12-14 there are loads of quest for both Asmodians and Elyos, I know because I'm within that level range. Both Elyos and Asmodians get loads of quests in their forest area even after they run out of quests there they only have to walk a short distance to get some more.
It's quality not quantity. People complain about 1-25 not because there isn't anything to do, it's because it's boring as hell. It's about the most on-rails, linear experience you'll ever have in an MMO.
Yet people complain there are "no quests" but can't walk 50 feet outside a town to find them.
Wow some of you are just terri-bad players (sorry it has to be said)...
Either that or full of shit...
Like - running out of quests at level 13? Are you SERIOUS? I had a full quest log at that level... how the hell can you run out of quests?
As for the lvl 21 block - there's a bit of grinding to do there - you CAN do it through quests but you have to run around a little bit. To be honest, you're pretty much better off grinding a 1/3 of a level and get to 22 when a ton of new quests open up for you. Im lvl 23 on my Asmo character and I have about 18-20 quests to do, not including my campaign quest. I did get some of these at 22 though - so you may not have access to all of them before tha point.
That being said - there are LOTS of quests in that level range you just need to find them. IE: Actually explore and find new NPC's. Sometimes they are just randomly placed and doesn't have to always be in the main town. You need to explore and look around... it isn't all hand-fed (which some people like and some don't - depends on the perspective).
WTF does running out of quests have to do with being a bad player? I swear people will use anything to justify their chosen game.
I ran out of quests not because of lack of foresight by the developers. No, I ran out of quests because I'm a bad player. We're talking about level 13 here, folks. There really is only one or two spots to get quests. If you follow the designed quest progression from Altgard, to the forest and Basfelt village (or whatever that place is called), that is.
Yes, there are some quests in Panda, one dealing with the arena and the other with the book in the library. But in my case, I repeat, MY CASE, it was not enough to get me to level 14. I did have high level campaign quests but the mobs associated with those quests were too high level for me.
BTW, I can't seriously consider repeatable quests as actual quests. Killing 20 taygas or bringing the guy something to drink 100 times is not content.
Wow some of you are just terri-bad players (sorry it has to be said)...
Either that or full of shit...
Like - running out of quests at level 13? Are you SERIOUS? I had a full quest log at that level... how the hell can you run out of quests?
As for the lvl 21 block - there's a bit of grinding to do there - you CAN do it through quests but you have to run around a little bit. To be honest, you're pretty much better off grinding a 1/3 of a level and get to 22 when a ton of new quests open up for you. Im lvl 23 on my Asmo character and I have about 18-20 quests to do, not including my campaign quest. I did get some of these at 22 though - so you may not have access to all of them before tha point.
That being said - there are LOTS of quests in that level range you just need to find them. IE: Actually explore and find new NPC's. Sometimes they are just randomly placed and doesn't have to always be in the main town. You need to explore and look around... it isn't all hand-fed (which some people like and some don't - depends on the perspective).
WTF does running out of quests have to do with being a bad player? I swear people will use anything to justify their chosen game.
I ran out of quests not because of lack of foresight by the developers. No, I ran out of quests because I'm a bad player. We're talking about level 13 here, folks. There really is only one or two spots to get quests. If you follow the designed quest progression from Altgard, to the forest and Basfelt village (or whatever that place is called), that is.
Yes, there are some quests in Panda, one dealing with the arena and the other with the book in the library. But in my case, I repeat, MY CASE, it was not enough to get me to level 14. I did have high level campaign quests but the mobs associated with those quests were too high level for me.
BTW, I can't seriously consider repeatable quests as actual quests. Killing 20 taygas or bringing the guy something to drink 100 times is not content.
I got to 17 before I had to "grind" a single mob... and I didn't do ANY repeatable quests.
Do you think PERHAPS that you aren't finding all the quests? Did you go south past basfelt village to find the NPC with a bunch of quests? Did you do all the ones in the north side?
There are a TON of quests in that area... maybe you aren't a bad player (I apologize if that came off harsh it wasn't intended directly at you) - but you should explore more to find more quests.
People complain the game is linear but don't want to go find any quests/content... its strange
Wow some of you are just terri-bad players (sorry it has to be said)...
Either that or full of shit...
Like - running out of quests at level 13? Are you SERIOUS? I had a full quest log at that level... how the hell can you run out of quests?
As for the lvl 21 block - there's a bit of grinding to do there - you CAN do it through quests but you have to run around a little bit. To be honest, you're pretty much better off grinding a 1/3 of a level and get to 22 when a ton of new quests open up for you. Im lvl 23 on my Asmo character and I have about 18-20 quests to do, not including my campaign quest. I did get some of these at 22 though - so you may not have access to all of them before tha point.
That being said - there are LOTS of quests in that level range you just need to find them. IE: Actually explore and find new NPC's. Sometimes they are just randomly placed and doesn't have to always be in the main town. You need to explore and look around... it isn't all hand-fed (which some people like and some don't - depends on the perspective).
WTF does running out of quests have to do with being a bad player? I swear people will use anything to justify their chosen game.
I ran out of quests not because of lack of foresight by the developers. No, I ran out of quests because I'm a bad player. We're talking about level 13 here, folks. There really is only one or two spots to get quests. If you follow the designed quest progression from Altgard, to the forest and Basfelt village (or whatever that place is called), that is.
Yes, there are some quests in Panda, one dealing with the arena and the other with the book in the library. But in my case, I repeat, MY CASE, it was not enough to get me to level 14. I did have high level campaign quests but the mobs associated with those quests were too high level for me.
BTW, I can't seriously consider repeatable quests as actual quests. Killing 20 taygas or bringing the guy something to drink 100 times is not content.
I got to 17 before I had to "grind" a single mob... and I didn't do ANY repeatable quests.
Do you think PERHAPS that you aren't finding all the quests? Did you go south past basfelt village to find the NPC with a bunch of quests? Did you do all the ones in the north side?
There are a TON of quests in that area... maybe you aren't a bad player (I apologize if that came off harsh it wasn't intended directly at you) - but you should explore more to find more quests.
People complain the game is linear but don't want to go find any quests/content... its strange
Most of those quests become available at level 14. If you somehow manage to finish up the quests you get in that area at level 13, you'll have to grind the rest of the way. Which isn't a bad grind at all, but it's still there.
Haha! If you dont like working for your levels (unlike other MMOs) you may as well leave Aion now. Nothing in Aion comes easy so most gamers will be turned off right away. I personally love it!! Having a blast so far. :-)
It's been well reported in the past that Asmos, 20-25 has less quests than Elyos. Most complaining for shortage of quests has always come from Asmos players while the Elyos players would always respond with troll comments insulting the Asmos players having a lack of intelligence.
If you do every quest in Panda as well as grind your gathering you may only need to do repeatables a few times. Otherwise you'll need to grind on repeatable quests. A lot of people don't do the city quests and miss out on a lot of experience.
If you aren't into reading text just have the quests locate your destination for you and knock them out. Aion is one of the most hand holding linear, no mods required games out there. You can do it! If you don't get bored out of your skull first.
I don't understand how you guys are running out of quests, i mean you would strictly have to focus on just what the quests make you do or buy the drops you need off broker.
Honestly if you run out of quests, its your own fault. I'm sitting here at 30 with roughly 7-10 quests in 3 different zones, not even including the campaigns, and up to this point have never had a shortage on them.
Make sure to check outside of town, theirs lots of npc's in various camps that give quests.
I don't understand how you guys are running out of quests, i mean you would strictly have to focus on just what the quests make you do or buy the drops you need off broker.
True. I am level 26 with 28 quests and I never grind mobs (there were situations where I could not take on quests due to the limit of 30).
I don't understand how you guys are running out of quests, i mean you would strictly have to focus on just what the quests make you do or buy the drops you need off broker.
True. I am level 26 with 28 quests and I never grind mobs (there were situations where I could not take on quests due to the limit of 30).
My quest log has been full thoughout levels 30-40 and still is. Ive actually has to delete quests so i could accept more important ones numerous times. I guess Aion is so linear that people struggle finding all the quest hubs
Just cruise the city, do some tradeskills, grind gathering, it's boring but it helps if you're Asmodian hitting the 20-25 grind. It picks back up pretty heavily at 30 though, then slows down again later. It's a pretty easy, mind numbing game, with completely pointless time sinks, but if you can get past the boring you may like it later when you get into the Abyss. I know, it's the same argument fanboys have been making since early beta days.
12-14 there are loads of quest for both Asmodians and Elyos, I know because I'm within that level range. Both Elyos and Asmodians get loads of quests in their forest area even after they run out of quests there they only have to walk a short distance to get some more.
It's quality not quantity. People complain about 1-25 not because there isn't anything to do, it's because it's boring as hell. It's about the most on-rails, linear experience you'll ever have in an MMO.
Im level 24 and this is complete BS. I have been having fun with this game since day 1. If it gets better at 25, then great, but as it is now, I am loving it.
12-14 there are loads of quest for both Asmodians and Elyos, I know because I'm within that level range. Both Elyos and Asmodians get loads of quests in their forest area even after they run out of quests there they only have to walk a short distance to get some more.
It's quality not quantity. People complain about 1-25 not because there isn't anything to do, it's because it's boring as hell. It's about the most on-rails, linear experience you'll ever have in an MMO.
Im level 24 and this is complete BS. I have been having fun with this game since day 1. If it gets better at 25, then great, but as it is now, I am loving it.
Let me know how you like it when you start your third alt and have to go through 1-25 again the exact same way you did it the previous two times.
Or are you going to be like a lot of others and burn out at level 40 on your first character?
I've noticed that it seems to depend on playstyle. When I solo, I just barely keep up with quests. When I join full groups, for group content, I get ahead of my quests. The real problem seems to arise when I join small groups. We aren't strong enough for the group content, but we end up getting less xp from the solo content, and run out of quests.
Personally, I find this frustrating. I prefer small groups, but Aion's almost all about either soloing, or the full balanced group stuff. Not much in between. Would probably fix the problem if we could get more quests when they were ahead of us in level. Too tough to solo, but perfect for 2-3 people.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
Don't you get ridiculously large amounts of XP from mobs?
I remember seeing a guy that had like a generic grindquests, he was level 18 sth. and it would give him like 12000 XP; But then he smashed some random noname mob within seconds and it popped for around 3000 XP. Seriously, I mean that's like 4 mobs for a whole quest?
Where's the point in questing at all?
Now before you start ranting, I know there are also quests that give you 100k XP on that level; but that's still around 30 mobs then.
I remember killing 200 owlbears in EQ2 or grinding 1000 megaspiders in SWG; In Aion, substituting the quest XP with grinding doesn't sound like a huge deal during these particular levels...
Im level 18 and doing the mu mu ring quest, a 4 dot mob give me about 3k xp, 2 k plus for a 2dot mob. So far its still ok.
My suggestion is this, on the way to your quest objective, dont bypass the mobs, dont run on the side to avoid them, dont glide just to avoid them, but kill each and everyone of them that cross your path, or even near it...
This way you will gain more xp than you realize, also do not abandon quest even though you have out level them! At 18 i still have quest for level 14.
Point is every little xp counts and ultimately it all adds up...
I've noticed that it seems to depend on playstyle. When I solo, I just barely keep up with quests. When I join full groups, for group content, I get ahead of my quests. The real problem seems to arise when I join small groups. We aren't strong enough for the group content, but we end up getting less xp from the solo content, and run out of quests. Personally, I find this frustrating. I prefer small groups, but Aion's almost all about either soloing, or the full balanced group stuff. Not much in between. Would probably fix the problem if we could get more quests when they were ahead of us in level. Too tough to solo, but perfect for 2-3 people.
I've had a similar experience so far and it seems to be the case on the asmo side. Soloing can be so boring, so 99% of the time, I group with 2-3 people at least.
there definitely is a quest gap at 13-14. about 1/2-1/3 of a level worth of grinding and you get more quests at basfelt village.
you get more exp faster from grinding than questing, and it's faster to duo than it is to solo grind, even if the exp is halved.
neither mob exp nor quest exp really goes up with the level curve very well. and the 30's is lots of grinding, and apparently the 40's even more so. although some dungeons give good exp(NTC 25-29) others like FT are terrible for exp, and have terrible drop rates.
i didn't have too much of a problem with 20-25 or 25-30, grinded most of the way through although i did most of the quests too.
30+is more boring and the curve definitely ramps up.
the best way to do it is to duo with a buddy. or else the game gets boring fast.
Level 24 Elyos Cleric here and I am having a blast. PvP, tons of quests (TONS), crafting, etc -- I think it might be time for people who dont even play AION to stop making alternate accounts on this site and posting lies about the game. AGAIN I AM LEVEL 24 AND THROUGHOUT 1-24 i CANT EVEN KEEP UP WITH ALL THE QUESTS -- STOP LYING.
On Asmodian side, I ran out of quests at level 13. Thankfully, I was only about a half level away from 14 and the grind wasn't as bad that early. Later on, I ran out of quests at level 21. Or rather I didn't run out but had mostly gathering quests so I went back, leveled up both aether and vitality gathering to 100, which took me about 2 days of casual grinding, did all of the gathering quests and managed to get to 23. I didn't count the repeat quests, because I don't consider them content and because they offer very little XP.
The quests are there but they aren't as numerous as some of you make them out to be.
ok now i know you are full of shit, i have a asmodian alt at lvl 16, and i never even 'almost' ran out of quests in the 16 levels. also play a sorcerer. i dont kill mobs on the way, only what i need for quests, no grinding done, just quests and never came close to run out. either your making stuff up or you just didnt notice the big blue marks on npc's heads.
I'll tell you exactly when I ran out of quests, once on my assassin and once on my spiritmaster. Right as you get into Basfelt Village, you get a few quests but they are not enough to get you all the way to 14 and the next batch of quests start at level 14. So you have to do some grinding.
If you haven't experienced it, it doesn't mean a thing to me because using your own words, I know that you're full of shit because you're claiming that you never ran out of quests and I did twice. See how that works?
Obvious you have skip some lv1-10 quest from the early's map. Also try do some gathering because it give you some XP.
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It's quality not quantity. People complain about 1-25 not because there isn't anything to do, it's because it's boring as hell. It's about the most on-rails, linear experience you'll ever have in an MMO.
Yet people complain there are "no quests" but can't walk 50 feet outside a town to find them.
Cute....
WTF does running out of quests have to do with being a bad player? I swear people will use anything to justify their chosen game.
I ran out of quests not because of lack of foresight by the developers. No, I ran out of quests because I'm a bad player.
We're talking about level 13 here, folks. There really is only one or two spots to get quests. If you follow the designed quest progression from Altgard, to the forest and Basfelt village (or whatever that place is called), that is.
Yes, there are some quests in Panda, one dealing with the arena and the other with the book in the library. But in my case, I repeat, MY CASE, it was not enough to get me to level 14. I did have high level campaign quests but the mobs associated with those quests were too high level for me.
BTW, I can't seriously consider repeatable quests as actual quests. Killing 20 taygas or bringing the guy something to drink 100 times is not content.
WTF does running out of quests have to do with being a bad player? I swear people will use anything to justify their chosen game.
I ran out of quests not because of lack of foresight by the developers. No, I ran out of quests because I'm a bad player.
We're talking about level 13 here, folks. There really is only one or two spots to get quests. If you follow the designed quest progression from Altgard, to the forest and Basfelt village (or whatever that place is called), that is.
Yes, there are some quests in Panda, one dealing with the arena and the other with the book in the library. But in my case, I repeat, MY CASE, it was not enough to get me to level 14. I did have high level campaign quests but the mobs associated with those quests were too high level for me.
BTW, I can't seriously consider repeatable quests as actual quests. Killing 20 taygas or bringing the guy something to drink 100 times is not content.
I got to 17 before I had to "grind" a single mob... and I didn't do ANY repeatable quests.
Do you think PERHAPS that you aren't finding all the quests? Did you go south past basfelt village to find the NPC with a bunch of quests? Did you do all the ones in the north side?
There are a TON of quests in that area... maybe you aren't a bad player (I apologize if that came off harsh it wasn't intended directly at you) - but you should explore more to find more quests.
People complain the game is linear but don't want to go find any quests/content... its strange
Quest XP is in dire need of a boost. That boost is INC
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WTF does running out of quests have to do with being a bad player? I swear people will use anything to justify their chosen game.
I ran out of quests not because of lack of foresight by the developers. No, I ran out of quests because I'm a bad player.
We're talking about level 13 here, folks. There really is only one or two spots to get quests. If you follow the designed quest progression from Altgard, to the forest and Basfelt village (or whatever that place is called), that is.
Yes, there are some quests in Panda, one dealing with the arena and the other with the book in the library. But in my case, I repeat, MY CASE, it was not enough to get me to level 14. I did have high level campaign quests but the mobs associated with those quests were too high level for me.
BTW, I can't seriously consider repeatable quests as actual quests. Killing 20 taygas or bringing the guy something to drink 100 times is not content.
I got to 17 before I had to "grind" a single mob... and I didn't do ANY repeatable quests.
Do you think PERHAPS that you aren't finding all the quests? Did you go south past basfelt village to find the NPC with a bunch of quests? Did you do all the ones in the north side?
There are a TON of quests in that area... maybe you aren't a bad player (I apologize if that came off harsh it wasn't intended directly at you) - but you should explore more to find more quests.
People complain the game is linear but don't want to go find any quests/content... its strange
Most of those quests become available at level 14. If you somehow manage to finish up the quests you get in that area at level 13, you'll have to grind the rest of the way. Which isn't a bad grind at all, but it's still there.
Haha! If you dont like working for your levels (unlike other MMOs) you may as well leave Aion now. Nothing in Aion comes easy so most gamers will be turned off right away. I personally love it!! Having a blast so far. :-)
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It's been well reported in the past that Asmos, 20-25 has less quests than Elyos. Most complaining for shortage of quests has always come from Asmos players while the Elyos players would always respond with troll comments insulting the Asmos players having a lack of intelligence.
If you do every quest in Panda as well as grind your gathering you may only need to do repeatables a few times. Otherwise you'll need to grind on repeatable quests. A lot of people don't do the city quests and miss out on a lot of experience.
If you aren't into reading text just have the quests locate your destination for you and knock them out. Aion is one of the most hand holding linear, no mods required games out there. You can do it! If you don't get bored out of your skull first.
I don't understand how you guys are running out of quests, i mean you would strictly have to focus on just what the quests make you do or buy the drops you need off broker.
Honestly if you run out of quests, its your own fault. I'm sitting here at 30 with roughly 7-10 quests in 3 different zones, not even including the campaigns, and up to this point have never had a shortage on them.
Make sure to check outside of town, theirs lots of npc's in various camps that give quests.
True. I am level 26 with 28 quests and I never grind mobs (there were situations where I could not take on quests due to the limit of 30).
True. I am level 26 with 28 quests and I never grind mobs (there were situations where I could not take on quests due to the limit of 30).
My quest log has been full thoughout levels 30-40 and still is. Ive actually has to delete quests so i could accept more important ones numerous times. I guess Aion is so linear that people struggle finding all the quest hubs
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Just cruise the city, do some tradeskills, grind gathering, it's boring but it helps if you're Asmodian hitting the 20-25 grind. It picks back up pretty heavily at 30 though, then slows down again later. It's a pretty easy, mind numbing game, with completely pointless time sinks, but if you can get past the boring you may like it later when you get into the Abyss. I know, it's the same argument fanboys have been making since early beta days.
It's quality not quantity. People complain about 1-25 not because there isn't anything to do, it's because it's boring as hell. It's about the most on-rails, linear experience you'll ever have in an MMO.
Im level 24 and this is complete BS. I have been having fun with this game since day 1. If it gets better at 25, then great, but as it is now, I am loving it.
It's quality not quantity. People complain about 1-25 not because there isn't anything to do, it's because it's boring as hell. It's about the most on-rails, linear experience you'll ever have in an MMO.
Im level 24 and this is complete BS. I have been having fun with this game since day 1. If it gets better at 25, then great, but as it is now, I am loving it.
Let me know how you like it when you start your third alt and have to go through 1-25 again the exact same way you did it the previous two times.
Or are you going to be like a lot of others and burn out at level 40 on your first character?
I've noticed that it seems to depend on playstyle. When I solo, I just barely keep up with quests. When I join full groups, for group content, I get ahead of my quests. The real problem seems to arise when I join small groups. We aren't strong enough for the group content, but we end up getting less xp from the solo content, and run out of quests.
Personally, I find this frustrating. I prefer small groups, but Aion's almost all about either soloing, or the full balanced group stuff. Not much in between. Would probably fix the problem if we could get more quests when they were ahead of us in level. Too tough to solo, but perfect for 2-3 people.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
Don't you get ridiculously large amounts of XP from mobs?
I remember seeing a guy that had like a generic grindquests, he was level 18 sth. and it would give him like 12000 XP; But then he smashed some random noname mob within seconds and it popped for around 3000 XP. Seriously, I mean that's like 4 mobs for a whole quest?
Where's the point in questing at all?
Now before you start ranting, I know there are also quests that give you 100k XP on that level; but that's still around 30 mobs then.
I remember killing 200 owlbears in EQ2 or grinding 1000 megaspiders in SWG; In Aion, substituting the quest XP with grinding doesn't sound like a huge deal during these particular levels...
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Im level 18 and doing the mu mu ring quest, a 4 dot mob give me about 3k xp, 2 k plus for a 2dot mob. So far its still ok.
My suggestion is this, on the way to your quest objective, dont bypass the mobs, dont run on the side to avoid them, dont glide just to avoid them, but kill each and everyone of them that cross your path, or even near it...
This way you will gain more xp than you realize, also do not abandon quest even though you have out level them! At 18 i still have quest for level 14.
Point is every little xp counts and ultimately it all adds up...
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I've had a similar experience so far and it seems to be the case on the asmo side. Soloing can be so boring, so 99% of the time, I group with 2-3 people at least.
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there definitely is a quest gap at 13-14. about 1/2-1/3 of a level worth of grinding and you get more quests at basfelt village.
you get more exp faster from grinding than questing, and it's faster to duo than it is to solo grind, even if the exp is halved.
neither mob exp nor quest exp really goes up with the level curve very well. and the 30's is lots of grinding, and apparently the 40's even more so. although some dungeons give good exp(NTC 25-29) others like FT are terrible for exp, and have terrible drop rates.
i didn't have too much of a problem with 20-25 or 25-30, grinded most of the way through although i did most of the quests too.
30+is more boring and the curve definitely ramps up.
the best way to do it is to duo with a buddy. or else the game gets boring fast.
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On Asmodian side, I ran out of quests at level 13. Thankfully, I was only about a half level away from 14 and the grind wasn't as bad that early. Later on, I ran out of quests at level 21. Or rather I didn't run out but had mostly gathering quests so I went back, leveled up both aether and vitality gathering to 100, which took me about 2 days of casual grinding, did all of the gathering quests and managed to get to 23. I didn't count the repeat quests, because I don't consider them content and because they offer very little XP.
The quests are there but they aren't as numerous as some of you make them out to be.
ok now i know you are full of shit, i have a asmodian alt at lvl 16, and i never even 'almost' ran out of quests in the 16 levels. also play a sorcerer. i dont kill mobs on the way, only what i need for quests, no grinding done, just quests and never came close to run out. either your making stuff up or you just didnt notice the big blue marks on npc's heads.
I'll tell you exactly when I ran out of quests, once on my assassin and once on my spiritmaster. Right as you get into Basfelt Village, you get a few quests but they are not enough to get you all the way to 14 and the next batch of quests start at level 14. So you have to do some grinding.
If you haven't experienced it, it doesn't mean a thing to me because using your own words, I know that you're full of shit because you're claiming that you never ran out of quests and I did twice. See how that works?
Obvious you have skip some lv1-10 quest from the early's map. Also try do some gathering because it give you some XP.