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  • FariicFariic Member Posts: 1,546
    Originally posted by Toquio3

    Originally posted by iZakaroN

    Originally posted by evilgreen5


     Why would I want to pay for something that will no doubt fail miserably and shut down a year after launch? I'm not trolling, you all know this to be true.

     

    It will fail only if all people think like you. Its very nice that there are enough  (for now) peoples that support that game so SV collected enough funds to delayed release with one month.

    For peoples like you: GL with all "Britney Spears" commercial craps on the market.

    For peoples like me: Dont doubt, go support the underground m/

     

    Its not the players' responsability to ensure a game gets funded, we are consumers, not investors. If I envest money into a game, I'd like to get a cut of the profits when its out. But since thats not happening, why dump money into this? If they are this desperate and this is really the only way they can stay afloat, I agree with evilgreen5, this will tank, sooner or later.

    And that would be a shame, because I really want this game to succeed.

    If people didn't pay gym memberships then they would close.

    Cable fees,

    Phone bills,

    If no one was willing to pay for thier WoW subs, even Blizz would have to shut thier game down.

     

    By paying a subscription you're effectively investing in the game, without subscribers subscription based based games wouldn't opperate.  In effect you're an investor when you pay a monthly fee for something.

    It's more a matter of whether or not you feel the product is worth your investment by way of paying that monthly fee.

    Peronsally,

    I think MO is worth it.  It is by far the most original game to come out in a very long time, and one of the only true sandbox games since UO.

    If you're a fan of UO, or if you've been looking for a modern game along that line, and enjoy or simply don't mind the FPV and FFA PvP/ full loot then I would highly suggest purchasing this game.

    I highly recommend this game.

  • Toquio3Toquio3 Member Posts: 1,074
    Originally posted by Fariic

    Originally posted by Toquio3

    Originally posted by iZakaroN

    Originally posted by evilgreen5


     Why would I want to pay for something that will no doubt fail miserably and shut down a year after launch? I'm not trolling, you all know this to be true.

     

    It will fail only if all people think like you. Its very nice that there are enough  (for now) peoples that support that game so SV collected enough funds to delayed release with one month.

    For peoples like you: GL with all "Britney Spears" commercial craps on the market.

    For peoples like me: Dont doubt, go support the underground m/

     

    Its not the players' responsability to ensure a game gets funded, we are consumers, not investors. If I envest money into a game, I'd like to get a cut of the profits when its out. But since thats not happening, why dump money into this? If they are this desperate and this is really the only way they can stay afloat, I agree with evilgreen5, this will tank, sooner or later.

    And that would be a shame, because I really want this game to succeed.

    If people didn't pay gym memberships then they would close.

    Cable fees,

    Phone bills,

    If no one was willing to pay for thier WoW subs, even Blizz would have to shut thier game down.

     

    By paying a subscription you're effectively investing in the game, without subscribers subscription based based games wouldn't opperate.  In effect you're an investor when you pay a monthly fee for something.

    It's more a matter of whether or not you feel the product is worth your investment by way of paying that monthly fee.

    Peronsally,

    I think MO is worth it.  It is by far the most original game to come out in a very long time, and one of the only true sandbox games since UO.

    If you're a fan of UO, or if you've been looking for a modern game along that line, and enjoy or simply don't mind the FPV and FFA PvP/ full loot then I would highly suggest purchasing this game.

    I highly recommend this game.

     

    When I pay every month to codemasters for lotro, Im not investing into the game, Im paying for a finished product. I agree with your opinion of MO, but even if I had money to throw around (which I dont atm) I still wouldnt pay to beta or whatever  it is they are calling it. When / if the game is ready, I'll buy it, or not, depending on the information at the time.

    image
    If you stand VERY still, and close your eyes, after a minute you can actually FEEL the universe revolving around PvP.

  • stormpuma21stormpuma21 Member Posts: 131
    Originally posted by Toquio3



    Its not the players' responsability to ensure a game gets funded, we are consumers, not investors. If I envest money into a game, I'd like to get a cut of the profits when its out. But since thats not happening, why dump money into this? If they are this desperate and this is really the only way they can stay afloat, I agree with evilgreen5, this will tank, sooner or later.

    And that would be a shame, because I really want this game to succeed.

     

    I agree with this entire statement. I pay for "finished" products as well. My job didnt pay me to go to school and they certainly wouldn't have hired me before i recieved my degree. I didn't pay my car company to finish building my car to ensure it wouldn't stop working on my way to work.

     

    Gaming companies are taking advantage of their targeted market, gamers, by starting to have them pay for early access. We can only blame ourselves for allowing this to become a trend, and the way it is starting to look, the standard. I want to play the game as well, but i will not pay them to finish their product. The "payoff", for the company, is the subscriptions, after they put out a quality product. Not before.

     

    Imagine if every business company had such practices. Seriously. I wish i could go and half ass something and get paid for it. It's so ridiculous. Who fails to see how ridiculous this is? It makes my head hurt... The only counter argument i can think of would be, "its my money and i'll spend it on whatever i want". Go right ahead.

  • blackboxxDblackboxxD Member Posts: 11

    PLEASE GIVE THEM U MONEY 

  • Toquio3Toquio3 Member Posts: 1,074
    Originally posted by blackboxxD


    PLEASE GIVE THEM U MONEY 

     

    Sorry but I just dont want to.

    image
    If you stand VERY still, and close your eyes, after a minute you can actually FEEL the universe revolving around PvP.

  • GinkeqGinkeq Member Posts: 615

    Does Mortal Online have no instancing and World PVE/PVP?  It would be something if there was a real MMORPG that came out..

  • krowxxviikrowxxvii Member Posts: 177

    even if the game was discounted to 1 penny, i wouldn't buy it. it's that bad

     

    that's my opinion. and my opinion does not reflect the opinions of anyone else. just saying i really dislike this game. and people thought Aventurine and DF were bad.... if you plan on getting this game, be prepared for an unpleasant surprise.

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  • Southpaw.GamerSouthpaw.Gamer Member CommonPosts: 572
    Originally posted by krowxxvii


    even if the game was discounted to 1 penny, i wouldn't buy it. it's that bad
     
    that's my opinion. and my opinion does not reflect the opinions of anyone else. just saying i really dislike this game. and people thought Aventurine and DF were bad.... if you plan on getting this game, be prepared for an unpleasant surprise.

     

    The recent patch which was bringing the game close to release ready had some major flaws and the servers are borked until the devs get back from holidays.  However is saying that I disagree, I found MO even with an overall lack of things to do the most engaging MMORPG I have played in years.  

    Full Sail University - Game Design

  • krowxxviikrowxxvii Member Posts: 177
    Originally posted by Fariic

    Originally posted by Toquio3

    Originally posted by iZakaroN

    Originally posted by evilgreen5


     Why would I want to pay for something that will no doubt fail miserably and shut down a year after launch? I'm not trolling, you all know this to be true.

     

    It will fail only if all people think like you. Its very nice that there are enough  (for now) peoples that support that game so SV collected enough funds to delayed release with one month.

    For peoples like you: GL with all "Britney Spears" commercial craps on the market.

    For peoples like me: Dont doubt, go support the underground m/

     

    Its not the players' responsability to ensure a game gets funded, we are consumers, not investors. If I envest money into a game, I'd like to get a cut of the profits when its out. But since thats not happening, why dump money into this? If they are this desperate and this is really the only way they can stay afloat, I agree with evilgreen5, this will tank, sooner or later.

    And that would be a shame, because I really want this game to succeed.

    If people didn't pay gym memberships then they would close.

    Cable fees,

    Phone bills,

    If no one was willing to pay for thier WoW subs, even Blizz would have to shut thier game down.

     

    By paying a subscription you're effectively investing in the game, without subscribers subscription based based games wouldn't opperate.  In effect you're an investor when you pay a monthly fee for something.

    It's more a matter of whether or not you feel the product is worth your investment by way of paying that monthly fee.

    Peronsally,

    I think MO is worth it.  It is by far the most original game to come out in a very long time, and one of the only true sandbox games since UO.

    If you're a fan of UO, or if you've been looking for a modern game along that line, and enjoy or simply don't mind the FPV and FFA PvP/ full loot then I would highly suggest purchasing this game.

    I highly recommend this game.

     

    I'm sorry sir, but your logic is incredibly flawed...

    Have you ever heard of SaaS (Software as a Service)? MMORPGs are basically the definition of SaaS.

    It is up to the company to fund their own projects and receive support from investors (the investors invest their own money because they plan to receive a portion of the monetary gain, not because they get to use the service for paying the company a monthly fee). The consumer has nothing to do with the company's expenses. Consumers are there to bring in profit. Investors are there to collect on some of that profit.

    You can't use the tools if you don't know they exist...
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    http://www.spamcop.net - SpamCop.net - Report spam and scam emails.

    http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/ - Network Solutions WHOIS - Investigate and reveal suspcious websites.

  • krowxxviikrowxxvii Member Posts: 177
    Originally posted by Bainwalker

    Originally posted by krowxxvii


    even if the game was discounted to 1 penny, i wouldn't buy it. it's that bad
     
    that's my opinion. and my opinion does not reflect the opinions of anyone else. just saying i really dislike this game. and people thought Aventurine and DF were bad.... if you plan on getting this game, be prepared for an unpleasant surprise.

     

    The recent patch which was bringing the game close to release ready had some major flaws and the servers are borked until the devs get back from holidays.  However is saying that I disagree, I found MO even with an overall lack of things to do the most engaging MMORPG I have played in years.  

    I don't give a damn about their most recent patch. I played MO about a month ago, and it was (by my own opinion) a piece of garbage.

    I suggest waiting until SV offers a free trial (or a completely OPEN beta, not this limited alpha) before giving them any of your hard-earned cash.

    I'm not trying to prevent anyone from buying a game that they might enjoy playing. I'm just pointing out that this game is not worth the money in its current condition.

    You can't use the tools if you don't know they exist...
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    http://www.spamcop.net - SpamCop.net - Report spam and scam emails.

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  • GrayGhost79GrayGhost79 Member UncommonPosts: 4,775
    Originally posted by varrius


    According to the newsletter, until December 31st, the game price will be reduced for Digital Download and Boxed copies.
     
    Also, they are implementing a patch this coming monday December 21st, that will fix a majority of the problems we are experiencing.
     
    I ask you now, sandbox lovers, please support Star Vault.   They are going in the right direction.  If everything works out, and the funding is there, we will see a game that will be like-no-other.   So, if you want that game.  If you need that game.  It will not cost you much, please. .   I beg you, give them your money. 
     
    Newsletter



     

    Sorry oO I'm not into hentai LOL.

  • rafaelrehnrafaelrehn Member Posts: 235

    call me stupid but i never buy MMOs before release nor on the release day. I wait a month or 2 till the game is playable and the most rabid fans have left (yepp they the first ones to jump ship)

  • rafaelrehnrafaelrehn Member Posts: 235
    Originally posted by varrius


    According to the newsletter, until December 31st, the game price will be reduced for Digital Download and Boxed copies.
     
    Also, they are implementing a patch this coming monday December 21st, that will fix a majority of the problems we are experiencing.
     
    I ask you now, sandbox lovers, please support Star Vault.   They are going in the right direction.  If everything works out, and the funding is there, we will see a game that will be like-no-other.   So, if you want that game.  If you need that game.  It will not cost you much, please. .   I beg you, give them your money. 
     
    Newsletter

     

    Oh i just realised OP was trolling us: WELL PLAYED OP

  • Thomas2006Thomas2006 Member RarePosts: 1,152
    Originally posted by stormpuma21

    Originally posted by Toquio3



    Its not the players' responsability to ensure a game gets funded, we are consumers, not investors. If I envest money into a game, I'd like to get a cut of the profits when its out. But since thats not happening, why dump money into this? If they are this desperate and this is really the only way they can stay afloat, I agree with evilgreen5, this will tank, sooner or later.

    And that would be a shame, because I really want this game to succeed.

     

    I agree with this entire statement. I pay for "finished" products as well. My job didnt pay me to go to school and they certainly wouldn't have hired me before i recieved my degree. I didn't pay my car company to finish building my car to ensure it wouldn't stop working on my way to work.

     

    Gaming companies are taking advantage of their targeted market, gamers, by starting to have them pay for early access. We can only blame ourselves for allowing this to become a trend, and the way it is starting to look, the standard. I want to play the game as well, but i will not pay them to finish their product. The "payoff", for the company, is the subscriptions, after they put out a quality product. Not before.

     

    Imagine if every business company had such practices. Seriously. I wish i could go and half ass something and get paid for it. It's so ridiculous. Who fails to see how ridiculous this is? It makes my head hurt... The only counter argument i can think of would be, "its my money and i'll spend it on whatever i want". Go right ahead.

    I agree with you 100% But the sad thing is that as long as we (the customers) continue to support these poor habits of these companys they are going to continue to do it and its only going to get worse.  Whats next? We buy a game before it even enters development hoping that the development team / company can actually make a game? No there has to be a line drawn in the sand somewhere and this ridiculous practice has to stop.  Part of making a game is securing funding for your game, but that doesn't involve tricking your customer base into being that funding. If they need funding they need come out and say it and then ask for it / search for a source of funding.

  • blackboxxDblackboxxD Member Posts: 11

    IF U BUY GAME NOW U SUPPORT GREAT GAME SO IT CAN BE BETTER

  • Southpaw.GamerSouthpaw.Gamer Member CommonPosts: 572
    Originally posted by blackboxxD


    IF U BUY GAME NOW U SUPPORT GREAT GAME SO IT CAN BE BETTER

     

    If English isn't your first language then I can forgive you, but keep in mind most of the readers here on these forums are likely native to the English language... in saying that I agree with your message to support the developers of MO, however simply buying the game isn't needed since if they produce a good product it will sell itself.

     

    So before you cap-lock another poorly put together sentence please consider the fact your message may actually scare away potential buyers because they don't want to deal with such people like yourself who try to force their opinion on people.

     

     

    Full Sail University - Game Design

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Originally posted by Thomas2006
    Whats next? We buy a game before it even enters development hoping that the development team / company can actually make a game?

    Actually did some people here do that with SGW so it isn't next.

     

    MO did at least move their release date back a bit but MMOs shouldn't be released until they are done, it is ok to add content later but the game should work fine at launch and have enough content to be fun until it patches.

    Luckily for us a few companies are better than the rest, Guildwars 2 wont release until it is done. I hope the same for Biowares and Blizzards next games.

  • GrayGhost79GrayGhost79 Member UncommonPosts: 4,775
    Originally posted by Thomas2006

    Originally posted by stormpuma21

    Originally posted by Toquio3



    Its not the players' responsability to ensure a game gets funded, we are consumers, not investors. If I envest money into a game, I'd like to get a cut of the profits when its out. But since thats not happening, why dump money into this? If they are this desperate and this is really the only way they can stay afloat, I agree with evilgreen5, this will tank, sooner or later.

    And that would be a shame, because I really want this game to succeed.

     

    I agree with this entire statement. I pay for "finished" products as well. My job didnt pay me to go to school and they certainly wouldn't have hired me before i recieved my degree. I didn't pay my car company to finish building my car to ensure it wouldn't stop working on my way to work.

     

    Gaming companies are taking advantage of their targeted market, gamers, by starting to have them pay for early access. We can only blame ourselves for allowing this to become a trend, and the way it is starting to look, the standard. I want to play the game as well, but i will not pay them to finish their product. The "payoff", for the company, is the subscriptions, after they put out a quality product. Not before.

     

    Imagine if every business company had such practices. Seriously. I wish i could go and half ass something and get paid for it. It's so ridiculous. Who fails to see how ridiculous this is? It makes my head hurt... The only counter argument i can think of would be, "its my money and i'll spend it on whatever i want". Go right ahead.

    I agree with you 100% But the sad thing is that as long as we (the customers) continue to support these poor habits of these companys they are going to continue to do it and its only going to get worse.  Whats next? We buy a game before it even enters development hoping that the development team / company can actually make a game? No there has to be a line drawn in the sand somewhere and this ridiculous practice has to stop.  Part of making a game is securing funding for your game, but that doesn't involve tricking your customer base into being that funding. If they need funding they need come out and say it and then ask for it / search for a source of funding.



     

    I had hoped many had learned there lesson from Mourning and DnL. I swear some times that MMO gamers are the battered women of the gaming world. There gamers like me... I know they care about my enjoyment... they won't take my money and rush out a buggy product that lacks half the content and barely run.

    But hey, as long as there are gamers around ready to fork over that dough with nothing to show we have a chance at a 2nd or 3rd iteration of Mourning right? Recordable CD's with the beta client on it for everyone, just send me 3 easy payments of 19.99 also don't forget to sign up for our pyramid scheme, thats right we've teamed up with SGW's Whitting. But thats not all, act now and you can purchase a lifetime sub for Hellgate london for half price. The first 10 customers will recieve a postcard from France and a copy of DnL. But wait... there's more... several lucky customers will be double or even tripple billed for several months and denied access to the game.

  • stormpuma21stormpuma21 Member Posts: 131
    Originally posted by GrayGhost79  

    I had hoped many had learned there lesson from Mourning and DnL. I swear some times that MMO gamers are the battered women of the gaming world. There gamers like me... I know they care about my enjoyment... they won't take my money and rush out a buggy product that lacks half the content and barely run.

    But hey, as long as there are gamers around ready to fork over that dough with nothing to show we have a chance at a 2nd or 3rd iteration of Mourning right? Recordable CD's with the beta client on it for everyone, just send me 3 easy payments of 19.99 also don't forget to sign up for our pyramid scheme, thats right we've teamed up with SGW's Whitting. But thats not all, act now and you can purchase a lifetime sub for Hellgate london for half price. The first 10 customers will recieve a postcard from France and a copy of DnL. But wait... there's more... several lucky customers will be double or even tripple billed for several months and denied access to the game.

    Thank you sir for this post. I died laughing. *resurrects*

  • stormpuma21stormpuma21 Member Posts: 131
    Originally posted by Bainwalker

    Originally posted by blackboxxD


    IF U BUY GAME NOW U SUPPORT GREAT GAME SO IT CAN BE BETTER

     

    If English isn't your first language then I can forgive you, but keep in mind most of the readers here on these forums are likely native to the English language... in saying that I agree with your message to support the developers of MO, however simply buying the game isn't needed since if they produce a good product it will sell itself.

     

    So before you cap-lock another poorly put together sentence please consider the fact your message may actually scare away potential buyers because they don't want to deal with such people like yourself who try to force their opinion on people.

     

     

    This page has me rofl. Too funny.....

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