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it was going to be great !now who know?
drbaltazar
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this game was going to be great until microsoft announced dx11 and donnybrooks!
now who knows!unless arenanet do implement those technology i dont believe it can be successfull.
donnybrooks and dx11 are too big a leep forward to vbe ignored .lot of game that were bound to be released in the coming month will probably have to be delayed to implement those feature.
some player have been trying to tell us dx11 isnt a big thing or donnybrooks isnt a big thing
but when some youtube poster showed the difference ,the difference was so big ,the fact is it cant be ignored
the new amd/ati toy that make it possible to have 3 screen etc wont be a major factor
dx11 and donnybrooks are so big it make lotr(mmo game)futur expension saught for.
any that saw the battle of elmdeep or the tree fight against the white wizard saw that right now those battle couldnt be made in mmo
that was until dx11 and donnybrooks was made public
now the battle of elm deep could be made.and that is a major major thing in the mmo industry
1000 vs 1000 player in mmo we dont see that right now and if its there the resolution is so bad its just a nightmare
and if what is avail on youtube is true,the games using dx11 would look better and pack 10X the amount of player a given map currently has.
so im sorry but unless gw2 use dx11 and donnybrooks,as most futur mmo will do ,i m positive most player will probably stay with their mmo the play now be it darkfall,wow,eq2 etc
i sure will stick to the mmo i play now till dx11 and donnybrooks in mmo
even f2p game will be hurt by these 2 new technology,before they could cheat a bit and make it look soso
but the new toy is so big unless f2p game use dx11 and donnybrook they just wont be there at all
ea will probably be one of the only game in 2010 to use dx11 and donnybrooks in their popular mmo
be it ddo or lotr,as for the rest,we ll see.wow is about the only one that can hope to be able to keep their player the rest will go to dx11 ,donnybrooks mmo
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There's barely any point in DX11 from a graphic point-of-view, it's mainly great because of the optimisation(shown about 11-13 FPS increase in STALKER: COP using DX11). Not to mention, HD5870 has some problems with fake FPS processing.
Plus let's get real, people barely moved to DX10 and even that is pretty rare..so DX11 won't be a "tommorow's thing" unless they pull out a cheap, viable DX11 card.
Changing WoW to DX10-only at the moment would cut the population to 1-2 milions, nevermind DX11.
I can never understand this guy. What he says makes absolutely no sense and generally doesn't mean anything.
As for Guild Wars 2, I think it's going to do great... But that's just speculation. They do have some professionally well done trailers though, I damn well won't lie.
"IRL is a pretty upstanding MMO with thousands of classes, a lot of PvP and even some pretty unique emotes and titles you can acquire. Explore that world first, then we'll talk about this virtual one."
WTH is "Donnybrooks"?
http://www.districtlines.com/Donnybrook/Clothing/Pants ?
http://www.yelp.com/biz/donnybrook-new-york ?
I got DX 11 though.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
It won't affect GW2 whatsoever. This is an MMO remember, not some fancy ass FPS game here. Its all backward compatable and the average gamer won't tell the difference or even care.
GW2 certainly won't lose any popularity over this, none at all.
In a twisted way, he has a slight point...DX11 is here to clean the shitfest that DX10 was.
It packs some great optimisation features(threading support, bla bla bla) and could probably boost the FPS in a large-scale battle(while not being forced to tone down the graphics, although...with a DX11 video card, you won't need to do that anyway).
Or he might like tessellation(better rocks!).
Also Sarge, ironically, DX11 is a great thing for an RPG(far more than a FPS, unless it has an open world such as Crysis). I imagine Elder Scrolls 5 with DX11 support would look amazing.
you know the term "graphic whore"? you are one
AND a fail troll ofc
I bet a lot ppl can sacrifice some gfx for gameplay, including the thousands that STILL plat gw1 till today.
Adn the game gonna be released in 2011 who know, and nothing stop them to add it later
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So you are saying that people will not play GW2 because it has no DX11 support ? Are you insane or is this just a clever way in not giving ArenaNet their due for being one of the best developers today.
Mr. Google couldn't help me finding what donnybrooks really means in this context.
But remember MMOs rarely go for the latest technology available. This would not kill GW2, but you'd have a wave of people trolling the game because there is no support for DX11 (there is a difference between trolling and giving feedback, there will be obviously people requesting DX11 support without resorting to non-constructive posts).
Anyway, since the game is still far, far away from release it may be possible to see it on DX11 for release. The tessellation looks so awesome, along with all the enhancements.
In a twisted way, he has a slight point...DX11 is here to clean the shitfest that DX10 was.
It packs some great optimisation features(threading support, bla bla bla) and could probably boost the FPS in a large-scale battle(while not being forced to tone down the graphics, although...with a DX11 video card, you won't need to do that anyway).
Or he might like tessellation(better rocks!).
Also Sarge, ironically, DX11 is a great thing for an RPG(far more than a FPS, unless it has an open world such as Crysis). I imagine Elder Scrolls 5 with DX11 support would look amazing.
Well, I'll agree with you there. See that makes sense.. Age of Conan was on the right track, but what DX 10 currently is, is glitchy crap and I well prefer DX 9 over it (due to stability). I could see DX 11 delivering a much more immersive experience for RPG players (good example with Elder Scrolls) but like Sarge also said, it most likely won't be needed for Guild Wars 2 as the fan base is strong enough where they won't really care about the graphics as long as it looks nice and they can get their greedy hands upon it.
As a side note though... Who the fuck is Donny Brooks?
"IRL is a pretty upstanding MMO with thousands of classes, a lot of PvP and even some pretty unique emotes and titles you can acquire. Explore that world first, then we'll talk about this virtual one."
So all you guys are pretty comfortable with this whole donnybrooks term then?
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
I wouldn't be surprised if anet added dx11 for GW2. It's not comming out right around the corner, anet would have some time to get it implimented. And still, flashy =/= better. If GW2 had the same graphics as GW1 did, it really wouldnt be any worse. Personally, everone in my guild will be picking this up on release date, and not because of the graphics.
In a twisted way, he has a slight point...DX11 is here to clean the shitfest that DX10 was.
It packs some great optimisation features(threading support, bla bla bla) and could probably boost the FPS in a large-scale battle(while not being forced to tone down the graphics, although...with a DX11 video card, you won't need to do that anyway).
Or he might like tessellation(better rocks!).
Also Sarge, ironically, DX11 is a great thing for an RPG(far more than a FPS, unless it has an open world such as Crysis). I imagine Elder Scrolls 5 with DX11 support would look amazing.
Well, I'll agree with you there. See that makes sense.. Age of Conan was on the right track, but what DX 10 currently is, is glitchy crap and I well prefer DX 9 over it (due to stability). I could see DX 11 delivering a much more immersive experience for RPG players (good example with Elder Scrolls) but like Sarge also said, it most likely won't be needed for Guild Wars 2 as the fan base is strong enough where they won't really care about the graphics as long as it looks nice and they can get their greedy hands upon it.
As a side note though... Who the fuck is Donny Brooks?
I think he's talking about thiswww.youtube.com/watch
While for a bit there gamers seemed to drool over fantastic graphics like a dog watching someone eat a steak, but with the slew of terrible mmo launches that looked like a hot prom queen but turned out to have the depth of a puddle, really started to turn around.
Not having dx11 will never kill anything. Just because you get the ooohh and ahhhs from it doesnt mean everyone in the world can or will run out to buy the next generation of video cards, and I would boast to say that while some people can afford the latest and greatest, the majority of people run middle to low high gaming rigs.
People want depth to their game, they want a structure that once you look past the pretty graphics and the flashy moves there is enough substance to keep them going for the long haul. Games like Fallen Earth, UO, WoW, EQ and even the original Guild Wars show that people will still play games that have tons to do despite them looking like a nintendo game at times.
While some people will run off to see the latest and greatest and then fraps it to show how awesome it is they get 50 trillion fps under dx11, the majority of gamers will not.
My Guild Wars 2 Vids
In a twisted way, he has a slight point...DX11 is here to clean the shitfest that DX10 was.
It packs some great optimisation features(threading support, bla bla bla) and could probably boost the FPS in a large-scale battle(while not being forced to tone down the graphics, although...with a DX11 video card, you won't need to do that anyway).
Or he might like tessellation(better rocks!).
Also Sarge, ironically, DX11 is a great thing for an RPG(far more than a FPS, unless it has an open world such as Crysis). I imagine Elder Scrolls 5 with DX11 support would look amazing.
Well, I'll agree with you there. See that makes sense.. Age of Conan was on the right track, but what DX 10 currently is, is glitchy crap and I well prefer DX 9 over it (due to stability). I could see DX 11 delivering a much more immersive experience for RPG players (good example with Elder Scrolls) but like Sarge also said, it most likely won't be needed for Guild Wars 2 as the fan base is strong enough where they won't really care about the graphics as long as it looks nice and they can get their greedy hands upon it.
As a side note though... Who the fuck is Donny Brooks?
I think he's talking about thisLOL, and here I was thinking it was some random guy. Thanks for the clarification
"IRL is a pretty upstanding MMO with thousands of classes, a lot of PvP and even some pretty unique emotes and titles you can acquire. Explore that world first, then we'll talk about this virtual one."
http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Rory/Microsoft-Research-TechFest-Using-P2P-to-speed-up-multiplayer-gaming-and-other-things/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR40GwRtFyw
these will explain it all.the dude on second stream as lot of other video comparing feature etc etc etc
for naisayer he even explain in another video the difference
I get the whole "DX11 will be a great addition", but to think people will play GW2 based on whether or not it has it is extremely moronic. If people decide to stick with their games, it'll be for other reasons.
ah ok thanks guys.
Btw, the woman in the youtube video was just grating. *insertsomesortofscrunchedupfaceemotehere*
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
WTH is "Donnybrooks"?
http://www.districtlines.com/Donnybrook/Clothing/Pants ?
http://www.yelp.com/biz/donnybrook-new-york ?
I got DX 11 though.
donnybrook was shown a while ago in microsoft i havent found the new video channel 10 (microsoft)made last year so i supplied the technical one sorry if its a bit technobable.microsoft donnybrook not the blrawl thing in europe or the link you posted lol,it s for mmo
Well, I'm sure next year we'll see a solution: a cheap, reliable DX11 card.
This is hardly the problem tho.
The problem is that you'll experience so many crockblocks such as weak CPU if you try to simply plug in an extremely powerful card in an old computer.
In the end, you'll have to replace the most important(and expensive) parts of the computer such as CPU, RAM, etc to run the card at its max potential. I mean look at i7 dammit, a huge price and it's still pretty weak when you put it in front of ATI's high-end 5xxx's. OCing barely fixes the problem, and forcing an average gamer to OC isn't the brightest idea under sun.
Sometimes, I can see why people say "fuck PC gaming" and go buy a console. Microsoft, with its "We release a new innovative(more like artificial) software every 6 months" isn't helping either. After all, we don't spawn money.
why would they bother with gw2 when player know cataclysm is coming soon,i do hope gw2 is far far down the road like one poster say because right now lets face it most player i know are aiming for cataclysm comeback
so all other game will have to be insanelly nice looking or feature wow dont have
and dx11 and donnybrook are just the ticket
and if sale of w7 are any indication dont sweat it guys dx11 will be big fast
vista -dx10 combo was a flop
w7-dx11 is on its way to beat sale from day 1 to 60 days
(not that it would every be hard to beat those sale figure lol)
why would they bother with gw2 when player know cataclysm is coming soon,i do hope gw2 is far far down the road like one poster say because right now lets face it most player i know are aiming for cataclysm comeback
so all other game will have to be insanelly nice looking or feature wow dont have
and dx11 and donnybrook are just the ticket
and if sale of w7 are any indication dont sweat it guys dx11 will be big fast
vista -dx10 combo was a flop
w7-dx11 is on its way to beat sale from day 1 to 60 days
(not that it would every be hard to beat those sale figure lol)
They would bother with GW2 because Guild Wars 1 is an incredibly better game than WoW and GW2 is shaping up to be even better.
Still, that has nothing to do with DX11. Even with DX9, Guild Wars 1 still looks way better than WoW. Guild Wars 2 will only improve on that.
Windows 7 and Vista still don't control the majority of the OS market, and the people that actually have DX11 supporting graphics cards is incredibly small. Using DX11 or DX9 will have an insignificant difference on the sales of GW2.
Bad attempt at a troll.
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why would they bother with gw2 when player know cataclysm is coming soon,i do hope gw2 is far far down the road like one poster say because right now lets face it most player i know are aiming for cataclysm comeback
so all other game will have to be insanelly nice looking or feature wow dont have
and dx11 and donnybrook are just the ticket
and if sale of w7 are any indication dont sweat it guys dx11 will be big fast
vista -dx10 combo was a flop
w7-dx11 is on its way to beat sale from day 1 to 60 days
(not that it would every be hard to beat those sale figure lol)
They would bother with GW2 because Guild Wars 1 is an incredibly better game than WoW and GW2 is shaping up to be even better.
Still, that has nothing to do with DX11. Even with DX9, Guild Wars 1 still looks way better than WoW. Guild Wars 2 will only improve on that.
Windows 7 and Vista still don't control the majority of the OS market, and the people that actually have DX11 supporting graphics cards is incredibly small. Using DX11 or DX9 will have an insignificant difference on the sales of GW2.
Bad attempt at a troll.
The graphical style between WoW and GW are totally and completely subjective to be honest. So you really can't say one is better than the other without a high blinding sense of ignorance, no offense.
Also, I somewhat disagree that GW is better than WoW. There may have been a time where GW was better, but WoW keeps releasing new content frequently so there's always new stuff for their players to do. I don't know about GW, but it's been quite a long time since there was something "new" to do. Last expansion was Eye of the North. More content = longer lasting playerbase.
I agree however, that the use of DX11 and/or DX9 will be insignificant in the sales of GW2
"IRL is a pretty upstanding MMO with thousands of classes, a lot of PvP and even some pretty unique emotes and titles you can acquire. Explore that world first, then we'll talk about this virtual one."
Woah Drbaltazar...it's nice that you have enough money to upgrade your stuff every 6 months, but we aren't that rich.
At least I'm not, I can't afford to put in my rig everything Intel and Microsoft spits out...even if I do spend a lot of money on it sometimes. But not at this rate.
If GW2 will have DX11 that would be awesome. It looks so good i could kill my self.