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Gather 'round... I'm jumping to conclusions!

IlliusIllius Member UncommonPosts: 4,142

Women under 25 don't seem to know what the hell they want, especially when it comes to a relationship.  I'm starting to wonder if they like to be treated poorly or that they're just incapable of seeing something good when they have it.  Thrice now it has happened to me that one of them would walk away only to jump into the arms of some abusive douche that they for some reason tolerate and run to even though what I offered seems above and beyond better.  

I guess you could say I'm a "nice guy" at heart.  I have always figured that if you're with me you'll be taken care of.  It's just not in me to for what ever reason mistreat someone regardless of the circumstances.  It becomes rather annoying to later on down the road listen to the friends of the women I cared about tell me how they are miserable and only now realize what they've had.  Maybe I should start being that asshole myself.  I figure at least then they'll stick around... even if it's for the wrong reasons.

 

Also, most people are assholes.  I've always tried to live in a manner that benefits others.  I kinda figured that if I did good, eventually the good would find it's way back to me.  I'm not exactly sure what I was on when I decided this but I'm starting to think that it was a stupid idea.  Everybody seems to be inclined to take advantage of the other.  Even minor things start to stack up now.  Shit like letting one person merge on the highway only to have 3 others force their way in and almost hit your car TWICE.  Lending someone some tools at work only to find them filthy beyond reason and in sorry state of disrepair all the while expecting to borrow them again the next time and do it all again.

I realize this seems a bit ranty and what-not but I'm allowed!  That and I'm half way through a bottle of Captain Morgan's on an empty stomach so it's starting to kick in.  I'll leave you with a link to an interesting article I read which might support my want to be a pessimist.

Link!

No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-

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  • Scubie67Scubie67 Member UncommonPosts: 462

    Women want a guy with money,even if they tell you they dont ,they want want a guy with money, they are just not being honest with themselves.

  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657

    Most women want men who are assertive not an asshole. Unfortunately asshole is closer to assertiveness than nice. Become more assertive about yourself and the relationship but don't cross the other line.

    "I used to think the worst thing in life was to be all alone.  It's not.  The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel all alone."  Robin Williams
  • IlliusIllius Member UncommonPosts: 4,142

    I'm plenty assertive.  I just think I'm picking the wrong ones.  On the upside, I'm too drunk to care right now.  The booze is working!

    No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-

  • goneglockingoneglockin Member UncommonPosts: 706

    The name of the game is don't settle down before 30.  Have no kids and no baggage and you pretty much get your pick of any one you want.  They are mostly desparate at that point as their looks begin to leave them and they find they don't get nearly as much satisfaction from their careers as they thought they would.  Until then hook up with older women.  Preferably divorcees who just need you for weekly good company, a few drinks and good sex.  That will turn you into a real lady killer in the mean time. 

    Even when you feel you can cherry pick, don't go looking.  Let them show an interest in you first.  It could be eye contact or a smile, some may even awkwardly ask to come out for some type of date,  (Ever notice how horrible women are at asking for a date?) but the best dates are the ones willing to make an effort right from the get go.  Right away the woman who will make effort has a quality that sets her uniquely apart from her peers...  that quality may be charisma or it may be crazy... but it's distinct none the less.

    Good luck.  Go have fun.  Wear a condom.  (I got herpes somewhere along the way.  No biggie.  Could have been MUCH worse!)

    Hope you got your things together. Hope you are quite prepared to die. Looks like we're in for nasty weather. ... There's a bad moon on the rise.

  • IhmoteppIhmotepp Member Posts: 14,495
    Originally posted by Illius


    Women  don't seem to know what the hell they want, especially when it comes to a relationship. 


     

    There, fixed.

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  • dynamo122dynamo122 Member Posts: 162
    Originally posted by goneglockin


    The name of the game is don't settle down before 30.  Have no kids and no baggage and you pretty much get your pick of any one you want.  They are mostly desparate at that point as their looks begin to leave them and they find they don't get nearly as much satisfaction from their careers as they thought they would.  Until then hook up with older women.  Preferably divorcees who just need you for weekly good company, a few drinks and good sex.  That will turn you into a real lady killer in the mean time. 
    Even when you feel you can cherry pick, don't go looking.  Let them show an interest in you first.  It could be eye contact or a smile, some may even awkwardly ask to come out for some type of date,  (Ever notice how horrible women are at asking for a date?) but the best dates are the ones willing to make an effort right from the get go.  Right away the woman who will make effort has a quality that sets her uniquely apart from her peers...  that quality may be charisma or it may be crazy... but it's distinct none the less.
    Good luck.  Go have fun.  Wear a condom.  (I got herpes somewhere along the way.  No biggie.  Could have been MUCH worse!)

     

    Couldn't have said it better myself. Unfortunatly I didn't wear a condom either so you're not the only one in that department.

    Oh well...I had my fun with young meat in the day, and am waiting till I can find more mature women.

  • frodusfrodus Member Posts: 2,396

    My wife is 35 and 7 yrs younger than me and she still don't know what the fuck she wants,this feline has money, looks a daughter and still is a emotional basket case,she changes like the freaking whether man.It drive me nuts,she went from being a nurse to running my business to sitting on her ass all day and she still is night mare.

    I'm at a total loss,I'm sitting here having some gin and tonic wondering wtf,god plz make her more constant in just some things and i would be happy.

    I mean i just want some steady emotional Constancy,fuck is that to much to ask.. its like a damn roller coaster.She is damn lucky my kid isn't 18 and moved out.

    poke one here and their and stay single dude...its cheaper.I love her and my daughter but if i had to do it all over,well you can guest my choice.

    They get more mature as they get older my ass,fucking myth.

    Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.

  • WolfenprideWolfenpride Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,988

     

     

  • qazymanqazyman Member Posts: 1,785

    Illius, Illius, Illius Woman know everything....Haven't you learned that yet.

    In fact, if it wasn't for them men would have long ago destroyed civilization and probably all life on Earth.

    TBH take a deep breath and always keep a smile on your face, it's going to be many many years before you begin to understand the questions you are raising here. : /

  • streeastreea Member UncommonPosts: 654
    Originally posted by Illius


    Humans in general don't seem to know what the hell they want, especially when it comes to a relationship. 



     

    Fixed for you.

    Guys might be more simple, but they're no less crazy then women are. Just crazy in different, oftentimes opposite ways.

    Women can get overly emotional, jealous, petty, and tend to think too much about everything aside from what's really going on inside of them. In other words, they blame everyone else but themself.

    Men can get extremely closed off emotionally, lazy, distracted easily by big, bouncing things, and (hate to break it to you guys) are less intelligent. In other words, they don't really know what's going on inside themself and end up being very lukewarm.

    There's also the fact that... everyone has some type of crazy inside of them. Figure out what type of crazy you can handle, and whatever you do, DO NOT marry any woman who even hints about the idea of "changing you."

  • LeKinKLeKinK Member Posts: 899
    Originally posted by Scubie67


    Women want a guy with money,even if they tell you they dont ,they want want a guy with money, they are just not being honest with themselves.

     

    Yup, at least all the cute one.

  • HorkathaneHorkathane Member Posts: 380
    Originally posted by Illius


    Women under 25 don't seem to know what the hell they want, especially when it comes to a relationship.  I'm starting to wonder if they like to be treated poorly or that they're just incapable of seeing something good when they have it.  Thrice now it has happened to me that one of them would walk away only to jump into the arms of some abusive douche that they for some reason tolerate and run to even though what I offered seems above and beyond better.  
    I guess you could say I'm a "nice guy" at heart.  I have always figured that if you're with me you'll be taken care of.  It's just not in me to for what ever reason mistreat someone regardless of the circumstances.  It becomes rather annoying to later on down the road listen to the friends of the women I cared about tell me how they are miserable and only now realize what they've had.  Maybe I should start being that asshole myself.  I figure at least then they'll stick around... even if it's for the wrong reasons.
     
    Also, most people are assholes.  I've always tried to live in a manner that benefits others.  I kinda figured that if I did good, eventually the good would find it's way back to me.  I'm not exactly sure what I was on when I decided this but I'm starting to think that it was a stupid idea.  Everybody seems to be inclined to take advantage of the other.  Even minor things start to stack up now.  Shit like letting one person merge on the highway only to have 3 others force their way in and almost hit your car TWICE.  Lending someone some tools at work only to find them filthy beyond reason and in sorry state of disrepair all the while expecting to borrow them again the next time and do it all again.
    I realize this seems a bit ranty and what-not but I'm allowed!  That and I'm half way through a bottle of Captain Morgan's on an empty stomach so it's starting to kick in.  I'll leave you with a link to an interesting article I read which might support my want to be a pessimist.
    Link!

    Stop right there.

    Women under 25.

     

    You mean girls under 25, they are not women until they hit 30. Right now its Friends, fashion, money, party and mind games for 5 more years.

  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811

    Nice guys are not sexy. They are very boring. It doesn't mean you have to be a bully or a sexist. You got to play the Jack Nicholson approach.

  • xanphiaxanphia Member Posts: 684

    Here's a tip:

     

    Go to Tokyo. Done. You'll never want an American women again.

  • MardyMardy Member Posts: 2,213

    EQ1-AC1-DAOC-FFXI-L2-EQ2-WoW-DDO-GW-LoTR-VG-WAR-GW2-ESO

  • ScalebaneScalebane Member UncommonPosts: 1,883
    Originally posted by streea

    Originally posted by Illius


    Humans in general don't seem to know what the hell they want, especially when it comes to a relationship. 



     

    Fixed for you.

    Guys might be more simple, but they're no less crazy then women are. Just crazy in different, oftentimes opposite ways.

    Women can get overly emotional, jealous, petty, and tend to think too much about everything aside from what's really going on inside of them. In other words, they blame everyone else but themself.

    Men can get extremely closed off emotionally, lazy, distracted easily by big, bouncing things, and (hate to break it to you guys) are less intelligent. In other words, they don't really know what's going on inside themself and end up being very lukewarm.

    There's also the fact that... everyone has some type of crazy inside of them. Figure out what type of crazy you can handle, and whatever you do, DO NOT marry any woman who even hints about the idea of "changing you."

    It's a TRAP!

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    "The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
    - Lewis Thomas

  • TheodorykTheodoryk Member Posts: 1,453
    Originally posted by Wolfenpride


     

     

     

    That`s just....that`s awesome.

    "Speaking haygywaygy or some other gibberish with your mum doesn't make you foreign."
    -baff

  • PraetorianiPraetoriani Member Posts: 1,147
    Originally posted by streea

    Originally posted by Illius


    Humans in general don't seem to know what the hell they want, especially when it comes to a relationship. 



     

     

    Men can get extremely closed off emotionally, lazy, distracted easily by big, bouncing things, and (hate to break it to you guys) are less intelligent. In other words, they don't really know what's going on inside themself and end up being very lukewarm.

     

    This is beyond bollocks. Perhaps I'm bursting some giant bubble, but the father figures of Family Guy, the Simpsons and other sitcoms aren't representative of men in general. How could you take yourself serious saying something like that when all real world evidence says otherwise, and this is perhaps an understatement, in some cases even pointing towards the opposite direction? But ofcourse, if I as a male said something to the same effect about women, we'd have a feminist shitstorm.

    How you could simply generalise and say men are less intelligent (which cannot be measured, besides IQ tests; which men are better at, although I personally am not a big advocate of IQ testing) is beyond me. A very strange conclusion to make. Obviously, I understand the chances are very large you were just trolling.

  • BrianshoBriansho Member UncommonPosts: 3,586

    Some of my friends have struggled with women but I have figured out a few things. If I'm interested in a chic I don't do the jerk thing but I don't do the nice thing. I always keep myself straight and I do not ever give them what they want right away, no matter what. If I'm not interested I will be as nice as possible and give them as much help/attention as they want.

    You gotta use the situation to your advantage. Women are much easier to figure out than what some people say in my opinion. Guys tend to over-pyschoanalize their situation with chics. They end up picking at themselves trying to figure out what they are doing wrong instead of going with the flow and not worry so much.

    Chics with kids I avoid massively. I'm sure they are good mothers but you never know what kind of drama that will be unloaded on you. Even if its unintentional its just not worth it to share the drama with baby daddy. I have a saying for this, "A man should never dine on another mans leftovers".

    Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!

  • devilisciousdeviliscious Member UncommonPosts: 4,359
    Originally posted by Illius


    I'm plenty assertive.  I just think I'm picking the wrong ones.  On the upside, I'm too drunk to care right now.  The booze is working!



     

    I certainly hope you aren't taking ANY of this advice...

    Best advice: be yourself, she will figure it out sooner or later anyways.. better to know you guys don't get along sooner rather than later. Faking, pretending, changiung yourself or expecting someone else to change is just  a waste of time for both of you.

    Forcing something that just isn't working is like trying to put a square peg in a round hole.  It just isn't meant to be.

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