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I want to get but 2 questions first
jmirandaman
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I have 14 day trial and havent gotten too much into it yet. I want a P2P MMO and this is very different from all the others I have tried out. I have 2 questions before I shell out 15 dollars a month. I have been gathering some info from reviews and articles on this and I'm not crazyy about getting blown out of sky and losing everything. Yeah sure theres insurance but I keep reading how its such an inconvience when you die in this game. Sure the simple answer is to just not die but come on it will happen. Is there any safe zones so I can build up and find a helpful corp. or is this dying thing inevitable? I have never really gotten into whole pvp experience on any MMo for I am an MMO noob. My other question was is this game really only for hardcore MMO gamers> I know it has a steep learning curve and I can get over that but how do I find people I know will genuinley want to help out? Thank you for reading and any comments
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You'll die. On the plus side, you'll move on. When you buy the highest level of insurance, it will typically cover the cost of the ship (the newb ships anyway), so don't worry about that. You will lose the modules and any implants you have, though. Implants at the beginning aren't a big deal. Modules aren't too bad either since they're fairly cheap at the start of the game. Even after you've played for a long while, losing a ship isn't the end of the world. The corp I was in asked that we keep several ships for wars. Eventually you have fully decked out ships ready to go. Lose 3 or 4 in a row and you may be in bad shape, but you just fly more carefully.
As for the safe zones, you're not safe in EVE ever, but you're "safer" in the higher sec areas. If you aren't carrying super-expensive gear around in your cargo, then I wouldn't worry too much. Yeah, you can find a nice area to mine in (in high sec). Enter low sec and just watch Local for anyone you don't trust. Always be ready to fly off. Enter null sec and you'll probably know what to expect (pew pew boom).
As for getting in to a corp/alliance, there's EVE University (if they're still around; I haven't played in a few months). You can also go to the forums and find corps recruiting. I look at eve as, the more time you have on your hands, the further you'll get. Just like any MMO. If you've not got a lot of time, don't expect to progress very far since a lot of the end corps (in my experience) want you around and helping out, not just killing rats and mooching off of them. Thus the reason I took a break. On the plus side, EVE corps are like family. You become very loyal to them.
The only place in Eve where your garaunteed total safety is
Docked inside a station.
Hisec is safer due to concord (space police) but like police in the real world they do nothing to prevent crime, they only respond to it occuring. often just as slowly.
death in eve is a minor inconvenience, and often the consequences of it happening are over exagerated
eve can quite easily be played on casual basis, it only gets 'hardcore' if you want it to.
the learning curve isn't quite as steep as people make out, the skill system is quite complex however
download (in the stickies at top of this forum) either evemon & eve fitting tool or just eve-hq and use these tools to work out what you need to train, and what you can ignore
the player ran channel "help my mission" is a pretty good way of getting help when your in over your head.
when in space, in the top left of the screen there is some system information. 1.0 to 0.5 is high sec space. there are laws that protect you. but if you steal (take something not yours) or shoot someone (cos they stole from you) people can shoot you.
0.4 to 0.1 is low sec, with very limited policing (automated gate and station guns) quite unsafe, you will get a pop up warning before you enter, asking are sure? (read the pop ups)
then there is 0.0 or null sec, the only security comes from other players.
2nd, yes there are plenty of people that will help. ask here if no where else.
oops and i forgot, update your clone get a disposable ship and head out to the depths of 0.o get blown up and podded. it doesn't hurt that much if you plan it right.
On a side note, if you actually step out of safe space and live in lo-sec or 0.0 for a while, the techniques, experience and confidence you will acquire will make dying pretty much optional. It is remarkably easy to move around safely if you know what you're doing. Today I recovered a jump clone with some good implants that kind of got left behind when my alliance moved to a different part of the map. I ran straight from PF- in Venal (NPC sovereignty 0.0) straight to Torrinos in hi-sec - in an unfitted noobship. ~25 0.0 jumps... the last one being through the notorious EC-P8R system.
Stuff like that is one of the reasons that I advise people to get out of hi-sec as soon as possible. Gaining SP and ISK are great, and necessary, but player skill in actually playing the game is much more so. I literally cannot remember the last time I got ganked, and I spend the majority of my time very actively in 0.0.
Give me liberty or give me lasers
I wouldnt pay too much attention to the scare stories.
There is plenty of safe space for you to learn the game and build up some money. There are plenty of Corporations out there which are well known for helping newbies (Eve university)
But you could just stay in the starting corp and chat with people there, there will be other new players there and most do not have an agena other than yours.
Actually once you get to know the mechanics of eve, dying isnt inevitable its just a case of being aware and planning. Yes you will lose ships! But you wont lose the knowledge you have gained, and the friends you make.
Losing a ship in eve will be as bad as you plan for it to be, or I should say don't plan on it to be. There is a common saying in eve don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Basically that means don't waste your entire wallet on one ship. If you lose it your hit big time. Now if you can afford to buy 5 of the same ship with the same fittings losing one doesn't kill you or hurt nearly that bad. So the idea is plan ahead for the possibility of losing your ship it makes it much easier to do it.
you'll probably die a few times, remember to try and learn something each time, the aggresion mechanics in eve are a little complicated so you'll probably die once or twice from them until you learn enough to stay safe. Odds are you'll also be scammed once or twice too, there's plenty of scams out there always be careful about that. You gotta pay some attention while playing to make sure you don't get yourself killed, just be careful and for the love of god stay out of the crowded systems the more people the more gankers and scammers and griefers.
Also it's one of the games where it's OK if you can't play all the time. If you have to stop for a couple weeks thanks to exams, work, beer festival or whatever your character will keep on learning and all your stuff will be there when you come back. It does however require some more time and attention to get the best out of the game but still playable on a few horus a week.
Into the breach meatbags