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Anyone run 5970s yet?

RobgmurRobgmur Member Posts: 322

Has anyone got the new ATI 5970s yet? if so, whats to say about them from your experience?

*Corsair Obsidian Series 650D *i5-2500K OC'd ~ 4.5
*Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 mother board
* Radeon HD 7970
*8GB (4GBx2) 1600MHz Kingston HyperX
*240GB Corsair Force GT Series SATA-III SSD

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  • dfandfan Member Posts: 362

    Microlag iced with some more microlag, I'd stay away. 

  • RobgmurRobgmur Member Posts: 322
    Originally posted by dfan


    Microlag iced with some more microlag, I'd stay away. 



     

    Be more spacific. And did you actually use them or are you just talking smack because they're ''expensive''  and you're a rebel lol..

    *Corsair Obsidian Series 650D *i5-2500K OC'd ~ 4.5
    *Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 mother board
    * Radeon HD 7970
    *8GB (4GBx2) 1600MHz Kingston HyperX
    *240GB Corsair Force GT Series SATA-III SSD

  • dfandfan Member Posts: 362

    If you aren't familiar with the term, go google it. It's a fact that it exists. However, it varies how strongly people react to it, some don't notice it at all and for it makes all multiple gfx card systems totally unusable.

  • RobgmurRobgmur Member Posts: 322
    Originally posted by dfan


    If you aren't familiar with the term, go google it. It's a fact that it exists. However, it varies how strongly people react to it, some don't notice it at all and for it makes all multiple gfx card systems totally unusable.



     

    is this a problem with the 5970s in particular? I have dual one's coming sided with an i7960 proc. Bad idea?

    *Corsair Obsidian Series 650D *i5-2500K OC'd ~ 4.5
    *Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 mother board
    * Radeon HD 7970
    *8GB (4GBx2) 1600MHz Kingston HyperX
    *240GB Corsair Force GT Series SATA-III SSD

  • dfandfan Member Posts: 362
    Originally posted by Robgmur

    Originally posted by dfan


    If you aren't familiar with the term, go google it. It's a fact that it exists. However, it varies how strongly people react to it, some don't notice it at all and for it makes all multiple gfx card systems totally unusable.



     

    is this a problem with the 5970s in particular? I have dual one's coming sided with an i7960 proc. Bad idea?

    All dual gpu cards it at some scale, used to be much worse those.

     

    [quote]

    Radeon HD 5970 reviewed: Micro Stuttering

    Many had hope that the Radeon HD 5970 would not be affected by micro stuttering - the irregular output of frames to the display. This phenomenon is caused by the multi GPU rendering method AFR. With the Alternate Frame Rendering the graphics chips are taking turns in calculating full frames. Due to the different workload of individual frames it can happen, that several pictures are ready almost simultaneously, followed by a bigger time frame until the calculation of the next image is done. This results in frame distribution that feels like a lower framerate than actually is delivered. To put it bluntly: The felt framerate of the HD 5970 does not necessarily match with the real framerate.

    The degree of the micro stuttering can be compared to the predecessor Radeon HD 4870 X2 and thus varies between acceptable (Crysis Warhead) and catastrophically irregular (Call of Duty: World at War and Modern Warfare 2).

    Micro stuttering (aka Fake FPS in some forums) is recognized differently by every single person. Usually the problem gets noticeable with framerates below 40 fps and becomes obvious below 30 fps. Here the HD 5970 has a big advantage: Due to its huge calculation power it rarely drops to those frame levels if games are running in common settings. But since the graphically extraordinary Supersampling Anti Aliasing, which Ati advertises, lowers the frame rate below 30 fast, the problem comes into effect similarly fast.

    [/quote]

    http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,699630/Radeon-HD-5970-Review-of-the-fastest-DirectX-11-graphics-card/Reviews/

     EDIT: MEH WITH THIS SO CALLED FORUMSOFTWARE

  • sn0wblind00sn0wblind00 Member UncommonPosts: 388

    overkill for any game out now or any coming out in the near-term

    edit: in reply to the guy doing them as dual

  • RobgmurRobgmur Member Posts: 322
    Originally posted by sn0wblind00


    overkill for any game out now or any coming out in the near-term
    edit: in reply to the guy doing them as dual



     

    Yes i get that a lot. I'd amagine in a year or so a lot of people will be using them.  game's will become more and more advanced sooner and sooner i'm sure. I think with the duals i'll be set up fine for a few years to come i'd amagine

    *Corsair Obsidian Series 650D *i5-2500K OC'd ~ 4.5
    *Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 mother board
    * Radeon HD 7970
    *8GB (4GBx2) 1600MHz Kingston HyperX
    *240GB Corsair Force GT Series SATA-III SSD

  • TheHatterTheHatter Member Posts: 2,547





    Originally posted by Robgmur



    Originally posted by sn0wblind00

     

    overkill for any game out now or any coming out in the near-term

    edit: in reply to the guy doing them as dual



     

     

    Yes i get that a lot. I'd amagine in a year or so a lot of people will be using them.  game's will become more and more advanced sooner and sooner i'm sure. I think with the duals i'll be set up fine for a few years to come i'd amagine





     

    Never buy the first of a product.

    1. Over Priced

    2. Issues that will be fixed in later models

    3. Usually pumped up specs that aren't properly supported.

     

    AMD and ATI have a long history of doing this. They push out bigger stuff than Intel and Nvidia first, but don't properly build their products and just look to get gains faster than their competitors. More than likely, in a year, while your graphics cards will still run people are going to tell you that you're dumb for buying them.



    Personally, I would have went with the two biggest NVidia cards, rather than some pumped up ATI junk. I'm willing to bet in less than a few months NVidia is going to release a card that will absolutely destroy the 5970.

     

  • RobgmurRobgmur Member Posts: 322
    Originally posted by TheHatter






    Originally posted by Robgmur


    Originally posted by sn0wblind00
     
    overkill for any game out now or any coming out in the near-term

    edit: in reply to the guy doing them as dual



     

     

    Yes i get that a lot. I'd amagine in a year or so a lot of people will be using them.  game's will become more and more advanced sooner and sooner i'm sure. I think with the duals i'll be set up fine for a few years to come i'd amagine




     

    Never buy the first of a product.

    1. Over Priced

    2. Issues that will be fixed in later models

    3. Usually pumped up specs that aren't properly supported.

     

    AMD and ATI have a long history of doing this. They push out bigger stuff than Intel and Nvidia first, but don't properly build their products and just look to get gains faster than their competitors. More than likely, in a year, while your graphics cards will still run people are going to tell you that you're dumb for buying them.



    Personally, I would have went with the two biggest NVidia cards, rather than some pumped up ATI junk. I'm willing to bet in less than a few months NVidia is going to release a card that will absolutely destroy the 5970.

     

    I got a long term warrenty with the products i got. if they screw up or fail (if all goes well lol..) i could get them replaced or fixed. I hope anyways. I still hold some faith in our customer care from electronic manufacturers hahaha...hope is all we have at times

     

    *Corsair Obsidian Series 650D *i5-2500K OC'd ~ 4.5
    *Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 mother board
    * Radeon HD 7970
    *8GB (4GBx2) 1600MHz Kingston HyperX
    *240GB Corsair Force GT Series SATA-III SSD

  • chrisrobhay2chrisrobhay2 Member Posts: 114

    I was going to get two 5970s, but I decided to wait for the Sapphire 5870 Atomic Edition and use two of those with Hydra on the MSI Fuzion motherboard.  For those of you who don't know, Hydra is a revolutionary graphics card scaling method that can work so effectively that it can reach a 100% increase by going from one card to two.  The only problem with it is that it does not support dual-GPU cards (ie. 5970/GTX 295).

  • RobgmurRobgmur Member Posts: 322
    Originally posted by chrisrobhay2


    I was going to get two 5970s, but I decided to wait for the Sapphire 5870 Atomic Edition and use two of those with Hydra on the MSI Fuzion motherboard.  For those of you who don't know, Hydra is a revolutionary graphics card scaling method that can work so effectively that it can reach a 100% increase by going from one card to two.  The only problem with it is that it does not support dual-GPU cards (ie. 5970/GTX 295).



     

    nice, i could of used that info a few weeks ago lol..

    *Corsair Obsidian Series 650D *i5-2500K OC'd ~ 4.5
    *Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 mother board
    * Radeon HD 7970
    *8GB (4GBx2) 1600MHz Kingston HyperX
    *240GB Corsair Force GT Series SATA-III SSD

  • dfandfan Member Posts: 362
    Originally posted by chrisrobhay2


    I was going to get two 5970s, but I decided to wait for the Sapphire 5870 Atomic Edition and use two of those with Hydra on the MSI Fuzion motherboard.  For those of you who don't know, Hydra is a revolutionary graphics card scaling method that can work so effectively that it can reach a 100% increase by going from one card to two.  The only problem with it is that it does not support dual-GPU cards (ie. 5970/GTX 295).

    http://en.expreview.com/2009/12/14/msi-big-bang-trinergy-motherboard-crossfiresli-benchmarks/6092.html

     

     

  • noquarternoquarter Member Posts: 1,170


    Originally posted by dfan
    Originally posted by chrisrobhay2 I was going to get two 5970s, but I decided to wait for the Sapphire 5870 Atomic Edition and use two of those with Hydra on the MSI Fuzion motherboard.  For those of you who don't know, Hydra is a revolutionary graphics card scaling method that can work so effectively that it can reach a 100% increase by going from one card to two.  The only problem with it is that it does not support dual-GPU cards (ie. 5970/GTX 295).
    http://en.expreview.com/2009/12/14/msi-big-bang-trinergy-motherboard-crossfiresli-benchmarks/6092.html
     
     

    Damn the Hydra 200 chip didn't make it into that mobo. Keeps getting delayed guess they decided to release the Big Bang Trinergy without it. It's suppose to make it into the Big Bang Fuzion mobo in the next few months though. But the Fuzion is an i5/i7 mobo (socket 1156).

  • chrisrobhay2chrisrobhay2 Member Posts: 114

    The reason they delayed it is because the drivers did not support Windows 7, dual-GPU cards, DirectX 11, or the ATi 5000 series.  Since MSI did not want to rush it (unlike other companies), they forced LucidLogix to keep working diligently on the drivers.

  • PhallasPhallas Member Posts: 22

    all You ATI fan boys will be PWNED BY NVIDEA'S GTX 300

    I like ATI for supplying xbox 360 with a video card that was head and shoulders above any pc gfx card at the time of release.

    in fact ATI had said the video card for the xbox was 2 years ahead of anything they where going to release for pc, somthing tells me ATI is going to do the same for the next xbox, imagine that a gfx card  better then a GTX300 for a console, can you say "uber 50" inch tv ghraphics"?

     

    But when the time came Nvidia wiped the floor with ATI in pc gaming, And it will continue to do so with a the GTX 300 chips.

    Reports are already suggesting that Nvidea has done it again, it  is so much more powerful then the new ati cards.

    “If you make an ass out of yourself, there will always be someone to ride you” - Bruce lee

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  • dfandfan Member Posts: 362

    Rarely see such convincing  trolls, go do your homework boy.

  • chrisrobhay2chrisrobhay2 Member Posts: 114
    Originally posted by Phallas


    all You ATI fan boys will be PWNED BY NVIDEA'S GTX 300
    I like ATI for supplying xbox 360 with a video card that was head and shoulders above any pc gfx card at the time of release.
    in fact ATI had said the video card for the xbox was 2 years ahead of anything they where going to release for pc, somthing tells me ATI is going to do the same for the next xbox, imagine that a gfx card  better then a GTX300 for a console, can you say "uber 50" inch tv ghraphics"?
     
    But when the time came Nvidia wiped the floor with ATI in pc gaming, And it will continue to do so with a the GTX 300 chips.
    Reports are already suggesting that Nvidea has done it again, it  is so much more powerful then the new ati cards.

    Thanks for that wonderful trolling message that is completely off topic.  Also, we are not "ATi fan boys", we just go with whatever is the hottest card out, and right now it happens to be the ATi 5000 series.  I'm sure that you are right that the Nvidia GTX 300 series will wipe the floor with the current ATi cards, but by the time Nvidia releases them, ATi will be preparing to release enhanced versions of the 5000 series.  That, my friend, will be a battle like none other...

  • RobgmurRobgmur Member Posts: 322

    Was he right about the Xbox 360 having an ATI in it? i didn't know that lol.. anyways i doubt Nvidea will release anytime soon. I'm sure they'll try to fool proof it and make it 'quality' .. could take the release long after 1st quater 2010. and dual 5970's i've seen what they can 'do' ... i don't know how you can get tooo much better than that in terms of human comprehensioning skills lol.. but i'm sure they'll find a way. and if the new 300 series is way better than the 5970.. god knows how much that will cost. and i would sadly still buy it.. err them (2).

    *Corsair Obsidian Series 650D *i5-2500K OC'd ~ 4.5
    *Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 mother board
    * Radeon HD 7970
    *8GB (4GBx2) 1600MHz Kingston HyperX
    *240GB Corsair Force GT Series SATA-III SSD

  • chrisrobhay2chrisrobhay2 Member Posts: 114
    Originally posted by Robgmur


    Was he right about the Xbox 360 having an ATI in it?

     

    Yes, the Xbox 360 and Wii contain ATi graphics chips, while the only Nvidia-based console is the PS3.  Although, I have heard rumors that the PS4 will either switch to ATi or go to Intel and use their Larrabee GPU.

  • xwolf540xwolf540 Member UncommonPosts: 37

    lol @ Thread starter for asking a question on mmorpg.com

  • RobgmurRobgmur Member Posts: 322
    Originally posted by xwolf540


    lol @ Thread starter for asking a question on mmorpg.com



     

    lol yea man give me a break. Computer gamers tend to know a lot about computers and anything that has to do with gaming  

    *Corsair Obsidian Series 650D *i5-2500K OC'd ~ 4.5
    *Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 mother board
    * Radeon HD 7970
    *8GB (4GBx2) 1600MHz Kingston HyperX
    *240GB Corsair Force GT Series SATA-III SSD

  • sage69sage69 Member Posts: 40
    Originally posted by Phallas


    all You ATI fan boys will be PWNED BY NVIDEA'S GTX 300
    I like ATI for supplying xbox 360 with a video card that was head and shoulders above any pc gfx card at the time of release.
    in fact ATI had said the video card for the xbox was 2 years ahead of anything they where going to release for pc, somthing tells me ATI is going to do the same for the next xbox, imagine that a gfx card  better then a GTX300 for a console, can you say "uber 50" inch tv ghraphics"?
     
    But when the time came Nvidia wiped the floor with ATI in pc gaming, And it will continue to do so with a the GTX 300 chips.
    Reports are already suggesting that Nvidea has done it again, it  is so much more powerful then the new ati cards.

    0/10

     

    enjoy your GT300 woodscrew edition with 10% better performance and 25% more cost than a ATI card.

    by the time it is out ATI will be half way to market with the 6xxx series.

  • noquarternoquarter Member Posts: 1,170

    It'd be great if the GTX 300 series is faster and same price as the 5870. ATI would have to release a 5890 to compete at $400, move the 5870 to $300, 5850 to $230, 5770 would stay the same because nothing in the 300 series will be mainstream for 4 months.


    But my prediction is the GTX 380 will launch at $600, be 15% faster than the 5870 but not as fast as the $600 5970. ATI will release a 5890 for $500 at just under the GTX 380's speed, and the GTX 360 will be the same speed as the 5870 but $450, so no prices will come down because ATI won't feel any pressure from the overpriced Nvidia GPU's and we all lose until summer when some more product range comes out to push down mainstream prices at least.

  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,414

    Multi-GPUs always have some problems.  They really aren't necessary either.  An HD5870 will give you plenty of Oomf without the power draw, and it won't have problems working with Hydra which is the only real multi-GPU solution that's decent.

  • TechleoTechleo Member Posts: 1,984

      I wouldn't touch the 5970. To little improvement over the 5870 for my taste for the price increase. I'll be waiting until Nvidia releases there cards and the ATI cards price drop. Probably grab one of the 2gb 5870 series they have planned at Asus. I prefer Asus simply because there preOCed cards rock.

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