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NCsoft profits soar 836%, Aion NA, Euro sales near 1M

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  • AlesteAleste Member Posts: 64
    Originally posted by Consensus


    not interesting in playing aion at all but interesting news. the less wow dominates the market the better.

     

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  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,334
    Originally posted by grandpagamer


    Figures lie and liars figure. 836% ? Link all you want, I dont believe that shit for a minuete. If thats the case they must have been in the red before Aion released.

     

    Ok, wait a minute. I'd expect that from the delusional misfits that run rampant here, but this seemed odd coming from you, Grandpa. So, when something like that comes from one of the more lucid and rational members of the community, I really am curious what prompts it.

    Is it that you feel that false financials is an NCSoft thing, a game industry thing or just a makreting thing in general? I'm not asking this to try to prove you wrong or shoot down your argument, and if I find that I disagree with your position I promise I shall keep my mouth shut. I'm really interested, though, in why you feel the number is a lie.

     

     

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  • AntariousAntarious Member UncommonPosts: 2,846
    Originally posted by LynxJSA

    Originally posted by grandpagamer


    Figures lie and liars figure. 836% ? Link all you want, I dont believe that shit for a minuete. If thats the case they must have been in the red before Aion released.

     

    Ok, wait a minute. I'd expect that from the delusional misfits that run rampant here, but this seemed odd coming from you, Grandpa. So, when something like that comes from one of the more lucid and rational members of the community, I really am curious what prompts it.

    Is it that you feel that false financials is an NCSoft thing, a game industry thing or just a makreting thing in general? I'm not asking this to try to prove you wrong or shoot down your argument, and if I find that I disagree with your position I promise I shall keep my mouth shut. I'm really interested, though, in why you feel the number is a lie.

     

     



     

    Well when you consider some of the financial reports that were coming out after Tabula Rasa... I do not find it hard to see a financial statement going up this much from a very successful launch.

     

    You also have to consider the contribution of NCSofts traditional market and the large number of servers running in China.

     

    So that would be my personal perspective on that.  Also since there is an NCSoft west office located in the US... I'm not sure providing false financial statements would be a good idea.

     

     

  • djazzydjazzy Member Posts: 3,578
    Originally posted by Sovrath




     
     
    I do agree with you on your assessment of sales. Sales are great but mean nothing in the long run. All sales show is that a lot of people were initially interested in the game. It really is more important to check back on the game in 6 months or so.
    I do think it will do well but I stand by my 250k - 300k subscriber base guess.



     

    I think that subscriber base is a good call. It's not a game for everybody but it is solid. I will say that my biggest complaint is not with the game itself but the people who run it. I find the customer service pretty piss poor and I really hope they improve that part of it.

  • PelaajaPelaaja Member Posts: 697
    Originally posted by raven222


    What? No Zorndorf reply to this post yet.
    Anyway great news for ncsoft , Aion is a nice game.

    He's busy, I think. I gave him something else to think about:

    Originally posted by Pelaaja

    Originally posted by Zorndorf

    Originally posted by Electriceye

    Originally posted by Zorndorf

    Look at the number of servers and you know exactly this game doesn't grow anymore.

    It simply lost players EN MASSE.

     

    If it did lose players EN MASSE as you say, server I played on hasn't felt it. It is full of players and the server density didn't change at all. It is always Full at peak times and Recommended at other times, just like one of the most populated WoW servers Kazaak used to be. In fact I see people at off-peak hours on Gorgos more than I used to see on Kazaak ^^. Understandable however, seeing as the kids are usually asleep/ at preschool/school.

    But you wouldn't know, would you, fiddling with Xfire numbers trying to prove that "AION FAILS" with every little bit of energy you have. You come across as a sad, sad human being tbph. Pathetic.

    Do you have queuing lines? Nope.

    Does every server show LOCKED at prime time? Nope.

    Did they add servers to the rather low number of 14 NA/18 EU? Nope.

    So it clearly is a sign that the servers are no longer stressed and the max capacity of those servers (200 to 240K) is never reached anymore.

    ALL in accordance with what the oversampled samples of Xfire shows. 50% players just left. A 24/7 on line sample base of 14K users is WAY to BIG. (on line samples 24/7 of 1K users is MORE than enough to have valuable working data).

    Get over it, Aion was surpassed by EVE as second most played subscription based MMORPG in the west.

    ... only 4 weeks after it launched.

    So their target was missed.

     

    Ok, ok. Calm down.

    Aion is dying and they dropped the ball. You've been heard and you're right.

    Satisfied? I hope so.

    Hate this game now that you've been heard at Aion forums, please.

     

     

     

     

     

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  • nihcenihce Member Posts: 539

    836% LOL ... are they mad or is it a typo? Worst lie in history of capitalism

    Just waiting someone with more time on their hands to calculate this number a bit.

  • MyDcmbr81MyDcmbr81 Member Posts: 59
    Originally posted by nihce


    836% LOL ... are they mad or is it a typo? Worst lie in history of capitalism
    Just waiting someone with more time on their hands to calculate this number a bit.



     

    Done.

     

    Last year their income from July - September would have been around $4.8million USD. Multiply that times 836% and you get a bit over $40m USD.

    Really not that far fetched at all considering currency conversions for the game prices in China and Korea vs. game prices in the EU and NA.

     

    EDIT: It sounds like alot more than it is when you put it into % form.

  • SarbocabrasSarbocabras Member Posts: 257
    Originally posted by Scalebane


     nice on the sales, so how many subs do they actually have at this point? not bashing before any fans come in here frothing at the mouth, i'm just curious.

    I'd like to see that aswell.. Haha I did enjoy the game for the most part but I've since ended my subscription due to the release of Dragon Age: Origins.

  • panzerfuchspanzerfuchs Member UncommonPosts: 13

       Nice to hear this, hope they use the money well. Aion is a good game, especially for Korean standards. Hope NCsoft learns more from Aion success in NA, and apply it to Blade and Soul project.

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  • grandpagamergrandpagamer Member Posts: 2,221
    Originally posted by LynxJSA

    Originally posted by grandpagamer


    Figures lie and liars figure. 836% ? Link all you want, I dont believe that shit for a minuete. If thats the case they must have been in the red before Aion released.

     

    Ok, wait a minute. I'd expect that from the delusional misfits that run rampant here, but this seemed odd coming from you, Grandpa. So, when something like that comes from one of the more lucid and rational members of the community, I really am curious what prompts it.

    Is it that you feel that false financials is an NCSoft thing, a game industry thing or just a makreting thing in general? I'm not asking this to try to prove you wrong or shoot down your argument, and if I find that I disagree with your position I promise I shall keep my mouth shut. I'm really interested, though, in why you feel the number is a lie.

     

     

    Im really surprised that im the only who questions this  claim of an 800% increase in profits. I just quickly scanned the link to be sure that is what was stated before my previous post as after making sure of the number claimed I discredited the whole aritcle. Its not just this industry its, as you put it, marketing in general.  To be short and to the  point, I think these numbers are a lie but then again i never believed the sub numbers Blizzard spits out either. Lets just say im very skeptical of accountants and their findings.

  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811

    LOL

     

    About the news, hopefully the devs will get the message that to be succesful you have to:

    1) don't lie to your future players about features

    2) make a polished game

    So kudos to ncsoft for that.

     

    And hopefully to be able to compete with Aion, they will create more interesting MMOs. Besides being polished.

  • PelaajaPelaaja Member Posts: 697
    Originally posted by altairzq


    LOL
     
    About the news, hopefully the devs will get the message that to be succesful you have to:
    1) don't lie to your future players about features
    2) make a polished game
    So kudos to ncsoft for that.
     
    And hopefully to be able to compete with Aion, they will create more interesting MMOs. Besides being polished.

    I'm prepared to take this a bit further.

    1) publish games in east 1st to get the capital and time for polish

    2) make a polished game

    And Aion is interesting for a MMO. It wouldn't be for SPRPG, that was what you were trying to say?

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  • MyDcmbr81MyDcmbr81 Member Posts: 59
    Originally posted by MyDcmbr81




     
    Done.
     
    Last year their income from July - September would have been around $4.8million USD. Multiply that times 836% and you get a bit over $40m USD.
    Really not that far fetched at all considering currency conversions for the game prices in China and Korea vs. game prices in the EU and NA.
     
    EDIT: It sounds like alot more than it is when you put it into % form.



     

    And I will post this down here again for Grandpa since people can't seem to read the posts before they just jump in and *CLICK TYPE TYPE TYPE TYPE  POST MESSAGE*

  • MyDcmbr81MyDcmbr81 Member Posts: 59

    Oh and here is a story spelling out exactly what was going on with NCSoft's financials for the exact same period (July-September) in 2008.

     

    www.gamespot.com/news/6200947.html

     

    Not to hard to have a stellar rebound off of those horrendous numbers now is it?

  • BizkitNLBizkitNL Member RarePosts: 2,546

    You know something's wrong when people start dragging financial things into the fray.

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  • shylock1079shylock1079 Member Posts: 158

    Actually, I guess I didn't specify what I was trying to say.  Here I say specialize I mean there is no way to customize or take a specific path.  Sure, you can add skills later on..but I mean class specific.  I've only played up to 25, so I might have missed something.  Surely by 25 I would have had an option.  To clarify, I'm referring to skills. 

  • jotulljotull Member Posts: 256
    Originally posted by supbro


    Just relaying some fantastic news about the success of Aion in the West ;)))



    "As part of its third-quarter earnings announcement today, NCsoft said that Aion has now sold more than 500,000 units in North America and 470,000 copies in Europe. Aion's popularity propelled NCsoft to another quarter of triple-digit year-over-year gains. The Korean publisher reported revenues today that were up 112 percent to KRW166 billion ($142 million). Net income during the July-September period soared to KRW46.9 billion ($40 million), a whopping 836 percent year-over-year rise. "
     
    Straight from the horses mouth, not bad for a Korean game.
    LINK
     
     



     

    Wow.... a whole half mil in North America,  Everyone I know who bought a box is already back playing WoW....same old story a MMO "may" have initial box sales *Cough* WAR & AoC  *Cough*   but once the shiney has worn off there are a lot of unused boxes and very few subsciptions..

  • supbrosupbro Member Posts: 327
    Originally posted by jotull

    Originally posted by supbro


    Just relaying some fantastic news about the success of Aion in the West ;)))



    "As part of its third-quarter earnings announcement today, NCsoft said that Aion has now sold more than 500,000 units in North America and 470,000 copies in Europe. Aion's popularity propelled NCsoft to another quarter of triple-digit year-over-year gains. The Korean publisher reported revenues today that were up 112 percent to KRW166 billion ($142 million). Net income during the July-September period soared to KRW46.9 billion ($40 million), a whopping 836 percent year-over-year rise. "
     
    Straight from the horses mouth, not bad for a Korean game.
    LINK
     
     



     

    Wow.... a whole half mil in North America,  Everyone I know who bought a box is already back playing WoW....same old story a MMO "may" have initial box sales *Cough* WAR & AoC  *Cough*   but once the shiney has worn off there are a lot of unused boxes and very few subsciptions..

     

    Most of the ex-WoW players in my guild said they will never go back to that kiddy game ever again. They mentioned they prefer a more challenging game where you arent spponfed levels and epic gear. I guess when this very site surveyed its MMO players and WoW was rated as having the worst community of any current MMO they were completely right :)_)

    Also have fun with that Asian Cash Shop that WOW is introducing HAHAHAHAHa ... Fail game is fail.

     

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  • metalhead980metalhead980 Member Posts: 2,658

    Who gives a shit about box sales?

    Link us Aions current subscription total in NA/Euro.

    Yeah... Aions is even more worthless than WoW and it's two lackeys WAR and AOC.

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  • ScalebaneScalebane Member UncommonPosts: 1,883
    Originally posted by supbro

    Originally posted by jotull

    Originally posted by supbro


    Just relaying some fantastic news about the success of Aion in the West ;)))



    "As part of its third-quarter earnings announcement today, NCsoft said that Aion has now sold more than 500,000 units in North America and 470,000 copies in Europe. Aion's popularity propelled NCsoft to another quarter of triple-digit year-over-year gains. The Korean publisher reported revenues today that were up 112 percent to KRW166 billion ($142 million). Net income during the July-September period soared to KRW46.9 billion ($40 million), a whopping 836 percent year-over-year rise. "
     
    Straight from the horses mouth, not bad for a Korean game.
    LINK
     
     



     

    Wow.... a whole half mil in North America,  Everyone I know who bought a box is already back playing WoW....same old story a MMO "may" have initial box sales *Cough* WAR & AoC  *Cough*   but once the shiney has worn off there are a lot of unused boxes and very few subsciptions..

     

    Most of the ex-WoW players in my guild said they will never go back to that kiddy game ever again. They mentioned they prefer a more challenging game where you arent spponfed levels and epic gear. I guess when this very site surveyed its MMO players and WoW was rated as having the worst community of any current MMO they were completely right :)_)

    Also have fun with that Asian Cash Shop that WOW is introducing HAHAHAHAHa ... Fail game is fail.

     

    WoW this guy is trashing WoW when NC is practically sponsering all the gold sellers and bots in Aion that's some funny stuff right there.  Not to mention he actually thinks this game is challenging lol.  Another funny thing is him calling WoW the worst community when i keep reading from this site and other sites that the Aion community is even worse the WoW's.  funny how people see things different huh op?   I bet you think NC won't introduce a Cash Shop into Aion, guess you never seen the COH/COV game's cash shop?   Don't worry your locust guild will migrate to the next game that comes out leaving Aion to die.

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  • supbrosupbro Member Posts: 327
    Originally posted by Scalebane

    Originally posted by supbro

    Originally posted by jotull

    Originally posted by supbro


    Just relaying some fantastic news about the success of Aion in the West ;)))



    "As part of its third-quarter earnings announcement today, NCsoft said that Aion has now sold more than 500,000 units in North America and 470,000 copies in Europe. Aion's popularity propelled NCsoft to another quarter of triple-digit year-over-year gains. The Korean publisher reported revenues today that were up 112 percent to KRW166 billion ($142 million). Net income during the July-September period soared to KRW46.9 billion ($40 million), a whopping 836 percent year-over-year rise. "
     
    Straight from the horses mouth, not bad for a Korean game.
    LINK
     
     



     

    Wow.... a whole half mil in North America,  Everyone I know who bought a box is already back playing WoW....same old story a MMO "may" have initial box sales *Cough* WAR & AoC  *Cough*   but once the shiney has worn off there are a lot of unused boxes and very few subsciptions..

     

    Most of the ex-WoW players in my guild said they will never go back to that kiddy game ever again. They mentioned they prefer a more challenging game where you arent spponfed levels and epic gear. I guess when this very site surveyed its MMO players and WoW was rated as having the worst community of any current MMO they were completely right :)_)

    Also have fun with that Asian Cash Shop that WOW is introducing HAHAHAHAHa ... Fail game is fail.

     

    WoW this guy is trashing WoW when NC is practically sponsering all the gold sellers and bots in Aion that's some funny stuff right there.  Not to mention he actually thinks this game is challenging lol.  Another funny thing is him calling WoW the worst community when i keep reading from this site and other sites that the Aion community is even worse the WoW's.  funny how people see things different huh op?   I bet you think NC won't introduce a Cash Shop into Aion, guess you never seen the COH/COV game's cash shop?   Don't worry your locust guild will migrate to the next game that comes out leaving Aion to die.

     

    WOW has more RMT than any MMO combined, you might need to take those blinders off to see it. And now with their "Asian" style cash shop they are really turning F2P title - Graphically and Community wise their already there lol

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  • MMMOGIRLMMMOGIRL Member Posts: 19
    Originally posted by bloodaxes


    Ah yeah another 1 poster that registered today can't you post with your real account?

     

    Real account? I just found this site the other day. Dont you have anything better to do than to be a forum troll?

  • MMMOGIRLMMMOGIRL Member Posts: 19
    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by shamus252

    Originally posted by glofish

    Originally posted by shylock1079


    On a side note:  I think I might actually like the game in the future.  Surely they won't leave it so parochial l in terms of class specializations. I think the fact that every other Templar next to me is exactly the same is the only bum thing about it. 

     

    There are plenty of options to customize the look of you character. Height/girth/hairstyles etc. then you can dye your armor.

    What else do you need?

     

    Some of  my  guildmates have amazing outfits. The other day when we met up I was amazed, one lady was in a full blue pantsuit, the other had this orange flowing robe... I was *extremely* impressed.

     

     

     



     

    Not really. Customizing characters sucks, you can eather look like a 12yr boy or a 12yr old girl and thats about it.



     

    That's not even remotely true.

    and to mmogirl: I'm sorry you experienced lag but are you sure it's actual lag or is it your computer? In any case I have had very little lag save one of the beta events. I do sometimes have issue in cities but that's not lag. that's my computer asking me to upgrade it.

    I do agree with you on your assessment of sales. Sales are great but mean nothing in the long run. All sales show is that a lot of people were initially interested in the game. It really is more important to check back on the game in 6 months or so.

    I do think it will do well but I stand by my 250k - 300k subscriber base guess.

    Actually, it is not my computer. It is most likely Aion not optimizing their servers for North America ISPs. I say this because on the thread on Aions forum site, players with lag posted stating they are experiencing it and which ISP they had. 99% of them have Time Warner Cable, or a subsidiary of them. Ok, lets ponder on this a moment, as large a company as Time Warner is, why wasnt this near the top of Aions to-do list before releasing in North America?

    Another reason that it is not my PC, I run WoW, WarHammer and many other MMOs just fine.

    I also want to add that many people, including me kept getting disconnected from the Aion server, no matter which server I chose.

  • masterbbb26masterbbb26 Member Posts: 181

    completely justifies me calling the MMO comunity a bunch of sheep. No one wants anything new they just want simple games for children that they can play with there brosephs while they drink their coke and listen to nickelback.

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    Played and didn't like: CO, MO, STO, DF, AoC, WAR, WoW, EQ2, EVE, most f2p
    Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, Secret World

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