Howdy, Stranger!
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Quick Links
WoW community=Worst ever?
camber
Member Posts: 14
In my opinion, the WoW "community" is the worst ever in an MMORPG. From the b.net kiddies who can't seem to form a complete sentence without inserting several profanities, to the random pointless griefing on PvE servers (I don't buy this 'they're normal servers not PvE servers' garbage), to the people screaming about bot farmers, it's the #1 reason I'm letting my subscription lapse at the end of this month.
I know there's going to be an element of immaturity in any online game community, but WoW is by far the worst I've seen in any MMORPG.
Comments
I've seen worse from first person shooters.
The explanation to the community is very simple.
The game might be top-notch in most categories, but the chat system isnt. They are using probably one of the worst chat structures ever. Everyone can speak at the same time, plus all but global messages are in the same color. Thats like ouch, what goes to what. Navigation is annoying, and the chat can very easily be flooded by lets say 400 people in the Barrens. They should have used Ragnarok Online as a chatting system sample then applied it to a full 3d environment. RO might be a boring game, but its chat system is simply the best.
So have I, but community really isn't as integral to FPSes I don't think. For me to be able to enjoy an MMORPG, I have to be able to have a decent chance of being able to at least tolerate the people I group or guild with, and that just hasn't happened so far in WoW.
The chat system might be part of the problem, but I honestly think a lot of it is just Blizzard being such a big name and drawing in all the worst of the bnet kiddies.
is every one at age 30 this whiney? i dont mean to be a jackass but if you enjoy the gamehow could a few juveniles swearing put you off the game? its got a profanity filter and if the sight of &%$@ offends you use the /ignore. Also how do you greif someone in a game designed to minimized kill stealing? would take some effort, and peple screaming about botters and farmers? oh come on are you serious botters and farmers ruin a game and your complaining about people wanted to put an end to it? well thats fine if you dont mind botters and farmers ruining your game experience less than some kids swearing then i reccomend Lineage 2.
-sorry if i came off rough but it baffles me that some kid whome youll never meet would make you quit something thats fun for you by swearing.
I agree, WoW has one of the worst communities ever. J-Monster is an excellent example of the kind of &*^*()&^ that play this game.
How do you grief on a PvE server? I assume you meant PvP, and you're right - the griefing is beyond a joke and the game urgently needs some kind of honor system. I hope Blizzard can deliver a good one, and soon.
As for the community, I think the fact that all kinds of people are playing the game is largely down to the fact that the game was designed to be enjoyed by all kinds of people.
Here's my advice: Whenever you encounter a situation in a computer game that causes you to have deep feelings of sadness, try to employ a little perspective. Think to yourself something along the lines of "Is this situation going to cause the planet Earth to spin out of orbit?"
Nine times out of ten, you'll probably realise it's not really worth giving a shit.
Hmmmmm mEbe WARcraft 3 has the worst comunity.........if all the kiddies switch 2 wow....then idd wow will be hell ! <<<waiting for realease in europe>>> freaking noobs who like sexxy lewking stuff
How do you grief on a PvE server? I assume you meant PvP, and you're right - the griefing is beyond a joke and the game urgently needs some kind of honor system. I hope Blizzard can deliver a good one, and soon.
As for the community, I think the fact that all kinds of people are playing the game is largely down to the fact that the game was designed to be enjoyed by all kinds of people.
Here's my advice: Whenever you encounter a situation in a computer game that causes you to have deep feelings of sadness, try to employ a little perspective. Think to yourself something along the lines of "Is this situation going to cause the planet Earth to spin out of orbit?"
Nine times out of ten, you'll probably realise it's not really worth giving a shit.
I think he talks about the pointless raids on lowbie cities, killing npcs, quest givers, trainers and so on.
I do think there are different people but jackarses but I have to agree - WoW has indeed by far the worst community I have seen in a MMORPG.
I never thought it would get worse than L2 or FFXI:(
Then again... WoW is not centered around commnity at all.
Its about quests:) and making a 1337 character and pwn with your uber gear in pvp, and call everyone losers! That is what wow is about:)
Pingo hits the nail on the head. I consider killing quest givers/merchants/vendors/bankers/auctioneers to be griefing when it's done on a non-PvP server, whether Blizzard considers it to be or not. I don't have any real problem with PvPing but I don't want to have to be forced to try to fight off a bored level 60 rogue if I just want to go visit the AH.
I think the problem is that this game is just designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator among gamers, and that's exactly what it has attracted.
I'd like to add, too, that this isn't something that's causing me to burst into tears at my computer, or keeping me awake at night in a cold sweat with l33tsp33k running through my head, but it still definitely cuts into my enjoyment of what might otherwise be a very good game. So don't worry about my perspective, it's just fine.
I wasn't aware that players can kill vendors and quest givers on PvE servers. What crack fiend came up with that idea?
I agree that the game was designed to have an appeal to the lowest common demoninator, but I've also read a number of articles by old school MMORPG players who are raving over WoW. When it comes down to it, WoW is just out-and-out fun to play.
It seems to me that a lot of people decided that WoW was gonna be populated mainly by children before the game was even released though, and I've found the in-game community to be excellent. I guess everyones experience will differ.
Anyway sorry for the misunderstanding, and good luck with whatever games you play in the future.
I think the towns need to be re-structured to actually protect it. I remember back in the beta on one of the freshly opened servers. I got my Tauren to level 10, and swam all the way to the Human starting village. I climbed the mountains and got around all those guards. Then I stood in the field with all the bandits, and waited for a newbie to attack me, then I beat them up. Until I got jumped by 20 newbies, then I just respawned in that village and stood there again until someone else tried it.
To tell you the truth, I think only the horde has starting towns that can actually be defended by the level 75 guards. The beta seems to be different then the commercial version, since I dont have a copy of Worlds of Warcraft yet. I remember the community being really nice, atleast around the Thunderbluffs, and well everywhere I went in the horde territory. Maybe that would help cause I was only on the horde, maybe horde people are nicer. I have seen many videos with Alliance members being really lame to horde members; griefing, ganging and what not. When I responded to a topic on an alliance guild, they got really pissy and stuff and started aying some really awful things about the horde, and made said some things that would make them out to be a very mean person in the game.
Just a couple thoughts here...
1) You are part of the community - hence part of the problem. If you don't like something and it's outside the TOS, report it and keep reporting it. Blizzard will get the picture if enough mature people get sick of the abusers and report it day in and day out.
2) It's not just age that signifies a decent person. The only peep in WoW I actually group with at all is a 13 year old and he's very mature and decent. I am 35 and pretty much ignore chat issues.
3) I also turn off channels I don't want to see when I'm soloing or RPing, ie GENERAL. I recommend this as well as the very first time someone does say something stupid or vulgar, they go on Ignore. These are all tools given with the chat mechanism to make it more bearable. There are quite a few other examples of chat settings, but you should explore those as well.
Just my 2cp, but I don't really think it's any worse in WoW than it was in EQ1 when you were sitting on PoK trying to skill up or find a group. Spam is Spam and I have always disliked people who seem incapable of chatting to the correct channel, but I don't think it'll ever change. Peace.
Tacklebury --}>>>
==================================================
Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy!
Once again, I feel pretty lucky to be where I am in the game. I play horde on my server, and I do see in General the occasional person who thinks "noob" is the ultimate insult, or who finds it necessary to say "in your arse" every time someone asks where something is, but it is far more common for people to be chatting or exchanging information in at least a moderately civil way. It is certainly no worse than /ooc was in EQ for a long time.
Maybe I just have a thick skin for it.
Or maybe it is because I am playing Horde characters mostly, and there are more than 3 times as many Alliance (from the numbers I have seen) on Perenolde, so I only have contact with a relatively small portion of the community....
...
This is where I draw the line: __________________.
You get used to it after awhile...
just idiots really...
idiot a - Newb!!!
idiot b - wtf?
a - yeah thats right!
idiot c - ooohhh he just pwned you, yo
idiot d - LOLOLOL!!
b - thats it, we're dueling. dont make me get my lvl 60...do you want my mage, warlock, ranger or pally.
*smacks forhead
Yes I do send reports and I have a decent sized ignore list. hehe My standard rule of thumb on ignores is that I keep a hardcopy list of really nasty peeps and then the online ignore. If they make it to my hardcopy list, they are ignored permanently, but if they were just being bothersome, I usually remove them after a week. If they are still being bothersome, they are put on the hardcopy and I leave them ignored. Blizzard responded on one occasion by booting the person immediately, but other than that, I'm not sure how many complaints they compile before action is taken.
Tacklebury --}>>>
Interesting. I must be lucky because I have yet to see any of what people would call heavy griefing and misbehavior from players in my WoW experiences. Maybe it's just circumstances though, such as playing on an RP server instead of a regular or a PvP server (even the few weeks I played there didn't seem as bad as I thought it would be). Maybe it's because I play on Horde instead of Alliance where a lot of immaturity does tend to flock though ("B.net" kids wanting to play uberized NE characters). All in all though, WoW's community is no worse than any other MMORPG on the market.
Another interesting note. It seems that the people whining about immaturity in this post are being more immature than those they're whining about. For instance this little jewel from Vegaa:
"J-Monster is an excellent example of the kind of &*^*()&^ that play this game."
Doesn't this guy seem a great example of how we should all act?
I would also have to consider myself a lucky player. Playing on a PvE server (BlackHand) I have no problems with anyone really. Might run into the odd person who thinks he knows better or an enchanter who gets pissed when you tell him he charges too much, but other than that its perfect. All i see is friendly chat even during horde/alliance raids on towns. Hell I fought a Horde warrior the other day and we came to a draw in our duel. He bowed and saluted to me. This is firendly gesture from opposite faction. Not to mention many people will run by and throw a buff ro 2 on ya for no reason. Finding a group ain't hard either.
I can't imagine a better community! seems to me that only PvP have problems. maybe time to think about switching to PvE or RP. Otherwise /ignore will be your new catch phrase.
WoW is fun with jackasses or not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"A day without denial is a day you've got to face."
OMG WHO CARES!!! YOU GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF BABIES!!! How do the immature players effect you?Exactly they don't!!! And who likes serios gamers? NOBODY!!!! That's why they spend their lives on these games!!!
BUNCH OF BABIES!!!!
this is a dumb thread
there is so many people playing WoW, how can all 350k of us suck, thats like the whole US gaming community dude...
we have awesome Faq's, addons!!!, and community sites.....its like the real world bro; everyone isnt goin to be like you or be nice to you.
be a man and suck it up.
Thank you, for showing us the 13 year old side of WoW. Luckely, you guys are the minority, and there are even decent 13 year olds.