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Silvarea
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The possibility of a class action lawsuit againist an MMO operator without getting banned in the appropiate forum?, namely the game name forum of the offending company..
I would like to see this open to the users here as we are the customers flat being riped off in some cases and taken advantage of in others..
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"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
Interesting, I don't know what policy is, but I, myself, am very interested in what you have to say. I do wonder how this would go over with the Admins here at MMORPG.com, and I'm sure if they do allow you to post, alot of people will probably be interested in the discussion.
This is where I put some wierd trademark for myself, well my trademark is a picture of me owning you.
Should I venture a guess and assume you're referring to WoW?
I don't know exactly how the Admins would feel about this, but I would be willing to venture a bet that they would discourage discusstions of such matters. Considering that it would not only anger the developer that is producting the game you intend to act against, but it would as well raise attention from other game developers if they were to become aware that said discusstions were on the verge of become actions. Understandably if you wish to do something of that nature, it is your desition but this site would be viewed as condoneing such actions if it allowed open discussions of how and who else would like to file for a lawsuit against said developer.
On a side note, if your intentions are against Vivendi the developers of WoW I hope you do some research, because if your just some angry customer who is mad because your realm is up 98% of the time and isnt up 100% of the time and is overpopulated so you have to wait in queue you will get laughed at not only by the judge you file your claim with but by Vivendi as well.
Your scathing wit and daring insight into the turbulent political crags of the internet are shining beacons of truth and purity for the slight remaining masses of visionless hypocriticial sheep who bleat at the thought of your glory
*shrug*
I assume the ''how'' matter more then the ''what''.
MMORPG did put in their news Marvel and Mythic Lawsuits against NCsoft & Microsoft.
Here look like a neutral ground, the stuff is related to a MMORPG.
''How'' you are doing it is the real question. Expect 85% fanbois, 10% off topic and 5% others more constructive.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
no where in the rules of conduct does it say you cannot discuss this. i would say, yes it is safe to post it and i would like to know what it is myself. but, you will have to make a very strong case and get a lot of petitions for this to work, or as stated before "they will laugh at you".
"I fear no enemy! For the Khala is my strength! I fear not death. For our strength is eternal!" - Fenix
I'm intrigued. I would say yes just out of curiosity. Which game are we talking about here? EQ2 and Sony? WoW and Blizz? Something and someone else?
Not sure how the mods or the offending game companies would reacte to it as someone else mentioned though, so I'll say just to tread carefully.
Well I hope a mod or person of interest will weigh in on the post , as in MMORPG people
Thanks all that have replied.. Was just a question I wanted to ask.. And as I said just a discussion (sp) not an action..
What I'd like to see are states pass laws to protect consumers more then my suggestion..
I dont think anyone still has a slightest clue about what the heck you're talking about.
If you wanted to use our boards to discuss starting a class action lawsuit I can't see that as a violation of our RoC. I would just encourage you to keep it civil and professional. You would also never get an endorsement of such a thing from MMORPG.com.
Personally I can't think of a single game company that I know of who deserves such a thing...but to each is own I guess.
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Funcom, AI expansion was not worth $30 for expansion, box price for an additional 2% content, total BS
I would REALLY like to see some prejudicing cases on this.
As far as I know UO is the only game that got sued by a player and that did not fly trough.
But in all honesty original poster is correct, mmorpg's are borderline venturing into scam areas and I am quite sure one could stick a lawsuit to most any of them, problem is you need a buttload of cash to do so.
In ANY other bussiness the behavior displayed by most of the mmo companys would be conidered baaaad business but also would probably put them out of business.
I am amazed how much crap we can actually take.
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I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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Actually, I think I remember some lawsuit against the makers of Lineage in which the player actually won the suit. This was not through the US Legal system, it was in some other country.
Couldn't agree more!
So what are you talking about???
You can say that some game sucks if you really think that.
But dont be a fanny manny in here.
Example of banned post:
Wow zukkorz
Wow zukkorz
guguguuuu!!!
Yes wow really sucks
Example of a real discuss:
I think that wow is bad game.
And something about it here, blah blah blah...
Example of a real post:
I think that wow is from arse
Still not sure who we are talking about here. Nevertheless, unless you have evidence of faulty billing or something like that I doubt you would stand much of a chance.
Remember that agreement that you had to accept before you played the game? The one most people never read? That wasn't written by the company, it was written by their lawyers. Basicly, it says they can do pretty much whatever they want without giving you any sort of notice whatsoever. There's usually even a clause that says you agree not to sue them. I suggest you go back and read that very carefully before you go any further.
Good luck!
I've even seen some EULAs that go so far as to basically say (paraphrased) "You don't really own this software, we own it, and we control it. We let you use it, and can sue you if you don't use it as we tell you to."
And that was on a program I paid a couple hundred dollars for. Nice of them to let me buy something I don't even own.
Yeah, I like how a lot of people completely ignore the EULA. These companies and business's write these things for a reason.
I mean, if you invested millions of dollars into a game/program/software/anything, wouldnt you make out some legal documents justifying and preventing any kind of BS to come your way? Cause as we all know, their are millions of idiots out there ( look who is Pres. of USA ) and they are all going to find a way to screw you over!
The point is, you watch your back dont you? So why shouldnt we expect companies who encounter a lot more risks than we do on a daily basis, to watch their backs?
"I fear no enemy! For the Khala is my strength! I fear not death. For our strength is eternal!" - Fenix
Actully in most cases the EULA isn't a binding agreement. They have been challanged in courts a few times, and they didn't hold up. It would really depend on what nation/state you are from. In alot of them if you read the very last line, it will say "except in xxx" because in those areas, they don't even have a pretext of being effective.
As for the lineage case a earlier poster was talking about, the only one I know of was not a class-action suit. It was a man who got hacked, and sued saying that he did own those items. The judge ruled that because of the large time investment, that he did infact own the items. This was not in America. If I remember correctly, it was China.
PK4U, I beleve that was in the game "Redmoon Online" in which that happen, the guy lost a lot of items due to a hacking exploit, sued the company because he infact spent time to get those items and deserved them to be reimbursed, and the judge ruled in favor of the plantiff because of the companies security loopholes. This was from China of course.
So yea, people have sued MMORPG companies before, but mainly in Asia, where the courts are more lenient to MMORPG players because of the sheer amount of people playing them.