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Collectors Edition?
vladakov
Member Posts: 710
So, i tried to make this post on the global agenda forums but i couldn't find the Create New Topic button, (yes, lol :P )
The question is, does anyone know if there will be a collectors edition for global agenda?, and if you don't know then you can always answer my second question; do you think its a good idea if they release a collectors edition 
(ps. im a fan of collectors editions, i have WoW CE, WoWTBC CE, WoWwotlk CE, stalker CE, dark messiah CE, even the collectors edition of Multiwinia :P )
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It has been discussed on the official forums, but no official word yet if they will. There is speculation that they will do one, but so far it's just talk for now.
I think he must have found the new topic button, cause this same thread is going in the official forums atm.
I would be extremely surprised if they didnt have one. But its probably a 100% for sure thing. Im looking forward to see what will be in it or packaged with it etc.
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Did this game ever find a publisher? If they don't have one then boxed copies of the game might be limited and they may end up doing a mostly digital download thing the way some other recent MMOs have done (like Fallen Earth).
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Im fine with steam... Honestly who needs a Box for a MMO?
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Steam is DRM so I'm NOT fine with it.
I did digital download Fallen Earth however. Directly from the developer. I think the GA devs should offer a similar option.
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whats wrong with steam being drm? been using steam for years, only issue would be if you cheat and they ban your steam you lose all games on it, encourages good behaivior in the steam user base if you ask me =p, had my steam account since they first came out god knows how many years ago and will have it forever =p
The problem is:
A. When I legally pay for something its MINE and no company has any business looking over my shoulder or asking questions about what I'm doing with my property.
B. I want to be able to play single player games on computers which aren't connected to the internet.
C. When its an MMO, why not just download it directly from the developer and cut out the middle man (Steam would be the middle man in this example)?
D. No form of DRM, inculding Steam, has been able to prevent piracy. Why use something which doesn't work?
E. I have no need for the other "features" of Steam.
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I understand where you are coming from and in general agree with you about DRM. I find it to be a waste of an attempt and generally a nuisance, but in terms of legallity, if you read game EULAs in most cases you do not own any rights to the software. If you did it you would be your legal right to package, sell etc that software. When you buy a game you are essentially buying a lifetime access lease. So no, it is not your right to do with it as you will.
In the case of single player game not playing w/o internet, im not really sure where you got that from. Steam acts as a distribution platform. In most cases you don't need to have it even running to play your game. That choice is made by the devs making the game, not valve. So if you don't like that aspect, blame XYZ developers.
The issue with not having middle man is logistics. It is often easier and potentially more cost effective to allow a retailer to take a cut rather than try to distribute it yourself. Why spend funds on retailing when you are trying to produce, you know?
Now to GA specifically: They are wholly in-house funded which means 2 things:
1) There will almost certainly not be a retail release.
2) The dev team has 100% control over the project. Be it production timeline, art, age rating etc. Which means you (generally) get a much better game. For gamers by gamers instead of for gamers, by moneybags pushing a product *cough im looking at you EA cough*.
A: Which is another major aspect of this industry which I think is unfair for the consumer and should be changed. EULA's are pretty much a blow off for the customer and a way for the developer/publisher to cover their ass in all cases. Its this total lack of respect from game developers which causes so many people to pirate games in the first place. No EULA or DRM on a pirated game.
B: Yes, yes, yes. I hear this a thousand times from Steam fanboys. "But you can play the game in offline mode!" and I'm sure you can. But that doesn't really help me if I can't even INSTALL the game in the first place without an internet connection in the first place, does it? And don't tell me not to blame Valve, they are the worst offender of this. If I go to the store and buy a copy of a game like Fallen Earth off of the shelf I don't need to have Steam to run it even though the game can also be obtained through Steam. But if I buy a game made by Valve (even when its a single player game!) such as HL2 then I HAVE to use Steam to play it. Thats BS. Why require Steam to be installed for a single player game? Thats DRM and should be unacceptable in all cases.
C: I donno, maybe to show some respect for your customers and ensure they can get the product without going through some third party service which will just stick spyware and DRM on their computer?
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A: I don't really know how to reply to that. Every game i've ever installed has SOME sort of EULA on it. Don't buy pc games i guess? The studios have every right to want to maintain legal rights to their hard work. If they didn't want to make money on it, it would be an opensource software.
B: I wouldn't call myself a fanboi, but I do use steam, and find it's features useful (as opposed to bloated, though i concede it can be that at times). You kinda put 2 or 3 points in here, but i think bottom line is it sounds like you don't like valve, so don't buy their games. But just FYI steam has a backup feature that lets you burn your bought games to cd/dvd and reinstall them w/o steam or internet access.
C: Business isn't about showing respect for anyone, its about making money, but that aside I don't find it disrespectful at all. I was talking about middlemen in general, which is to say retailers. The only instance i've ever seen of being able to buy a game directly from a producer (not publisher) is from MMO trials where you just activate an account with a CC. But again, it WILL have a EULA.
i started this thread to figure out if there would be a collectors edition, your jibberish chat about steam is something i couldn´t care less about, i haven´t ever had problems with steam and i like it that i can download games on any PC if i just have steam installed...
stick to point why i made this thread or make your own
regards,
vlad
@Vlad: We anwsered your question. There most likely will NOT be a collectors edition since the company will probably not offer any retail version. The game will most likely be digital download only. Atleast, that is what we THINK will be the case. Nobody knows for sure yet.
The converstaion naturally turned to digital downloads because that is the format we believe the game will be released in.
But since you are going to WHINE about it, I'll send my reply to whats-his-name in a PM. Sheesh.
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i know i got an answer, this post is there also if new CE info gets available. don´t tell me i whine about you, i didn´t make this thread to discuss steam.....
I didnt even notice till just now, but vlad arent you on the official GA forums as well? Maybe just a similar name. Anyway, if you arent on there, they have an answer center with pretty detailed articles on most FAQs.