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If they make It heavy solo gameplay and solo centric

I personally don't mind soloing every now and then, and occasionally having some time to myself.



But I personally think what makes this genre really fun is playing with other gamers.



I personally feel as though if they make It solo centered I might as well be playing a Single Player Final Fantasy. And playing that way like It's almost a single player game is no fun for me personally.



It's going to suck for me If they make It a heavy heavy solo centric game.



Am I alone here? Does everyone want a more single player experience in their MMORPG'S?



It saddens me a little that this might happen.

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  • svannsvann Member RarePosts: 2,230
    Originally posted by GlowingMoon


    I personally don't mind soloing every now and then, and occasionally having some time to myself.



    But I personally think what makes this genre really fun is playing with other gamers.



    I personally feel as though if they make It solo centered I might as well be playing a Single Player Final Fantasy. And playing that way like It's almost a single player game is no fun for me personally.



    It's going to suck for me If they make It a heavy heavy solo centric game.



    Am I alone here? Does everyone want a more single player experience in their MMORPG'S?



    It saddens me a little that this might happen.



     

    What makes you think this might happen?  I havent seen the slightest hint that that is what they are planning.  The best information is that it is more solo friendly than ff11, which implies to me that it will still be much like ff11 but just not as extremely group required.  Some soloing allowed. 

  • a1csimsa1csims Member UncommonPosts: 24

    I hope its group based play like ffxi, but it would be nice to have something to do solo while LFG.

  • Kai082Kai082 Member Posts: 35

    They haven't only emphasized solo play. The devs have stated that the issue of waiting hours for a party has been addressed. This is in part to the way you can take on skills based on equipment. Remember, they will be introducing some of the top tier mob classes from FFXI, and those weren't solo friendly. So, if you are worried about the game shifting to solo play, those rumors aren't true.

  • swalker23swalker23 Member Posts: 266
    Originally posted by a1csims


    I hope its group based play like ffxi, but it would be nice to have something to do solo while LFG.

     

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  • CDCostaCDCosta Member Posts: 90
    Originally posted by swalker23

    Originally posted by a1csims


    I hope its group based play like ffxi, but it would be nice to have something to do solo while LFG.

     



     

     also

    Don't worry yourself. It won't be solo centric.

  • GlowingMoonGlowingMoon Member Posts: 44
    Originally posted by CDCosta

    Originally posted by swalker23

    Originally posted by a1csims


    I hope its group based play like ffxi, but it would be nice to have something to do solo while LFG.

     



     

     also

    Don't worry yourself. It won't be solo centric.

     

    Well I hope not. But you never know. Didn't they say World of Warcraft influenced the way they designed XIV?



    I would like to be optimistic about It myself.



    Expect the worst, hope for the best.

  • KorhindiKorhindi Member CommonPosts: 395

    I think they have realized that Solo play = subs, and that forced grouping drives away potential customers.

    Sure, some of the diehards on this site will say, "No forced grouping means I am gone," but these folks are so rare as to not even show up on the financial radar.

    The other thing to remember was Final Fantasy was first and foremost a Single Player RPG series.

    FFXI went group centric and did not get the numbers the execs in Japan had hoped for the premier fantasy computer RPG franchise; whereas the solo friendly WoW blew all away.

    So, my guess will be that FF XIV will be solo friendly with lots of group based options.  In fact, I seem to recall Sqenix saying they are working and many fun and different options to encourage grouping, so all is not doom and gloom for you old holdouts.

  • svannsvann Member RarePosts: 2,230
    Originally posted by GlowingMoon

    Originally posted by CDCosta

    Originally posted by swalker23

    Originally posted by a1csims


    I hope its group based play like ffxi, but it would be nice to have something to do solo while LFG.

     



     

     also

    Don't worry yourself. It won't be solo centric.

     

    Well I hope not. But you never know. Didn't they say World of Warcraft influenced the way they designed XIV?

     



     

    No, I dont think they said that.

  • terrifiedterrified Member Posts: 143
    Originally posted by swalker23

    Originally posted by a1csims


    I hope its group based play like ffxi, but it would be nice to have something to do solo while LFG.

     

     

    i strongly agree as well. Whats the point of a Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game when all you do is solo 90% of the time as you do in most of the current generation of mmo's though we would need something to do while we find groups as we also shoudlnt have to spend countless hours doing nothing but look for group at the same time hehe

  • skoreanimeskoreanime Member Posts: 219
    Originally posted by a1csims


    I hope its group based play like ffxi, but it would be nice to have something to do solo while LFG.

     

    QFT.

     

    And the way they emphasized grouping in the interviews, seems like this will be the case.  They always get so heated and intense when talking about grouping, and then just sound mundane and short when talking about solo play.

  • KhrymsonKhrymson Member UncommonPosts: 3,090

    Well, hopefully if everything goes right, this will be worldwide servers just like FFXI.  In that case you have to deal with what the world wants and not just the whiney US players that want solo everything.  This will more than likely have solo elements, but still be group based for any major bosses or events.

     

    I suspect that the majority of solo play will come from the Guild Leves, and the world will largely remain dangerous to travel, and I so hope that a similar aggro system is in place instead of just proximity like every other MMO.  Keep the sight, sound, smell, low HP, casting magic, etc etc etc aggro system, and most of all don't tie the mobs to invisible rubberbands.  I want to be chased and have the sense of fear trying to get away if I need to run or get aggro.

    ....and lastly, more than anything else.......must have loss of XP and possible level upon death!  Screw the XP debt, or no loss, and mass repair bills.

     

    Oh one more thing, do not adapt to the BoE, BoP...BS  let me continue to trade my gear to friends and LS mates, or resell old gear to other players...etc

  • ic0n67ic0n67 Member Posts: 776
    Originally posted by CDCosta

    Originally posted by swalker23

    Originally posted by a1csims


    I hope its group based play like ffxi, but it would be nice to have something to do solo while LFG.

     



     

     also

    Don't worry yourself. It won't be solo centric.

     

    oh shit ... lets keep the train going ...

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057

    cats and dogs sleeping together, it will truly be the end days.

    Or not.

    Odds are long against it being a solo centric game, and it would be a shame if one of the last great hopes of the grouping franchises takes the easy road out.

     

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    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • GlowingMoonGlowingMoon Member Posts: 44
    Originally posted by svann

    Originally posted by GlowingMoon

    Originally posted by CDCosta

    Originally posted by swalker23

    Originally posted by a1csims


    I hope its group based play like ffxi, but it would be nice to have something to do solo while LFG.

     



     

     also

    Don't worry yourself. It won't be solo centric.

     

    Well I hope not. But you never know. Didn't they say World of Warcraft influenced the way they designed XIV?

     



     

    No, I dont think they said that.



    There's quite a few websites that have them quoted saying that though.

  • SwampRobSwampRob Member UncommonPosts: 1,003

    I've no desire to change the game as it is, because clearly many people enjoy it.

    However, for myself, making it a heavy solo game is the only way I'd consider even downloading the trial.

    I like grouping, but a oh-so-loathe the downtime of getting everyone ready and to the mission start point.    Raiding is even worse.

    Soloing, I play at the exact speed I enjoy, take breaks when i want to, and get all the loot.     Please continue to enjoy your style of play and I'll enjoy mine.

     

    Happy gaming.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    Originally posted by SwampRob


    I've no desire to change the game as it is, because clearly many people enjoy it.
    However, for myself, making it a heavy solo game is the only way I'd consider even downloading the trial.
    I like grouping, but a oh-so-loathe the downtime of getting everyone ready and to the mission start point.    Raiding is even worse.
    Soloing, I play at the exact speed I enjoy, take breaks when i want to, and get all the loot.     Please continue to enjoy your style of play and I'll enjoy mine.
     
    Happy gaming.

     

    So its all about you eh? Unsurprising in these days, your attitude is more and more typical.

    Ah well, hopefully FFXIV will remain one of the last bastions for those who look forward to working as a team.

     

    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • SwampRobSwampRob Member UncommonPosts: 1,003
    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Originally posted by SwampRob


    I've no desire to change the game as it is, because clearly many people enjoy it.
    However, for myself, making it a heavy solo game is the only way I'd consider even downloading the trial.
    I like grouping, but a oh-so-loathe the downtime of getting everyone ready and to the mission start point.    Raiding is even worse.
    Soloing, I play at the exact speed I enjoy, take breaks when i want to, and get all the loot.     Please continue to enjoy your style of play and I'll enjoy mine.
     
    Happy gaming.

     

    So its all about you eh? Unsurprising in these days, your attitude is more and more typical.

    Ah well, hopefully FFXIV will remain one of the last bastions for those who look forward to working as a team.

     

    It's all about me????????

    Please reread the first line of my post.

  • svannsvann Member RarePosts: 2,230
    Originally posted by GlowingMoon

    Originally posted by svann

    Originally posted by GlowingMoon

    Originally posted by CDCosta

    Originally posted by swalker23

    Originally posted by a1csims


    I hope its group based play like ffxi, but it would be nice to have something to do solo while LFG.

     



     

     also

    Don't worry yourself. It won't be solo centric.

     

    Well I hope not. But you never know. Didn't they say World of Warcraft influenced the way they designed XIV?

     



     

    No, I dont think they said that.



    There's quite a few websites that have them quoted saying that though.



     

    Then link one reliable site with the quote from a reliable source.  I dont think there is one.

  • GlowingMoonGlowingMoon Member Posts: 44
    Originally posted by svann

    Originally posted by GlowingMoon

    Originally posted by svann

    Originally posted by GlowingMoon

    Originally posted by CDCosta

    Originally posted by swalker23

    Originally posted by a1csims


    I hope its group based play like ffxi, but it would be nice to have something to do solo while LFG.

     



     

     also

    Don't worry yourself. It won't be solo centric.

     

    Well I hope not. But you never know. Didn't they say World of Warcraft influenced the way they designed XIV?

     



     

    No, I dont think they said that.



    There's quite a few websites that have them quoted saying that though.



     

    Then link one reliable site with the quote from a reliable source.  I dont think there is one.

     

    ''Q. What kind of influences from other MMOG's like World of Warcraft, have there been on Final Fantasy XIV?

    Hashimoto says:

    "As with WoW, they're aimed at the casual user. We're aiming for the more casual users. However, we don't want to make a copy of WoW. We want to be unique." ''



    Source : www.thefinalfantasy14.com/ff14/e3-press-conference-q-and-a/





     

  • elderotterelderotter Member Posts: 651

    wow, yet another groupers vs solo player thread.  This fight has about a dozen threads already.  I hope they do not ruin the game for you groupers - since the FF mmos are your heaven.  Having said that - the dev's are going to set it up so that they make MONEY,  recently that means more solo content.  To us it is a game, to them a living... expect them to follow the money.

  • terrifiedterrified Member Posts: 143
    Originally posted by SwampRob

    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Originally posted by SwampRob


    I've no desire to change the game as it is, because clearly many people enjoy it.
    However, for myself, making it a heavy solo game is the only way I'd consider even downloading the trial.
    I like grouping, but a oh-so-loathe the downtime of getting everyone ready and to the mission start point.    Raiding is even worse.
    Soloing, I play at the exact speed I enjoy, take breaks when i want to, and get all the loot.     Please continue to enjoy your style of play and I'll enjoy mine.
     
    Happy gaming.

     

    So its all about you eh? Unsurprising in these days, your attitude is more and more typical.

    Ah well, hopefully FFXIV will remain one of the last bastions for those who look forward to working as a team.

     

    It's all about me????????

    Please reread the first line of my post.

    really so dispite being Massively Multiplayer Online games we should ONLY solo? lol your just a selfish bastard that has no business whatsoever playing a mmo :P if you cant handle multiplayer then dont play online games period lol why are you even here talking about a massive multiplayer game in the first place your selfish, ignorant, and downright stupid if you cant understand the incredibly simple concept of a Massively Multiplayer Online Game which clearly you cant with your utter refusal to play mmo's that are actually multiplayer :P

  • GlowingMoonGlowingMoon Member Posts: 44
    Originally posted by elderotter


    wow, yet another groupers vs solo player thread.  This fight has about a dozen threads already.  I hope they do not ruin the game for you groupers - since the FF mmos are your heaven.  Having said that - the dev's are going to set it up so that they make MONEY,  recently that means more solo content.  To us it is a game, to them a living... expect them to follow the money.

     

    What? This is by no means a grouper vs solo thread. Wow, way to make up lies about what I said.



    This thread is more about whether they are making XIV into a solo centric game or group game and what peoples thoughts are in relation to those.

  • flguy147flguy147 Member UncommonPosts: 507

    its a multiplayer game not a grouping game.  only thing mmo means is many people playing an online game.  i want to be able to log off when the hell i feel like it without people in my group yelling at me because i have real life responsibilities to take care.  most normal people have things like a job/career, maybe a family or kids, friends or a girlfriend and a social life, so they may only be able to log on for an hour at a time.  sorry but i dont want to spend 45 minutes of my hour looking for a group cause there isnt solo content.   yes i love to group with people but i absolutely hate feeling like i am committed to staying online because i am in a group trying to finish content.  every single mmo you can group with people so i dont see what the problem is.  its people's choice to group or not to group, you dont have to be in a raid to group.  its your choice to group not the developers. 

  • ic0n67ic0n67 Member Posts: 776
    Originally posted by GlowingMoon

    Originally posted by svann

    Originally posted by GlowingMoon

    Originally posted by svann

    Originally posted by GlowingMoon

    Originally posted by CDCosta

    Originally posted by swalker23

    Originally posted by a1csims


    I hope its group based play like ffxi, but it would be nice to have something to do solo while LFG.

     



     

     also

    Don't worry yourself. It won't be solo centric.

     

    Well I hope not. But you never know. Didn't they say World of Warcraft influenced the way they designed XIV?

     



     

    No, I dont think they said that.



    There's quite a few websites that have them quoted saying that though.



     

    Then link one reliable site with the quote from a reliable source.  I dont think there is one.

     

    ''Q. What kind of influences from other MMOG's like World of Warcraft, have there been on Final Fantasy XIV?

    Hashimoto says:

    "As with WoW, they're aimed at the casual user. We're aiming for the more casual users. However, we don't want to make a copy of WoW. We want to be unique." ''



    Source : www.thefinalfantasy14.com/ff14/e3-press-conference-q-and-a/





     

     

    You two are going to be arguing apples and oranges on this one til the game is released.

    I'm sure FFXIV will be influenced by WoW just like WoW and FFXI were influenced EQ which was influenced by D&D (and oddly enough 4.0 being influenced by the MMOs that it spawned) which was influenced by Tolkien which was influenced by ... God knows what ... i'd assume a hookah bar.

    Nothing is entirely new. You find a business model that works adapt and model it to your liking and out pops something new. Is it going to be a copy of WoW, no (most things that are a "wow clone" are not even a copy of wow but the ignorance of the user base is freaking astounding).

    Either way chill, don't get yourself overhyped, and enjoy the game when it comes out. In the mean time visit a hookah bar.

    ....

    PS: The hookah is the thing he is smoking ...

     

  • SwampRobSwampRob Member UncommonPosts: 1,003
    Originally posted by terrified

    Originally posted by SwampRob

    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Originally posted by SwampRob


    I've no desire to change the game as it is, because clearly many people enjoy it.
    However, for myself, making it a heavy solo game is the only way I'd consider even downloading the trial.
    I like grouping, but a oh-so-loathe the downtime of getting everyone ready and to the mission start point.    Raiding is even worse.
    Soloing, I play at the exact speed I enjoy, take breaks when i want to, and get all the loot.     Please continue to enjoy your style of play and I'll enjoy mine.
     
    Happy gaming.

     

    So its all about you eh? Unsurprising in these days, your attitude is more and more typical.

    Ah well, hopefully FFXIV will remain one of the last bastions for those who look forward to working as a team.

     

    It's all about me????????

    Please reread the first line of my post.

    really so dispite being Massively Multiplayer Online games we should ONLY solo? lol your just a selfish bastard that has no business whatsoever playing a mmo :P if you cant handle multiplayer then dont play online games period lol why are you even here talking about a massive multiplayer game in the first place your selfish, ignorant, and downright stupid if you cant understand the incredibly simple concept of a Massively Multiplayer Online Game which clearly you cant with your utter refusal to play mmo's that are actually multiplayer :P

    Dude, take a chill pill.   I'm making no argument on grouping vs soloing games other than to say that soloing is my preference.   There are lots of players who feel that way, and lots who prefer grouping.

    To each his own, live and let live and all that jazz.

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