I just hit level 45 today as cleric, lol yes level 40-45 is HARD CORE GRIND. And because i am hardcore enough it takes 450 hours of 12 hours grind to get to where i am level 45. From level 45-50 its even harder core then 40-45. it takes about 370 hours of gameplay im assuming. level 40-50 is where you can seperate between the man and boy. its the most hardcore of them all. If you survived past level 30 you can probably get to max cap but those who are asking is the grinding at level 40-50 harder? the answer is yes its extremely hardcore harder even heavily grinding you'll ever seen. levels 40-50 is what seperates us from man to boy. The questions remains " Are you man enough to grind to level 50?" lol.
I was hoping for better news, getting to cap is very anti-climatic. I was hoping the few at 50 were the exception to the rule and that most would never attain such heights.
The real question is, what the hell do you do at 50 that you dont already do levels 30-40?
Fortress seiges? Because i do that now at 30, and they are so crowded and laggy its unplayable. I mean they arnt on an instance and an unlimited amount of players can join....and that lag extends thoughout the whole server (in case you werent participating in the fort seige). Its not a little lag, its insane amounts of lag and constant disconnects. Rubberband while flying is my fav. I have no past history of unwarrented mmorpg lag either. Mabey they thought that 300 people seiging on the same instance as everyone else wouldnt create lag?
So wer are all worried about how long it take to grind to 50,w hen the real question is, whats so special about 50, other than being able to gank noobs?
The real question is, what the hell do you do at 50 that you dont already do levels 30-40? Fortress seiges? Because i do that now at 30, and they are so crowded and laggy its unplayable. I mean they arnt on an instance and an unlimited amount of players can join....and that lag extends thoughout the whole server (in case you werent participating in the fort seige). Its not a little lag, its insane amounts of lag and constant disconnects. Rubberband while flying is my fav. I have no past history of unwarrented mmorpg lag either. Mabey they thought that 300 people seiging on the same instance as everyone else wouldnt create lag? So wer are all worried about how long it take to grind to 50,w hen the real question is, whats so special about 50, other than being able to gank noobs?
As per seiges causing lag - anyone who ever played early Shadowbane could tell you about that. I guess the devs didn't bother to study games that had issues with that.
Not sure if both sides hve these or if there is a split
So by that link shows there are dungeons that help you level dunno if the OP used them but he didn't mention them so thanks for pointing them out sovrath
Yes, there are dungeons. But everything after Nochsana gives pathetic xp compared to just grinding. Also the bosses don't even drop anything half of the times you kill them
I think that the OP was making a joke about the man enough part if u notice the "lol" part. Stalwart emotions is actually one of the things that separates men from boys. So if him saying using that upset u then u may want to do a gut check. If u only see what u want to see and not the reality of a situation then thats childish. An example would be a child wanting every toy he/she sees and the parents telling them that they cant afford it. A man knows that undisciplined spending is not wise. A boy on the other hand will see the the denial of the toys with spite instead of knowing that his parents are looking out for his overall well being by buying food with the money instead of toys. Anyways i play MMO's for the reason that they take a long time. If i only have to pay 15 dollars a month as compared to 60 on a new game each month, im going with the MMO. MMO's are community games where people who all like submerging themselves in a reality world for a little while. If getting to max level and then being bored is your thing then do it but stop complaining about it. I'm sure people who group do not have as much of a hard time as u do. I dont mind grinding games. I almost forgot about grinds while playing W.O.W because it wasnt one in W.O.W but i stil enjoyed the game tho and appreciate Blizzard for the fun times. The more i read about the grind in Aion the more i cant wait to get home for R&R. With the grind i know i will be busy for a looong time.
While his claim that any kind of grind separates the good players from the bad is ridiculous, the mad rush to the end game is an unfortunate byproduct of WoW. A great deal of people new in the genre are now infused with the idea that "the game starts at the end game", which leads them to burn themselves out in a mad rush towards there, ignoring the journey in the process.
It is true though, that if all you do is checking your exp bar, you're not having fun. Which reminds me of those addons in WoW that were calculating how many mobs of a certain kind you needed to kill to level. When people do that in Aion, it's probably a good time to look elsewhere for your fun, either in another MMO or in another genre.
It really was an extremely stupid decision to raise level cap to 50 from 45. I would like to hear ONE good reason from the makers for that decision, only ONE!
...
other than the possibility of them getting more money since people needs more game time to reach the level cap. Only now massive amounts of people will leave beacause they get bored trying to get there in the first place
$OE lies list http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0 " And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
I just hit level 45 today as cleric, lol yes level 40-45 is HARD CORE GRIND. And because i am hardcore enough it takes 450 hours of 12 hours grind to get to where i am level 45. From level 45-50 its even harder core then 40-45. it takes about 370 hours of gameplay im assuming. level 40-50 is where you can seperate between the man and boy. its the most hardcore of them all. If you survived past level 30 you can probably get to max cap but those who are asking is the grinding at level 40-50 harder? the answer is yes its extremely hardcore harder even heavily grinding you'll ever seen. levels 40-50 is what seperates us from man to boy. The questions remains " Are you man enough to grind to level 50?" lol.
>>> "levels 40-50 is what seperates us from man to boy."
Answer: i think it seperates Lifeless from living people, if someone has so much time for leveling a virtual char from 1 to 50 then something is wrong with his brain. its not hardcore btw, its plain stupid and somehow i feel a bit sorry for people like you. they are addicted but they think they are Hardcore, how sad..
I just hit level 45 today as cleric, lol yes level 40-45 is HARD CORE GRIND. And because i am hardcore enough it takes 450 hours of 12 hours grind to get to where i am level 45. From level 45-50 its even harder core then 40-45. it takes about 370 hours of gameplay im assuming. level 40-50 is where you can seperate between the man and boy. its the most hardcore of them all. If you survived past level 30 you can probably get to max cap but those who are asking is the grinding at level 40-50 harder? the answer is yes its extremely hardcore harder even heavily grinding you'll ever seen. levels 40-50 is what seperates us from man to boy. The questions remains " Are you man enough to grind to level 50?" lol.
>>> "levels 40-50 is what seperates us from man to boy."
Answer: i think it seperates Lifeless from living people, if someone has so much time for leveling a virtual char from 1 to 50 then something is wrong with his brain. its not hardcore btw, its plain stupid and somehow i feel a bit sorry for people like you. they are addicted but they think they are Hardcore, how sad..
Honestly, Portland that was just plain rude. For someone to take the dedication and strength to get that far, that is something. For you to sit here a post on a forum how they have no life.. that indicates all you do is sit around and read forums for endless hours while trying to think of what to do with your life. Accept the people who love to play games just as others accept you for.. well whatever you are.
This is a MMORPG forum. Respect what people do and how much they achieve. In life or in a game, it's still something.
Honestly, there only a few LEGIT people who are level 50 already. And my guess is that 90% of those would be rangers and sorcerors, who can solo elites and get 300k exp. Although, they do have to kite the elite mob for 5 minutes lol.
Or, its 2 or 3 people taking turns playing on the same character, which I've heard a few people doing. Which is fine, I really dont see any problems with that.
However, what I do have a problem with are the bots. Whoever said that they see just as many bots as they do in other games, I say BS to you! There are so many in Aion that it's ridiculous, to the point of being laughable. I've been in areas of the game with 10 people close to me, and i was the only one actually playing. That's how bad the bots are.
For the last few days before I stopped playing, I just got the bots killed. Since most of them are gladiators I would just kite 2 mobs near them, wait for him to use an AoE, then mobs catch the aggro from them and get the bot get killed. And when that wasn't fun anymore, I quit.
Sitting on your ass staring at the computer screen for 12 hours a day mashing buttons in a repetitive order for months on end is associated with manliness?
Sitting on your ass staring at the computer screen for 12 hours a day mashing buttons in a repetitive order for months on end is associated with manliness? Oh gods.
Sitting on your ass staring at the computer screen for 12 hours a day mashing buttons in a repetitive order for months on end is associated with manliness? Oh gods.
In a certain kind of world it is. It might not be so among the GIs or firefighters, but among MMO players it certainly is.
You don't have to be a part of MMO community, yet you choose to be (since you're reading and posting to MMORPG forums, it's safe to presume so) and ridicule the ways of the community.
Sitting on your ass staring at the computer screen for 12 hours a day mashing buttons in a repetitive order for months on end is associated with manliness? Oh gods.
In a certain kind of world it is. It might not be so among the GIs or firefighters, but among MMO players it certainly is.
You don't have to be a part of MMO community, yet you choose to be (since you're reading and posting to MMORPG forums, it's safe to presume so) and ridicule the ways of the community.
Oh gods.
I like MMOs alot, I just think 12 hour days are serious addiction. If you play *that* much and consider it normal...it's not. It's beyond unhealthy.
no man.... Since I got to work and feed my family, pay my bills, house, car, electricity, gas, food, taxes.... walk my dog and other shit etcs, I'm just a boy cause can't fkg play ALL day and become a man. I'm so envy ((
The Grind in this game is very easy compare to others games.
You mean Easily Comparable. And yes, to other Korean MMOS, where its a major grindfest with barely any quests 40+ and you get EXP nerfed if someone is more then 2 levels above you 35+ and that you get EXP nerfed for grouping in general. Better to clarify yourself instead of being so generic.
Yes im a little burned out Thiw week im off aion due to exams in the university.
You think its easy to grind in aion???? Try getting to level 40 or better yet if you got enough patience like me you shoudl try getting to level 43. Easy grinding huh? I woudl like your view when you hit those levels around 40's.
I have to grind 900,000 ab for the best abyss gears and some medals. But abyss is going to take awhile.
If your not already level 40's now i suggest you prepare for a long ass grind of your life getting to level 45. Everything gives crap exp EVERYTHING. They purposely make your grinding life miserable by introducing the hell grind from 40 to 45. I think ncsoft made a cruel joke on the rest of aion players by installing the hell grind of level 40- level 45. Its like they purposely made it to piss off people.
I have close to 12 gallons of red bull altogether gridning almost nonstop from levle 40-45 then any other levels ive experienced.
I dont plan on doing it again either. Yea i lost my social life to the grind and i dont plan on doing it again on a new alternate character, thats just not me and i realized it.
Yes im a little burned out Thiw week im off aion due to exams in the university. You think its easy to grind in aion???? Try getting to level 40 or better yet if you got enough patience like me you shoudl try getting to level 43. Easy grinding huh? I woudl like your view when you hit those levels around 40's. I have to grind 900,000 ab for the best abyss gears and some medals. But abyss is going to take awhile. If your not already level 40's now i suggest you prepapre for a long ass grind of your life getting to level 45. Everything gives crap exp EVERYTHING. They purposely make your grinding life miserable by introducing the hell grind from 40 to 45.
You seem to confuse "time consuming" with "challenging." Taking many, many hours of grinding to level does not equate to a higher level of difficulty.
Furor could you at least provide your character name?
I won't even bother reading your comments anymore since from your last "review" you said aion is more grinder then lineage there is something wrong so till you give me/us your character name to see if you really got till that level I will consider it a troll attempt.
I quit the game at lvl 36 cuz of the boring ass grind
Y same here.. after 35 was just a waste of time.. when after 3 days i could not find the will to even log in game i knew it was time to move to something else as i did.
I do respect the tenacity and persistance of people who will grind their toons up to 50 tho.. its by all means a feat to recon of human resistance vs insanity and boredom.
Just a lil thing some people should be aware off :
If you die at theese levels.. you loose so much exp that it becomes stresseful. its a waste of time. This is even more insane if you are one of the unlucky who get dc'ed a lot.. not my case but i know some people who are hehe.
Other factors contributed to my decision too ofc..
The economy is totally bot / farmers controlled. The killstealing is a common policy.. and the auction is full of overpriced items ment to force people to buy cash with real life cash..
The bot farming and gold spamming have got to an unthinkable level.. a level that i never met in any game i have played since 1989 or so.. i mean.. its just sick. They should do like SOE did in Eq2 and open real life cash transfers and sellings on some servers.. way better than this spamming fest in my humble opinion.
About the men from boy separation.. id say men will stop playing this waste of time while boys will keep playing this closed inside their rooms cos really theres nto much else they can do
So in a sense ya.. separates men from boys.. boys will keep grinding to 50.
I am sorry but i have to laugh at that part about men and boys. I have met you in several MMOS and you keep making those L33t guilds that noone wants to join then you go back to the only EU DDO server left and your pathetic dragonslayers (yes with capital letters and exclamation marks) with tail between your legs while decrying your failure as the last games fault. Real men pay their money and move on they don't sit and cry on forums about how a mmo did not make your weener grow. Get over it you're 45 its time to leave the basement. (Liberace/bard)
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I was hoping for better news, getting to cap is very anti-climatic. I was hoping the few at 50 were the exception to the rule and that most would never attain such heights.
Some day the will bring hell levels back.
The real question is, what the hell do you do at 50 that you dont already do levels 30-40?
Fortress seiges? Because i do that now at 30, and they are so crowded and laggy its unplayable. I mean they arnt on an instance and an unlimited amount of players can join....and that lag extends thoughout the whole server (in case you werent participating in the fort seige). Its not a little lag, its insane amounts of lag and constant disconnects. Rubberband while flying is my fav. I have no past history of unwarrented mmorpg lag either. Mabey they thought that 300 people seiging on the same instance as everyone else wouldnt create lag?
So wer are all worried about how long it take to grind to 50,w hen the real question is, whats so special about 50, other than being able to gank noobs?
As per seiges causing lag - anyone who ever played early Shadowbane could tell you about that. I guess the devs didn't bother to study games that had issues with that.
Anyone can answer this ^^^^?
There's no dungeons at lvl 45?
Well there's the dark poeta instance as well as the shugo instance.
I I know the shugo instance is supposed to help pve players get higher. there is also the Balaur ship instance, The Dreadgion.
I believe these are supposed to be higher level instances but I'll have to see what lvl they start with.
edit: found this...
http://www.aionarmory.com/search.aspx?browse=3.4
Name Level Type
Adma Stronghold 50 Instance
Aetherogenetics Lab 41 - 45 Instance
Alquimia Research Center 41 - 44 Instance
Asteria Chamber 45 - 50 Instance
Azoturan Fortress 43 - 45 Instance
Chamber of Roah 45 - 50 Instance
Dark Poeta 50 Instance
Draupnir Cave 43 - 48 Instance
Dredgion 50 Instance
Eracus Temple Cavern 28 - undefined Instance
Fire Temple 30 - 38 Instance
Indratu Fortress 41 - 48 Instance
Krotan Chamber Instance
Kysis Chamber 45 - 50 Instance
Lava Caves Instance
Left Wing Chamber 35 Instance
Miren Chamber 45 - 50 Instance
Nochsana Training Camp 25 - 28 Instance
Right Wing Chamber 35 Instance
Sky Temple of Arkanis 30 - 33 Instance
Steel Rake 40 - 45 Instance
Sulfur Tree Nest 35 Instance
Theobomos Lab 50 Instance
Not sure if both sides hve these or if there is a split
So by that link shows there are dungeons that help you level dunno if the OP used them but he didn't mention them so thanks for pointing them out sovrath
Yes, there are dungeons. But everything after Nochsana gives pathetic xp compared to just grinding. Also the bosses don't even drop anything half of the times you kill them
I think that the OP was making a joke about the man enough part if u notice the "lol" part. Stalwart emotions is actually one of the things that separates men from boys. So if him saying using that upset u then u may want to do a gut check. If u only see what u want to see and not the reality of a situation then thats childish. An example would be a child wanting every toy he/she sees and the parents telling them that they cant afford it. A man knows that undisciplined spending is not wise. A boy on the other hand will see the the denial of the toys with spite instead of knowing that his parents are looking out for his overall well being by buying food with the money instead of toys. Anyways i play MMO's for the reason that they take a long time. If i only have to pay 15 dollars a month as compared to 60 on a new game each month, im going with the MMO. MMO's are community games where people who all like submerging themselves in a reality world for a little while. If getting to max level and then being bored is your thing then do it but stop complaining about it. I'm sure people who group do not have as much of a hard time as u do. I dont mind grinding games. I almost forgot about grinds while playing W.O.W because it wasnt one in W.O.W but i stil enjoyed the game tho and appreciate Blizzard for the fun times. The more i read about the grind in Aion the more i cant wait to get home for R&R. With the grind i know i will be busy for a looong time.
While his claim that any kind of grind separates the good players from the bad is ridiculous, the mad rush to the end game is an unfortunate byproduct of WoW. A great deal of people new in the genre are now infused with the idea that "the game starts at the end game", which leads them to burn themselves out in a mad rush towards there, ignoring the journey in the process.
It is true though, that if all you do is checking your exp bar, you're not having fun. Which reminds me of those addons in WoW that were calculating how many mobs of a certain kind you needed to kill to level. When people do that in Aion, it's probably a good time to look elsewhere for your fun, either in another MMO or in another genre.
It really was an extremely stupid decision to raise level cap to 50 from 45. I would like to hear ONE good reason from the makers for that decision, only ONE!
...
other than the possibility of them getting more money since people needs more game time to reach the level cap. Only now massive amounts of people will leave beacause they get bored trying to get there in the first place
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
"
And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
I THINK OP IS A PRETTY COOL GUY, HE GRINDS 450 HOURS AND ISNT AFRAID OF ANYTHING
hehe couldn't resist:P
>>> "levels 40-50 is what seperates us from man to boy."
Answer: i think it seperates Lifeless from living people, if someone has so much time for leveling a virtual char from 1 to 50 then something is wrong with his brain. its not hardcore btw, its plain stupid and somehow i feel a bit sorry for people like you. they are addicted but they think they are Hardcore, how sad..
>>> "levels 40-50 is what seperates us from man to boy."
Answer: i think it seperates Lifeless from living people, if someone has so much time for leveling a virtual char from 1 to 50 then something is wrong with his brain. its not hardcore btw, its plain stupid and somehow i feel a bit sorry for people like you. they are addicted but they think they are Hardcore, how sad..
Honestly, Portland that was just plain rude. For someone to take the dedication and strength to get that far, that is something. For you to sit here a post on a forum how they have no life.. that indicates all you do is sit around and read forums for endless hours while trying to think of what to do with your life. Accept the people who love to play games just as others accept you for.. well whatever you are.
This is a MMORPG forum. Respect what people do and how much they achieve. In life or in a game, it's still something.
Honestly, there only a few LEGIT people who are level 50 already. And my guess is that 90% of those would be rangers and sorcerors, who can solo elites and get 300k exp. Although, they do have to kite the elite mob for 5 minutes lol.
Or, its 2 or 3 people taking turns playing on the same character, which I've heard a few people doing. Which is fine, I really dont see any problems with that.
However, what I do have a problem with are the bots. Whoever said that they see just as many bots as they do in other games, I say BS to you! There are so many in Aion that it's ridiculous, to the point of being laughable. I've been in areas of the game with 10 people close to me, and i was the only one actually playing. That's how bad the bots are.
For the last few days before I stopped playing, I just got the bots killed. Since most of them are gladiators I would just kite 2 mobs near them, wait for him to use an AoE, then mobs catch the aggro from them and get the bot get killed. And when that wasn't fun anymore, I quit.
Sitting on your ass staring at the computer screen for 12 hours a day mashing buttons in a repetitive order for months on end is associated with manliness?
Oh gods.
Men aren't what they used to be
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In a certain kind of world it is. It might not be so among the GIs or firefighters, but among MMO players it certainly is.
You don't have to be a part of MMO community, yet you choose to be (since you're reading and posting to MMORPG forums, it's safe to presume so) and ridicule the ways of the community.
Oh gods.
In a certain kind of world it is. It might not be so among the GIs or firefighters, but among MMO players it certainly is.
You don't have to be a part of MMO community, yet you choose to be (since you're reading and posting to MMORPG forums, it's safe to presume so) and ridicule the ways of the community.
Oh gods.
I like MMOs alot, I just think 12 hour days are serious addiction. If you play *that* much and consider it normal...it's not. It's beyond unhealthy.
no man.... Since I got to work and feed my family, pay my bills, house, car, electricity, gas, food, taxes.... walk my dog and other shit etcs, I'm just a boy cause can't fkg play ALL day and become a man. I'm so envy
((
The Grind in this game is very easy compare to others games.
You mean Easily Comparable. And yes, to other Korean MMOS, where its a major grindfest with barely any quests 40+ and you get EXP nerfed if someone is more then 2 levels above you 35+ and that you get EXP nerfed for grouping in general. Better to clarify yourself instead of being so generic.
Yes im a little burned out Thiw week im off aion due to exams in the university.
You think its easy to grind in aion???? Try getting to level 40 or better yet if you got enough patience like me you shoudl try getting to level 43. Easy grinding huh? I woudl like your view when you hit those levels around 40's.
I have to grind 900,000 ab for the best abyss gears and some medals. But abyss is going to take awhile.
If your not already level 40's now i suggest you prepare for a long ass grind of your life getting to level 45. Everything gives crap exp EVERYTHING. They purposely make your grinding life miserable by introducing the hell grind from 40 to 45. I think ncsoft made a cruel joke on the rest of aion players by installing the hell grind of level 40- level 45. Its like they purposely made it to piss off people.
I have close to 12 gallons of red bull altogether gridning almost nonstop from levle 40-45 then any other levels ive experienced.
I dont plan on doing it again either. Yea i lost my social life to the grind and i dont plan on doing it again on a new alternate character, thats just not me and i realized it.
You seem to confuse "time consuming" with "challenging." Taking many, many hours of grinding to level does not equate to a higher level of difficulty.
Furor could you at least provide your character name?
I won't even bother reading your comments anymore since from your last "review" you said aion is more grinder then lineage there is something wrong so till you give me/us your character name to see if you really got till that level I will consider it a troll attempt.
o hey i play on yuseil server ill pm you my character name. my cleric is now 46.
well my free subscription ended today.. i don't have the intention of renewing. the grinding is too much to bear.
Games on my waiting list:
Guild War 2
Tera
Rift
Forsaken World
Y same here.. after 35 was just a waste of time.. when after 3 days i could not find the will to even log in game i knew it was time to move to something else as i did.
I do respect the tenacity and persistance of people who will grind their toons up to 50 tho.. its by all means a feat to recon of human resistance vs insanity and boredom.
Just a lil thing some people should be aware off :
If you die at theese levels.. you loose so much exp that it becomes stresseful. its a waste of time. This is even more insane if you are one of the unlucky who get dc'ed a lot.. not my case but i know some people who are hehe.
Other factors contributed to my decision too ofc..
The economy is totally bot / farmers controlled. The killstealing is a common policy.. and the auction is full of overpriced items ment to force people to buy cash with real life cash..
The bot farming and gold spamming have got to an unthinkable level.. a level that i never met in any game i have played since 1989 or so.. i mean.. its just sick. They should do like SOE did in Eq2 and open real life cash transfers and sellings on some servers.. way better than this spamming fest in my humble opinion.
About the men from boy separation.. id say men will stop playing this waste of time while boys will keep playing this closed inside their rooms cos really theres nto much else they can do
So in a sense ya.. separates men from boys.. boys will keep grinding to 50.
I am sorry but i have to laugh at that part about men and boys. I have met you in several MMOS and you keep making those L33t guilds that noone wants to join then you go back to the only EU DDO server left and your pathetic dragonslayers (yes with capital letters and exclamation marks) with tail between your legs while decrying your failure as the last games fault. Real men pay their money and move on they don't sit and cry on forums about how a mmo did not make your weener grow. Get over it you're 45 its time to leave the basement. (Liberace/bard)
OP must do something wrong since the average level time till level 50 is 300 hours until now. I guess he gathered his way from 40-45 :P