and molestation are wrong. But I see no harm in using it as a name for an avatar. Explain how any actual harm can come from this and I'll shut up. But if the only reason why people don't want it on their online games is beacuse they feel that it's wrong when no actual harm is done. Then it seems to me that those feelings just come from a fear of what's different, and that is in my opinion a bigger issue then someones name in a video game.
Because if you think it's ok to let someone use these names as an avatar - your supporting whatever goes through the idiots heads who created the character. Plus why not just use a more sensible/normal name?, is that so hard?
But all these games are about killing some poor creatures, or even people, and robbing them of their loot and even their body parts. And you are worried about how a toon is named?
Frankly, I think naming a toon "Pedophile" is pretty stupid, but there are far worse things in this world to be worried about.
Ha ha! Good point. People are complaining about rude offensive character names in a game where people play the parts of violent mass murderers lol
Its one thing to play a computer game where your polygon is destroying some other polygons. To bring RL Evil into a game though brings things to a completely new level. It is just plain and simply wrong. If someone is incapable of understanding that then they have a lot of personal issues to deal with. I personally dont think there are far worse things in the world to worry about myself from someone naming their toon pedophile. I think its right there with the very worst things because pedophilia is I believe the absolute worst thing humanity can do and anything that even remotely jokes about it or makes the appearence that its all cool is just wrong. It is much much worse than using racially offensive language as name and thats bad enough.
Yeah obviously the actual reality of pedophilia is wrong. Everyone knows that. However although using the name "Pedophile" is extremely bad taste, it is also totally harmless and is a far cry from "bringing real life evil" into a game which promotes the violent slaughter of your enemies as the only means of self improvement. Yeah you're right its only pixels and polygons. So is the word "Paedofile" on your screen. Its not like they are uploading child porn into the game is it.
Oh and using a capitial E for evil in an attempt to add religious significance to the word doesnt add any weight to your argument. Words only have the power you give them so why give that word so much importance? But then thats part of the job of religion......to breed fear into the minds of children and cause them to grow up into fearful and easily manipulated adults.
Second Life uses last names, btw, and has 10 million toons in one virtual space, you'll need to get cracking. As I said: 5000 first name * 5000 last names = 25 million combinations. Besides, if you think XLegolasX is bad, I can just see how well Triangulum Austrailus, Antlia Pnuematica, and Canis Major would so preserve the immersion of a game... not. (All constellation names). They would work just fine for EvE, I think.
Also, your baby names + last name better not mirror the name of real folks, or there could be legal issues.... doh... didn't think of that did you?
You're just trying to score points now.
I don't know, naming oneself after constellations in any game, sci-fi or not seems pretty dumb to me. I personally hate it when movie characters are named that. It reeks of no creativity.
I always though that part of the allure of MMO's was my influencing a virtual world through my character. That begins with the name.
Why not just assign a number or code .... hexidecimal would work... no getting offended, all players are on equal footing and no legal issues about "coincidental naming."
On a serious note, I am not making up the RL name issue.
In WoW, in 2006, I made a gnome rogue and named him MickDagger. After two weeks of play, I got a note telling me that the name was not acceptable and I had to change (or the toon would be deleted) because it was too similar to the rock star Mick Jagger.
All I can say after just reading the first page is OMG!!!!!!!!!! Yes they're just words but the acts that are represented are illegal!!! You think its fine to molest a 10 year old? If you do you have SEVERE problems and shouldnt be allowed near ANY under 18s. No, saying the word is ok, isnt the same thing as saying being a pedophile is, but its not damn far off the mark. I fully agree with the OP and if it hasnt already been, it should be reported to NCSOFT *immediately* I know they wont stand for that crap and will address it, unfortunately however you get the kids thinking its cool and if its not nipped fast enough, one goes another will pop up. I have experience with whats tollerated and whats not and I know the act, is a deal with it situatuion, no questions asked and illegal discussions, which the name prompts is also a matter that gets addressed.
So shut up with your damn cotton wool accusations and take a long hard think about what is right and wrong and if you can honestly tell me its ok to, say, rape an 8 yr old and the law agrees with you, I'll shut up...... If you believe this is ok however, you need a SERIOUS attitude adjustment......... dont spose they'll introduce shock therapy to deal with these morons?
I'm sorry, but deep down - you now that it's wrong
I will agree that Pedophiles and molestation are wrong. But I see no harm in using it as a name for an avatar. Explain how any actual harm can come from this and I'll shut up. But if the only reason why people don't want it on their online games is beacuse they feel that it's wrong when no actual harm is done. Then it seems to me that those feelings just come from a fear of what's different, and that is in my opinion a bigger issue then someones name in a video game.
Because if you think it's ok to let someone use these names as an avatar - your supporting whatever goes through the idiots heads who created the character. Plus why not just use a more sensible/normal name?, is that so hard?
But all these games are about killing some poor creatures, or even people, and robbing them of their loot and even their body parts. And you are worried about how a toon is named?
Frankly, I think naming a toon "Pedophile" is pretty stupid, but there are far worse things in this world to be worried about.
Ha ha! Good point. People are complaining about rude offensive character names in a game where people play the parts of violent mass murderers lol
Its one thing to play a computer game where your polygon is destroying some other polygons. To bring RL Evil into a game though brings things to a completely new level. It is just plain and simply wrong. If someone is incapable of understanding that then they have a lot of personal issues to deal with. I personally dont think there are far worse things in the world to worry about myself from someone naming their toon pedophile. I think its right there with the very worst things because pedophilia is I believe the absolute worst thing humanity can do and anything that even remotely jokes about it or makes the appearence that its all cool is just wrong. It is much much worse than using racially offensive language as name and thats bad enough.
But the Pedophile toon is polygons too... and slicing beings with swords and shooting them is from RL too..
anyways..
Ok, you find pedophelia the most heinous crime for humanity. Fare enough.
But what about those who find being of another religion the most vile thing ever?
What about being gay?
Or, consider my Jehova Witness relatives who think magic, fantasy and all that is the work of the Devil... and the Devil = the most heinous thing ever (for them). For them, my playing of RPG's has already caused my soul to be forsaken.
It is all a matter of perspective.
What an interresting yet frightening discussion. Its like watching the America presidential elecetion.
Religious Bigots (Republicans) vs Freedom Fanatics (Democrats)
Ok - what happens if a person playing Aion who has been molested in real life see's a character with this name. It's not going to effect them that much granted, however it is going to offend and maybe even upset them.
Now remember this person is just paying to play a game they enjoy - so who is in the wrong here?
If anyone says that it's the person who has been molested problem or they should get over it, then I give up - you must be right.
Btw: in regards to "it's just a word". The point of words is for meaning and communication, without meaning a word is nothing, but every word will always have meaning attached to it as it is the point of the word. Words and meanings go hand in hand, thats the whole point of language.
I'm sorry, but deep down - you now that it's wrong
I will agree that Pedophiles and molestation are wrong. But I see no harm in using it as a name for an avatar. Explain how any actual harm can come from this and I'll shut up. But if the only reason why people don't want it on their online games is beacuse they feel that it's wrong when no actual harm is done. Then it seems to me that those feelings just come from a fear of what's different, and that is in my opinion a bigger issue then someones name in a video game.
Because if you think it's ok to let someone use these names as an avatar - your supporting whatever goes through the idiots heads who created the character. Plus why not just use a more sensible/normal name?, is that so hard?
....and what is going through the head of the person who created the character? Probably something along the lines of "Ha! This will cause some stuck up person who is overly sensitive to get upset. I will get a response out of them and have an effect on their lives because they will take this really seriously. Who knows maybe they will take it so seriously that they will start complaining about it on a forum. Then that will mean I have had an even bigger impact on more people lives. Hurray! More power to me!"
Congratulations. You and everyone else complaining about this is doing EXACTLY what that "idiot" imagined you would be doing. For an "idiot" he is doing a great job of pulling your strings.
Oh and no its not hard to use a normal name. Its also not hard to type in a rude one either.
Are you the one who created the character?
Yes I am but......shhhhh.......dont tell anyone. I dont want my mum finding out and banning me from playing computer games.
I don't know, naming oneself after constellations in any game, sci-fi or not seems pretty dumb to me. I personally hate it when movie characters are named that. It reeks of no creativity. I always though that part of the allure of MMO's was my influencing a virtual world through my character. That begins with the name. Name lists are not needed to restrain reasonable people. Why not just assign a number or code .... hexidecimal would work... no getting offended, all players are on equal footing and no legal issues about "coincidental naming." On a serious note, I am not making up the RL name issue. In WoW, in 2006, I made a gnome rogue and named him MickDagger. After two weeks of play, I got a note telling me that the name was not acceptable and I had to change (or the toon would be deleted) because it was too similar to the rock star Mick Jagger.
WoW doesn't delete characters violating the naming conventions - they rename them.
If you had named your character Michealdagger, you might have been just fine. They won't fault you for picking just any schlub's name. It's 'famous' names that are verbotten.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Would you act this way in real life? Walk down the street and say Hi i'm pedophile? Would you do this around your parents? Your boss? You know what would happen...
This thread is FULL of cowards that hide behind being anonymous on the internet. Cowards.
How do you think a person that was abused as a child would feel sseing those names... What a bunch of loosers and sickos...
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I will agree that Pedophiles and molestation are wrong. But I see no harm in using it as a name for an avatar. Explain how any actual harm can come from this and I'll shut up. But if the only reason why people don't want it on their online games is beacuse they feel that it's wrong when no actual harm is done. Then it seems to me that those feelings just come from a fear of what's different, and that is in my opinion a bigger issue then someones name in a video game.
Because if you think it's ok to let someone use these names as an avatar - your supporting whatever goes through the idiots heads who created the character. Plus why not just use a more sensible/normal name?, is that so hard?
But all these games are about killing some poor creatures, or even people, and robbing them of their loot and even their body parts. And you are worried about how a toon is named?
Frankly, I think naming a toon "Pedophile" is pretty stupid, but there are far worse things in this world to be worried about.
Ha ha! Good point. People are complaining about rude offensive character names in a game where people play the parts of violent mass murderers lol
Yeah, I have dubbed MMO's and RPG's, "Monster Mugger" long ago, because that is what it is. The games are fun, but yeah, monster mugging is core to them all.
Monster Mugger!! Ha ha ha! Thats awesome! Someone should make it. "Phat Loot Farmer" was one of my old favourites too.
I will agree that Pedophiles and molestation are wrong. But I see no harm in using it as a name for an avatar. Explain how any actual harm can come from this and I'll shut up. But if the only reason why people don't want it on their online games is beacuse they feel that it's wrong when no actual harm is done. Then it seems to me that those feelings just come from a fear of what's different, and that is in my opinion a bigger issue then someones name in a video game.
Because if you think it's ok to let someone use these names as an avatar - your supporting whatever goes through the idiots heads who created the character. Plus why not just use a more sensible/normal name?, is that so hard?
But all these games are about killing some poor creatures, or even people, and robbing them of their loot and even their body parts. And you are worried about how a toon is named?
Frankly, I think naming a toon "Pedophile" is pretty stupid, but there are far worse things in this world to be worried about.
Ha ha! Good point. People are complaining about rude offensive character names in a game where people play the parts of violent mass murderers lol
Its one thing to play a computer game where your polygon is destroying some other polygons. To bring RL Evil into a game though brings things to a completely new level. It is just plain and simply wrong. If someone is incapable of understanding that then they have a lot of personal issues to deal with. I personally dont think there are far worse things in the world to worry about myself from someone naming their toon pedophile. I think its right there with the very worst things because pedophilia is I believe the absolute worst thing humanity can do and anything that even remotely jokes about it or makes the appearence that its all cool is just wrong. It is much much worse than using racially offensive language as name and thats bad enough.
But the Pedophile toon is polygons too... and slicing beings with swords and shooting them is from RL too..
anyways..
Ok, you find pedophelia the most heinous crime for humanity. Fare enough.
But what about those who find being of another religion the most vile thing ever?
What about being gay?
Or, consider my Jehova Witness relatives who think magic, fantasy and all that is the work of the Devil... and the Devil = the most heinous thing ever (for them). For them, my playing of RPG's has already caused my soul to be forsaken.
It is all a matter of perspective.
hmmm... This is what I have been talking about to my friends. Since when have words become such a horrible thing? Really, is this what the world is coming to. A bunch of pansies who need to shelter everything from children or have to stop using certain words just cause it offends someone else? Get over yourself people. They are just that WORDS! They become something else when used in a different way, than they are no longer words. Kids have to understand that and have to learn when to use them and when not to use them.
Please if you have a problem with it report it. Don't bring your complaints here, no one will care. No one should care. It is your own opinion. Sheesh!
I will agree that Pedophiles and molestation are wrong. But I see no harm in using it as a name for an avatar. Explain how any actual harm can come from this and I'll shut up. But if the only reason why people don't want it on their online games is beacuse they feel that it's wrong when no actual harm is done. Then it seems to me that those feelings just come from a fear of what's different, and that is in my opinion a bigger issue then someones name in a video game.
Because if you think it's ok to let someone use these names as an avatar - your supporting whatever goes through the idiots heads who created the character. Plus why not just use a more sensible/normal name?, is that so hard?
But all these games are about killing some poor creatures, or even people, and robbing them of their loot and even their body parts. And you are worried about how a toon is named?
Frankly, I think naming a toon "Pedophile" is pretty stupid, but there are far worse things in this world to be worried about.
Ha ha! Good point. People are complaining about rude offensive character names in a game where people play the parts of violent mass murderers lol
Yeah, I have dubbed MMO's and RPG's, "Monster Mugger" long ago, because that is what it is. The games are fun, but yeah, monster mugging is core to them all.
Monster Mugger!! Ha ha ha! Thats awesome! Someone should make it. "Phat Loot Farmer" was one of my old favourites too.
Phat Loot Farmer is a good one too. LoL.
Does not suprise me. NC Soft is only capable of complete failure. This game is COMPLETE garbage
I have played a LOT of RPGs and created a LOT of alts in the MMOs I have played.
For EvE or CO, use a first and last name. Haul out a couple of baby name books, the periodic table, an atlas, a list of constellations, etc. 5000*5000=25 MILLION names.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
You obviously have never played Perfect World, Silk Road, Age of Conan, Jade Dynasty, WaR, or even WoW, because I have seen all that and more on those games...
This is not to say that such in Aion is any better, but any game, especially free to play has this problem.
ah. this is a troll thread...
this is just too stupid too talk about.
its just a name. this is an information era. everybody can see everything on the net
You obviously have never played Perfect World, Silk Road, Age of Conan, Jade Dynasty, WaR, or even WoW, because I have seen all that and more on those games...
This is not to say that such in Aion is any better, but any game, especially free to play has this problem.
At least a few of the curent F2P MMOs use name lists. Wizard 101 and Free Realms do, I believe.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
I have played a LOT of RPGs and created a LOT of alts in the MMOs I have played.
For EvE or CO, use a first and last name. Haul out a couple of baby name books, the periodic table, an atlas, a list of constellations, etc. 5000*5000=25 MILLION names.
Second Life uses last names, btw, and has 10 million toons in one virtual space, you'll need to get cracking.
Besides, if you think XLegolasX is bad, I can just see how well Triangulum Austrailus, Antlia Pnuematica, and Canis Major would so preserve the immersion of a game... not. (All constellation names).
Also, your baby names + last name better not mirror the name of real folks, or there could be legal issues.... doh... didn't think of that did you?
You're just trying to score points now.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
I will agree that Pedophiles and molestation are wrong. But I see no harm in using it as a name for an avatar. Explain how any actual harm can come from this and I'll shut up. But if the only reason why people don't want it on their online games is beacuse they feel that it's wrong when no actual harm is done. Then it seems to me that those feelings just come from a fear of what's different, and that is in my opinion a bigger issue then someones name in a video game.
Because if you think it's ok to let someone use these names as an avatar - your supporting whatever goes through the idiots heads who created the character. Plus why not just use a more sensible/normal name?, is that so hard?
....and what is going through the head of the person who created the character? Probably something along the lines of "Ha! This will cause some stuck up person who is overly sensitive to get upset. I will get a response out of them and have an effect on their lives because they will take this really seriously. Who knows maybe they will take it so seriously that they will start complaining about it on a forum. Then that will mean I have had an even bigger impact on more people lives. Hurray! More power to me!"
Congratulations. You and everyone else complaining about this is doing EXACTLY what that "idiot" imagined you would be doing. For an "idiot" he is doing a great job of pulling your strings.
Oh and no its not hard to use a normal name. Its also not hard to type in a rude one either.
Are you the one who created the character?
I will agree that Pedophiles and molestation are wrong. But I see no harm in using it as a name for an avatar. Explain how any actual harm can come from this and I'll shut up. But if the only reason why people don't want it on their online games is beacuse they feel that it's wrong when no actual harm is done. Then it seems to me that those feelings just come from a fear of what's different, and that is in my opinion a bigger issue then someones name in a video game.
Because if you think it's ok to let someone use these names as an avatar - your supporting whatever goes through the idiots heads who created the character. Plus why not just use a more sensible/normal name?, is that so hard?
But all these games are about killing some poor creatures, or even people, and robbing them of their loot and even their body parts. And you are worried about how a toon is named?
Frankly, I think naming a toon "Pedophile" is pretty stupid, but there are far worse things in this world to be worried about.
Ha ha! Good point. People are complaining about rude offensive character names in a game where people play the parts of violent mass murderers lol
Its one thing to play a computer game where your polygon is destroying some other polygons. To bring RL Evil into a game though brings things to a completely new level. It is just plain and simply wrong. If someone is incapable of understanding that then they have a lot of personal issues to deal with. I personally dont think there are far worse things in the world to worry about myself from someone naming their toon pedophile. I think its right there with the very worst things because pedophilia is I believe the absolute worst thing humanity can do and anything that even remotely jokes about it or makes the appearence that its all cool is just wrong. It is much much worse than using racially offensive language as name and thats bad enough.
But the Pedophile toon is polygons too... and slicing beings with swords and shooting them is from RL too..
anyways..
Ok, you find pedophelia the most heinous crime for humanity. Fare enough.
But what about those who find being of another religion the most vile thing ever?
What about being gay?
Or, consider my Jehova Witness relatives who think magic, fantasy and all that is the work of the Devil... and the Devil = the most heinous thing ever (for them). For them, my playing of RPG's has already caused my soul to be forsaken.
It is all a matter of perspective.
What an interresting yet frightening discussion. Its like watching the America presidential elecetion.
Religious Bigots (Republicans) vs Freedom Fanatics (Democrats)
Originally posted by BishopB:
Are a lot of the trolls just angry kids with old gaming hardware?
That's irrelevant. The point is valid. People often DO make up offensive names to get a rise out of the more sensitive.
I saw someone playing a female Witch Hunter in Warhammer with the name 'Moistcooter'. I reported it, not because it was offensive to me, but it certainly would offend some people - as it was no doubt meant to.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
please close this thread. call ur toon whatever u want. the internet is a free place. if u dont like it. dont use it.
IRONY!
If you don't like the thread - don't read it.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
I will agree that Pedophiles and molestation are wrong. But I see no harm in using it as a name for an avatar. Explain how any actual harm can come from this and I'll shut up. But if the only reason why people don't want it on their online games is beacuse they feel that it's wrong when no actual harm is done. Then it seems to me that those feelings just come from a fear of what's different, and that is in my opinion a bigger issue then someones name in a video game.
Because if you think it's ok to let someone use these names as an avatar - your supporting whatever goes through the idiots heads who created the character. Plus why not just use a more sensible/normal name?, is that so hard?
But all these games are about killing some poor creatures, or even people, and robbing them of their loot and even their body parts. And you are worried about how a toon is named?
Frankly, I think naming a toon "Pedophile" is pretty stupid, but there are far worse things in this world to be worried about.
Ha ha! Good point. People are complaining about rude offensive character names in a game where people play the parts of violent mass murderers lol
Its one thing to play a computer game where your polygon is destroying some other polygons. To bring RL Evil into a game though brings things to a completely new level. It is just plain and simply wrong. If someone is incapable of understanding that then they have a lot of personal issues to deal with. I personally dont think there are far worse things in the world to worry about myself from someone naming their toon pedophile. I think its right there with the very worst things because pedophilia is I believe the absolute worst thing humanity can do and anything that even remotely jokes about it or makes the appearence that its all cool is just wrong. It is much much worse than using racially offensive language as name and thats bad enough.
Yeah obviously the actual reality of pedophilia is wrong. Everyone knows that. However although using the name "Pedophile" is extremely bad taste, it is also totally harmless and is a far cry from "bringing real life evil" into a game which promotes the violent slaughter of your enemies as the only means of self improvement. Yeah you're right its only pixels and polygons. So is the word "Paedofile" on your screen. Its not like they are uploading child porn into the game is it.
Oh and using a capitial E for evil in an attempt to add religious significance to the word doesnt add any weight to your argument. Words only have the power you give them so why give that word so much importance? But then thats part of the job of religion......to breed fear into the minds of children and cause them to grow up into fearful and easily manipulated adults.
You're just trying to score points now.
I don't know, naming oneself after constellations in any game, sci-fi or not seems pretty dumb to me. I personally hate it when movie characters are named that. It reeks of no creativity.
I always though that part of the allure of MMO's was my influencing a virtual world through my character. That begins with the name.
Why not just assign a number or code .... hexidecimal would work... no getting offended, all players are on equal footing and no legal issues about "coincidental naming."
On a serious note, I am not making up the RL name issue.
In WoW, in 2006, I made a gnome rogue and named him MickDagger. After two weeks of play, I got a note telling me that the name was not acceptable and I had to change (or the toon would be deleted) because it was too similar to the rock star Mick Jagger.
All I can say after just reading the first page is OMG!!!!!!!!!! Yes they're just words but the acts that are represented are illegal!!! You think its fine to molest a 10 year old? If you do you have SEVERE problems and shouldnt be allowed near ANY under 18s. No, saying the word is ok, isnt the same thing as saying being a pedophile is, but its not damn far off the mark. I fully agree with the OP and if it hasnt already been, it should be reported to NCSOFT *immediately* I know they wont stand for that crap and will address it, unfortunately however you get the kids thinking its cool and if its not nipped fast enough, one goes another will pop up. I have experience with whats tollerated and whats not and I know the act, is a deal with it situatuion, no questions asked and illegal discussions, which the name prompts is also a matter that gets addressed.
So shut up with your damn cotton wool accusations and take a long hard think about what is right and wrong and if you can honestly tell me its ok to, say, rape an 8 yr old and the law agrees with you, I'll shut up...... If you believe this is ok however, you need a SERIOUS attitude adjustment......... dont spose they'll introduce shock therapy to deal with these morons?
I will agree that Pedophiles and molestation are wrong. But I see no harm in using it as a name for an avatar. Explain how any actual harm can come from this and I'll shut up. But if the only reason why people don't want it on their online games is beacuse they feel that it's wrong when no actual harm is done. Then it seems to me that those feelings just come from a fear of what's different, and that is in my opinion a bigger issue then someones name in a video game.
Because if you think it's ok to let someone use these names as an avatar - your supporting whatever goes through the idiots heads who created the character. Plus why not just use a more sensible/normal name?, is that so hard?
But all these games are about killing some poor creatures, or even people, and robbing them of their loot and even their body parts. And you are worried about how a toon is named?
Frankly, I think naming a toon "Pedophile" is pretty stupid, but there are far worse things in this world to be worried about.
Ha ha! Good point. People are complaining about rude offensive character names in a game where people play the parts of violent mass murderers lol
Its one thing to play a computer game where your polygon is destroying some other polygons. To bring RL Evil into a game though brings things to a completely new level. It is just plain and simply wrong. If someone is incapable of understanding that then they have a lot of personal issues to deal with. I personally dont think there are far worse things in the world to worry about myself from someone naming their toon pedophile. I think its right there with the very worst things because pedophilia is I believe the absolute worst thing humanity can do and anything that even remotely jokes about it or makes the appearence that its all cool is just wrong. It is much much worse than using racially offensive language as name and thats bad enough.
But the Pedophile toon is polygons too... and slicing beings with swords and shooting them is from RL too..
anyways..
Ok, you find pedophelia the most heinous crime for humanity. Fare enough.
But what about those who find being of another religion the most vile thing ever?
What about being gay?
Or, consider my Jehova Witness relatives who think magic, fantasy and all that is the work of the Devil... and the Devil = the most heinous thing ever (for them). For them, my playing of RPG's has already caused my soul to be forsaken.
It is all a matter of perspective.
What an interresting yet frightening discussion. Its like watching the America presidential elecetion.
Religious Bigots (Republicans) vs Freedom Fanatics (Democrats)
Hehe.... so which one are you?
Ok - what happens if a person playing Aion who has been molested in real life see's a character with this name. It's not going to effect them that much granted, however it is going to offend and maybe even upset them.
Now remember this person is just paying to play a game they enjoy - so who is in the wrong here?
If anyone says that it's the person who has been molested problem or they should get over it, then I give up - you must be right.
Btw: in regards to "it's just a word". The point of words is for meaning and communication, without meaning a word is nothing, but every word will always have meaning attached to it as it is the point of the word. Words and meanings go hand in hand, thats the whole point of language.
I will agree that Pedophiles and molestation are wrong. But I see no harm in using it as a name for an avatar. Explain how any actual harm can come from this and I'll shut up. But if the only reason why people don't want it on their online games is beacuse they feel that it's wrong when no actual harm is done. Then it seems to me that those feelings just come from a fear of what's different, and that is in my opinion a bigger issue then someones name in a video game.
Because if you think it's ok to let someone use these names as an avatar - your supporting whatever goes through the idiots heads who created the character. Plus why not just use a more sensible/normal name?, is that so hard?
....and what is going through the head of the person who created the character? Probably something along the lines of "Ha! This will cause some stuck up person who is overly sensitive to get upset. I will get a response out of them and have an effect on their lives because they will take this really seriously. Who knows maybe they will take it so seriously that they will start complaining about it on a forum. Then that will mean I have had an even bigger impact on more people lives. Hurray! More power to me!"
Congratulations. You and everyone else complaining about this is doing EXACTLY what that "idiot" imagined you would be doing. For an "idiot" he is doing a great job of pulling your strings.
Oh and no its not hard to use a normal name. Its also not hard to type in a rude one either.
Are you the one who created the character?
Yes I am but......shhhhh.......dont tell anyone. I dont want my mum finding out and banning me from playing computer games.
WoW doesn't delete characters violating the naming conventions - they rename them.
If you had named your character Michealdagger, you might have been just fine. They won't fault you for picking just any schlub's name. It's 'famous' names that are verbotten.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Don't shush me, Ill tell who I pleasy. No games for you anymore....
Would you act this way in real life? Walk down the street and say Hi i'm pedophile? Would you do this around your parents? Your boss? You know what would happen...
This thread is FULL of cowards that hide behind being anonymous on the internet. Cowards.
How do you think a person that was abused as a child would feel sseing those names... What a bunch of loosers and sickos...
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