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Vote Kick Feature.

SinnocentSinnocent Member UncommonPosts: 43

I'm not seeing how this is a good idea at all. Sure, if someone sucks terribly at DPSing or something, youc can kick them. But it's only a matter of time before people start to abuse this system and kick people who can roll against them, or some other retarded reason.

Example: you and a friend join a group of 3 friends. They decide they'll vote kick you before the last boss dies because they're greedy and want the loot instead of letting you roll on it.

Now I'm not playing WoW at the moment, so I'm just guessing this could happen. Any thoughts?

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  • Frostbite05Frostbite05 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,880

    the feature has more positives then negatives. You just stated the only negative to this feature. Honestly you need all 4 people to vote yes to kick someone so It be rather hard to pull that one off.

  • SinnocentSinnocent Member UncommonPosts: 43

    So you need 4 people to vote someone off, instead of a majority like 3/5? That makes more sense, then.

    And that one negative is a huge negative. That's why I was asking.

  • CyberWizCyberWiz Member UncommonPosts: 914

    Since I haven't played WoW in a long time, anyone ware to elaborate on how this feature works? I can't imagine that the group leader is replaced by a democracy ... unless the group leader agrees.

    To the OP, if 3 friends already play together, they can always kick you as they run the group so in that case it does not really matter does it?

     

     

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  • SinnocentSinnocent Member UncommonPosts: 43

    Was just about to ask that too. Does the vote kick feature get rid of the party leader's ability to simply kick people, or what?

  • AlberelAlberel Member Posts: 1,121

    I got the impression the feature would only be available in random groups, just like how the loot system is locked in random groups.

    After hearing about this one though I honestly had a few flashbacks from Left 4 Dead... votekicking in that is abused beyond belief. Everyone has to vote against you but so many people are sheep and just vote for the kick without even thinking. The majority of the time if one person has a vendetta against you, you're out. :(

  • coffeecoffee Member Posts: 2,007
    Originally posted by Alberel


    I got the impression the feature would only be available in random groups, just like how the loot system is locked in random groups.
    After hearing about this one though I honestly had a few flashbacks from Left 4 Dead... votekicking in that is abused beyond belief. Everyone has to vote against you but so many people are sheep and just vote for the kick without even thinking. The majority of the time if one person has a vendetta against you, you're out. :(

    the feature is only in use in the dungeon finder (pug groups) normal grouping does not have a vote kick.

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  • VultureSkullVultureSkull Member UncommonPosts: 1,774

    The facts are:The vote needs 4 to voters to kick another member.The leader can not kick like they used to anymore.

  • TorikTorik Member UncommonPosts: 2,342
    Originally posted by Alberel


    I got the impression the feature would only be available in random groups, just like how the loot system is locked in random groups.
    After hearing about this one though I honestly had a few flashbacks from Left 4 Dead... votekicking in that is abused beyond belief. Everyone has to vote against you but so many people are sheep and just vote for the kick without even thinking. The majority of the time if one person has a vendetta against you, you're out. :(

    In WoW if you kick someone during an instance run, you probably add about 15-30 minutes to the length of your run.  People really hate waiting around while a replacement is found.  So I think people will try to avoid vote kicking people as much as possible.

  • legatona89legatona89 Member Posts: 7
    Originally posted by Sinnocent


    I'm not seeing how this is a good idea at all. Sure, if someone sucks terribly at DPSing or something, youc can kick them. But it's only a matter of time before people start to abuse this system and kick people who can roll against them, or some other retarded reason.
    Example: you and a friend join a group of 3 friends. They decide they'll vote kick you before the last boss dies because they're greedy and want the loot instead of letting you roll on it.
    Now I'm not playing WoW at the moment, so I'm just guessing this could happen. Any thoughts?

    This is exactly why I quit WoW: too much importance placed on dps meters and not actual skill. Most likely if they're running dungeons and they are in greens/blues they probably just hit lv 80 and are trying to get gear. Gearscore idiots who want to kick people instantly because they notice they aren't in all top tier gear make games worse and I certainly hope this is a trend that stays exclusively in WoW.

  • SinnocentSinnocent Member UncommonPosts: 43
    Originally posted by legatona89

    Originally posted by Sinnocent


    I'm not seeing how this is a good idea at all. Sure, if someone sucks terribly at DPSing or something, youc can kick them. But it's only a matter of time before people start to abuse this system and kick people who can roll against them, or some other retarded reason.
    Example: you and a friend join a group of 3 friends. They decide they'll vote kick you before the last boss dies because they're greedy and want the loot instead of letting you roll on it.
    Now I'm not playing WoW at the moment, so I'm just guessing this could happen. Any thoughts?

    This is exactly why I quit WoW: too much importance placed on dps meters and not actual skill. Most likely if they're running dungeons and they are in greens/blues they probably just hit lv 80 and are trying to get gear. Gearscore idiots who want to kick people instantly because they notice they aren't in all top tier gear make games worse and I certainly hope this is a trend that stays exclusively in WoW.

    I didn't say anything about someone having crappy gear. You can still be good DPS without the top gear. I'm talking about the people that don't know how to play their class and can't do good DPS.

  • lisubablisubab Member Posts: 670
    Originally posted by legatona89

    Originally posted by Sinnocent


    I'm not seeing how this is a good idea at all. Sure, if someone sucks terribly at DPSing or something, youc can kick them. But it's only a matter of time before people start to abuse this system and kick people who can roll against them, or some other retarded reason.
    Example: you and a friend join a group of 3 friends. They decide they'll vote kick you before the last boss dies because they're greedy and want the loot instead of letting you roll on it.
    Now I'm not playing WoW at the moment, so I'm just guessing this could happen. Any thoughts?

    This is exactly why I quit WoW: too much importance placed on dps meters and not actual skill. Most likely if they're running dungeons and they are in greens/blues they probably just hit lv 80 and are trying to get gear. Gearscore idiots who want to kick people instantly because they notice they aren't in all top tier gear make games worse and I certainly hope this is a trend that stays exclusively in WoW.

    What a mess of nonsense.

    What is actual skill in the game, your personal skills?  So you need to be a true marksman in the real world to play a hunter?  Does my personal sex and race also matter?  So WoW is a game in which when I fly, I am personally up in the air?  Oh MMORPG mean MMO personal skill gaming.  What an origin idea, and with you dare call others idiots.  LoL.  Oh mine.

    You need 4 people to kick you out of  a group of only 5; basically, you alienated all others.  In a normal group, if the leader hates you, the leader can kick you anytime and you have no say in it.  Now the leader need all other members to agree.  I say you are actually more protected in a PUG thru this mechanism than any other normal PUG.

    Gearscore idiots can kick you, but with the LFG tool you are back to another dungeon within seconds.  No big deal.  From my experience yesterday in 3 hours of random dungeons, I have yet to see loot arguments or issues.  Actually after rinsing through many groups with I forgot how many strangers I found them all to be far more mature and talk in much more respectable manner than the negative hate ridden writing you senselessly post here.  I would say I prefer endless random encounters in WoW than you indefinitely.

    If that is a trend, I would say, the WoW haters like you are getting more and more ridiculous, making the mediocre WoW community a much better source of company on the average.

  • LexiscatLexiscat Member Posts: 204

    I wouldn't kick anyone for lack of skill unless they were really detrimental to the current group and stubborn about taking advice.

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  • Ramonski7Ramonski7 Member UncommonPosts: 2,662
    Originally posted by Lexiscat


    I wouldn't kick anyone for lack of skill unless they were really detrimental to the current group and stubborn about taking advice.


     

    Hence the reason vote kick was introduced to the CS-LFG system. I personally have left groups where a leader would kick someone that was not up to their standards.....I just wish Blizzard would have thought of it soon and included it in ALL party/group settings

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