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Why do people "steal kills"???
Johnark
Member Posts: 901
What kind of stupid ideas passes through the mind of these retarded Ex-Diablo 2 players when you are killing a creature, only 1 creature, you are not dying, the creature has less than 10% of it's health left, someone runs towards you, starts killing the creature with you, creature dies, then the person runs off?
You send them a tell asking why did they do something so stupid and useless, and they reply back with: "I was trying to help you." or "Sorry" ???
Why does different people do this every day, 2-10 times per day?
Then you ask yourself why people like this don't "help you" when you are dying, running away from the creature, and people just stand there not doing anything to help.
In Combat, whoever deals the most % of damage to the creature is the person that will obtain the loot. If you attack a creature with just 10% left of health and the original person attacking has dealth 90% of the total damage, only the person that dealt 90% of damage can loot the corpse.
So why act like an immature ex-diablo 2 dumbass and "help" someone when they didn't?
To steal XP? Cause they are mentally retarded in real life and think they were actually helpful? To make themselves look "cool" cause they dealt the final blow?
I don't get it. Do you? And if you are one of these people, you are anoying. If WoW was open-PVP, I'd kick your @ss just cause of your stupidity.
And I play on Earthern Ring, a roleplaying server, if you enjoy roleplaying an idiot, I'm scared to see how you are in real life too.
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Stealth - Ambush - Hemorrhage - Sinister Strike x2 - Cold Blood - Eviscerate - Vanish - Preparation - Cold Blood - Ambush - ... you're dead! :P
Comments
Yup.
If someone engages a mob that you already hit first, they're helping you gain XP and loot whether they intended to or not.
I like to occasionally wade in with a couple of hits or throw a DOT as I pass someone fighting.
Is this post a joke?
Someone warped enough that they assume if someone strikes a mob they are on they are trying to "steal" it in a game where that is impossible?
Let's sum up your argument.
1. People who try to try to steal kills are retarded ex-diablo 2 players.
2. Stealing kills is impossible but they must not have figured it out yet.
3. Helping someone else with a mob is stupid and useless because you don't personally gain from it.
4. People who do things with no tangible benefit for themselves are immature ex-diablo 2 dumbasses
5. They certainly must be trying to steal xp
6. I don't get it (this is probably the only correct statement in your argument)
7. If you are one of these people you annoy me and I want to kick your ass because your stupid.
8. I'm scared to see how stupid you are in real life.
Wow that was alot of fun to analyze. Johnark I'm not sure what to tell you so I'll just end with...
I'm sure Earthern Ring is glad to have you, stay the hell away from Dunemaul. Also please stop to read what your writing before posting, your lowering the perceived IQ of mmorpg users and thus may be scaring away potential newcomers to the forums (noone wants to associate with morons).
WARNING: Spelling and grammatical errors intentionally left in document to test for Anal Retentive Trolls.
"The key to wasting time is distraction. Without distractions it's too obvious to your brain that you're not doing anything with it, and you start to feel uncomfortable." - Paul Graham http://paulgraham.com/hs.html
Well thats Retarded why does WoW allow such a way to powere Level? Its already easy to LvL in this game.
Well thats Retarded why does WoW allow such a way to powere Level? Its already easy to LvL in this game.
Because there is more to do in WoW than simply level grind. Don't worry, we understand your confusion and don't hold your choice in games against you. Now run along back to the EQ2 forums.
WARNING: Spelling and grammatical errors intentionally left in document to test for Anal Retentive Trolls.
"The key to wasting time is distraction. Without distractions it's too obvious to your brain that you're not doing anything with it, and you start to feel uncomfortable." - Paul Graham http://paulgraham.com/hs.html
Well thats Retarded why does WoW allow such a way to powere Level? Its already easy to LvL in this game.
So you'd rather have kill-stealing?
ROFL! Gotta love it!!
I once got agroed by elite mob too, and then i see a horde came along attacking me, so being a rogue I vanished and got the mob attack horde isntead, then I only cheapshot few sinisters and at last hit his kidney for a perfect stun and then i wiped the floor with his dead lifeless body. I show GNOMERCY!
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
Uh its because you play WoW dude. You know..the game with the community full of assholes looking for a place to happen :P Get used to it.
Uh its because you play WoW dude. You know..the game with the community full of assholes looking for a place to happen :P Get used to it.
Your post only proves your lack of knowledge about WoW.
To make it clear to everyone... YOU CANT KILL STEAL in WoW. Whoever attacks the mob first, gets the credit for killing it and gets to loot it. The only ting that will make you loose your "claim" to that specific mob is if you:
- die
- run away far enough
- dont hit that mob for about 20-30 seconds (this realy works well only with a mob that is way under your level, it wont be able to hit u so it will run back in frustration and anger)
- use skills that will clear your agro EX hunters feignt, Rogues vanish
- use items that will clear your agro EX cloaking device etc
Think i got them all.
once again, nobody can KS you. Whoever hits the mob first, gets the full exp, credit for the kill and loot rights. It is not uncommon to see a low level player accompanied with a higher level player (ungrouped) to finish a specific tough quest or kill a tough monster for the low level player to get the credit for it. All he has to do is score one succesfull hit/spell and the other guy can kill that mob.
The person who was commenting about powerleveling, I was worried about this as well, but as experience showed me, this rarely happen. Why? Why do people powerlevel? They powerlevel becuase they want to skip hours and hours of endless boring grind... And since nobody powerlevels in WoW that proves that WoW is not boring, but fun. Why grind when you are having much fun leveling just as it is?
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
Uh its because you play WoW dude. You know..the game with the community full of assholes looking for a place to happen :P Get used to it.
Dude ur such a troll its not even funny, ur posts are getting useless and are just wasting boards space. Go back to ur POS Matrix Online if its such a good game and quit bugging us.
[quote]Originally posted by Valarauk
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Because there is more to do in WoW than simply level grind. Don't worry, we understand your confusion and don't hold your choice in games against you. Now run along back to the EQ2 forums.
Ive never played Eq or Eq 2 i just cant figure out how to get this cig off ROFL!
why people do it? no idea, cant help you there
but WoW did make a nice system to prevent people from comeing and attacking something you attacked and getting xp/loot
the problem begins when the number of monsters is limited and you compete with someone on having the first hit... try it with a druid, he will moonfire and get each and every mob that spawn.. if you get the second hit you'd even probably have to kill the monster(as you did more damage then the tiny insta moonfire did) and he will get the xp/loot
no matter what way a game choose(outdamaging, first hit, last hit) everything can be abused, tho i like WoW system the most.....
time to ejucate the people?
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im Drunklight! *hic*
Uh its because you play WoW dude. You know..the game with the community full of assholes looking for a place to happen :P Get used to it.
Your post only proves your lack of knowledge about WoW.
To make it clear to everyone... YOU CANT KILL STEAL in WoW. Whoever attacks the mob first, gets the credit for killing it and gets to loot it. The only ting that will make you loose your "claim" to that specific mob is if you:
- die
- run away far enough
- dont hit that mob for about 20-30 seconds (this realy works well only with a mob that is way under your level, it wont be able to hit u so it will run back in frustration and anger)
- use skills that will clear your agro EX hunters feignt, Rogues vanish
- use items that will clear your agro EX cloaking device etc
Think i got them all.
once again, nobody can KS you. Whoever hits the mob first, gets the full exp, credit for the kill and loot rights. It is not uncommon to see a low level player accompanied with a higher level player (ungrouped) to finish a specific tough quest or kill a tough monster for the low level player to get the credit for it. All he has to do is score one succesfull hit/spell and the other guy can kill that mob.
The person who was commenting about powerleveling, I was worried about this as well, but as experience showed me, this rarely happen. Why? Why do people powerlevel? They powerlevel becuase they want to skip hours and hours of endless boring grind... And since nobody powerlevels in WoW that proves that WoW is not boring, but fun. Why grind when you are having much fun leveling just as it is?
It's not how the game handles it, its the motivation of the player. The playerl ikely had no intention of 'helping' him -- he was just trying to be an annoyance, thus my comment. See past your own nose.
I thought there was some code in WoW that made no experience come from a kill if the killer was too much higher than the engager. Is that not the case?
Huh? Intentions? Are you saying his intentions were to KS him in a game that has no KSing??? Are you typing this from a mental institution?
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
Yeah that's right. You get zero XP if a mob is more than five levels lower than you.
In response to the original post :
People like you should be put on an island apart from the rest of the world.
Yeah that's right. You get zero XP if a mob is more than five levels lower than you.
I think what he meant is if I am level 20, i engage a level 20 mob and a level 60 comes in and deals massive dmg and kills the mob.
I havent tested this with PCs but if its same as NPCs, then you loose some exp. I tested this by pulling a mob to NPC guard, and i noticed that if i deal little dmg i get about half exp. This doesnt realy serve any good exping purposes, but its a good tactic if u r trying to kill a hard mob for loot.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
Huh? Intentions? Are you saying his intentions were to KS him in a game that has no KSing??? Are you typing this from a mental institution?
It's a KS, even if it nets him no benefit, it causes some level of annoyance in the other player. This is called griefing, pleasure drawn from pissing off others in video games. When it ruins the persons XPing, or what have you it only adds to it. WoW protects from beneficial KSing but some peopel still do it just for the hell of it. The quesiton here is are YOU typing from a mental institution, as you can't seem to wrap that idea around your head.
How can it "ruin the persons XPing" if they don't lose XP?
If someone who's not in my party attacks a mob I started on, they gain absolutely nothing from it (apart from a feeling of satisfaction that they selflessly helped me).
How could this possibly be described as griefing?
rofl sygma you gonna teach me how it works in WoW? You obviously havent played it at all since you dont even know what system WoW has to prevent from KSing. Go play the game first, then you can at least have an opinion on game mechanics.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
This was an odd post since Blizzard has done everything possible to eradicate "kill-stealing" from the game entirely... As other posters have pointed out, if you get the first hit (AND must cause damage, not miss or parry, etc.) then you get the xp and loot. What you said about the loot is just not accurate because I've hit something once but didn't know if I got the first blow and wandered off to the next mob so the other attacker could take it. Sure enough, he did 99% of the damage/kill but he couldn't loot it in the end because I had that first hit. Same happened to me when I would insta-blast a mob killing it in one hit, but if someone got a single hit in before me, they got the loot. I think you might have just thought that was the case because if you miss or the mob blocks/parries, then that is not enough to lock the kill. (Tough luck sometimes - not like there isn't enough in the game to kill)
So what do people get for helping strangers kill something? A sense of helping someone out, a feeling of good old-fashioned camaraderie. Has selfishness and greed risen to the point that even when you still get the xp, and still get the loot, you just must have the 'final blow' and do 'all the damage' yourself for you to have fun?
Sorry, but I will always help people out and will continue to do so regardless of your post because I think you have some social issues conflicting with the good-natured help other players give you. Maybe the poster that suggested you being sent off to an island all alone was a good idea. The fact is it does give something to people that jump in and help you out. It gives them the pride that they just helped someone get somewhere a little quicker, and I would never mind that assistance myself. People help me out all the time and it's great that as a whole, the game design has promoted people helping each other out for no reason. That's exactly what games should do more often, but if it's one thing your post has shown me, is that maybe there will always be players with bad attitudes in a game even if everyone else is helping each other out.