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A WoW player's guide to Star Wars: The Old Republic - ARTICLE

DeaconXDeaconX Member UncommonPosts: 3,062

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Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.

BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.

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  • HyanmenHyanmen Member UncommonPosts: 5,357

    That is *so* different from WoW you can't really call this a WoW clone at all.

    I mean, the quests are fully voiced. That is like, so different.

    And you can take cover behind an objective. It's like comparing Fallout 3 to Monopoly.

    Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
  • IlvaldyrIlvaldyr Member CommonPosts: 2,142

    No druids. :'(

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  • ElikalElikal Member UncommonPosts: 7,912
    Originally posted by Ilvaldyr


    No druids. :'(

     

    Hey we have droids! Isn't that almost as good? :D

    Seriously, DeaconX, a thread starting "a WoW player's" must catch flame, or not? Lol, I hope not tho. ;)

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  • TrolloTrollo Member Posts: 19

    To Troll or not to Troll that is the question or the quest?

  • artemisentr4artemisentr4 Member UncommonPosts: 1,431

    If you can get past the WoW in the title then the article is a good read for thoughs that do not know anything about the game. I like watching that video on the last page as well. When I watch it, I know I will be playing this game for a long time.

    “How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them?”
    R.A.Salvatore

  • TheHatterTheHatter Member Posts: 2,547

    I have just 2 problems with this:

    1) They are copying Massively.com's great series of  "WoW Players Guide To"

    www.massively.com/tag/wow-players-guide

     

    2) How the hell do you make a guide to a game that's not out and not even in closed beta.... if it is in closed beta and I missed it (possible) then it hasn't been in closed beta long enough to make a guide and an NDA would eliminate any part of the guide that was worth anything. Making a guide on speculation is very unprofessional.

     

    PS: I don't blame the OP. :)

     

     

  • IllyssiaIllyssia Member UncommonPosts: 1,507
    Originally posted by Hyanmen


    That is *so* different from WoW you can't really call this a WoW clone at all.
    I mean, the quests are fully voiced. That is like, so different.
     



    It's story-driven game. in WoW you can just load up an addon and not even bother reading the quest text that crops up. Here you have to take a dip into the SW universe. You can't just swig a beer and make off-color jokes in general chat channel while grinding xp.

  • TheHatterTheHatter Member Posts: 2,547
    Originally posted by Illyssia

    It's story-driven game. in WoW you can just load up an addon and not even bother reading the quest text that crops up. Here you have to take a dip into the SW universe. You can't just swig a beer and make off-color jokes in general chat channel while grinding xp.

     

    You don't know that, the people who wrote that article don't know that and I don't know that. Nobody knows anything about this game other than it's called "Star Wars:The Old Republic" and the VERY limited information given on their site about it.

     

    Unless I went into a coma and it's really 3yrs after what day I really think it is. Wtf? This thread really does make me feel like that.

     

    Jumping to conclusions FTL. And this thread's full of it. Sure, it's fully voiced. Big deal. You can fully voice WoW, FFXI, or ANY game with quests, regardless of how story driven, or even linear they are. You can voice out EVE's missions if you want.

  • AmstrupAmstrup Member Posts: 63

    Voiced quest is a bad thing, so i agree with blizzard.

    Voiced quest makes it so much harder to go back if you need to change a quest.

  • Goatgod76Goatgod76 Member Posts: 1,214

    The sad part is that they even have to dumb down an article for the player's to understand.

  • tro44_1tro44_1 Member Posts: 1,819
    Originally posted by Goatgod76


    The sad part is that they even have to dumb down an article for the player's to understand.



     

    Sorry, but I dont know a dam thing about Star Wars. So I (like many) wont get into the (Role Playing)game because we know very little.

  • ThenariusThenarius Member Posts: 1,106
    Originally posted by Illyssia

    Originally posted by Hyanmen


    That is *so* different from WoW you can't really call this a WoW clone at all.
    I mean, the quests are fully voiced. That is like, so different.
     

    It's story-driven game. in WoW you can just load up an addon and not even bother reading the quest text that crops up. Here you have to take a dip into the SW universe. You can't just swig a beer and make off-color jokes in general chat channel while grinding xp.

    Things can and will change a lot during developement.



    We don't know how the game will end like, so let's wait until we actually see the classes in action.

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    Looking at the classes, I think there will be a pretty enormous faction imbalance.

  • GidasGidas Member Posts: 68
    Originally posted by Gameloading


    Looking at the classes, I think there will be a pretty enormous faction imbalance.

     

    I'm interested :) How so?

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by Gidas

    Originally posted by Gameloading


    Looking at the classes, I think there will be a pretty enormous faction imbalance.

     

    I'm interested :) How so?

    Well, for starters I think the dark side already has the advantage just for being evil. It's not often that mmorpg games give the player the option to play as evil characters so I think a lot of people will be interested in that.

    Aside from the Jedi knight, the light classes seems to be rather dull.



    The Jedi Knight is fine, no complaints here.

    The smuggler is based on Han Solo. Han Solo was an awesome character in the movies, but not a character a lot of people  would want to be. If players want to play a part in the star wars universe as a hero, they want to be as a Jedi.

    The Trooper has the problem of being just that. A trooper, a person with no real sense of individuality which I think is what a lot of people are looking for.

    The Jedi consular is a really good idea, and I think it would be really popular if it didn't look so...stupid. The clothes that are shown in the screenshots just look silly. If that is an indication of what the character will look like in the game, I think a lot of people will pick the Jedi Knight instead.

    The big problem here is that this is a game based on movies. The movies spend a lot of time making Jedi look awesome and everyone else rather dull.

    The dark side is treated better as far as classes are considered.

    The Sith Warrior is pretty much a dark side Jedi, Sure to be very popular.

    Bounty Hunter seems to be the counterpart to the Trooper. Unlike the Trooper, The Bounty Hunter has a lot of individuality and a lot more iconic weapons and attacks.

    The Imperial Agent isn't quite as iconic as either the sith warrior or the bounty hunter, but he still looks a lot better than the Smuggler.

    Sith Inquisitor seems to struggle with the same issues the Jedi Consular is.

    I think this game will have to struggle with a lot of population imbalance issues not just in faction imbalance, but class population imbalance as well. I think Jedi Knight and Sith Warrior will be by far the most played classes. The thing is, fighting with a lightsaber is just much cooler than shooting a laser pistorl. There are lots of ways you can wield a sword, but there is only so much you can do with a blaster. Shooting a ranged weapon isn't nearly as cool or iconic as wielding a lightsaber.

  • DrachasorDrachasor Member Posts: 2,678
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by Gidas

    Originally posted by Gameloading


    Looking at the classes, I think there will be a pretty enormous faction imbalance.

     

    I'm interested :) How so?

    Well, for starters I think the dark side already has the advantage just for being evil. It's not often that mmorpg games give the player the option to play as evil characters so I think a lot of people will be interested in that.

    Aside from the Jedi knight, the light classes seems to be rather dull.



    The Jedi Knight is fine, no complaints here.

    The smuggler is based on Han Solo. Han Solo was an awesome character in the movies, but not a character a lot of people  would want to be. If players want to play a part in the star wars universe as a hero, they want to be as a Jedi.

    The Trooper has the problem of being just that. A trooper, a person with no real sense of individuality which I think is what a lot of people are looking for.

    The Jedi consular is a really good idea, and I think it would be really popular if it didn't look so...stupid. The clothes that are shown in the screenshots just look silly. If that is an indication of what the character will look like in the game, I think a lot of people will pick the Jedi Knight instead.

    The big problem here is that this is a game based on movies. The movies spend a lot of time making Jedi look awesome and everyone else rather dull.

    The dark side is treated better as far as classes are considered.

    The Sith Warrior is pretty much a dark side Jedi, Sure to be very popular.

    Bounty Hunter seems to be the counterpart to the Trooper. Unlike the Trooper, The Bounty Hunter has a lot of individuality and a lot more iconic weapons and attacks.

    The Imperial Agent isn't quite as iconic as either the sith warrior or the bounty hunter, but he still looks a lot better than the Smuggler.

    Sith Inquisitor seems to struggle with the same issues the Jedi Consular is.

    I think this game will have to struggle with a lot of population imbalance issues not just in faction imbalance, but class population imbalance as well. I think Jedi Knight and Sith Warrior will be by far the most played classes. The thing is, fighting with a lightsaber is just much cooler than shooting a laser pistorl. There are lots of ways you can wield a sword, but there is only so much you can do with a blaster. Shooting a ranged weapon isn't nearly as cool or iconic as wielding a lightsaber.

    You do know that the real Dark Side Jedi is not the Sith Warrior....but the Dark Side Jedi, right?  You pick whether you are good or evil while you play.  I hate playing evil guys, but I'm certainly going to try out a Light Side Sith Warrior who wants to stop the Sith from being an Evil Empire, probably play a Bounty Hunter and such similarly.

     

    They also have a good bit of ranged weapons, such as grenades (even the Smuggler has them), so I wouldn't worry about that.  Yeah, probably be a lot of Lightsaber users, but that's not really a problem.

  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by Gameloading
    Well, for starters I think the dark side already has the advantage just for being evil. It's not often that mmorpg games give the player the option to play as evil characters so I think a lot of people will be interested in that.
    Aside from the Jedi knight, the light classes seems to be rather dull.



    The Jedi Knight is fine, no complaints here.
    The smuggler is based on Han Solo. Han Solo was an awesome character in the movies, but not a character a lot of people  would want to be. If players want to play a part in the star wars universe as a hero, they want to be as a Jedi.
    Oh, I think a LOT of people will want to be Han Solo.
    The Trooper has the problem of being just that. A trooper, a person with no real sense of individuality which I think is what a lot of people are looking for.
    The Jedi consular is a really good idea, and I think it would be really popular if it didn't look so...stupid. The clothes that are shown in the screenshots just look silly. If that is an indication of what the character will look like in the game, I think a lot of people will pick the Jedi Knight instead.
    The big problem here is that this is a game based on movies.

    What movies?

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  • EuphorykEuphoryk Member Posts: 450
    Originally posted by Gameloading


    The smuggler is based on Han Solo. Han Solo was an awesome character in the movies, but not a character a lot of people  would want to be.



     

    I stopped reading here, as this single line exposes just how poorly informed you are on the subject.

    Smuggler is one of the most sought after classes from the Star Wars universe and have been ever since the inception of SWG. The amount of players wishing to play a proper Smuggler is staggering to say the least. Jedi, despite being the obvious "hook" for the universe, are not the only thing the universe has to offer.

    Jedi only appeal to certain types of players, the same goes for Smugglers. Attempting to discerne what number of players will play either class in terms of faction balance is useless at this point because you don't have all the variables regarding how things will come to play out during the course of development.

    Pretty much disagree with everything you wrote.

     

  • greed0104greed0104 Member Posts: 2,134
    Originally posted by Gameloading



    The smuggler is based on Han Solo. Han Solo was an awesome character in the movies, but not a character a lot of people  would want to be. If players want to play a part in the star wars universe as a hero, they want to be as a Jedi.
    I think running around kicking people in the nuts will be the biggest appeal to Smuggler, and no I'm not joking, they can seriously kick people in the nuts.
    The Trooper has the problem of being just that. A trooper, a person with no real sense of individuality which I think is what a lot of people are looking for.
    You would be surprised at how popular the badass military character can be. People were raving over the announcement at PAX. Nothing but cheers and gasps coming from the crowd.
    The Jedi consular is a really good idea, and I think it would be really popular if it didn't look so...stupid. The clothes that are shown in the screenshots just look silly. If that is an indication of what the character will look like in the game, I think a lot of people will pick the Jedi Knight instead.
    You're not in the minority, seems quite a few people don't like the looks of the Consular. I think the hat is awesome, that's just me though.
    The big problem here is that this is a game based on movies. The movies spend a lot of time making Jedi look awesome and everyone else rather dull.
    We'll see.
    The dark side is treated better as far as classes are considered.
    why do you think so?
    The Sith Warrior is pretty much a dark side Jedi, Sure to be very popular.
    Probably. I actually think the two most popular will be SI and JC.
    Bounty Hunter seems to be the counterpart to the Trooper. Unlike the Trooper, The Bounty Hunter has a lot of individuality and a lot more iconic weapons and attacks.
    Trooper stands out without making a comparison. They're a heavy armored class that carry a big gun and a even bigger gun. They have some interesting abilities, one of my favorite being the shoulder bash which knocks the opponent back and onto the ground. The other is the large pool of fire he can shoot under an enemies feet.
    The Imperial Agent isn't quite as iconic as either the sith warrior or the bounty hunter, but he still looks a lot better than the Smuggler.
    He's like the Sam Fisher of Star Wars. He will mostly attract the players that want a subtle sniper like roll. Smuggler will be for those wanting a underworld gunslinger. Crime is popular.
    Sith Inquisitor seems to struggle with the same issues the Jedi Consular is.
    I doubt it.
    I think this game will have to struggle with a lot of population imbalance issues not just in faction imbalance, but class population imbalance as well. I think Jedi Knight and Sith Warrior will be by far the most played classes. The thing is, fighting with a lightsaber is just much cooler than shooting a laser pistorl. There are lots of ways you can wield a sword, but there is only so much you can do with a blaster. Shooting a ranged weapon isn't nearly as cool or iconic as wielding a lightsaber.
    Again I disagree and polls have shown you are wrong. It's been balanced at around 50/50 on force users and blaster users in a few official polls on SWTOR.

     

  • AlienovrlordAlienovrlord Member Posts: 1,525

     Thanks for the link, I hadn't seen this article.   It's probably not really accurate since we know so little of the game, but it was an amusing read. 

  • lisubablisubab Member Posts: 670

    Isn't it too early to predict which is the FOTM class?

    The early months of a new game is sweetest b/c we do not know what class will be good, now or in the months ahead.  So most people play for fun, and for progression.  After all there is not end game in sight, or finalised yet.

    I will say I will try out each class, and see how each goes for me.  I am an alt-holic, and the alt that gives me most fun gets my effort to level up first.

    Its too early to worry about the game, let alone the end game.

  • StuBidasoeStuBidasoe Member Posts: 108

    Latest Sith or Republic poll.

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=21942

    Latest class poll.

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=91624

    All seems pretty even but take polls with a grain of salt cause if there is an OP class or easier class to play/level then people will flock to it. 

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