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ViolentY
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ok, I know I've done a lot of joking, pissing, and moaning about this past DnL contest.
But now I want to get serious.
Should MMORPG.com adopt a new contest policy?
After doing a quick search of all the winners, I found only one of them has a post count over 50... [Edit: Sorry, I thought I checked them all, but beatbox has a 300+ post count. :P] around 10 of them have a post count under 25, around 5 of them have a post count under 10, and a few of them have never posted before. Some of them have even won the past few contests... the CoH, Ryzom, and RYL contest.
I know the forums aren't the only attraction of this site, and that it's a great news and review site, as well. But I take pride in being a part of the community here, and feel the forums are perhaps it's strongest point--even with all the fanboy flamewars and the horrible grammar.
Now, am I still in the throws of immature jealousy and is this just a fairy-tale idea, or should MMORPG.com make the contests more inclined to the more dedicated to the MMORPG.com community? As it is, after all, what makes the site?
If it was the former, I apologize and guess I need some time to cool off...
But if it were the latter, I purpose we try a different winning system for the next contest... either a substantially shorter grace period allowing the winners to claim their prize, or perhaps even what Fileplanet did with their past EQ2 closed beta contest, where for one day at any time they were going to post a link to go to, and the first 50 people won an account? I personally liked the latter of the two, because it would definately have people hanging around longer than just the time of the drawing, and would go to the people who are bettering the community, not just the ones hoping to win.
This would also help the business aspect of MMORPG.com, as the "one log-in per day" was--again, from a business standpoint--intended to get people to register a forum account and get them in here and maybe make some posts (The same idea as when stores have sales or door-prizes... get people into the store, and while they're there, they might buy something). But with this new plan, they would HAVE to stick around, not just have to register and then not even come to the site again until anywhere between 9pm and 9pm the following day.
Again, sorry for the lengthy post... maybe this is just what I needed to vent for not winning. :P
Oh, and I'm still cutting my legs off for those of you who are interested.
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"Io rido, e rider mio non passa dentro;
Io ardo, e l'arsion mia non par di fore."
-Machiavelli
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As one of those winners, I present my side:
I check MMORPG.com usually 3+ times a day. Just because I don't post doesn't mean I'm not contributing. Without all the nonposting members, MMORPG would lose over half its fanbase I'm sure. It loses hits, it loses advertisers and support from companies. It wouldn't be what it is today.
EDIT: Apparently I have 158 posts. How I do not know :P
I come to this site everyday (often multiple times a day) and read the stories and the message boards. I am not entirely sure I understand why I should be restricted in contests because I choose not to post a lot. Besides, what you are suggesting makes no sense ... I don't see why a person should be benefited merely because they have the time to stare at a website all day. Many of us work and have lives ... but that doesn't mean we don't enjoy the contests, etc. as much as the next guy.
At any rate, I didn't win.
Spooooon!!!!
It would be nice if your "activity" on MMORPG.com played into the "randomness" of a person winning. Anyone can just "login" to a site multiple times.
I still think those who just login and go should have a shot at it, but I feel that the participants of the site should have a better chance. I'm not bitter that those who won aren't active, that's all fine with me. But I'd like to see the contests in the future reward those who actually participate in the community more than those who don't.
I think if that happened, the results would wind up benefitting MMORPG.com as well. If they have more active particiapnts winning the beta's, it's more likely their site will get detailed evaluations of the games once the NDA's allow it since the winners are already active participants in the community.
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"Io rido, e rider mio non passa dentro;
Io ardo, e l'arsion mia non par di fore."
-Machiavelli
That would be REALLY messed up if the dude has multiple accounts/multiple entries in the contest and just posted on the wrong account.
If you mean "people that post more" should have a better chance, that is a bad idea. At the end of the day you would have tons of lamers spamming to get their counts up. I rarely post because 1) I am more of a reader and 2) There is no sense in spamming if you don;t have something useful to say.
Spooooon!!!!
Spooooon!!!!
I never suggested that it go by post counts. The reason I mentioned post counts was to give an estimate of how active the winners are... they've been registered for so long, yet have VERY lost post counts, and only 8 people have confirmed their winnings almost 2 hours after the drawing.
The two alternatives I suggested do not depend on post counts... they depend on activity. ie, the grace period: if you're not around in 3 hours or so after the drawing, you lose your win. Also, the Fileplanet "random link": you have to check the site every once and awhile to see if they posted the link... not necessarily post, but be active.
Both would help the community's growth more than the current contest system.
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"Io rido, e rider mio non passa dentro;
Io ardo, e l'arsion mia non par di fore."
-Machiavelli
No, not use post counts. Perhaps something like the ranking system does now. See this in the FAQ to see what I am talking about. It is geared to not count "filler" posts which would be like SPAM as you say.
That would be REALLY messed up if the dude has multiple accounts/multiple entries in the contest and just posted on the wrong account.
LMFAO, that's exactly what I was thinking, but didn't want to say anything. I think he just supported my second suggestion for a new contest rule.
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"Io rido, e rider mio non passa dentro;
Io ardo, e l'arsion mia non par di fore."
-Machiavelli
Im not sure I like that idea of having to claim your ticket within 3 hours of the contest. This site is used by people all around the world. So they should be penalized because they are in school or work? I think the 24 hour grace period is just fine. And if they ever do the contests by post count, we all would be doomed because Murt the Ultimate Forum Troll would win 75% of the contests ( hi Murt lol)
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"Io rido, e rider mio non passa dentro;
Io ardo, e l'arsion mia non par di fore."
-Machiavelli
What's even more funny is that one of the winners actually previously accused MMORPG.com of rigging their contests...
That's great!
----ITS A TRAP!!!----
----ITS A TRAP!!!----
I never apply for any contest.
But bigger yap should not be favorised.
The amount of posts is irrelevant.
Someone with 2 posts may have contribute more with his 2 posts then someone like me posting here and there and going beside the topic most of the time.
They should not change the rules, it is perfect as it is, pure random, fair for everyone, as long as you log in to buy more loto tickets.
EDIT: Suggestion, MMORPG.com could require an electricity bill proof with your name and address + driver license(or something else) or something like that, either pre or post winning, but that would be a lot of work for them, not sure they want to go throught that, I rather have them working on the site then on the reward given the choice...an alternate original solution would be to require a meeting with a toon you have in a MMORPG your are playing and the game staff could then give MMORPG the names of all your alternates to make sure you didnt give same account for more then 1 name here.
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
As much as I'm pissed about not winning, I like the rules as they are.
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-- Ken Olson, chairman of Digital Equipment Corp, 1977
I agree with everything you said except that line. It's fair if everyone played fair and only got one account.
But what I'm talking about isn't a question of fairness, but a reward for being loyal to the site. Yes, direct posts should not matter. But being at the site enough should be... and that's what this current system does not allow. As long as you take 2 seconds to log in each day, you have as good a chance as any to win.
Again, on a business standpoint, with this sytem, they would just hope that they'll become a part of the community by registering. If they were forced--not forced, but it would help them greatly--to be active with the site, it would be better for the site's business and community.
Alright, well as of right now, I'm going to bed... I'll check the situation out tomorrow. Hopefully they'll be doing a re-draw of at least a few of them (especially the one that may have been caused by multiple account/entries) and I'll be thrown into the hat again.
Still haven't gotten any PMs about my legs, yet.
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"Io rido, e rider mio non passa dentro;
Io ardo, e l'arsion mia non par di fore."
-Machiavelli
ORCS SHALL RULE WoW and DnL!!
ORCS SHALL RULE WoW and DnL!!
I don't even think IP logging is a viable solution. It's too easy for someone to login from home and then from work to have 2 entries into the contest. The IP's would definitely be different. Hell, they could have their work laptop up at home and be VPN'ed into the work network and access MMORPG.com through that.
There's probably also a large number of proxy servers out on the web that could be used to mask your IP if you wanted to. The only way IP logging would really work is if the person doing the multiple accounts screwed up and posted under one of the other ID's which didn't correspond to their account's history. Even then, it just looks suspicious and isn't anything that can definitively say they are cheating.
Forum communities typically overvalue their worth. In truth, the vast majority of players (and in this case, readers of this website) have little to do with forums.
Well heres an ideah that might work; MMORPG.com still counts only one login per day but the number of entries per login depend on your user rating 5 stars would mean 5 entries per day, on top of that you have to stay logged in to MMORPG.com for at least 10 min before your entries count so you cant just log in and leave in one min without doing anything.
I havent done alot of posts but my user rating is still up because the amount of time I been a member. I work,play and spent time with my family but for a few mins a day I stop in to see whats on the forums,any new polls or new contests. I think this system might work; But what do I know?
Just my $0.02
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Well I wouldn't mind if it switched to a system that favored people that have been registered longer.
*evil smile*
Ok now seriously, I was a winner. This is my only account here, and I've been coming to this site for quite awhile. I don't post alot because frankly, alot of discussions arn't worth joining. What I say won't changed someones mind about what kind of MMORPG someone likes, or what a fanboi thinks. I've got to say its a nice site too. If I had never come here, I would never have given Eve another chance.
I'm also not one of the people that just want to play, I've been in quite a few betas. And its nice to know that you have a positive impact on a game you want to try someday.
Too bad my vacation ended today
[quot]Originally posted by Phoenix22
Well heres an ideah that might work; MMORPG.com still counts only one login per day but the number of entries per login depend on your user rating 5 stars would mean 5 entries per day, on top of that you have to stay logged in to MMORPG.com for at least 10 min before your entries count so you cant just log in and leave in one min without doing anything.
I havent done alot of posts but my user rating is still up because the amount of time I been a member. I work,play and spent time with my family but for a few mins a day I stop in to see whats on the forums,any new polls or new contests. I think this system might work; But what do I know?
Just my $0.02
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No because that would promote spamming. People would just post a crapload of junk to keep their rating up.
I like how it is now. I just found out about this site from a friend(he convienently told me about it *after* the DnL contest ended. But I don't want to be requires to post, and I don't have the time to click on refresh every few seconds to see if I can enter(like the fileplanet example). I do have time for, however, to visit this site once a day, and check up on the latest news for MMORPGs, which is what I fully plan on doing.
I like how it is now, is gives everyone a chance, and gives an advantage for people who visit the site more often.
Didn't read the whole topic, but yes, I've won in the past. Not recently though. Won the UX:O beta (...shut up) and the EQ/Zboard contest as well as some others. This is my only account, so lets refrain from crying out that I posted on the "wrong account"...
I only have one account either and i don't want competitions based on ratings either because a while ago i was an advanced member again because i didn't post for quite some time. I like to read what people say about some games and especially when i am not in a beta myself. I like tye interviews on this site too. I won a few contests (like City of Heroes and MxO) but never the ones you really want but mayeb i am just a bad loser but whenever a contest is doen i wake up at 2-3 am to check the site.
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