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Darkfall or Mortal Online? That is the question
I've not really been a fan of PvP but i have to say these 2 games entrigue me, However i'm not sure which one i should choose. Has anyone played both and if so which was your preference? I like the idea housing ideas in MO but i'm not too sure what the housing is like in Darkfall, i've seen a couple of videos on youtube regarding houses on darkfall but they don't show to much. Also which has the better crafting system? I'm just a bit dubious about the cost of the games, it seems a lot to pay for a game that i've not sure i'm going to like. Although i do understand that a trial of somesort would be a bit difficult due to the PvP free for all.
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Just do some research on the games yourself. When you do, you'll see that everything MO has, it doesn't really have "yet" and it's all promises. Basically, from what I can tell you're going to pay to play an Alpha, even if it is labeled a "Beta".
I was up in the air, like you, but I quickly went away from MO after reading their forums and seeing "this will be here soon, that will be in later, and this is cool, but it's not in yet!"
I'm not going to pay to be an Alpha tester. In the same sense, Darkfall launched too early but I got it a few days ago and am loving the hell out of it.
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Both have little in terms of helping the player at all in the start and actually all MO does is drop you in a town naked and expect you to learn everything yourself.
Darkfall, however, is so full of idiots that are alliance point whores (one guy guy paid me to let him kill me right after I started so he could LOSE alliance. wtf?) that you're going to get ganked so much it isn't even funny. At the very least, I hear MO has a better community.
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Alliance? lol You mean Alignment? That's not unique to Darkfall.
I haven't seen any Asshats or any indication of a bad community in Darkfall yet. Just a whole lot of helpful people and one Alfair ganker. But, the ganker didn't bother me. He killed me once so I followed him around and picked up his leftovers and made a pretty decent profit. Enough to get all the crafting tools and some gear.
He didn't even know I was there. hehe
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Darkfall.
I've played both, I'm currently a tester for MO. I'll say that down the road I think both games will be amazing, Mortal will probably be better. However, it will be a long time before Mortal is a great game, it lacks way too much at this stage. If you're eager to jump in, Darkfall is the way to go for now. Mortal can be fun but doesn't have much to do in game right now. If you can wait, pick Mortal, if not, pick Darkfall.
alliance point? Are you sure you play the game, they are alignment. So you say the entire game has a community full of idiots based off of someone paying you to lose alignment. Nice. Ganked so much eh? You might be the guy that keeps heading to the same goblin spawn when you know for a fact that its a hotspot at the moment.
I think we will have to wait on the discussion until MO has been out for around six months to a year.
Comparing it now would obviously end in DFO winning.
Comparing the ideas behind both games maybe could happen now but in reality who knows what will make it into MO before release.
I tried DF back when it was new and was very dissapointed. I knew of all the iface problems and bugs people discussed, but I thought "as long as there is PvP, even if its unbalanced, it should be fun!". Picked up two copies for both of us who live here.
What I found when I started playing was worse then I have ever imagined. You couldnt even talk people in to going out to PvP. Everyone stood in town shooting at the afk'ers who lined up nicely by the wall. You never seen people hunting monsters because of the horrid respawn times and crap loot. You never even PvP'ed because noone left the town, and if you were lucky enough to see someone in the wilderness, they were naked anyway because of the shared banks.
Then came their Bait and Switch scheme with the server transfers. If you havent heard, first they told NA players to "create on the EU server and we will accomodate you with server transfers when the NA server is launched". 3 months later they post "The NA server is coming soon! But there is going to be a delay of several months before we give you the transfers". At that point, I felt betrayed, because buying the game ahead of my NA friends ended up screwing me in the end because I would not have even bought the damn game if I knew I wouldnt be able to play with my friends at release. Then a week later, the best (or worst) part - they do another news post stating "Transfers will be on a 3 month delay, and there will be an additional charge of an undisclosed amount to be discussed at the transfer launch time".
That was the last straw. Not only did they betray the NA players by having a delay on our transfers after promising to accomodate us, but then they tell us they are going to CHARGE for it?! That is adding undisclosed charges AFTER we have already purchased! Which is a bait and switch.
I reported this to the credit card company, and told others on the official forums to do so as well, linked the relevant information showing that their posts in no way even hinted of possible charges for the NA transfers that were promised before release. Of course there was a huge backlash of fanboys claiming that it was ME that was doing credit fraud and that I would be in trouble with the credit company once they investigate.
You know what? About a month or two ago, I got a mail from the credit company stating that the team investigated my claims and read what they posted at the links I provided them, and they agreed that it was a bait and switch and informed me that the refund was now made permenant.
One more funny thing I should note - At the time they told us the server transfers were going to require charges, they claimed that "We can not offer free transfers because the EU and the NA servers rights to the game are owned by completely different companies". Which is obviously not the case because if they actually tried they would be able to refund your EU copy for the NA version or something similar. Best part of this scam - months later (which ended up being just about a month ago) they decided to put up free transfers. After claiming it wasnt possible for months...
That, combined with even the credit companies giving refunds for their fradulent actions, should speak volumes for how far you can trust the company(s) in charge.
I hear things have changed quite a bit and it's not as bad, but honestly, I'm not going to go back unless the game is still standing in at least another year or two. Even if things are "better" in those aspects, it still had alot of work to improve upon for it to be even half of what they advertized it to be pre-release.
I would probably give MO a similar amount of time as well, because they too are an independent company trying to do a larger scale MMO then is easily attainable - which isnt neccessarily a bad thing - supporting independent developers is a great thing for gamers as a matter of fact - but it's a huge risk to get involved early, because you never know if in under a year the game will be scrapped and you will be out the money you spent, and the time you invested in to your character. You are less likely to have companies trying to nickel and dime you the way Darkfall did as well.
Is MO even going to HAVE NA servers?
At launch?
If no, planned at some point?
alliance point? Are you sure you play the game, they are alignment. So you say the entire game has a community full of idiots based off of someone paying you to lose alignment. Nice. Ganked so much eh? You might be the guy that keeps heading to the same goblin spawn when you know for a fact that its a hotspot at the moment.
Were you the guy that posted in the other thread? Yeah, I admitted it could have been alignment. Just read what I said in the other thread.
Also, I said I was a Mahirim. Mahirim (and every one of my Mahirim guildmates told me) get picked on a lot. Especially around the main city.
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will it blend? that is the question.
If the iPhone will blend, so will Darkfall...and Mortal. xD
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MO's not released yet and I don't believe there is a solid release date. So, it really depends on how much patience you have to wait. Also, it's probably hard to compare at this stage because MO subject to still change quite a bit before it's actual release.
Way to early to tell, MO is not released yet and by the time it is released Darkfall will have had a lot of time on it. Comparing the two now is silly, comparing them at launch may also be silly like people who compared a brand new theme park MMO to WOW which is many years old...duh, oh course WoW has more to do and is more polished!
I think when MO comes out a big factor will be how well the launch goes and what made it into the game and working and then seeing how the devs handle things post launch. If things go well and the devs show a lot of love for their game, then it would come down to which game has the most potential and competent people backing it, Avertines Darkfall or Starvaults Mortal?
So for now I just wait and when MO does come out things will be interesting because right now the market is small and niche for this style of game and I dunno if their is room for two..right now. If MO was praised and launched well it could help draw people into this subset of MMOs, which would be good.
Well guys 1st i want to say thanks for the info and help. I understand it wasn't a great question to ask considering Mortal is still in Beta. I've been reading up on darkfall and i do think this game sounds very good. I'm downloading the client as i type. Hope fully i might see some of you on there (if you're european anyway)
Thanks again all
Next week Star Vault will come with a big content patch and also patch in the full crafting system and much more. Check the patch notes when it arrives. Expected thursday or friday. While waiting check out this unofficial MO trailer.
www.youtube.com/watch
Btw, I play in the MO beta and it's already more fun than DF.
They have said the second server will be a NA server. I don't know if they already at release will have one or not. But I think there is a good chance for it.
MO: In beta testing
DFO: Released for 10 months
If you are looking for a game to 'play' right now then get darkfall. Wait for Mo to release before you drop money on it unless you read up and decide that you want to help with the testing process.
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Next week Star Vault will come with a big content patch and also patch in the full crafting system and much more. Check the patch notes when it arrives. Expected thursday or friday. While waiting check out this unofficial MO trailer.
www.youtube.com/watch
Btw, I play in the MO beta and it's already more fun than DF.
I also own a copy of MO beta but never play it. I play Darkfall instead and I feel ripped off on MO. I think it's funny how each person thinks their own game is better xD I guess nobody is wrong - it just depends on what you think
Next week Star Vault will come with a big content patch and also patch in the full crafting system and much more. Check the patch notes when it arrives. Expected thursday or friday. While waiting check out this unofficial MO trailer.
www.youtube.com/watch
Btw, I play in the MO beta and it's already more fun than DF.
I also own a copy of MO beta but never play it. I play Darkfall instead and I feel ripped off on MO. I think it's funny how each person thinks their own game is better xD I guess nobody is wrong - it just depends on what you think
Did you bother to read the MO site when they started the whole preorder-beta thing? I did and i didn't bother to pre-order because i was informed as to the state of the beta, and how thing were actually being tested, developed, retested, redeveloped, etcetera and so forth. I don't know why people feel so betrayed..
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MO is already better than DF. Next week the BIG content patch arrives.
I would take an act of god to bring mo up to something that is going to be remotely commercially viable. DF has currently almost a year under their belt, and has the more complete game as a result; even with the morons at Aventurine about screwing it up over the course of a year and wallowing in their amateurish efforts. But the end-result has been the best breadth and depth of a player-centric ecosystem with deep and broad skill-based crafting, combat and building.
I'll be playing MO when they get to a point that its playable and engaging, but to imagine that's going to be within the next few months is silly.
Jarlaxo,
I have been testing games for 13 years and have played 22 MMORPGs. But I have nothing really good to say about Darkfall. Mostly because the driving force behind that project is lacking, or dare I say inept.
Each game is in different stages of their develpment and Mortal Online is not released yet, but has had an exceptional beta process. To me, with many..many years of gaming and testing, there is no choice.
Mortal Online is just a better developed game, with more competent Developers and a winning Platform. Mortal Online is vastly superior to Darkfall on all accounts, as Mortal Online is much more of a game, than what Darkfall offers...
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