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The Rising Problem of Macroing
Serien
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I hadn't thought much of it until I got one in my group, and that one brought another one. Two boxing macros.
Obviously immideatly after I found out, I booted them from the group, but the damage had been done. Macro's are becoming more and more available, and the unethicality of some players leads them to using macros.
I don't understand this. If you don't have time to play, WHY PAY? Don't play. Please, do not RUIN the game for the rest of us like you "macro-whores" are doing. It's getting out of hand, and it needs to stop.
More and more newbie players use macros everyday because "eqii is too hard" I'm not complaining. And if you were anywhere near a gamer, you would not complain. Play the damn game the way the game is supposed to be played.
I'm sick of it!
And stop advertising on these boards
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What are "Boxing Macros"?
On a similar note, I want to create a macro to say "HO is 3 Seconds" pause for three seconds then activate my HO, is this possible/legal?
Yes, they are two different things. What you want to do is possible within the mechanics of the game. What the other poster speaks of is using a third party software to play the game for you. For instance, if you had a fighter character on one account and a priest character on a second account and grouped them. You made the priest /follow the fighter and target him. Then you started a third party macro on the computer running the priest character which checked the pixel color of your fighters health bar in the group window and when it was no longer green, you had the macro "push" the #1 hotkey which has your heal in it.. You then, effectively don't need to even pay attention to the priest character because he's on "automation mode" and can focus on playing your fighter character with no fear of dying cause you will always get healed.
Hope this explains it better.
Its a good idea. Macros make these treadmill games easier.
Ah I get it now.
Is there a site or a guide that tells you how to macro (legally)? How do I figure out what all the commands are. I tried using the SWG commands but they don't work. /pause was an invalid command.
Why do alot of companies include this funtion in there games anyway? I dont realy see that there is much legitamate use for something like this.
it's not a function that the developer provides, it's an unethical thing that people who shouldn't be playing the game anyway create.
The other guy is talking about a different type of macros, there is a BIG difference. The macroing I'm talking about are for ignorant stupid dumbasses who want to ruin the game for the rest of us.
and to make a macro that says something like "HO in 3 seconds..." you click the eqii button, click the thing that has emotes..(not sure what it's called) and then the second tab. =Completely different from the other type.
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its exactly what they did in Lineage 2. they use a program that is made by a third party which will run the game for you if you run it at the same time as EQ2, its nothing like the macro system which they provide for you in game, which only helps you do certain things like a chain of attacks with one button, or a hotkey to say something to the group when you heal/or buff... the third party program is illegal (game rules) and they can be caught and should be banned. hopefully SOE can find a solution to it. personally, i would never do this, it would defeat the purpose of even playing the game.
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While i've never macro'd before. The ones that do it never bothered me. I really could care less if they do or do not macro. They pay the same 15 bucks a month I do. As long as their macro'ing doesn't involve griefing others. What is it honestly hurting?
To the one guy that said they should ban macro'ers. All I can say is not going to happen. Companies are in it for the money. There are 3 sides to the game. Those that hate macros, those that don't care, and those that do macro. If you had a population of 2/3's that didn't care, or was already macro'ing. Would you back the 1/3 that did? Knowing that while most of those 1/3 hate macro'ing. Most of that 1/3 would still pay regardless. It's a numbers game. The folks overly pissed about others macro'ing would be considered 'acceptable losses'.
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There's no real "official guide", but you could check out this post on the Official EQ2 Forums. It's pretty detailed with information regarding this.
LOL-> At for Warcriminals response
The macro thing doesn't bother me either, but I can see why it bothers people. People are, by nature, competetive. I think they see it as, why should someone who isn't doing any work be a higher level than me, who's been at the keyboard actually playing this whole time.
It's the same way with buying gold on ebay. I'd never do it real money has much more value to me than virtual money, but if other people want to it's not going to ruin my day.
Dorrent,
Thanks for the link, it helped a lot.
There's no real "official guide", but you could check out this post on the Official EQ2 Forums. It's pretty detailed with information regarding this.
LOL-> At for Warcriminals response
that's not the type of macroing we're talking about though. That's the good type, we're talking about the bad type...
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Dont bother about that one bit really, it can only do so if I let it.
And as I see it it is their LOSS, not gain, cause they miss out on all the goodies.
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Originally posted by Jerek_
I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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Yes I know, but in my other post I was refering to people who macro "ilegally". They don't bother me, but I can see why others are upset
Seeing as no-one bothers reading EULA here is extract from EQ2
9. You may not use any software to modify the Software to change Game play. You may not create, facilitate, host, link to or provide any other means through which the Game may be played by others, such as through server emulators. You may not decrypt or modify any data transmitted between client and server and you may not use, post, host or distribute macros, bots or other programs which would allow unattended game play or which otherwise impact game play. You may not take any action which imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on our infrastructure. You may not buy, sell or auction (or host or facilitate the ability to allow others to buy, sell or auction) any Game account, characters, items, coin or copyrighted material or any other intellectual property owned or controlled by us or our licensors without first obtaining our express written permission.
The trouble with allowing macroing is that it changes game balance. In PvP those with a priest Bot will thrash those without, and in PvE the E may be boosted to better match the macroers who complain everything is too easy.
If the game wasn;t such a treadmill grind, people would play rather than using macros.
Macros are a great way to get back at the developers who make these boring ass games.
ahhh welcome back Hodge! Good to hear you upbeat words again. I'm sure you haven't been on here lately as you've probably been enjoying the world of Eq2......at your friends house maybe. Then you come home and reralize what a crappy computer you have and you get all worked up. I understand. You're here to express your jealousy. It's perfectly normal.
The law also says you can't speed, but we see how many people that follow that law too. Do you hate all the people that speed too? What about the people that Jay-Walk?
My point is, I don't care if someone breaks the rules as long as it doesn't infringe on anyone else's fun. If they want to play the game while AFK let them I say. I mean SOE (and it is SOE not SoE, as in Sony Online Entertainment, not Sony of Entertainment) has basically made you sell AFK since you're locked in your room. This proves they obviously don't mind the AFK player that much.
All macro-whores should be banned, banned forever... Their names should be banned, their credit cards numbers should be banned and also posted at SOE's website for us to use them when we want to buy something over internet {i know it would be illegal
}. But SOE should fight them as hard as posible, plus they have to do something with selling virtual coins over ebay etc, this is destroying the MMOs, unders6tand it, the game is not a job, you play it ejnoy the game; don't corrupt it for fair players please. If you cannot play the game because you don't have the balls to withstand the problem and you want everything now plus you have your daddy's wallet, leave it, and do it as soon as posible, please.
The trouble with allowing macroing is that it changes game balance. In PvP those with a priest Bot will thrash those without, and in PvE the E may be boosted to better match the macroers who complain everything is too easy.
seeing as how you do not own the account, characters, or anything on them. they are the sole property of SOE. its basically like renting an apartment, it is thier property and they can kick you out, and give you as many rules as they want. so i dont see it as "ambiguous.
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