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I really want to like this game, but it is just so boring
wilberg
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I love sci fi, but this game seems to just do it all wrong. ive tried the trial several times over the years and just cant seem to get into it. I hear about all of the excitement and drama involved with people stealing thousands of money from their corps and seeing vids of the large ship battles but actually playing the game is just a snoozefest. On the trial i remember clicking on an enemy ship, clicking orbit, clicking my gun, and basically waiting 30 seconds to approach, 20 seconds to kill it, and 20 more to loot. Mining was even more boring. Quests were very bland as well, just "go here, kill these" and the fact that movement is just sooo slow makes it even worse. It would be a bit more exciting if you had a character you could walk around your ship to see the interior, board other ships, and move around space stations, but man...
For those of you who currently play it, what attracts you to it? I just dont see the allure.
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I don't need to put 10,000hrs in a week to be competitive. Money is the grind and I can make money based on real life intelligence, not because I can put in 23hrs a day play time.
I don't NEED to be competitive at all.
I get bored quick, I can move on to do something else. I own 3 accounts and that allows me to pretty much do anything I want. You don't need 3 accounts, but if you're like me and have bad ADD, it helps. lol
If I want to go to the movies, go out to eat, or go anywhere... I can and be safe in the knowledge that my character isn't getting gimped because of it. I have my own corp and I'm the only one in it, so I'm not tied down by any operations or what not. I hang out in a channel that usually has 60-120ppl in it at all times, so I get my social there.
I actually was like you, till about 6 months ago. Then I started treating the game more like a hobby, than a game. When I did that, it became 10x more fun than it ever was trying to keep up with it like it was a grind game or something I had to play as much as I could. Now, I just play when I want, get my fix and go on about my life.
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Well for one thing, that there's a hell of a lot more to do than run missions in the central safe area.
EvE's PvE lacks sparkle. This is because the game is focused on player interaction. I noticed that you didn't mention other players in your list of things that you tried hint hint
Give me liberty or give me lasers
the simple thing that drags me in is the single server design philosophy what that can yield in a MMO.
The territorial warfare, the economy, the industry, the harsh death penalties all interplay to keep my long term interest. It is about the social groups and long term goals.
There is long periods of dull in the game punctuated by high excitement. If you want some excitement right now, it simply is not the game to choose. If you want a sense of accomplishment, building up something over a period of time, be it in the infrastructure or a reputation as pvper then it is a great game.
Yeah I've had the same problem every time I've tried to make myself get into this game, I just couldn't. I would asume it's due to lacking a corp to play with. That's the catch 22 of this game for me. The need to corp yet the atmosphere is so open to scamming and the like. You never know who to trust that comes along and invites you into a group or corp. Call me paranoid thats fine, however I've heard some horror stories about player interactions in this game.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
buy a expensive ship, go to the 0.0 regions and dodge the camps/gangs coming for you.
Find a corp, do stuff together and go on a roam with 20 people when you know a 80 man gang is nearby knowing you are there as well.
Join a alliance, get into alliance combat, knowing the next fight might be decisive for your alliances' future in that space. (even without thinking of the lag coming in the fight)
build a corp with friends, making it steadily grow until it becomes a powerhouse.
just some examples if you want your adrenaline pumping.
Even better: get a bit of experience and FC a fleet yourself, making sure you get your job done and everone returns safe. Seen people who complained that the game was too dull totally flip out when doing that.
What you shouldnt do if you are dependent on the atmosphere:
-do missions 24/7 till you get a burnout
-stay in NPC corp till you think you're th eonly one playing the game
-find friends.
If you just want a character with shiney armor, body to gasp at and a nice mount etc, then you would be better off with games like WOW, AOC, Aion etc.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
You are right of course, it suprises me that as many people get into Eve as they do, I recently discoverd that an old friend who was a WoW addict has suddenly gone mad over eve... I was shocked.
Its the truth about 'sandbox' games unfortunatly, these are games which make little effort to to keep new players attracted. I myself only got into the game because for months I heard some friends on teamspeak talk about what they were doing!.. even then it took me a year or so of coming and going. I wish I could reverse time and do it all over again, I'd do things so differently and probably enjoy it a lot more.
Theres nothing I can say really which will suddenly make you want to play it, Maybe in the future when Dust comes out, or Walking in stations is released... maybe they you will have something which will grab you enough attention to find the desire to play Eve.
The only thing I would say though is that the trial is not enough time, because to extract the best out of eve you really need to join a corp and play the game with other people... or even find some friends willing to buy the game with you. 14 days for the trial is barley enough time to make social bonds.
You realize you can do that with any game you play, right?
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As he said, I play since the launch, do pvp ever since, sene it all from frigate kills to titankills and although I am self sufficient like earning my money doing trades and stuff, I recently got myself into industry and newer content like wormholes and such, a new world in EVE opens up for me.
You can not learn enough in EVE during a short trial, you only get a quick impression of the game and you will keep on learning once you actually join it.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
Same here. Love the concept of Eve, and think it's probably one of the most accomplished MMORPGs in existence right now. But, regardless, I still can't get into it. I've played so many times since beta and have never *really* been able to get into it. I've joined corps etc and put the effort in, but just haven't really felt addicted to the game. Though I wish I was - it's supposed to be quite an experience.
Same for me, can count at least 4 trials. I guess its a taste question. Like color or music. Game's good, really, beatifull, shitloads of things to do. But doesn't hook me.
I wouldnt say its a 'taste' thing. if you've done 4 trials... hehe, well, it MUST be to your taste.
Your frustration echo's loud and clear... you WANT to like it, but for some reason you CANT. Its like as if everyone knows something that you dont, and its killng you
The only real way your going to understand is if you buy the game and join a corp, and join their audio conversations. Once you start listening to experienced players talking about Eve, their knowledge rubs off on you.. as does their commitment. One day someone will tell you something and you will go... really?.. you will try it for youself and go.. wow!.. the penny will drop and suddenly everthing will become clear.
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You realize you can do that with any game you play, right?
Name one besides EVE.
Obviously, that was an example. Last summer I took a month a half long trip to Cali. Drove over 4300miles, through 6 states sight seeing along the way. When I got to Cali, I drove from San Diego all the way up the coast to Monterey. (Not recommended.... about 100miles of that is driving in the middle of no wear on the side of a cliff
.... Big Sur is pretty though! lol) Stayed in Cali for about 3 weeks. Spring break, I have a trip planned to Las Vegas. This summer, I am spending the entire thing outside Atlanta, Georgia.
Name one besides EVE, I can do that where my MMO character won't suffer. Cause, I've played ALOT of games and I sure as hell haven't seen one. As long as I can log in EVE at least 5min once a week, I'm good.
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You realize you can do that with any game you play, right?
Name one besides EVE.
Obviously, that was an example. Last summer I took a month a half long trip to Cali. Drove over 4300miles, through 6 states sight seeing along the way. When I got to Cali, I drove from San Diego all the way up the coast to Monterey. (Not recommended.... about 100miles of that is driving in the middle of no wear on the side of a cliff
.... Big Sur is pretty though! lol) Stayed in Cali for about 3 weeks. Spring break, I have a trip planned to Las Vegas. This summer, I am spending the entire thing outside Atlanta, Georgia.
Name one besides EVE, I can do that where my MMO character won't suffer. Cause, I've played ALOT of games and I sure as hell haven't seen one.
So one of the great things about this game is not playing it?
But, that only works if 1. you have a skill that will take a month or so to train or 2. if you can log in to add more skills to your queue if you don't have one that will last long enough. Unfortunately, it doesn't change the fact that you still have to pay for the game time even though you don't play where as in another game you could stop your subscription and while you don't gain anything at least you aren't spending money for that month of idleness.
Unfortunately, the fact that you can have skills that take a month or more to train is much less pleasant when you aren't going on holiday and you are forced to wait for that skill training to complete with no way to speed it up or improve it. Want to fly a T3 ship? Then you have to train the skills and there is nothing you can do except wait for them though of course you could simply set them to train and go play another game for a month while it trains and then you could log in and set the next long skill and then go back to playing another game for a month and all the time keep paying your Eve subscription.
I like the idea that Eve has in skill training and I don't advocate instant gratification but skills needing over a month to train is simply too long.
I have also tried to get into EVE on several occasions. I love the concept and I love the Sci-Fi theme, but the actual gameplay was so slow-paced and boring I did not get hooked... despite my best efforts.
For me, if the game just moved a bit faster and there were not so many mechanics forcing you to spend most of your time watching your ship travel from place to place, the game would be MUCH more enjoyable.
It really isnt that bad.
If your not playing eve much, then the time goes by very quickly. And when you do come back its like... wow, I can now do..xyz.
If your playing Eve a lot, then you just forget about it and continue playing.... in anycase, until you character is like, I dont know.. a year old? You dont NEED to train those 30day skills. Seriously, if your training a 30 day skill when there are other more important skills that take LESS time time to train, then you are acting on incorrect advice. Or your under the mistaken impression that you need this skill training.
it may 'seem' daunting, but in reality its not that bad.
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You can easily fix that dilemma. Don't fly T3 ships. I don't and have 0 desire to.
But yeah, that's just part of my original post that was responded to. 1/8th of it actually.
I sat around and waited for Cruisers V and most of my other 30 lvl 5 skills. It wasn't a big deal, I had stuff to do in the meantime and could fly plenty of ships and use plenty of equipment, that made me effective. Most of the time, lvl 5 is just to get T2 items, T2 items are usually just alot cheaper than their T1 counterparts. About half the time, there are actually T1 items that are BETTER than T2 Items, just a whole lot more expensive and most of the faction gear is T1. So really, you don't need hardly any lvl 5 skills if you can supplement that time to train them for tons of money.
Don't want lvl 5 skills? Get lots of money. Comparable to anything in any other game. Take WoW, want T10 gear, but don't want to make lvl 80? You're SoL. Want T10 gear, but don't want to do the same dungeon 150,000 times? You're SoL. In EVE, want T2 items but don't want to wait for lvl 5 skills? Get lots of money and buy the T1 or faction counterpart. Battleships are still and always will be the most used big hitters of the game, they don't take but a couple weeks to get to. Unless you play WoW 24/7, then it's going to take at least a month to make lvl 80 your first time around.
Obviously, since you can afford T3 ships, then you don't have a problem buying all faction/T1 equipment. Right? Your QQing is fail.
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I tried the trial serveral times as well and bought subs each time but leave shortly after. I want to fly a SB but everytime I ask advise about them I am told not to bother and then I get bored and quick. It has happened 3 times.
Maybe its just not my game or maybe i am not giving it a fair shot. I am only like 3 weeks from finishing the skills needed to get an SB and be able to equip it with T1 parts (I know I need T2 to have a shot at decent PvP).
I like EvE, its fun being able to do whatever I feel like when I want, its just that what I want to do people tell me is not worth my time or effort. I have joined corps each time I subbed for the game as I know that is the only way to play a game like EvE but each time I am told that SB pilots are not useful most of the time and only play a small role in PvP combat and I should stick with Intercepters.
I am bored with EQ1 again and Do not want to play WoW like my Roommate is so I might give EvE yet another go but I just do not know at this point.
FYI - I like the sound of the SB, being able to hide and ambush during PvP battles sounds like fun but I also am told that SBs cannot do enough dmg to "PoP" most ships and that they are more for scouting then anything else which like I said before ends of turning me off the game and I leave.
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some quick facts about stealth bombers for you Tdog
whoever told you they need to be t2 fit is flat out lying. especially on the missile front. The best named siege missile launchers are fine.
They work best in groups of 7 or 8, a successful bombing run I think only have 7 bombs land on a target. This is enough to get a double plated BS into deep structure and may even pop some of them. They can also be quite easily dealt with by being aligned and ready to warp out if you see that many bombs heading your way.
They are quite situational and in the last few weeks i have seen them used terribly.
My advice would be to fly what you want to fly, not what people tell you to.
find the right corp , perhaps some pirates ..
i was being ambushed several times from those stealther while i was mining .
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You realize you can do that with any game you play, right?
Name one besides EVE.
Obviously, that was an example. Last summer I took a month a half long trip to Cali. Drove over 4300miles, through 6 states sight seeing along the way. When I got to Cali, I drove from San Diego all the way up the coast to Monterey. (Not recommended.... about 100miles of that is driving in the middle of no wear on the side of a cliff
.... Big Sur is pretty though! lol) Stayed in Cali for about 3 weeks. Spring break, I have a trip planned to Las Vegas. This summer, I am spending the entire thing outside Atlanta, Georgia.
Name one besides EVE, I can do that where my MMO character won't suffer. Cause, I've played ALOT of games and I sure as hell haven't seen one.
So one of the great things about this game is not playing it?
That's not what he said. He said that he could take a month and a half off from EVE and still be able to return and play with his buddies. IN most any other MMO, a player would fall so far behind that he would spend the rest of his time simply trying to catch up to his friends rather than simply playing with them.
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I'm not sure that making the warp speed faster, or even cutting out the need to move around the universe would make it any better or less boring tbh.
it IS space, and you do need to have a sense of space travel. Not only that a lot of people make a lot of money in game due to the lazyness of players so it is a game feature.
Eve just does have a long and gritty learning experience with everyone having a slightly different opinion and just wont suit a lot of people. and never will.
You know that most people never get scammed, right?
Give me liberty or give me lasers
It really isnt that bad.
If your not playing eve much, then the time goes by very quickly. And when you do come back its like... wow, I can now do..xyz.
If your playing Eve a lot, then you just forget about it and continue playing.... in anycase, until you character is like, I dont know.. a year old? You dont NEED to train those 30day skills. Seriously, if your training a 30 day skill when there are other more important skills that take LESS time time to train, then you are acting on incorrect advice. Or your under the mistaken impression that you need this skill training.
it may 'seem' daunting, but in reality its not that bad.
I have two characters with around 20 million skill points each and yeah you are basically correct in that if you are playing that you tend to not worry about it too much. The big problem though is the fact that the sill queue is only good for 24 hours so if you forget or get busy you come back to find that you haven't been training any skills for some period of time which is the double whammy of paying and not getting any advancement.
I have generally trained skills to be able to accomplish certain things such as the ability to fly a Hulk or to eliminate my refining losses or to fly a T3 ship and haven't generally tried to train a specific skill just to get that. But I still feel that making any skill take over a month to train is just simply too long.
I'm not sure that making the warp speed faster, or even cutting out the need to move around the universe would make it any better or less boring tbh.
it IS space, and you do need to have a sense of space travel. Not only that a lot of people make a lot of money in game due to the lazyness of players so it is a game feature.
Eve just does have a long and gritty learning experience with everyone having a slightly different opinion and just wont suit a lot of people. and never will.
I don't just mean the travel time. I think everything needs to be faster. There needs to be less down time and the combat needs to be a little more fast paced and reactive than it is currently. I just think everything moves too slowly in the game...
It feels like a really pretty space screen-saver with a chat system added on.
Typical. I wasn't QQing. Yes I can afford T3 ships and faction equipment and implants and unlike you I enjoy flying them as they are nice ships though I tend to be a bit cautious where I fly them as I don't want to lose them. That has nothing to do with the fact that I think that the training time for skills in many cases is too long. The fact that I have trained these skills and can fly pretty much any ship that I want and really don't have to worry about it much any more doesn't change the fact that I can see it being a problem for other players. CCP has made some changes and improvements over the years to help keep new players in the game and I feel that they need to look at the skill system a bit more still.
Overall I like the skills, the number of skills the type of skills and even the levels. I like the complexity and how they interact with each other and the fact that it does take some time and effort to get them. I just also think that some of them take too long.