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Aion: "Vision" Trailer Not Footage of Patch/Expansion
MikeB
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Sure to disappoint many fans or even onlookers out there hopeful for a reborn Aion, the "Vision" Trailer recently released is not necessarily footage of a singular upcoming patch or expansion, as Aion Community Manager Sebastian "Ayase" Streiffert explains in a Twitter update, "The vision trailer is not a specific patch/expansion - it's a vision of what we're hoping to get out there in the future."
Also, according to another Tweet by Ayase there is currently no ETA for the implementation of any of the features shown in the "Vision" trailer. NCsoft simply wanted to share what they are working on with their fans, Ayase says.
UPDATE: For anyone confused as to whether or not the Vision trailer footage was actually rendered in-game, we'd like to clarify that it is. This article is simply stating that not necessarily all the features included in the Vision trailer will drop into the game as one large update or expansion.
I am also including Ayase's explanation, which you can find below:
I just want to reply and say that I think my tweets have been misinterpreted. I will admit that they're short and it's easy for such an unfortunate misinterpretation to happen, but I will also have it said that I'm not claiming this not to be in-game content, I'm merely saying it's not a specific expansion or patch (at this point).
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haha but what about all the fanbois that based all of their arguments on this trailer?
lol
I don't see how anyone who actually watched that trailer could think it would all be implemented 1) soon 2) all at once 3) all that stuff would ACTUALLY be implemented.
but to a degree you're right.
Edit - I at least have to give NC soft some credit, they're admitting this is what COULD happen not what WILL. People can't say down the road that they made broken promises.
Looks like they reached their projected "resub goal" and are finally coming out with the information. This isn't a big surprise to anyone who's seen this done a million times.
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Exactly
It seemed to me to be very straight forward.
"Vision Trailer".
The Vision of what the game would (might) have in the future. Anyone thinking that this was coming in the next update was overly optimistic at best.
What NC Soft should have done was be a bit more clear (for those who can't extrapolate what "vision" implies) and then simultaneously release info on the upcoming expansion.
but they aren't really the brightest bulbs in the sky at times.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
I'm having a very hard time understanding this.
Is this trailer not actual gameplay?
If it is gameplay, then surely they have started to work on all of it, and if not then big fail on NCSoft.
It's more like machinima, and pre-rendered. This video is to show what "could" be acheived in the long term. It's to show off what the game engine is capable off.
Remember Age of Conan and those first DX10 videos? They were pre-rendered, Funcom is slowly acheiving their DX10 goal, but it took them a lot more time than anticipated.
See that is one big problem with the community, game companies released pre-rendered videos using game engine and a lot of people think it's the real deal running in real time.
I wouldn't go as far as saying companies are lying, let's say you're working on a project which has a time table of 4 years, you might as well pre-render your gameplay in the first year expecting the cpu/gpu industry growing fast enough so people could eventually run the game in real time at the end of that 4 years.
I think people are confusing movie trailers and game trailers...
It's more like machinima, and pre-rendered. This video is to show what "could" be acheived in the long term. It's to show off what the game engine is capable off.
Remember Age of Conan and those first DX10 videos? They were pre-rendered, Funcom is slowly acheiving their DX10 goal, but it took them a lot more time than anticipated.
See that is one big problem with the community, game companies released pre-rendered videos using game engine and a lot of people think it's the real deal running in real time.
I wouldn't go as far as saying companies are lying, let's say you're working on a project which has a time table of 4 years, you might as well pre-render your gameplay in the first year expecting the cpu/gpu industry growing fast enough so people could eventually run the game in real time at the end of that 4 years.
I think people are confusing movie trailers and game trailers...
Oh I don't know, it could very well be stuff that they have actually working well enough to "show' but because it is not fleshed out, bugs, not integrated into the game play as a whole that it won't be released for some time.
I mean, it's clear that these assets exist and as you are saying are being rendered in the game engine so "something" exists.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Sorry, I call shenanigans.
Developers are always so clear to point out when they show 'in-development' footage before a game's release.
Videos they put out AFTER the release when they're trying to get subs shouldn't be any less accurate.
This video is misleading. If NCSoft wanted it to be a video of not-yet-implemented mechanics then they should SAY so. Calling it a 'Vision' video is being deliberately obtuse since Aion marketing is already so full of flowery text. A 'Vision' could be a vision of beauty as well as a vision of the future.
And don't think the PR types didn't know they were be misleading. They may not be brightest bulbs but even stupid people know how to bend the truth.
No, this makes perfect sense. This is the VISION trailer, it's actual game-play footage. What Ayase is saying is it won't necessarily come out as one giant update, and instead may trickle out over several updates. Not a hard concept.
Actually what hes saying is it MIght come out, or it might not. Its a vision and not a guarantee.
Sorry, I call shenanigans.
Developers are always so clear to point out when they show 'in-development' footage before a game's release.
Videos they put out AFTER the release when they're trying to get subs shouldn't be any less accurate.
This video is misleading. If NCSoft wanted it to be a video of not-yet-implemented mechanics then they should SAY so. Calling it a 'Vision' video is being deliberately obtuse since Aion marketing is already so full of flowery text. A 'Vision' could be a vision of beauty as well as a vision of the future.
And don't think the PR types didn't know they were be misleading. They may not be brightest bulbs but even stupid people know how to bend the truth.
Oh, I have no doubt that PR people skew the truth. I worked with the Vice President of Marketing for my company for several years on some aspects of her projects.
But when I see "vision" it seems to me that it is exactly that, a vision of what they see their product becoming. In no way shape or form did I infer that it was coming in any recent update, though some if it might come in the next update as they did say that they were going to be implementing housing and that they might have mounts though they wouldn't exactly be what players thought of as mounts (whatever that means).
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Actually what hes saying is it MIght come out, or it might not. Its a vision and not a guarantee.
No he didn't say that at all. He said that it's not a specific update where it all comes out at once. Some of these are features that NCsoft already said that they were developing earlier this year. It was a vision of what the game is becoming, and that's the entire purpose of the trailer. These are features already available on the developer servers, for the most part. This would also be too large for an update to come all at once, too many things could go wrong. So it would make sense that we see a feature here and a feature there until the vision is complete. You are right that there is no guarantee, but they wouldn't show things they couldn't and weren't planning on doing in the first place. It could be months, or even years before the vision is entirely complete, although I doubt it seeing as most of this stuff would be very easy to implement.
This is a vision of what is being worked on, not a specific preview for a patch.
That said, most of what is seen in the video IS in-game footage from gameplay and cinematics. MMO development is always up in the air, though. More could be added to this, it could be changed, or some could be dropped based on any number of factors.
The important thing to remember is they never claimed this was for any specific patch. Some of this could be in the upcomming 2.0 patch, some not until 3.0 and beyond but if it was in the "Visions" trailer, it is being worked on in some way, shape or form. Translations suggest that some of the content is as much as 80% done.
So no, this is not a trailer for an expansion or one specific patch, but most of it will be in-game as future updates roll in. Keep an eye on upcoming patch notes over at AionSource for exactly what will be in when.
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Let's troll on semantics, after all this is the first time ever PR was used without clear details... although for most people with a reasonable IQ "vision" wasn't really unclear as what it meant, but I guess this even deserves a whole news post over here instead of a small update :P
Oh well....was finished with aion after only a month anyway.
Papa always said, "a baited line catches more fish!" Guess NCSoft know that lesson well.
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Sorry little noobs that wasn't part of the patch we mentioned shortly before and no it's not set in stone......further more it has nothing to do with the patch to allow flying pets.
NCsoft did one of 2 things there either they are completely stupid and didn't think since they had a patch planned soon for flying pets etc. that people would ( some ) assume that some of the trailer would be worked in. OR they knew it and the ave. IQ of aions player base ( read aion armory omg omg I jizzed comments all over ) and used that to bait the huge numbers who already left the game after the first month giving them some hope from a vision. It was a shallow attempt to get resubs same as with the little ban on bots, if I login after a few days of a "bot sweep" allowing them a few days to regain on a new account or even char. what they lost I am SURE AS HELL I will see just as many bots.
Take a point here GM KARMA from aion was on triniel (sp?) showboating "bot smashing" and if anyone was there like I was you could see the bs PR machine in working order, GM KARMA stated "stay here I will go to elyos and port you back botters" She returns with 1 bot and CLAIMS " I am having a hard time finding them there" SERIOUS I went to gather subella in BEL roof area and what do I see 30+ bots. So I make a mature and accurate local post and shop next to GM KARMA with a location on it, instead of banning the high end bots GM KARMA goes to panda to ban the 2-3 shops and goes for coffee or sleep etc. sorry doll you have the brains of a peanut if you cannot find bots and showboat removing them for the little kiddies, it never worked on me.
If you cannot see that was just PR to keep the community happy for a few days til it had a better idea then you are prolly still subbed to WARHAMMER and think paul is pvp king ( sorry he's a douche ) Like I posted before AION after the 16,000 "bot ban " did seem to make the servers in areas like ghost towns which makes me ask if said bots were banned the % balance they aimed for is correct as they worried about pvp balances people fail to view the real data like abyss control, legion points, player points, cause if they did they would see a huge inbalance.
In this industry PR is like a a crooked politician some of them can really BS you into thinking it's a shiny gold penny when we all know it's not even pure copper anymore. Bottom lne is NCsoft is full of crap only out to secure subs weather it's legit players or bots renewing cycle of ban, renew, ban renew. The trailer's timing was totally PR to save subs, same with the promise of flying pets, sadly people forget this game has been out for awhile in asia and in a way it's like a giant polished beta for the NA version ( yes I know there is some differences in code and language conversions ) But to say it's not is BS.
If NCsoft really wants to save face post true and accurate server data, give some realistic dates on fixes and get soem capable GM's banning the bots and not showboating pissing about wasting payroll like GM KARMA.
NCsoft, post the active subs and server populations in pure form no sugar, or coatings for everyone to see and when you do ban said bots the effect is seen. I see this game full of fail and just like warhammer servers in about 3 months. Hell already tried the server transfers then removed the option before it even went live cause they knew it's way one sided but feared how it would look for a 2 month old launch to have transfers and the backlash it would cause.
NCsoft you FAIL, go help feed the family.
On another note how would it have looked if warhammer or WOW released a "vision" a day or 2 before AION launched to keep people form leaving then state it might or might not be real. People would freak out, but I am sure it would be effective for said game and get alot of simple minded people who are easily convinced to resub......AION saw a serious issue with subs, and forum whine on bots, pvp and more and came out with that trailer at a ironic time right before the 2nd months sub date I mean really.......*bashes head*
Take a look at how eve online does trailers...or even WOW. Stuff they intend to do and mean it, eve has even released stuff like "visions" but they stick by it and make it work so props to EvE/WoW over the years for being true to it's player base. they don't do it when subs are low and a urgent issue is needed they do it on a steady base to keep the game fresh.
The only thing in that trailer that I could see being implemented soon would be DX10, other then that the rest of that stuff is way down the road if not beyond reach.
Sorry, I call shenanigans.
Developers are always so clear to point out when they show 'in-development' footage before a game's release.
Videos they put out AFTER the release when they're trying to get subs shouldn't be any less accurate.
This video is misleading. If NCSoft wanted it to be a video of not-yet-implemented mechanics then they should SAY so. Calling it a 'Vision' video is being deliberately obtuse since Aion marketing is already so full of flowery text. A 'Vision' could be a vision of beauty as well as a vision of the future.
And don't think the PR types didn't know they were be misleading. They may not be brightest bulbs but even stupid people know how to bend the truth.
"VISION" merely means "Dream" or "idea". There is nothing about the word itself that means a sure to be reality.
The Cry engine is amazing, and very well capable of doing everything we've seen in the trailer. However, as far as any time frame goes, hopefully we will all have Windows 7 with DirectX 11 and an upgraded vid card such as an ATI 5970 (currently the only vid card even capable of utilizing full DirectX 11) or an nVidia 300 series (which isn't ready, yet).
For all the gameplay stuff, if anyone here has ever played any of the other mmo's out there over the past few year, then you know it's NOT something we'll see all at once or soon. But, it will happen and since all these "ideas" are something that are obviously planned or imagined (or they wouldn't be there in the first place) as being parts of expansions to make sure to keep players interested. As a career game tester, I see this stuff all the time where bits and pieces of current buggy, unfinished code are rushed in one form or another for public viewing and freaks like some of the people here misunderstand what it is that's being shown in the first place.
Here's another quote from Ayase " it's a WIP vision. And it's one we're very thrilled about.
" It's not smoke and mirrors something is there but since it's not even finalized they don't want to promise anything. Personally I'm very glad they decided to clue me on on the "future" of aion. I expect this to come in tiers bit by bit over time. Ala the chronicles in Lineage II. Who knows we might even get more than we expect.
What do you think? Ofcourse not. All the stuff that you saw and isn't in the game yet, was just CGI material. As their current licensed game engine is so old, it doesn't even support it nor is it capable of supporting it.
But it's funny nonetheless, as I wonder how many sucke....ehh people insta resubbed to AION after drooling over this video and thought it would be the next expansion. LOL.
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Sorry to burst your bubble into tears my friend. But AION is using the Cry Engine 1 !
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I don't think "Vision" holds any real information about whether or not this will make it in.
For me, this trailer is reminiscent of the trailers released 3 years ago, they got us incredibly excited, along with the promises made by the dev team (aka: story driven, complete game questable, living environment, big world, flying pvp something really unique, great word pvp, dynamic pvpve system).
The current Aion sets few of those in stone, instead being a dumbed down game with little to do.
So this trailer really leaves kind of a bitter taste in my mouth.
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