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My Impression of Alganon

skarwolfskarwolf Member CommonPosts: 245

 Remember back when Transformers first came out.  They sold out quickly and were hard to come by.  Out came all the poor imitations, in particular when the Dinobots first arrived they sold out everywhere.  I went to a local bargain store and noticed all these imitation dinobots.  Looked exactly the same as the real toys but they were no name yet less then half the price.  

Bugged my parents and bought one, I didn't care if it was an imitation I wanted the dinobot so badly.  Get it out of the box, begin to change it from the dinosaur to robot... it breaks.  It looked the same yet it was anything but, original dinobots were well made with some steel and hard plastic.  This entire fake was all plastic that was brittle.  I got my money back.

Now take that into consideration when you read all the comparisons of this game to WOW.

It looks like WOW, it tries to borrow from WOW as they claim, probably hoping that will lure you in but let me tell you this it is anything but WOW.  I'm no WOW fanboy, I don't even play it anymore but I did beta test WOW when it went open beta and this game is nowhere near as polished.

I tried to look at it without thinking of WOW but there it was upon logging in.  Everything reminded me of WOW except it was like playing a laggy, buggy, crashing once in awhile incomplete version of WOW.  This game is supposed to be released soon ?  The animations were horrible although the environment looked nice.  I went exploring but grew bored after the first zone I entered looked exactly like the barrens, then I arrived at a village that looked exactly like the crossroads...

Anyways that was probably the shortest beta test I've participated in before uninstalling it.

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  • LorkLork Member Posts: 338

    More of a rant than an impression.

     

    Gotta change your avatar btw.

  • kriebloodkrieblood Member Posts: 223
    Originally posted by skarwolf


     Remember back when Transformers first came out.  They sold out quickly and were hard to come by.  Out came all the poor imitations, in particular when the Dinobots first arrived they sold out everywhere.  I went to a local bargain store and noticed all these imitation dinobots.  Looked exactly the same as the real toys but they were no name yet less then half the price.  
    Bugged my parents and bought one, I didn't care if it was an imitation I wanted the dinobot so badly.  Get it out of the box, begin to change it from the dinosaur to robot... it breaks.  It looked the same yet it was anything but, original dinobots were well made with some steel and hard plastic.  This entire fake was all plastic that was brittle.  I got my money back.
    Now take that into consideration when you read all the comparisons of this game to WOW.
    It looks like WOW, it tries to borrow from WOW as they claim, probably hoping that will lure you in but let me tell you this it is anything but WOW.  I'm no WOW fanboy, I don't even play it anymore but I did beta test WOW when it went open beta and this game is nowhere near as polished.
    I tried to look at it without thinking of WOW but there it was upon logging in.  Everything reminded me of WOW except it was like playing a laggy, buggy, crashing once in awhile incomplete version of WOW.  This game is supposed to be released soon ?  The animations were horrible although the environment looked nice.  I went exploring but grew bored after the first zone I entered looked exactly like the barrens, then I arrived at a village that looked exactly like the crossroads...
    Anyways that was probably the shortest beta test I've participated in before uninstalling it.

     

    This can be said for Both Alganon and Allods lol it cracks me up how much they "Borrow".

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  • RednecksithRednecksith Member Posts: 1,238

    That's actually a really good way of putting it! Well done, if a bit too rant-ish.

    Oh, and Allods may borrow heavily from WoW, but at least it's got a few original ideas, a nice art style, and is more polished in [i]closed[/i] beta than Alganon will probably be at launch. Plus, it's free. So nobody's out forty bucks + monthly fees if it crashes & burns. Which is the real issue; Alganon probably wouldn't get so much flak if it were F2P.

  • metallihammetalliham Member Posts: 94

    Wow, you made it to the first town in the first zone! Grats!

    What about the quests? PvP? Crafting? Social? Dungeons? Community? Classes?

    My impression is that your impression isn't much of an impression.

  • grndzrogrndzro Member UncommonPosts: 1,163

    Unfortunately my imperession of Alganon is worse than my Impression of Allods which is pretty p poor.

    Client kept crashing on me, and the text seemed like it was made for viewing @ 800x600.

    No customization options, Poorly done models. I couldn't even bear with it long enough to play.

  • TheDarzinTheDarzin Member Posts: 219
    Originally posted by metalliham


    Wow, you made it to the first town in the first zone! Grats!
    What about the quests? PvP? Crafting? Social? Dungeons? Community? Classes?
    My impression is that your impression isn't much of an impression.

     

    The quests are quests, there is nothing special -- at level 15 you do the same kill x of these to get some small reward and xp, or gather x of this.

    There is no PvP so that is a moot point.

    There are no dungeons until The Dawning is completed which could take up to 2 months or more.

    The community is non-existent currently. Yes, they have a social networking site... but if you are playing an MMO, do you really need to social network at the same time? If so, it should be a feature in the game not on an external website.

    Crafting is exactly like Warcraft.

    Classes.... well the Soldier is a Warrior, the Healer is a Priest, the Ranger is a Druid and the Magus is a Mage that for some inexplicable reason can tank...

    Does that cover all the bases?

  • jamigrejamigre Member UncommonPosts: 280

     This crap won't even install on a machine running win 7, says it needs DX9, when you try and bypass it, it quits, and if you click install, it extracts DX9 and then crashes. YEY!!!! And mind you I've got a few other MMO's and games installed and Nooo... problemos otherwise. 

    That said David Allen is a total hack, for those who remember Horizons way back when the original concept of the game was nothing like the game Istaria is now, the guy literally had thousands upon thousands of people waiting for the thing to change the mmo world. What'd Allen finally release a PvE EQ clone, and a crap one at that, same can be said here. I mean a game thats about to launch and won't even install. You must be joking.... I haven't heard of anything like that since Anarchy Online 1st came out. 

    I'll give it another go on the installation front, and see if I can get it running and give it a go, though I'm really not expecting much. Especially after the Horizons debacle, and some of the reviews coming out about this game. 

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  • AthcearAthcear Member Posts: 420

    Ya know how people sometimes make flash versions of old SNES games?  They look the same, but they're not all that smooth and have bugs and errors and clipping issues.  This is where Alganon stands against MMOs.  It's the cheap flash imitation.  And by cheap, I mean they're going to charge the same as the top games in the genre for a shoddy product.  This game isn't even fun enough to seriously beta test, let alone buy.

    Important facts:
    1. Free to Play games are poorly made.
    2. Casuals are not all idiots, but idiots call themselves casuals.
    3. Great solo and group content are not mutually exclusive, but they suffer when one is shoved into the mold of the other. The same is true of PvP and PvE.
    4. Community is more important than you think.

  • xenoracexenorace Member UncommonPosts: 205

    L0L. Algan0n is a j0ke....there is an impressi0n f0r ya.

    T0 even c0mpair Algan0n t0 All0ds is laughable. By far All0ds is n0where near gr0und breaking in design, but it's very p0lished, very p0lished f0r a f2p mm0.

    Want a huge sign that let's y0u kn0w h0w bad Algan0n is....there are still alm0st 9,000 beta keys left after a full business week. M0st 0ther MM0's keys w0uld be vap0r by then.

     

     

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  • lashabanelashabane Member UncommonPosts: 29

    Both games are in Beta.  Let me say that again for emphasis: Beta.  Impression?  What kind of impression can you get from a game that is still in the design and implementation phase?  This kind of stuff cracks me up, really it does.  I can't imagine someone even thinking they should post something like this because it does NOTHING to further the MMO industry.

  • mrcalhoumrcalhou Member UncommonPosts: 1,444
    Originally posted by xenorace


    L0L. Algan0n is a j0ke....there is an impressi0n f0r ya.


    T0 even c0mpair Algan0n t0 All0ds is laughable. By far All0ds is n0where near gr0und breaking in design, but it's very p0lished, very p0lished f0r a f2p mm0.


    Want a huge sign that let's y0u kn0w h0w bad Algan0n is....there are still alm0st 9,000 beta keys left after a full business week. M0st 0ther MM0's keys w0uld be vap0r by then.
     
     

     

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  • BrianshoBriansho Member UncommonPosts: 3,586

    World of Warcraft is to Transformers as Alganon is to Gobots?

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  • grndzrogrndzro Member UncommonPosts: 1,163
    Originally posted by lashabane


    Both games are in Beta.  Let me say that again for emphasis: Beta.  Impression?  What kind of impression can you get from a game that is still in the design and implementation phase?  This kind of stuff cracks me up, really it does.  I can't imagine someone even thinking they should post something like this because it does NOTHING to further the MMO industry.

     

    Beta...right? You know what beta is.....Right...Right?

    Beta is basically a release candidate. it's what Development companies call them when they are 95% ready for the consumer market.  Minor gfx tweaks, Performance tweaks, Load Balancing, Stress test, Also some minor Development and fleshing out.

    Alganon seems like an Alpha release, Which are mostly feature complete as far as mechanics go but far from feature complete. This is the Phase Design and Implimentation is in along with Pre Alpha. 

    From what I'v seen this game needs at least 6 more months of development to even leave Alpha.

  • QuailmanQuailman Member Posts: 165
    Originally posted by Lork


    More of a rant than an impression.
     
    Gotta change your avatar btw.

    Nonsense! It just means more people get to see Alex Grey's work.

    www.alexgrey.com/

    Such an amazing artist.

     

    Err, sorry to go off topic, couldn't resist.

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  • Branko2307Branko2307 Member UncommonPosts: 346

    Comparing Allods with Alganon is like comparing Dragon Age: Origins with Tetris...

     

    Iwe played Alganon 3 minutes and it was by far worst 3 minutes in a mmorpg i  had since i played Dark & Light LOL

     

    The game is total mess, graphic lag is so bad without even any1 beside me...while in Allods iwe had 20 ppl around me all casting and doing stuff and i had 0 lag with all graphics to max.

     

     

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  • xenoracexenorace Member UncommonPosts: 205
    Originally posted by mrcalhou

    Originally posted by xenorace


    L0L. Algan0n is a j0ke....there is an impressi0n f0r ya.


    T0 even c0mpair Algan0n t0 All0ds is laughable. By far All0ds is n0where near gr0und breaking in design, but it's very p0lished, very p0lished f0r a f2p mm0.


    Want a huge sign that let's y0u kn0w h0w bad Algan0n is....there are still alm0st 9,000 beta keys left after a full business week. M0st 0ther MM0's keys w0uld be vap0r by then.
     
     

     

    A zero isn't an O.

    y0u get a g0ld star f0r kn0wing the difference!

    My "0h" key is br0ke. G0t a new keyb0ard shipping t0 me right n0w.

    Algan0n seri0usly plays like an alpha, there is n0thing ab0ut this beta that w0uld c0nvince me 0r any 0ther pers0n that this game is ready t0 start accepting payment. Supp0rting a game that might have p0ti0nal is 0ne thing, but supp0rting a game that is a carb0n c0py 0f an0ther is silly. The interview with the direct0r explaining why the game l00ks s0 identical t0 W0W is laughable. He sh0uldn't be all0wed t0 lead an0ther dev team t0 make any m0re games after this.

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  • OmaliOmali MMO Business CorrespondentMember UncommonPosts: 1,177
    Originally posted by jamigre


     This crap won't even install on a machine running win 7, says it needs DX9, when you try and bypass it, it quits, and if you click install, it extracts DX9 and then crashes. YEY!!!! And mind you I've got a few other MMO's and games installed and Nooo... problemos otherwise. 
    That said David Allen is a total hack, for those who remember Horizons way back when the original concept of the game was nothing like the game Istaria is now, the guy literally had thousands upon thousands of people waiting for the thing to change the mmo world. What'd Allen finally release a PvE EQ clone, and a crap one at that, same can be said here. I mean a game thats about to launch and won't even install. You must be joking.... I haven't heard of anything like that since Anarchy Online 1st came out. 
    I'll give it another go on the installation front, and see if I can get it running and give it a go, though I'm really not expecting much. Especially after the Horizons debacle, and some of the reviews coming out about this game. 

    I installed it on Windows 7, and it worked fine.

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  • metalhead980metalhead980 Member Posts: 2,658
    Originally posted by xenorace


    L0L. Algan0n is a j0ke....there is an impressi0n f0r ya.


    T0 even c0mpair Algan0n t0 All0ds is laughable. By far All0ds is n0where near gr0und breaking in design, but it's very p0lished, very p0lished f0r a f2p mm0.


    Want a huge sign that let's y0u kn0w h0w bad Algan0n is....there are still alm0st 9,000 beta keys left after a full business week. M0st 0ther MM0's keys w0uld be vap0r by then.
     
     

    Its a pretty bad game. one of the only good qualities of the game is that the world looks nice. Much better than most f2p mmos

     

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  • SynthetickSynthetick Member Posts: 977
    Originally posted by xenorace

    Originally posted by mrcalhou

    Originally posted by xenorace


    L0L. Algan0n is a j0ke....there is an impressi0n f0r ya.


    T0 even c0mpair Algan0n t0 All0ds is laughable. By far All0ds is n0where near gr0und breaking in design, but it's very p0lished, very p0lished f0r a f2p mm0.


    Want a huge sign that let's y0u kn0w h0w bad Algan0n is....there are still alm0st 9,000 beta keys left after a full business week. M0st 0ther MM0's keys w0uld be vap0r by then.
     
     

     

    A zero isn't an O.

    y0u get a g0ld star f0r kn0wing the difference!

    My "0h" key is br0ke. G0t a new keyb0ard shipping t0 me right n0w.

    Algan0n seri0usly plays like an alpha, there is n0thing ab0ut this beta that w0uld c0nvince me 0r any 0ther pers0n that this game is ready t0 start accepting payment. Supp0rting a game that might have p0ti0nal is 0ne thing, but supp0rting a game that is a carb0n c0py 0f an0ther is silly. The interview with the direct0r explaining why the game l00ks s0 identical t0 W0W is laughable. He sh0uldn't be all0wed t0 lead an0ther dev team t0 make any m0re games after this.

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  • gnomad1gnomad1 Member Posts: 151
    Originally posted by Synthetick

    Originally posted by xenorace

    Originally posted by mrcalhou

    Originally posted by xenorace


    L0L. Algan0n is a j0ke....there is an impressi0n f0r ya.


    T0 even c0mpair Algan0n t0 All0ds is laughable. By far All0ds is n0where near gr0und breaking in design, but it's very p0lished, very p0lished f0r a f2p mm0.


    Want a huge sign that let's y0u kn0w h0w bad Algan0n is....there are still alm0st 9,000 beta keys left after a full business week. M0st 0ther MM0's keys w0uld be vap0r by then.
     
     

     

    A zero isn't an O.

    y0u get a g0ld star f0r kn0wing the difference!

    My "0h" key is br0ke. G0t a new keyb0ard shipping t0 me right n0w.

    Algan0n seri0usly plays like an alpha, there is n0thing ab0ut this beta that w0uld c0nvince me 0r any 0ther pers0n that this game is ready t0 start accepting payment. Supp0rting a game that might have p0ti0nal is 0ne thing, but supp0rting a game that is a carb0n c0py 0f an0ther is silly. The interview with the direct0r explaining why the game l00ks s0 identical t0 W0W is laughable. He sh0uldn't be all0wed t0 lead an0ther dev team t0 make any m0re games after this.

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    Isn't there an on-screen keyboard? 0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o snap son.

    Better question is where does someone live that they can't get an inexpensive computer keyboard within an hour?

    Must be some really remote backwoods third world country that doesn't even have internet access to be that equipment limited.

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  • xenoracexenorace Member UncommonPosts: 205

    I live in very p0pulated area. I d0n't buy any electr0nics retail, and have n0t f0r years. I w0uld rather wait 3 days t0 just have 0ne shipped t0 me....like n0w. I have the patience 0f a m0nk.

    Isn't this a l0t 0ff t0pic btw?

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  • BlazzBlazz Member Posts: 321
    Originally posted by xenorace


    I live in very p0pulated area. I d0n't buy any electr0nics retail, and have n0t f0r years. I w0uld rather wait 3 days t0 just have 0ne shipped t0 me....like n0w. I have the patience 0f a m0nk.


    Isn't this a l0t 0ff t0pic btw?

     

    Very.

     

    Anyway, I haven't really played the game. I've been "playing" it like EvE - setting up my studies, then logging out, haha.

    I am playing EVE and it's alright... level V skills are a bit much.

    You all need to learn to spell.

  • vladakovvladakov Member Posts: 710
    Originally posted by krieblood

    Originally posted by skarwolf


     Remember back when Transformers first came out.  They sold out quickly and were hard to come by.  Out came all the poor imitations, in particular when the Dinobots first arrived they sold out everywhere.  I went to a local bargain store and noticed all these imitation dinobots.  Looked exactly the same as the real toys but they were no name yet less then half the price.  
    Bugged my parents and bought one, I didn't care if it was an imitation I wanted the dinobot so badly.  Get it out of the box, begin to change it from the dinosaur to robot... it breaks.  It looked the same yet it was anything but, original dinobots were well made with some steel and hard plastic.  This entire fake was all plastic that was brittle.  I got my money back.
    Now take that into consideration when you read all the comparisons of this game to WOW.
    It looks like WOW, it tries to borrow from WOW as they claim, probably hoping that will lure you in but let me tell you this it is anything but WOW.  I'm no WOW fanboy, I don't even play it anymore but I did beta test WOW when it went open beta and this game is nowhere near as polished.
    I tried to look at it without thinking of WOW but there it was upon logging in.  Everything reminded me of WOW except it was like playing a laggy, buggy, crashing once in awhile incomplete version of WOW.  This game is supposed to be released soon ?  The animations were horrible although the environment looked nice.  I went exploring but grew bored after the first zone I entered looked exactly like the barrens, then I arrived at a village that looked exactly like the crossroads...
    Anyways that was probably the shortest beta test I've participated in before uninstalling it.

     

    This can be said for Both Alganon and Allods lol it cracks me up how much they "Borrow".

    you even tried the Allods beta? its less WoWy then most people think, it has its own sort of  `uniqueness´ when you play it, very different from screenshots... 

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  • skarwolfskarwolf Member CommonPosts: 245
    Originally posted by grndzro

    Originally posted by lashabane


    Both games are in Beta.  Let me say that again for emphasis: Beta.  Impression?  What kind of impression can you get from a game that is still in the design and implementation phase?  This kind of stuff cracks me up, really it does.  I can't imagine someone even thinking they should post something like this because it does NOTHING to further the MMO industry.

     

    Beta...right? You know what beta is.....Right...Right?

    Beta is basically a release candidate. it's what Development companies call them when they are 95% ready for the consumer market.  Minor gfx tweaks, Performance tweaks, Load Balancing, Stress test, Also some minor Development and fleshing out.

    Alganon seems like an Alpha release, Which are mostly feature complete as far as mechanics go but far from feature complete. This is the Phase Design and Implimentation is in along with Pre Alpha. 

    From what I'v seen this game needs at least 6 more months of development to even leave Alpha.

     

    I've beta tested plenty of games from early alpha, closed to open beta.  All of them were much more polished in closed alpha stage then this one is now.  I'll predict what happens with this game.

    They'll have to change everything a great deal to avoid a lawsuit from blizzard anyways.  

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  • keolienkeolien Member Posts: 198

    Here is my rant about alganon.

    Install went very smooth and fast, I think I was downloading at about 1-1.5mb per sec. When starting the client it takes forever for some of the textures to load, such as small trees and shrubs which is wierd cause I have a great computer. Logging in seems to take about 3-5minutes for me, I can create a character but after I hit play It says connecting to the world for about 3minutes and says you have been disconnected from the server. Thats as far as I have gotten.

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