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Demon's Souls > Dragon Age Origins?

I know, I know...this might not be the best place to hold this debate but....I love the feedback from you guys. I know no other place than to hold this conversation here. So without further ado, let me begin.

 

Dragon Age Origins was fun right? Of course if you didn't like this game its easy for you to decide. However...I am looking for feedback from various people who have played BOTH games, and have enjoyed them both. This, in my opinion, is the only way to get a definitive answer as to which game truly is better.

 

Another thing to note, while Demon's Souls does not incorporate the traditional dungeon raid "group" that can be found amongst MMORPGS throughout, it does has an impressive single player aspect. You can actually play with someone else by summoning them.

 

From what I recall in Dragon Age Origins, the majority of the game was completed solely because I had an almost infinite amount of Health Poultices...After helping the elves out, you could grab some elfroot from them, usually I would grab 9-12 99x stacks of elfroot, then run to Denerim and grab some flasks and a few stacks of Distillation Agent. Then I would manufacture them via Morrigan, who has the herbalism skill (Ultimately this can be done with any character, as long as you pick Herbalism as a skill)...

I forgot to pick up Wynn from the Circle of Magi, so for the last battle against the Archdemon, I had to use health poultice after health poultice since I had no other healer/mage in my party. This sucked hardcore, and would have been even more burdensome had I not made 400 health poultices right before I made way to the Landsmeet....

 

As for Demon's Souls...well Jeebus. I didn't have to worry about having a mage in my party because I could BE a mage, or I could be a turpentine sword wielding bad ass named Boba Fett the Third. Honestly, the replay value in this game is beyond count.

Every time I beat the game, I want to go back and beat it doing it differently. And it just gives me better strategies, game experience, and loot. The game, in my opinion, is for the tactical, and true gamer. I mean I had to incorporate strategies, such as with the tower knight, to run around the fool before he made a strike at me, and I had to watch his movements to create my own. I had to have reflex speed like no other, and man was that battle fun. If I could record my movements during that battle you can clearly see what I mean...He moves right, I move left, he moves left, I move right, he jumps towards me, I back flip back...its incredible (not necessarily my skill, but definitely what I had to do in order to kill him).

Now Dragon Age Origins has been getting A LOT of publicity...and I don't get it. Sure its a great game and I haven't had much RPG luck on the PS3, but Demon's Soul, in my opinion, is by far the best RPG I have ever played. I can even say it was better than FFVI or even FFVII.

What do you guys think? Constructive replies please, in your own words, which game you think is better and why. Thank you for your time.

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  • Gabby-airGabby-air Member UncommonPosts: 3,440

    I guess this is subjective, some hardcore RPG people i know absolutely hate bioware... never understood it but yeh. I'm actually quite looking forward to playing demons souls but i have a whole bunch of games to play and i still haven't opened dragon age so it might take awhile.

  • x3r0hx3r0h Member Posts: 186

    lol its funny you mention that because 2010 is the year for me. God of War III, Dante's Inferno, Final Fantasy XIII, Star Trek Online...and so much more....games that I've already pre-ordered and come out at around the same time...I don't know what to do with my time. And still SWTOR and FFXIV might even be ready late 2010 if we are lucky enough...WHAT DO I DO WITH MY TIME?!?!!?!

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  • Gabby-airGabby-air Member UncommonPosts: 3,440

    Lol i hear ya, just 2-3 weeks ago i was sitting on the computer wasting time on some random websites and now i have so many games to play it's stressful haha, but ye this year seems great for me too.

  • JosherJosher Member Posts: 2,818

     Very different games.  Dragon Age is a traditional story driven group based RPG.  Demons Souls is an action RPG.  Might as well say Zelda > Final Fantasy =)

     

  • sanders01sanders01 Member Posts: 1,357

     I don't have a PS3, so I would have to say DAO > Demon's Souls haha.

    Currently restarting World of Warcraft :/

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936
    Originally posted by x3r0h


    I know, I know...this might not be the best place to hold this debate but....I love the feedback from you guys. I know no other place than to hold this conversation here. So without further ado, let me begin.
     



     

    Here are two funny reviews (which I have posted before) on Dragon Age and Demon(s) Souls.

    Probably not work safe.

    Pick your poison:

    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1096-Dragon-Age-Origins

     

    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1321-Demons-Souls

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  • metalhead980metalhead980 Member Posts: 2,658

     

    I thought both were pretty good.

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  • GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035

    I don't own a PS3, nor have I even played Demons Souls, but I am going to go ahead and say it's better.

    Why?

    Because while Bioware knows how to make a decent game, and in most cases with really good stories, there is barely any difference in the way one plays to the next. My fav BW games being Jade Empire and Mass Effect simply because they *play better*. I feel the same way about Demons Souls simply because the game is more action-oriented. Sure DA has tons of blood splatter, but that's all fluff if I need to sit back and watch dude attack like it's an MMO... and really that't what KotoR and DA feel like, MMO combat (pleh).

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  • Lord_IxiganLord_Ixigan Member Posts: 548
    Originally posted by x3r0h


    lol its funny you mention that because 2010 is the year for me. God of War III, Dante's Inferno, Final Fantasy XIII, Star Trek Online...and so much more....games that I've already pre-ordered and come out at around the same time...I don't know what to do with my time. And still SWTOR and FFXIV might even be ready late 2010 if we are lucky enough...WHAT DO I DO WITH MY TIME?!?!!?!

     

    sorry to rain on your parade....but STO is probably going to be terrible. Just a warning.

    I'm kinda getting weird Pirates of the Burning Sea flashbacks whenever I see game footage for it. The space combat might be cool, but the land combat is probably going to be terrible. Or they'll both be mediocre with mediocre everything else.

    Of course the price won't reflect that, but I guess that's what you get. If it were up to me there would be better standards to decide on how a game can be priced. Meh.

  • tro44_1tro44_1 Member Posts: 1,819

    Dragon Age and Demon Soul get a tie

    Neather is all that great.

    Dragon Ages is what LOTR Conquest should have been.

    Demon Soul, is just too hard, and Clunky.

  • djazzydjazzy Member Posts: 3,578

    Would be nice if Demon Souls was on more platforms than just PS3. So since I can't play it I'll just have to default Dragon Age the winner.

  • tro44_1tro44_1 Member Posts: 1,819
    Originally posted by arenasb


    Would be nice if Demon Souls was on more platforms than just PS3. So since I can't play it I'll just have to default Dragon Age the winner.



     

    Dont worry. Demon Soul is a Renter, not a Buyier imo.

    The game just isnt all that.

    The main selling point in Demon Soul, is the fact that the game is Hard like crap.

    ((((((( AND MOST OF THE HARDNESS COMES FROM THE FACT THAT THE GAMEPLAY IS CLUNKY)))))))))

    Iam still playing it, because I enjoy the grinding and RPG value in the game. But other then that, I would never play it.

    Playing the classes are fun, which adds fun to the game, but Clunky Gameplay shouldnt be the exploited is the Selling point for it being a Hard Game

  • x3r0hx3r0h Member Posts: 186
    Originally posted by tro44_1

    Originally posted by arenasb


    Would be nice if Demon Souls was on more platforms than just PS3. So since I can't play it I'll just have to default Dragon Age the winner.



     

    Dont worry. Demon Soul is a Renter, not a Buyier imo.

    The game just isnt all that.

    The main selling point in Demon Soul, is the fact that the game is Hard like crap.

    ((((((( AND MOST OF THE HARDNESS COMES FROM THE FACT THAT THE GAMEPLAY IS CLUNKY)))))))))

    Iam still playing it, because I enjoy the grinding and RPG value in the game. But other then that, I would never play it.

    Playing the classes are fun, which adds fun to the game, but Clunky Gameplay shouldnt be the exploited is the Selling point for it being a Hard Game

     

    What do you mean clunky? Give me an example.

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  • x3r0hx3r0h Member Posts: 186
    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by x3r0h


    I know, I know...this might not be the best place to hold this debate but....I love the feedback from you guys. I know no other place than to hold this conversation here. So without further ado, let me begin.
     



     

    Here are two funny reviews (which I have posted before) on Dragon Age and Demon(s) Souls.

    Probably not work safe.

    Pick your poison:

    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1096-Dragon-Age-Origins

     

    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1321-Demons-Souls

     

    Those videos were very very true and extremely funny...very good stuff, i think im going to watch more of your reviews lol....had me roflmao.

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  • tro44_1tro44_1 Member Posts: 1,819
    Originally posted by x3r0h

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by x3r0h


    I know, I know...this might not be the best place to hold this debate but....I love the feedback from you guys. I know no other place than to hold this conversation here. So without further ado, let me begin.
     



     

    Here are two funny reviews (which I have posted before) on Dragon Age and Demon(s) Souls.

    Probably not work safe.

    Pick your poison:

    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1096-Dragon-Age-Origins

     

    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1321-Demons-Souls

     

    Those videos were very very true and extremely funny...very good stuff, i think im going to watch more of your reviews lol....had me roflmao.



     

    ROFLOL, I agree. the Demon Soul video was funny like crap. I said the same thing. LOL

    To the poster above,,,

    The controls are clunky, because, like the person in the video said, you Roll, to dodge attack, but thats pointless, since a Manual Dodge is better.

    Also you can fall to your death from Melee Swings alone, since it moves your character. (MELEE ANIMATIONS THAT EFFECT MOVEMENT!!! HAVNT WE LEARNED ENOUGH FROM AION AND AoC ABOUT THIS FLAW?)

    Then Boom start all over!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Also to Heal, you have to eat some plant stuff, but problem is, the ANIMATIONS ONCE AGAIN CONTROL YOUR AVATAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It stops your movement and Actions, which basically makes you defenseless, and likely to be attacked while in your Food Break Stance!! which basically Nulls the effect of using the Foood in the First Place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • pb1285npb1285n Member Posts: 505
    Originally posted by tro44_1

    Originally posted by x3r0h

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by x3r0h


    I know, I know...this might not be the best place to hold this debate but....I love the feedback from you guys. I know no other place than to hold this conversation here. So without further ado, let me begin.
     



     

    Here are two funny reviews (which I have posted before) on Dragon Age and Demon(s) Souls.

    Probably not work safe.

    Pick your poison:

    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1096-Dragon-Age-Origins

     

    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1321-Demons-Souls

     

    Those videos were very very true and extremely funny...very good stuff, i think im going to watch more of your reviews lol....had me roflmao.



     

    ROFLOL, I agree. the Demon Soul video was funny like crap. I said the same thing. LOL

    To the poster above,,,

    The controls are clunky, because, like the person in the video said, you Roll, to dodge attack, but thats pointless, since a Manual Dodge is better.

    Also you can fall to your death from Melee Swings alone, since it moves your character. (MELEE ANIMATIONS THAT EFFECT MOVEMENT!!! HAVNT WE LEARNED ENOUGH FROM AION AND AoC ABOUT THIS FLAW?)

    Then Boom start all over!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Also to Heal, you have to eat some plant stuff, but problem is, the ANIMATIONS ONCE AGAIN CONTROL YOUR AVATAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It stops your movement and Actions, which basically makes you defenseless, and likely to be attacked while in your Food Break Stance!! which basically Nulls the effect of using the Foood in the First Place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

    Are you kidding?

    Of course they have an animation for eating grass, this is so you can't just pop grass every time you take a hit. You have to time it correctly and hope the enemy doesn't charge at you. It is a valid game mechanic that adds to the strategic element.

    Not all weapons cause you to move, unless you do a power attack. This makes sense though since if you ever swung something heavy your momentum will cause you to move forward. Only a moron would swing a weapon towards a cliff anyway.

    I think Demon's Souls has near perfect controls. If you took Demon's Souls gameplay and Dragon Ages storytelling mechanics and put it online I think I would be in love.

  • tro44_1tro44_1 Member Posts: 1,819
    Originally posted by pb1285n

    Originally posted by tro44_1

    Originally posted by x3r0h

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by x3r0h


    I know, I know...this might not be the best place to hold this debate but....I love the feedback from you guys. I know no other place than to hold this conversation here. So without further ado, let me begin.
     



     

    Here are two funny reviews (which I have posted before) on Dragon Age and Demon(s) Souls.

    Probably not work safe.

    Pick your poison:

    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1096-Dragon-Age-Origins

     

    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1321-Demons-Souls

     

    Those videos were very very true and extremely funny...very good stuff, i think im going to watch more of your reviews lol....had me roflmao.



     

    ROFLOL, I agree. the Demon Soul video was funny like crap. I said the same thing. LOL

    To the poster above,,,

    The controls are clunky, because, like the person in the video said, you Roll, to dodge attack, but thats pointless, since a Manual Dodge is better.

    Also you can fall to your death from Melee Swings alone, since it moves your character. (MELEE ANIMATIONS THAT EFFECT MOVEMENT!!! HAVNT WE LEARNED ENOUGH FROM AION AND AoC ABOUT THIS FLAW?)

    Then Boom start all over!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Also to Heal, you have to eat some plant stuff, but problem is, the ANIMATIONS ONCE AGAIN CONTROL YOUR AVATAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It stops your movement and Actions, which basically makes you defenseless, and likely to be attacked while in your Food Break Stance!! which basically Nulls the effect of using the Foood in the First Place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

    Are you kidding?

    Of course they have an animation for eating grass, this is so you can't just pop grass every time you take a hit. You have to time it correctly and hope the enemy doesn't charge at you. It is a valid game mechanic that adds to the strategic element.

    Not all weapons cause you to move, unless you do a power attack. This makes sense though since if you ever swung something heavy your momentum will cause you to move forward. Only a moron would swing a weapon towards a cliff anyway.

    I think Demon's Souls has near perfect controls. If you took Demon's Souls gameplay and Dragon Ages storytelling mechanics and put it online I think I would be in love.

    Yes Yes,,, My Friend

     

    Like,,,,,, Auto Target+ Melee+ Narrow Cliff ==Fall to Death

    Ohh No!!!!!!!!!

    I eat grass to Heal in Combat, BUT IAM STUCK AND GOT HIT SINCE I CANT MOVE/BLOCK

    BASICALLY USING MY ITEM UP BUT WITH NO EFFECT OR WORST

    OHH NNOOOOO!!!!!!! Silly ME

  • SonofSethSonofSeth Member UncommonPosts: 1,884
    Originally posted by tro44_1                                                                                                                                                                     Yes Yes,,, My Friend
     
    Like,,,,,, Auto Target+ Melee+ Narrow Cliff ==Fall to Death
    Ohh No!!!!!!!!!
    I eat grass to Heal in Combat, BUT IAM STUCK AND GOT HIT SINCE I CANT MOVE/BLOCK
    BASICALLY USING MY ITEM UP BUT WITH NO EFFECT OR WORST
    OHH NNOOOOO!!!!!!! Silly ME

     

    I guess it is silly you. His explanation sounds much more logical and smart than your complaints.

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  • IlvaldyrIlvaldyr Member CommonPosts: 2,142
    Originally posted by tro44_1



    Ohh No!!!!!!!!!

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