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TheHatter
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My post on FE Forums
First part is optimistic, the 3rd post not so much.
Ok, I just got done reading ALOT of threads and ALOT of the dev logs and I'm taking back what I said about keeping my sub.
NONE of the issues really seem to be getting addressed. Kinda shoved around, quick fixes here and there, and Icarus crossing their fingers hoping that their half assed fix will work. Well it won't. I have not seen one major issue *****ed about on these forums I didn't see my first week playing the game. Hell... I saw some of them BEFORE I played the game, just reading beta player discussions.
G**da**it Icarus. Get your head out of your ends and seriously address the issues that plague the game. You can start on any one of the majors and work your way around... the wheel and you'll end up with a spectacular game. I know you have the power, it may be hard, but you have the power and if you're smart you're going to fix it or you're going to end up like all the other failed indy MMOs. There is alot of them. The great questing system isn't going to keep the player base around for long. Eventually the hardcores will leave too. The fanatics aren't going to be able to support you, you know that.
I love this game. Please fix it. It doesn't have to be PVP first, just show initiative. You haven't yet.
Sucks.
It's not just whiny, I want a game that is exactly what I want, stuff. It's major game issues. PVP, Crafting, Economy, Content, etc. etc. the list goes on.
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Huh? What is the sad day? They closing down? NGE? What happened?
No, if you read my quoted post I basically came to the realization that the major issues in the game aren't getting any attention.
They are just piling crap on top of crap. The foundation of the pile of crap is made out of gold though. Instead of fixing it from the bottom up, they are trying to fix it from the top down, when it's alot of underlying issues that need to be addressed and not the surface crap.
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I think it's wrong to assume they aren't working diligently to improve the game...
Being understaffed only gets things done so fast.
Yeah, I understand that. But it really seems that none of them are even being addressed. It's not that hard to say that they are working to improve features, they do it all the time........ but like I said. It's just features that are piling crap on top of crap.
"You play too much. Take a breather until they do a PvP patch."
Yeah. My sub doesn't end until the 22nd of this month, so I'll still have more time to play. I actually haven't played in several months though.
But, if they fix the PVP to make it meaningful... I mean actually meaningful in some way other than defending a base which seems to be what this PVP patch is going to be. (why am I defending a base? cause we own it? cool.. but why do we own it? super nodes? there are plenty of nodes, why do I need a super node?) Then I can deal with all the other issues until they get fixed. My character was actually a Tech Pistoleer/Crafter.
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Your rude and immature writing will never be listened to.
Only mature and constructive feedback is taken seriously.
This is something you should know. But... its something everyone should know and most, do not.
You don't have to use curse words to get your point across in this world. And if you want to be taken seriously, you never should use them.
Hatter you have been pretty supportive to FE in the past and I am not going to tell you something you already know, however give the game some time to mature more, its still a baby in the mmo gaming world as we all know.
But feel free to stress your concerns, you have every right since your a paying customer.
How am I rude and immature? Because I said god damnit and bitched? Both of which are censored by FE's forums, yet most NPCs in the game cuss like sailors and both of those words are said on network TV.
Sometimes, you can't express frustration with anything but harsher words.
I'm sorry that I'm an adult, a veteran, and that I don't shove my bible in every passer by's face. Now you can call me rude.
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How am I rude and immature? Because I said god damnit and bitched? Both of which are censored by FE's forums, yet most NPCs in the game cuss like sailors and both of those words are said on network TV.
Sometimes, you can't express frustration with anything but harsher words.
Yes, cursing is rude and immature. You know it is. Everyone does.
Just because the words are used in a post-apocolyptic world and on "television" doesn't mean the words aren't rude and immature.
Do as you please, I'm just trying to help you by pointing it out that video game companies don't respect anything but mature and respectful feedback.
How am I rude and immature? Because I said god damnit and bitched? Both of which are censored by FE's forums, yet most NPCs in the game cuss like sailors and both of those words are said on network TV.
Sometimes, you can't express frustration with anything but harsher words.
That's funny because I can express extreme frustration without using "harsher words". Then again, if you don't know the English language very well I guess it might be a problem... ^ ^
Yeah, I just hope that they do fix the issues. They have listened to players in the past, but I'm not alone in talking about these issues, it seems to be a reoccurring theme on the official forums that has gone on for a few months now with no devs touching the issues.
Do I expect them to be completely fixed and implemented? No. But I do expect, somoene, to say something about something. Other than just the "HEY THIS IS COMING NOW!" when every player is talking about "that thing". They don't care about "this" when "that" hurts the game so much.
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LoL.
No matter what word you use, it's the context in which it's used. I can say FUCK, or I can say FRICK! Is there a difference? Not at all. The 2 words are obviously spelled different, but the context in which it's used they are the same.
Any who, back to topic. The short time I played I think I understand your frustration. I see a great game that needs to be worked more and it seems like things are not moving as fast as most would like. My biggest problem is the insane lose of FPS in towns. The game was literally unplayable and the single biggest reason I did not sub. No setting would change this drop either. I even did the ol "stare at the ground and try to increase FPS" but that didn't work.
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I am pretty sure you missed the point.He is talking AFTER the fact.He is saying ,that he has given them long enough and nothing is getting addressed.
Sure he ends it with a lewd remark,but his point,is that the game is NOT getting what he feels it deserves.That is arguable of course,personally i quit after 7 days,i saw the game needed more work than it could ever possibly receive,so i knew it had no hope.
I played ROM for 3 months ,hoping it would receive some effort and i was amazed at how crude the development team was towards the game caring more about their item mall than the game,so i quit.I very kindly sent in tickets of MANY problems and every time i got back answers that were either NOT related or they tried to dispute what i was saying,i was VERY frustrated to say the least.I felt like the GM's /support staff never even played the game,otherwise they would have understood my problems in a heart beat.
So i can see how this OP can feel frustrated,in my opinion [IMO],i do not give a game a second chance,all i need to see is SOME effort,if they just want to argue with me or call me a liar,than I'm out,and give that game no respect at all.Like i said i did not stick around FE long enough to even give them a chance,because it needed too much work,basically IMO a complete over haul and we know that will never happen.
I take my stance on a developer one step further,i look at the forums and see how the GM staff handles it and if they are helpful.If all they do is try to delete and hide problems,then i am out,i do not support crooked sneaky shysters.I much rather a developer is HONEST with it's players..ahem Aion do you hear me?.I like to think at least 50% of gamers are game saavy,they cannot be fooled by lies,then i hope those same people are not total fanbois that would support a lying or crooked developer,that is the only way we get respect from developers.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Sorry to derail, but you went ahead and said the magic words... Is it really good? Care to elaborate?
1 + 1 = 2... Unless it CRITS!
Sorry to derail, but you went ahead and said the magic words... Is it really good? Care to elaborate?
IMHO, yeah.
I've always hated questing. I've played ALOT of games too and never have I liked it in any of them until Fallen Earth. A quest isn't just a quest in Fallen Earth, almost all of them are chains and lead you around the world. They don't hold your hand, but they lead you around and the stories they give you a very in depth. Most of which end up in really nice prizes, sometimes not but most of the time. People tend to ruin this experience because most give AP and you need as much AP as you can get... so the great quests turn into a grind.
The are still your average MMO quests though, if that's what you mean. To me, they don't seem like them in the way they are presented to you. Mostly, kill this, gather that, go here, talk to him, etc. etc. etc. A few game specific unique quests here and there.
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I am not sure what the devs should be Listening to as most every fix it thread has people on both sides of the issue and honestly people who troll game boards like us are a real minority of the games population.
Damned if they do Damned if they don't, as anything they do impelement will leave someone unhappy.
For myself I have only been playing for about 3 weeks and I am enjoying the game so far.
Nope, I didn't mean anything, I just asked out of curiosity and as a fun of quests in MMOs. I haven't done any research on FE, was put back a little by its modernish style, but the quality quest thing caught my attention ;p.
Thanks for the info!
1 + 1 = 2... Unless it CRITS!
Bah, the lack of patience of people with developers ...
1. The devs have a very clear idea of what is needed to improve the game as there has been plenty of clear-cut player feedback.
2. They are still in the post-launch phase of the game, a few month after release
3. Their first priority is fixing bugs and overall improvement which they have been doing zealously since launch.
4. The first big content patch (dubbed 'social patch') is pretty much around the corner as well as the addition of more sectors.
So yes, flaming the developer at this time for not having implemented game changing content by now is unpatient whining in my opinion. If you played too much and your main is 45 and not interested in doing rep or pvp, go level an alt or take a break.
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Give them a couple more months. The game was just released and it was obviously released before it was ready (pretty much par for the course these days). They got a ton of work on their plate. Naturally the PR guy isn't going to come out and say "our PvP system is crap, we really need to work on that". That's just not smart business. I do recall somewhere in a recent interview that they acknowledged that the players want something better from the PvP system... of course its always going to be dressed up to sound better than it is.
I do admit I think its a bit silly to be developing new sectors and this "social" patch when so much of the game remains unpolished or poorly thought out. Major changes to PvP, the economy, a more robust map (a better waypoint system), etc should be taking priority right now over new sectors... and that doesn't seem to be the case. As you said you need to fix things from the bottom up, instead of piling more crap on top of it.
Honestly you might just check back in about a year. It seems to take about that long for a game to get to the point where it should have been at launch... if AoC, WAR, Darkfall, Vanguard, ect are any indication.
Seen you lurking on the Darkfall forums, from a former Darkfall player, i sincerely advice you to avoid it if you are hoping to find something better compared to Fallen Earth there, you'll be sorely mistaken. If FE ain't your thing, then maybe its best you wait for something new to come out.
Darkfall is a waste of 50$
Wow, most of you ignored the point of this thread entirely and decided to go bash his writing skills instead. Good job trolls.
In any case, like some pirate already said, take a break and play something else for a while.
Sorry to derail, but you went ahead and said the magic words... Is it really good? Care to elaborate?
IMHO, yeah.
I've always hated questing. I've played ALOT of games too and never have I liked it in any of them until Fallen Earth. A quest isn't just a quest in Fallen Earth, almost all of them are chains and lead you around the world. They don't hold your hand, but they lead you around and the stories they give you a very in depth. Most of which end up in really nice prizes, sometimes not but most of the time. People tend to ruin this experience because most give AP and you need as much AP as you can get... so the great quests turn into a grind.
The are still your average MMO quests though, if that's what you mean. To me, they don't seem like them in the way they are presented to you. Mostly, kill this, gather that, go here, talk to him, etc. etc. etc. A few game specific unique quests here and there.
This is pretty off topic, but I just want to point out how strongly I disagree with the underlined statement. I played FE for about three weeks before I quit. The one thing I absolutely could not stand was "x marks the spot" quest system. Most quests were well-written and interesting to do, I'll admit. But each quest had its own little red blip on my mini-map telling me exactly where to go at any given time. It removed any semblance of thought or exploration requirement on the part of the player and absolutely destroyed any immersion the game might have had for me.
To each their own, of course. FE is a lot better than most games I've tried, but the questing system provides far more hand-holding than I am willing to accept.
Yeah, FE and DF are 2 games that have tons of potential, but I don't think that either one has come close yet. DF has been out for a bit longer and they are a little bit ahead of the game.
I'm really hoping that DF and FE merge sometime in the future. What I mean is that I hope that FE becomes more like Darkfall and Darkfall becomes more like FE. Darkfall took the PVP first approach, FE took the PVE first approach. IMHO, FE would have been alot better if it had taken the PVP approach first instead, the world and lore just lend itself to PVP so much better.
Lets just hope that FE has the ability to get graphics upgrades.
It was launched with below market standard graphics and in a couple years, they are going to look alot worse as the rest of the games get better.
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You should have been in Park City these past days. Massive battles between FoE and the alliance of SoF, WoW, Suspicious Cheese and some others. Group PvP is kicking up a notch now that more get to lvl 45 slowly but steadily. I've been having a blast these past days. Fighting over that mansion, sieges going back and forth, rockets coming in from every direction, ... crazy stuff.
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Yeah, I read about that on the official forums. lol
Don't worry, FoE won't lose Park City. :-P
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FE is a good game, but suffers from the one thing the devs probably can't fix: the player base.
I had high hopes for this game and that it would draw in a more mature crowd, but that has not been the case. I had always assumed that immature players gravitated to mostly f2p games and FFAs like Darkfall or MO, but after playing a dozen games, I have a new theory: Sci-Fi games draw the more immature crowds.
Eve Online has one of the most objectionable and immature player bases I know and FE is not far behind. Spend any time in SWG, AO, Neocron, or Jumpgate and you'll see what I mean. I'm guessing STO, SW:TOR, and Stargate will attract the same type of people, which is unfortunate.
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