I agree with some games, i cannot do it with other but i'm really astonished about 5th position: World of Farmercraft? This is not a true PvP or RvR game, it's only a PvE title with some PvP servers where people doesn't do free PvP. If you really like PvP there are a lot of games better than WoW (one of my preferred is a F2P game: RF Online: Three realms, a lot of free RvRvR zones - all mid/high lvls zones are RvRvR and a crap reason in order to do PvP /RvRvR: central mine And, yes, a lot of fun). And my number one is still DAoC (EVE is great, but too hard to play for a newbie).
I've played every mmorpg out there and WoW is the only one to have fun combat.
Highly doubt that, sorry bub. PvP in WoW is just far too limited compared to all the other games listed so far.
Here is my own personall list based on games i have played.
1. EvE online - its main focuss is on all forms of pvp be it 1v1 1v10 1000v1000 or even 1vmarket. Also this is the most developed pvp mmo with 6 years of content and treaking and ballancing. and best of all a newbie could expect to compete very quickly. And being on a SINGLE node based server means you cant hide your past as well [ so if you are a ganker and guild thief for example you will be found out if your guild leader checks up on your past via the employment history tab].
2. RF Online - not completly a pvp focussed game it did need you to pve in order to compete in pvp. It does however have a nice and fun risk free pvp system with effects on the wider world.
3. DAOC - a bit of a classic here need i say more?
4. Neocron - now i personally hate this game but it was pvp based. also your Avatars stats was not as big an issue as can be found in level based games, it had factions and it had a consiquence to death.
5. Darkfall - it is still undeveloped the graphics and animation is average at best. they have billing problems and it has a problem with its communit. But.....it is a pvp foccused game [probably more due to dev resources than by design] with player made factions with cities. Sadly tho its skill system is flawed [eve tried the same system where you leveled skills by using them but it was to easy to abuse].
Some herethat were mentioned but not on my list and why.
Shadowbane - True it had pvp but it no longer exists.
WoW - great pve focussed game easy to get into but its pvp was an afterthought and it shows [still who knows this may one day get fixed].
Guildwars - not a MMORPG as ITS stated by the games devs its a CORPG. and this is a list of MMO'S
Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981
lol, guess people haven't tried the new WoW Battlegrounds with mounted tanks and other cool stuff. And Alterac Valley is fun as hell. There is a lot of PvP in WoW that comes in different forms. What Darkfall has to offer? A possible gank right at the beginning and a barren boring world that has PvP once in a blue moon.
lol you writers at mmorpg.com really shouldnt bother writing lists. It always ends up with what we have here, pages and pages of people chest beating about why their favourite game isnt on the list.
It show that the one who posted the top 5 really had no idea of what pvp is :P
I know right? I mean how dare he share his opinion on what his top pvp games and what he enjoyed playing the most. In fact there should be no articles at all on this website or any other gaming site because they are all opinions.
Look chief, not everybody has the same preferences as you do. It's amazing people get so bent out of shape when someone doesn't share their opinion.
It show that the one who posted the top 5 really had no idea of what pvp is :P
I know right? I mean how dare he share his opinion on what his top pvp games and what he enjoyed playing the most. In fact there should be no articles at all on this website or any other gaming site because they are all opinions.
Look chief, not everybody has the same preferences as you do. It's amazing people get so bent out of shape when someone doesn't share their opinion.
Dan Quayle has opinions too. It's fine, as long as all of his articles are clearly signed with "Dan Quayle", so everyone knows the value to give to the article and to his list of the 5 best laws in the USA "by Dan Quayle".
Maybe it's time to look for other valuable mmo sites. Anyone has a link to share ?
This list is utter bullshit, eve on number one? and no darkfall... i don't even play darkfall ( i used to) but you don't need to pla darkfall to know that its one of the best PVP MMO's... -.-'
It show that the one who posted the top 5 really had no idea of what pvp is :P
I know right? I mean how dare he share his opinion on what his top pvp games and what he enjoyed playing the most. In fact there should be no articles at all on this website or any other gaming site because they are all opinions.
Look chief, not everybody has the same preferences as you do. It's amazing people get so bent out of shape when someone doesn't share their opinion.
Lmao, sarcasm much huh it doesn;t change the fact the op didn't know what he was talking about or really had no taste in pvp game. The fact UO is in and not asheron call, there's something wrong already.
I looks like you can't have a discussion about pvp without all the Darkfall fanboy nutbars coming out to take a whack at you if you don't proclaim it the king of kings and bow down to their God King Tasos. This is whats called an opinion piece. The OP's opinion may be different than others and more than likely he never played DF or Shadowbane or whatever else. Kind of hard, not to mention dishonest, to say such and such game has the best pvp if he never played the game.
My top 5 would be:
1. Pre-nge swg, primarily playing as a BH and killing Jedi, I liked the 1v1, non-zerg aspect of it.
2. EVE
3. Pre-BC WoW
4. Planetside
5. Hmmm...can't think of a 5th, the rest of the mmo's I've played, LOTRO/D&D Online/WAR/ etc., have had pretty crappy pvp.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
I used to love world PvP in WoW. There used to actually be people grouping together to raid against towns of the other faction, now you are lucky if you can find a group to get the achievement for killing the opposing factions leaders.
Now you hop in and out of battlegrounds or arenas if you want to PvP.
Sure, you could always go around ganking people who are trying to level but that's not PvP, its harassment at best and boring at worst.
WoW killed off their PvP as far as I'm concerned when they introduced BG's, arenas, and the honor system.
They should only have gotten an honorary mention at most.
Sure, you could always go around ganking people who are trying to level but that's not PvP, its harassment at best and boring at worst.
This made me laugh a bit. So in your world view, harassing players ranks above boredom? As in the worst thing a PvP system could be is boring, but harassment might be fine? Sorry, I'm not trying to troll or flame you, I just found this spectrum of player satisfaction odd.
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LoL at all 10 of the Darkfall shills trying to hype their game onto the list. Guess what, you can't include a game on a list when no one plays it, no matter how good it's PvP is. Warhammer should probably be subbed with GW but other than that, there is nothing wrong with the list.
DFO - One of the first MMO's to truly give that balls to the walls war. In the first month of DFO you had one large alliance attempting to conquer the whole of Agon which forced other alliances to form and wage war against them. There were ship battles, sieges, sneak attacks, traps, spies, espionage, sabotage, it was war and an epic one at that. The server war at DFO's launch is something that has never been seen in an MMO. Politics played a huge role, public opinion and support was something the major alliances fought for on a daily basis. Good will missions took place. The battles were truly bloody and epic. While you can say many things in regards to how bad DFO is, there is simply no denying what DFO has brought to the PvP MMO scene.
Never played DFO but this story reminds me very much of what happened in eve with the first war between BOB and goons. Similar thing with one alliance claiming they want to own all of 0.0 and eve splitting in 2 basically on who's side they where. hell that war is still technically going on today.
One other thing to say, while I'll never play wow despite the fact that every person i know in rl plays wow and they keep asking me to start playing and join their guild I sorta see why it's on the list. My friends have shown me plenty of videos of coompetitions with proffesionals vs'ing in arenas and whatnot which seem to outshine anything I've seen from any other mmo.
The other reason I can see it being on the list is that each game had a different reason for being on the list. havn't played some of these so just guessing from what I've heard.
wow - zerg funclub swarm
war - pvp at any level
ultima - player run pvp
DAOC - 3 sided constant war, RP loyalty
EVE - epic empire building pvp.
with this reasoning DFO didn't make the list purely cause it had the same reason for being on the list as EVE. I mean how boring would a list be if it was made up of only 5 epic empire building pvp games cause that's the best type of pvp (not that we have 5 of them.
Granted, the game was a huge grind, but the thing that excelled at,PvP, was far better than WAR.
Each server was a community, all clans/alliances knew each other and messing with the wrong guy would mean a forceful delete on your character because you wouldn't get out of towns too much.
There was drama, a fully open world with arenas, gate duels, world PvP, harsh death penalties(not so much now, but back then you could lose weeks worth of 8h+ gameplay/day if you were unlucky enough) and one of the best siege system ever done in MMOs.
I respect people's opinion, but when you put it up there, in a special section such as "News Discussion" you'd expect that the writer was a little bit more informed.
@ the LoLing about WoW being in the list. Vanilla WoW (pre-tbc...) was AWESOME. for those who remember good old Alterac Valley, massive battles on the field of strife ;D loved it, at the moment its more like 'RUSH TO CAPTURE GY = WIN' which unfortunately is.. =(
It was made as a PVE game and it sure is a PVE game... Theres no fun pvping in wow imo, tried it and left it. (Went back to L2 which is superior when it comes to PVP).
OK, you said the TOP FIVE. WAR doesn't belong on any list unless its the bottom five. If it was a TOP FIVE game it wouldn't be on the verge of shutting down after it was only 3 months old.
Anyone mentioning Darkfall needs to go play some pvp MMO's to see how bad Darkfall is. The game has potential, but has miles to go yet. The community is without doubt the worst I have seen in a MMO too.
Also hard to include Shadowbane, was far too buggy to be ever called a good game.
Pvp is highly dependent on individual tastes, hard for anyone to make a list that encompasses everyone.
Anyone mentioning Darkfall needs to go play some pvp MMO's to see how bad Darkfall is. The game has potential, but has miles to go yet. The community is without doubt the worst I have seen in a MMO too.
Also hard to include Shadowbane, was far too buggy to be ever called a good game.
Pvp is highly dependent on individual tastes, hard for anyone to make a list that encompasses everyone.
Dont be dissing Forumfall. Though it has definitely fallen into a slumb as of late, the community has always taken pride in its cut throat attitude.
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Sure is a lot of complaining about Warhammer in this list. It was my 2nd most enjoyable pvp experience, right after Guild Wars.
I've played every mmorpg out there and WoW is the only one to have fun combat.
Highly doubt that, sorry bub. PvP in WoW is just far too limited compared to all the other games listed so far.
Here is my own personall list based on games i have played.
1. EvE online - its main focuss is on all forms of pvp be it 1v1 1v10 1000v1000 or even 1vmarket. Also this is the most developed pvp mmo with 6 years of content and treaking and ballancing. and best of all a newbie could expect to compete very quickly. And being on a SINGLE node based server means you cant hide your past as well [ so if you are a ganker and guild thief for example you will be found out if your guild leader checks up on your past via the employment history tab].
2. RF Online - not completly a pvp focussed game it did need you to pve in order to compete in pvp. It does however have a nice and fun risk free pvp system with effects on the wider world.
3. DAOC - a bit of a classic here need i say more?
4. Neocron - now i personally hate this game but it was pvp based. also your Avatars stats was not as big an issue as can be found in level based games, it had factions and it had a consiquence to death.
5. Darkfall - it is still undeveloped the graphics and animation is average at best. they have billing problems and it has a problem with its communit. But.....it is a pvp foccused game [probably more due to dev resources than by design] with player made factions with cities. Sadly tho its skill system is flawed [eve tried the same system where you leveled skills by using them but it was to easy to abuse].
Some herethat were mentioned but not on my list and why.
Shadowbane - True it had pvp but it no longer exists.
WoW - great pve focussed game easy to get into but its pvp was an afterthought and it shows [still who knows this may one day get fixed].
Guildwars - not a MMORPG as ITS stated by the games devs its a CORPG. and this is a list of MMO'S
Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981
lol, guess people haven't tried the new WoW Battlegrounds with mounted tanks and other cool stuff. And Alterac Valley is fun as hell. There is a lot of PvP in WoW that comes in different forms. What Darkfall has to offer? A possible gank right at the beginning and a barren boring world that has PvP once in a blue moon.
lol you writers at mmorpg.com really shouldnt bother writing lists. It always ends up with what we have here, pages and pages of people chest beating about why their favourite game isnt on the list.
LMAO!!! Warhammer, WoW? hahaha...
Top 5 pvp Game.
1: Asheron's Call.
2: Dark Age of camelot
3: Shadowbane
4: Mortal Online ( yet im in beta!)
5: Darkfall.
Top 10..
6: Ultima Online
7: Everquest ( Rallos Zek server)
8: Age of Conan
9: WoW
10: Lord of the ring Online/ Warhammer
It show that the one who posted the top 5 really had no idea of what pvp is :P
I know right? I mean how dare he share his opinion on what his top pvp games and what he enjoyed playing the most. In fact there should be no articles at all on this website or any other gaming site because they are all opinions.
Look chief, not everybody has the same preferences as you do. It's amazing people get so bent out of shape when someone doesn't share their opinion.
I know right? I mean how dare he share his opinion on what his top pvp games and what he enjoyed playing the most. In fact there should be no articles at all on this website or any other gaming site because they are all opinions.
Look chief, not everybody has the same preferences as you do. It's amazing people get so bent out of shape when someone doesn't share their opinion.
Dan Quayle has opinions too. It's fine, as long as all of his articles are clearly signed with "Dan Quayle", so everyone knows the value to give to the article and to his list of the 5 best laws in the USA "by Dan Quayle".
Maybe it's time to look for other valuable mmo sites. Anyone has a link to share ?
This list is utter bullshit, eve on number one? and no darkfall... i don't even play darkfall ( i used to) but you don't need to pla darkfall to know that its one of the best PVP MMO's... -.-'
the list FAILS
I know right? I mean how dare he share his opinion on what his top pvp games and what he enjoyed playing the most. In fact there should be no articles at all on this website or any other gaming site because they are all opinions.
Look chief, not everybody has the same preferences as you do. It's amazing people get so bent out of shape when someone doesn't share their opinion.
Lmao, sarcasm much huh it doesn;t change the fact the op didn't know what he was talking about or really had no taste in pvp game. The fact UO is in and not asheron call, there's something wrong already.
I looks like you can't have a discussion about pvp without all the Darkfall fanboy nutbars coming out to take a whack at you if you don't proclaim it the king of kings and bow down to their God King Tasos. This is whats called an opinion piece. The OP's opinion may be different than others and more than likely he never played DF or Shadowbane or whatever else. Kind of hard, not to mention dishonest, to say such and such game has the best pvp if he never played the game.
My top 5 would be:
1. Pre-nge swg, primarily playing as a BH and killing Jedi, I liked the 1v1, non-zerg aspect of it.
2. EVE
3. Pre-BC WoW
4. Planetside
5. Hmmm...can't think of a 5th, the rest of the mmo's I've played, LOTRO/D&D Online/WAR/ etc., have had pretty crappy pvp.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
really supprised that darkfall was'nt there and that WoW was
PvP list with WoW in it? Ummm ...I'll have what he's drinking. IMO... And I play all five throughout the year.
5. Planetside
4. EvE
3. Guild Wars
2. Shadowbane
1. DAoC
I used to love world PvP in WoW. There used to actually be people grouping together to raid against towns of the other faction, now you are lucky if you can find a group to get the achievement for killing the opposing factions leaders.
Now you hop in and out of battlegrounds or arenas if you want to PvP.
Sure, you could always go around ganking people who are trying to level but that's not PvP, its harassment at best and boring at worst.
WoW killed off their PvP as far as I'm concerned when they introduced BG's, arenas, and the honor system.
They should only have gotten an honorary mention at most.
This made me laugh a bit. So in your world view, harassing players ranks above boredom? As in the worst thing a PvP system could be is boring, but harassment might be fine? Sorry, I'm not trying to troll or flame you, I just found this spectrum of player satisfaction odd.
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LoL at all 10 of the Darkfall shills trying to hype their game onto the list. Guess what, you can't include a game on a list when no one plays it, no matter how good it's PvP is. Warhammer should probably be subbed with GW but other than that, there is nothing wrong with the list.
Never played DFO but this story reminds me very much of what happened in eve with the first war between BOB and goons. Similar thing with one alliance claiming they want to own all of 0.0 and eve splitting in 2 basically on who's side they where. hell that war is still technically going on today.
One other thing to say, while I'll never play wow despite the fact that every person i know in rl plays wow and they keep asking me to start playing and join their guild I sorta see why it's on the list. My friends have shown me plenty of videos of coompetitions with proffesionals vs'ing in arenas and whatnot which seem to outshine anything I've seen from any other mmo.
The other reason I can see it being on the list is that each game had a different reason for being on the list. havn't played some of these so just guessing from what I've heard.
wow - zerg funclub swarm
war - pvp at any level
ultima - player run pvp
DAOC - 3 sided constant war, RP loyalty
EVE - epic empire building pvp.
with this reasoning DFO didn't make the list purely cause it had the same reason for being on the list as EVE. I mean how boring would a list be if it was made up of only 5 epic empire building pvp games cause that's the best type of pvp (not that we have 5 of them.
Into the breach meatbags
1. DARKFALL
simply the best pvp game I have ever played
2. EVE
its all about math here
Where's Lineage 2?
Granted, the game was a huge grind, but the thing that excelled at,PvP, was far better than WAR.
Each server was a community, all clans/alliances knew each other and messing with the wrong guy would mean a forceful delete on your character because you wouldn't get out of towns too much.
There was drama, a fully open world with arenas, gate duels, world PvP, harsh death penalties(not so much now, but back then you could lose weeks worth of 8h+ gameplay/day if you were unlucky enough) and one of the best siege system ever done in MMOs.
I respect people's opinion, but when you put it up there, in a special section such as "News Discussion" you'd expect that the writer was a little bit more informed.
This made me lol hard due to 2 reasons;
Wow is on the list (LOL).
L2 is not on the list (LOL AGAIN).
mkay?
@ the LoLing about WoW being in the list. Vanilla WoW (pre-tbc...) was AWESOME.
for those who remember good old Alterac Valley, massive battles on the field of strife ;D loved it,
at the moment its more like 'RUSH TO CAPTURE GY = WIN' which unfortunately is.. =(
It was made as a PVE game and it sure is a PVE game... Theres no fun pvping in wow imo, tried it and left it. (Went back to L2 which is superior when it comes to PVP).
OK, you said the TOP FIVE. WAR doesn't belong on any list unless its the bottom five. If it was a TOP FIVE game it wouldn't be on the verge of shutting down after it was only 3 months old.
Anyone mentioning Darkfall needs to go play some pvp MMO's to see how bad Darkfall is. The game has potential, but has miles to go yet. The community is without doubt the worst I have seen in a MMO too.
Also hard to include Shadowbane, was far too buggy to be ever called a good game.
Pvp is highly dependent on individual tastes, hard for anyone to make a list that encompasses everyone.
Dont be dissing Forumfall. Though it has definitely fallen into a slumb as of late, the community has always taken pride in its cut throat attitude.