Oh and another thing.........DF is the only game where there are no gold sellers, or bots (not that I noticed at least)
So there it goes my positive spinning to counter balance the totally out of proportion accusation of the OP.
Fallen Earth doesn't have them either.
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Originally posted by Sup3rnova
So don't bitch at me calling me a troll I'm saying solid facts about the game and reason why I personally don't like it. kudo's to this guy for giving people some advice unless you have some evidence to prove me wrong and that DF is thriving don't reply you only prove my point.
Aventurine is opening up a third office, and moving one of their existing offices to a larger building to accommodate growth after a reported surge in new players.
Don't try to comment on current events when you latest experience was with the slew of speedhackers. You have no idea what you're talking about.
The most common place hack is probably auto-loot and radar. I've witnessed for sure 3 people auto-looting, and 1 person radaring. I have also seen several teleporters. This is from the beginning of NA-1, btw... so over 3 months of play time here. Now, the reason I have noticed more teleporters is simply because it's hard to miss. You're killing someone, they run to the water, you follow them in within the next 3 seconds, and they are gone. Auto-looting and radaring are much harder to deduce, and there have only been a few instances where the evidence was irrefutable to me. How many times have I died because of radar hacks? Probably more than I realize, but I'd still bet less than 5% of my deaths. Ps. I am not the type to shout hackusations whenever I die.
"Now, the reason I have noticed more teleporters is simply because it's hard to miss. You're killing someone, they run to the water, you follow them in within the next 3 seconds, and they are gone. "
This is a prime example of how misinformed the masses are. When you log off in water. You log off instantly, it sucks yeah and hopefully is fixed in the patch but this definitely is not a hack. This just goes to show you have no clue what you are talking about.
You have no way to tell if its a for-sure auto-loot and even if it is. It only matters when you are a noob and sticking around starter towns. Otherwise just shoot them in the head?
Radar hacks, I could definitely see happening and being hard to detect. I don't think it happens often though and agree with you on your last point.
Maybe you should play the game before you refute something that I say. You do NOT log off instantly when you log in water. It takes about 45 seconds. What DOES happen when you log in water is that you reappear at your bindspot. Sometimes people will run for water, press alt-c and numlock and log out, so that their character continues to swim toward the bottom of the body of water they are in until they disappear.
But in the aforementioned case I was referring to, that did not happen. The perpetrator was running around actively fighting a friend and I up until just a few seconds before he made a run for the water. Also, I said he dissappeared... which isn't entirely true... he became a dot on the horizon, and then he disappeared.
One thing that really irks me is being called out as ignorant, so I suggest you give a seconds thought to my post next time you think about quoting and denouncing me, Bug+meat. You really deserve something a little sharper than that, but whatever... I guess you're "just a prime example of how misinformed the masses are."
Christ, I'm surprised you didn't label me a sheeple and mention the illuminati or some bullshit.
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with the hacks being very prevelent in Darkfall and the game designers inability to police the server I would not suggest ever purchasing this game. the GM's will not do anything when you /report a player and will often cuss at you for even insinuating that there are cheaters playing. Darkfall .
Oh and you JUST created an account to warn us...how nice of you.
I have played DF since beta and I haven't seen more cheaters in-game then in any other game I have played. Whoever thinks that there are online games without cheaters is delusional.
DF have less cheaters then a standard FPS game like CoD4, CS etc. In fact most cheats can be identified by logs and easily banned from the servers. I have played CoD4 for years and I have seen the same cheaters back on the same server ( where they have been banned ) in less then 5 minutes. Try to do that in DF.
Seriously people if you try to troll, put some facts and effort in it.
Yes AV has and continues to do something about it.
Damncheaters sells hacks for a lot of games. Darkfall is not a special case
Since darkfall is realtime it lends itself to hacks more then most games (more is done client side and less server side due to the information that needs to processed)
Hacking in darkfall is no epic game breaking problem that is going to ruin your experience at this current time.
Hacking in darkfall is no bigger of a problem for it then it is for other games.
That is basically the gist of the current hacking problem in darkfall. Take it or leave it.
DF isn't a big market fo far that's why no gold sellers there. It's easy to earn gold in DF nowdays. My friend makes 8-9k per hour but he hates gold farming. I'm sure when DP player base will rise up (i'm not saying if but when, yeah), you'll see gold selling in DFO. But I guess it will look different than in other games. Perhaps there won't be all those ad bots but mostly internet advertising. All in all if you wanna buy gold you can buy DF gold even now. But prices aren't low that's for sure...
ok,you are all misinformed, there are alotta gold sellers in Darkfall , but not in game because you are not invulnerable anywhere in DF... spam once = everyone will kill you repeatedly.
Hacks in DF you are stupid if you think less than 5 percent. more like 25 percent or more.. most likely more
ok,you are all misinformed, there are alotta gold sellers in Darkfall , but not in game because you are not invulnerable anywhere in DF... spam once = everyone will kill you repeatedly. Hacks in DF you are stupid if you think less than 5 percent. more like 25 percent or more.. most likely more
It's always fun to see people pull figures straight out of their arse. Do you have an active account?
I heard shaggymane was an ignorant twat. er i mean troll.
Seriously. you say there is gold spam? really? how fucking stupid are you? I have NEVER seen goldspam in DF and im dwarf, so have the largest chat population to read.
DF is inherently protected from gold selling. Infact it is inherently protected from gold BUYING! If someone was a gold buyer, theyd make a fantastic target, and anybody who uses RL money on regs or w/e isnt just the normal buying gold dumb, but the 'please rape me im a fucking nobjockey' kind of dumb.
Banned. Only use radar. Been in the wilds farming bears for 10-15 a time. Log out the come back hours later and do it again. No contact with others. Like i said, log in, run down hill kill 3 bears, run back up hill log out. Nobody around. After 4 days of no playing, log in today to see i'm banned.........
The hacker developer suggests also not to use his best hacks because its a definately ban. So a few hacker using radar fearing the ban using radar whats implemented in most games as a feature and doesn't do a scratch in combat lol
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I heard that everyone uses the radar hack. Is this true?
No. Accusations of people hacking are usually just sour grapes over getting owned in PvP.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
Originally posted by Agricola1 Originally posted by ghoul31 I heard that everyone uses the radar hack. Is this true?
No. Accusations of people hacking are usually just sour grapes over getting owned in PvP.
It's easy to check. You may try to stealth to someone and see will he react or not... Sure you have to have radar installed. Because if not you won't see his reaction. Or will see it too late, hehe...
I heard shaggymane was an ignorant twat. er i mean troll.
Seriously. you say there is gold spam? really? how fucking stupid are you? I have NEVER seen goldspam in DF and im dwarf, so have the largest chat population to read. DF is inherently protected from gold selling. Infact it is inherently protected from gold BUYING! If someone was a gold buyer, theyd make a fantastic target, and anybody who uses RL money on regs or w/e isnt just the normal buying gold dumb, but the 'please rape me im a fucking nobjockey' kind of dumb. I think the OP is that kind of dumb
He never said gold spam...he said gold seller AS IN PEOPLE SELLING GOLD OVER THE INTERNET which is then transfered in-game. The only difference is that there is no gold spammer in towns as 1: no one is in town, 2:if anyone sees a gold spammer....trust me....he's dead.
Go read the first post on page 6 (which happens to be mine).
Gold Selling in DarkFall DOES exist but you have to search for these websites rather than looking at players spamming in towns.
I heard that everyone uses the radar hack. Is this true?
No. Accusations of people hacking are usually just sour grapes over getting owned in PvP.
It's easy to check. You may try to stealth to someone and see will he react or not... Sure you have to have radar installed. Because if not you won't see his reaction. Or will see it too late, hehe...
Stealth? How do you mean? Is there a way of making no noise as you approach someone from behind?
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
I heard that everyone uses the radar hack. Is this true?
No. Accusations of people hacking are usually just sour grapes over getting owned in PvP.
It's easy to check. You may try to stealth to someone and see will he react or not... Sure you have to have radar installed. Because if not you won't see his reaction. Or will see it too late, hehe...
Stealth? How do you mean? Is there a way of making no noise as you approach someone from behind?
I heard that everyone uses the radar hack. Is this true?
No. Accusations of people hacking are usually just sour grapes over getting owned in PvP.
It's easy to check. You may try to stealth to someone and see will he react or not... Sure you have to have radar installed. Because if not you won't see his reaction. Or will see it too late, hehe...
Stealth? How do you mean? Is there a way of making no noise as you approach someone from behind?
not everyoneuses radar, but pretty damn close. I am not an ignorant twat. If you read my post carefully it doesnt say anything about gold spamming. read it before calling people names and making yourself look like a fool.
No you're not an ignorant twat. People here are being unnecessarily kind to you though by calling you that. Consider yourself lucky
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Fallen Earth doesn't have them either.
Aventurine is opening up a third office, and moving one of their existing offices to a larger building to accommodate growth after a reported surge in new players.
Don't try to comment on current events when you latest experience was with the slew of speedhackers. You have no idea what you're talking about.
"Now, the reason I have noticed more teleporters is simply because it's hard to miss. You're killing someone, they run to the water, you follow them in within the next 3 seconds, and they are gone. "
This is a prime example of how misinformed the masses are. When you log off in water. You log off instantly, it sucks yeah and hopefully is fixed in the patch but this definitely is not a hack. This just goes to show you have no clue what you are talking about.
You have no way to tell if its a for-sure auto-loot and even if it is. It only matters when you are a noob and sticking around starter towns. Otherwise just shoot them in the head?
Radar hacks, I could definitely see happening and being hard to detect. I don't think it happens often though and agree with you on your last point.
Maybe you should play the game before you refute something that I say. You do NOT log off instantly when you log in water. It takes about 45 seconds. What DOES happen when you log in water is that you reappear at your bindspot. Sometimes people will run for water, press alt-c and numlock and log out, so that their character continues to swim toward the bottom of the body of water they are in until they disappear.
But in the aforementioned case I was referring to, that did not happen. The perpetrator was running around actively fighting a friend and I up until just a few seconds before he made a run for the water. Also, I said he dissappeared... which isn't entirely true... he became a dot on the horizon, and then he disappeared.
One thing that really irks me is being called out as ignorant, so I suggest you give a seconds thought to my post next time you think about quoting and denouncing me, Bug+meat. You really deserve something a little sharper than that, but whatever... I guess you're "just a prime example of how misinformed the masses are."
Christ, I'm surprised you didn't label me a sheeple and mention the illuminati or some bullshit.
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Oh and you JUST created an account to warn us...how nice of you.
I have played DF since beta and I haven't seen more cheaters in-game then in any other game I have played. Whoever thinks that there are online games without cheaters is delusional.
DF have less cheaters then a standard FPS game like CoD4, CS etc. In fact most cheats can be identified by logs and easily banned from the servers. I have played CoD4 for years and I have seen the same cheaters back on the same server ( where they have been banned ) in less then 5 minutes. Try to do that in DF.
Seriously people if you try to troll, put some facts and effort in it.
Yes there are hackers in darkfall.
Yes AV has and continues to do something about it.
Damncheaters sells hacks for a lot of games. Darkfall is not a special case
Since darkfall is realtime it lends itself to hacks more then most games (more is done client side and less server side due to the information that needs to processed)
Hacking in darkfall is no epic game breaking problem that is going to ruin your experience at this current time.
Hacking in darkfall is no bigger of a problem for it then it is for other games.
That is basically the gist of the current hacking problem in darkfall. Take it or leave it.
Read my post
ok,you are all misinformed, there are alotta gold sellers in Darkfall , but not in game because you are not invulnerable anywhere in DF... spam once = everyone will kill you repeatedly.
Hacks in DF you are stupid if you think less than 5 percent. more like 25 percent or more.. most likely more
I heard that everyone uses the radar hack. Is this true?
It's always fun to see people pull figures straight out of their arse. Do you have an active account?
I heard shaggymane was an ignorant twat. er i mean troll.
Seriously. you say there is gold spam? really? how fucking stupid are you? I have NEVER seen goldspam in DF and im dwarf, so have the largest chat population to read.
DF is inherently protected from gold selling. Infact it is inherently protected from gold BUYING! If someone was a gold buyer, theyd make a fantastic target, and anybody who uses RL money on regs or w/e isnt just the normal buying gold dumb, but the 'please rape me im a fucking nobjockey' kind of dumb.
I think the OP is that kind of dumb
The angst is big over there over getting banned
The hacker developer suggests also not to use his best hacks because its a definately ban. So a few hacker using radar fearing the ban using radar whats implemented in most games as a feature and doesn't do a scratch in combat lol
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
No. Accusations of people hacking are usually just sour grapes over getting owned in PvP.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
You heard well.
No. Accusations of people hacking are usually just sour grapes over getting owned in PvP.
It's easy to check. You may try to stealth to someone and see will he react or not... Sure you have to have radar installed. Because if not you won't see his reaction. Or will see it too late, hehe...
He never said gold spam...he said gold seller AS IN PEOPLE SELLING GOLD OVER THE INTERNET which is then transfered in-game. The only difference is that there is no gold spammer in towns as 1: no one is in town, 2:if anyone sees a gold spammer....trust me....he's dead.
Go read the first post on page 6 (which happens to be mine).
Gold Selling in DarkFall DOES exist but you have to search for these websites rather than looking at players spamming in towns.
No. Accusations of people hacking are usually just sour grapes over getting owned in PvP.
It's easy to check. You may try to stealth to someone and see will he react or not... Sure you have to have radar installed. Because if not you won't see his reaction. Or will see it too late, hehe...
Stealth? How do you mean? Is there a way of making no noise as you approach someone from behind?
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
When I used to play I've never seen 1 hacker or gold seller spam. Lot of macro tough, but its the game
No. Accusations of people hacking are usually just sour grapes over getting owned in PvP.
It's easy to check. You may try to stealth to someone and see will he react or not... Sure you have to have radar installed. Because if not you won't see his reaction. Or will see it too late, hehe...
Stealth? How do you mean? Is there a way of making no noise as you approach someone from behind?
Yes - Crouching-walking.
No. Accusations of people hacking are usually just sour grapes over getting owned in PvP.
It's easy to check. You may try to stealth to someone and see will he react or not... Sure you have to have radar installed. Because if not you won't see his reaction. Or will see it too late, hehe...
Stealth? How do you mean? Is there a way of making no noise as you approach someone from behind?
Crouch walk.
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not everyoneuses radar, but pretty damn close.
I am not an ignorant twat.
If you read my post carefully it doesnt say anything about gold spamming.
read it before calling people names and making yourself look like a fool.
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No you're not an ignorant twat. People here are being unnecessarily kind to you though by calling you that. Consider yourself lucky
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