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ChainspellChainspell Member Posts: 55

I left the game at level 44, I started late in the game and yet I outleveled everyone in my legion, I got 43 and 44 in a span of 2 days. So no one can say that I'm not hardcore and that I don't know what I'm talking about. I leveled 18 hours straight at a time.

I left because something felt wrong with the game. Something felt broken. And the community sucked. I guess that's just not my type of gameplay. And the reason why Kinah is 1mil = 2 dollars is because money is so easy to make in the game. It's like it was created for botting in mind.

I can deal with RMT if its reasonably fair. Let's say I work for 1mil in Aion per hour (not that easy I know) But let's just say I can. Now someone who works for 10 dollars an hour in a real job can make 5mil an hour. So you see it doesnt make sense trying to make 1mil an hour when you can do an hour of real life work and get 5 times more. It's unfair and unbalanced.

So those of you who complain about why its so hard to make money in your MMO? Be happy, the system is working correctly.

 

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  • Lathander81Lathander81 Member Posts: 611
    Originally posted by Chainspell


    I left the game at level 44, I started late in the game and yet I outleveled everyone in my legion, I got 43 and 44 in a span of 2 days. So no one can say that I'm not hardcore and that I don't know what I'm talking about. I leveled 18 hours straight at a time.
    I left because something felt wrong with the game. Something felt broken. And the community sucked. I guess that's just not my type of gameplay. And the reason why Kinah is 1mil = 2 dollars is because money is so easy to make in the game. It's like it was created for botting in mind.
    I can deal with RMT if its reasonably fair. Let's say I work for 1mil in Aion per hour (not that easy I know) But let's just say I can. Now someone who works for 10 dollars an hour in a real job can make 5mil an hour. So you see it doesnt make sense trying to make 1mil an hour when you can do an hour of real life work and get 5 times more. It's unfair and unbalanced.
    So those of you who complain about why its so hard to make money in your MMO? Be happy, the system is working correctly.

     



     

    I think what you are expericening is what the game intented.  If it were hard to make money then I can see your arguement.  But its easy to make money and that should be a bot deturrent.  Instead people are so lazy they rather buy it.  If everyone is making money that stimulates the game economy.  Making it hard to make money would ony hurt the economy and make buying gold much more appealing.  But really I hear a lot of people say its hard to make money in Aion.  You have to remember your Hardcore not everyone is.  In your world of 18 hour gameplay I think anyone could make money lol.  But most people don't have that kinda time and are impatient.  Bots exist as a reminder of how lazy people really are. Instead of playing a game and enjoying all of it, they would rather pay someone to play it for them.  I will never understand this.

  • SacfedSacfed Member UncommonPosts: 210

    LOLZ 2 Days, you are so hardcore dude...your computer must smile at you the whole time as you stroke its keyboard so feverishly.  First off get a life, secondly, LOLZ your so hardcore.  Let me buy your waste of time account, hell only 2 days of play, you can get a refund.

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  • ChainspellChainspell Member Posts: 55

    lol do you actually bother reading stuff or do u just replace the words with whatever goes on inside your head? i had to read your message 5 times to get anything that correlates to my OP

    EDIT: okay I read it for the 10th time now, and I guess it seems to me that you thought my entire playtime was 2 days... i guess you can read fine, u just have trouble understanding. instead you replace whatever people are trying to say and form your own opinion on your opinion against the other person. make sense? guess u wouldnt realize it, they never do.

  • nomrawnomraw Member Posts: 146

     Chainspell... your a troll aren't you :D

  • ChainspellChainspell Member Posts: 55

    trolls never realize that they are, you should know that. just look at your post. read. think about it. maybe itll come to you. but you can stare at it for hours and ull never realize what you are.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,939
    Originally posted by Chainspell


    trolls never realize that they are, you should know that. just look at your post. read. think about it. maybe itll come to you. but you can stare at it for hours and ull never realize what you are.

     

    But your assessment is incorrect as money IS easy to make in the game therefore players won't be as compelled to take advantage of rmt.

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by Chainspell


    trolls never realize that they are, you should know that. just look at your post. read. think about it. maybe itll come to you. but you can stare at it for hours and ull never realize what you are.

     

    But your assessment is incorrect as money IS easy to make in the game therefore players won't be as compelled to take advantage of rmt.

    If it is so easy to make Kinah,why are RMT botters in the game in record numbers?Thousands of RMT sites opened up day 1 and Kinah sells on them cheaper than any other in game currency on the planet,that speaks tons of truth to the reality of the situation.Then you had further proof because they claimed to ban tons of bots in a very short time,they are that rampant,and they are that rampant for a reason,because they are selling tons of Kinah.

    The last i checked Kinah was 2-3 dollars a million,that is insane crazy cheap.

    I played SRO for over a year and everyone knows how bad botting was in that game,the worst i ever saw 20-1 bot to player ratio.You know how much gold was in SRO?$5 a million,so you can see even the easiest cheapest game to bot in sold currency for more than what Aion sells it for.

    Is it a surprise?Not in the least to anyone who played L2 and i was one of those,i even put a lot of effort into helping clean the game up but NCSOFT wanted no part of it,so they cannot be trusted nor the lies about the problem from players.

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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,203
    Originally posted by Wizardry

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by Chainspell


    trolls never realize that they are, you should know that. just look at your post. read. think about it. maybe itll come to you. but you can stare at it for hours and ull never realize what you are.

     

    But your assessment is incorrect as money IS easy to make in the game therefore players won't be as compelled to take advantage of rmt.

    If it is so easy to make Kinah,why are RMT botters in the game in record numbers?Thousands of RMT sites opened up day 1 and Kinah sells on them cheaper than any other in game currency on the planet,that speaks tons of truth to the reality of the situation.Then you had further proof because they claimed to ban tons of bots in a very short time,they are that rampant,and they are that rampant for a reason,because they are selling tons of Kinah.

    The last i checked Kinah was 2-3 dollars a million,that is insane crazy cheap.

    I played SRO for over a year and everyone knows how bad botting was in that game,the worst i ever saw 20-1 bot to player ratio.You know how much gold was in SRO?$5 a million,so you can see even the easiest cheapest game to bot in sold currency for more than what Aion sells it for.

    Is it a surprise?Not in the least to anyone who played L2 and i was one of those,i even put a lot of effort into helping clean the game up but NCSOFT wanted no part of it,so they cannot be trusted nor the lies about the problem from players.

     

    2M+0.2M kinah $ 11.69

    More like 6$ 1 mil , check the prices before u make a statement. The prices got higher because of the massive ban of the bots and RMT.

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  • nomrawnomraw Member Posts: 146
    Originally posted by Chainspell


    trolls never realize that they are, you should know that. just look at your post. read. think about it. maybe itll come to you. but you can stare at it for hours and ull never realize what you are.

     Sorry, I ain't as dumb as you to follow the "steps" that you just suggested. Either ways....lvl 43 in 2 days??? hmmm I wonder how u managed...prolly a total grind freak...and played during the double XP weekends..and one more important thing...everyone faces the money problem (if there is one...although I feel getting stigmas are a lot harder) but you rather grind ingame than spend in untrustworthy websites..

    You may assume that this is a "flame" post or you could grow up and face the facts.

  • CammyCammy Member Posts: 864
    Originally posted by Wizardry

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by Chainspell


    trolls never realize that they are, you should know that. just look at your post. read. think about it. maybe itll come to you. but you can stare at it for hours and ull never realize what you are.

     

    But your assessment is incorrect as money IS easy to make in the game therefore players won't be as compelled to take advantage of rmt.

    If it is so easy to make Kinah,why are RMT botters in the game in record numbers?Thousands of RMT sites opened up day 1 and Kinah sells on them cheaper than any other in game currency on the planet,that speaks tons of truth to the reality of the situation.Then you had further proof because they claimed to ban tons of bots in a very short time,they are that rampant,and they are that rampant for a reason,because they are selling tons of Kinah.

    The last i checked Kinah was 2-3 dollars a million,that is insane crazy cheap.

    I played SRO for over a year and everyone knows how bad botting was in that game,the worst i ever saw 20-1 bot to player ratio.You know how much gold was in SRO?$5 a million,so you can see even the easiest cheapest game to bot in sold currency for more than what Aion sells it for.

    Is it a surprise?Not in the least to anyone who played L2 and i was one of those,i even put a lot of effort into helping clean the game up but NCSOFT wanted no part of it,so they cannot be trusted nor the lies about the problem from players.

     

    Everytime you post you make yourself look worse.... you should just stop - but Ill throw you a bone anyways.

     

    Kinah is like... 1 mil for 12 dollars... give or take.

    There are almost NO RMT traders outside Panda/Sanctum these days.... I went a week and saw ONE trader - just one....

    Is it a surprise that you keep posting the same crap relating to L2 even though they are two separate games? Seriously I should just start saying... "well McDonalds does this and this..." What does McDonalds have to do with Aion? Nothing... what does L2 have to do with Aion? NOTHING.... stop spreading your bullshit on these forums every chance you get because your STILL bitter about NCSoft and the way it touched you that one night....

    Moral of the story? Bots, RMT traders, lag, etc, etc, etc, etc, almost all gone... no - the sky isn't falling no matter how hard you make it try

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,939
    Originally posted by Wizardry

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by Chainspell


    trolls never realize that they are, you should know that. just look at your post. read. think about it. maybe itll come to you. but you can stare at it for hours and ull never realize what you are.

     

    But your assessment is incorrect as money IS easy to make in the game therefore players won't be as compelled to take advantage of rmt.

    If it is so easy to make Kinah,why are RMT botters in the game in record numbers?Thousands of RMT sites opened up day 1 and Kinah sells on them cheaper than any other in game currency on the planet,that speaks tons of truth to the reality of the situation.Then you had further proof because they claimed to ban tons of bots in a very short time,they are that rampant,and they are that rampant for a reason,because they are selling tons of Kinah.

    The last i checked Kinah was 2-3 dollars a million,that is insane crazy cheap.

    I played SRO for over a year and everyone knows how bad botting was in that game,the worst i ever saw 20-1 bot to player ratio.You know how much gold was in SRO?$5 a million,so you can see even the easiest cheapest game to bot in sold currency for more than what Aion sells it for.

    Is it a surprise?Not in the least to anyone who played L2 and i was one of those,i even put a lot of effort into helping clean the game up but NCSOFT wanted no part of it,so they cannot be trusted nor the lies about the problem from players.



     

    Though it was very clear at launch that rmt traders were hitting the pavement hard with their wares, if you were to log in now you would see a HUGE improvement over all that spam and shops. Yes, they do crop up again and yes they do get hammered down again.

    They will always be there. All reasonably successful games have them. There will always be people who want the next big ticket item now instead of waiting a week. And since there are players who like to put items up that are extremely expensive there will be players who want the advantage.

    I don't craft and have no interest in the money making aspects of any mmo. I usually sell drops and vendor trash and am able to, in time get most everything I need. The only game where I had to work for my money was L2 and I finally gave that up as I hate spending my time on making fake money.

    Having said that, I've hit the 3 million mark several times without any actual effort whatsoever. Now, that is not going to pay for all gold equipment but the way I look at it, levelign is quick enough that I'm not going to be in my armor/weapon for too long. Therefore I don't fret over all golds. I usually have mostly blues. It gets the job done.

    I don't tend to die a lot so I don't pay a lot for healing. I do run places so in this way I can, at times avoid those costs.

    If one wanted to expend effort into certain types of crafting they would make a lot of money.

    However, in the end, one could be like me and get away with it just fine. If I find a weapon that is amazing I'll note the price and start saving. when I'm at the appropriate price point I'll keep my eye out for the item when it goes on the market again.

     edit: and getting back to rmt tradrers.. it's their job. It's what they do. As ayase said, there are a lot of them and they are very organized. There is good money to be made in these games. So since money IS easy to make they need to structure their operation so that they make sure to get a profit. There are players playing. There are also players, as I've stated, who want everythign now. Heck, I ran into a player who was not very high and decked all in gold gear. Now, he could have earned it but given his level I suspect that having everything gold might be more about buying it. Though to be honest I'm not too clear on the whole gold gear thing other than it's insanely expensive.

    In any event, there are always going to be people who will buy gold. So the rmt people are going to make sure they can get a piece of that pie.

     

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  • nevermore82nevermore82 Member Posts: 55

    Well, as much as your rants may be valid, consider this... what's happening in these virtual worlds is the same things that happens in the real world. People find ingenious ways to profit, sometimes borderline illegal... but that is not going to stop them from making money.

    Although Aion is just a game, it has a virtual world, with a virtual economy that is run by real people. No ruleset controls the markets, no A.I. defines what you can and cannot profit... if people are hardly "fair" in real life, would you expect them to be any better behind a virtual mask?

    You have 2 choices, either go with the flow and ignore botters / RTM traders or quit the game. As long as there's way to make a shortcut to some goal, human beings are always going to try and take that shortcut. Thinking otherwise is naive and utopical...

    It's like you complaining to your government that because you don't make as much money as a pro footballer he shouldn't be allowed to buy a ferrari before you had the chance to buy one... c'mon wake up and smell the coffee!!!

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,939
    Originally posted by nevermore82


    Well, as much as your rants may be valid, consider this... what's happening in these virtual worlds is the same things that happens in the real world. People find ingenious ways to profit, sometimes borderline illegal... but that is not going to stop them from making money.
    Although Aion is just a game, it has a virtual world, with a virtual economy that is run by real people. No ruleset controls the markets, no A.I. defines what you can and cannot profit... if people are hardly "fair" in real life, would you expect them to be any better behind a virtual mask?
    You have 2 choices, either go with the flow and ignore botters / RTM traders or quit the game. As long as there's way to make a shortcut to some goal, human beings are always going to try and take that shortcut. Thinking otherwise is naive and utopical...
    It's like you complaining to your government that because you don't make as much money as a pro footballer he shouldn't be allowed to buy a ferrari before you had the chance to buy one... c'mon wake up and smell the coffee!!!



     

    That's all very true. Nail on head.

    And in the interest of full disclosure, the govt. has forbidden me to make any more complaints about me not being able to afford the lifestyle of a pro-footballer.

    I'll just continue to write them about important stuff: "Dear Mr. President, There are too many states nowadays. Please eliminate three. P.S. I am not a crackpot.

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