LOL almost 85% of the content is locked unless you buy it or go VIP. hontestly this is why i quit,because it is NOT a true F2P mmo imo. A true f2p mmo has 75% of the content already unlocked at least if not all to be f2p...just goes to show that Video games are going the way of hollywood movies HA!.
Ah, do you people know a thing about Free to Play MMOs? Do you really think there are MMO games which are 100% free?
No, there's none. And there won't be any. But "Free to Play" is an accurate term - it means just that: you are able to play for free. Get used to it, it's not like developers depend on charity or donations for their hard, daily and past-time work.
And when it comes to being "free", DDO does it best - it's actually the only F2P MMO in which playing 100% for free is possible at all. On our portal we're even organizing events which help people earn Turbine Points for free on, all servers.
Honestly I think Runes of Magic does it better. At least Most of the GAME world is unlocked. Dont get me wrong I enjoyed DDO very much but hit a bump in the road about lvl 11ish or so where it was just not my Flavor of ice cream anymore. And I do understand that even F2P games need to make there profit some where.
Stop the scam of calling any of these games "free to play" and use the correct honest term MICROTRANSACTION Anyone who really thinks these games are ment to be "free" needs to realize no business would EVER make a game with no ability to generate PROFIT. Wake up people, nothing in the business world is free.
Wrong.
By "free" they mean first you do not have to purchase the product. its free to download.
Second it doesnt have a mandatory subscription.
In fact, DDO is one of the few mmo's that is truly free. most f2p restrict access to items and the only way to get them is to make a real money transaction.
With DDO you can earn the tokens in game or buy them with real money.
As to the quality of the game... yea, its true DDO is an MMO which had the development of a regular MMO, so its hard to deny it should win this. But it doesnt detract from the truth, it IS the best.
Very few F2P games have dx10 graphics and in-game voice support.... jesus, most Paid MMO's dont have dx10 and ingame voice.. and thats just for starters.
Not only is DDO by far the best F2P MMO but its easily in the top 5 of best MMOs overall. Grats Turbine, its nice to see that a MMO with some challenge can be sucesfull aswell
Exactly : ). But this game is just too hard for many people, who are used to Blizzard's spoon feeding. So they leave it and return to their simple MMOs. Yup, there's no carebears and no spoon feeding in DDO! You're on your own, beware!
I guess that's the reason it has user rating of 8.1 now, 0.1 more than its MMORPG rating here. Those who aren't able / are too lazy to learn DDO generally don't even trouble themselves with writing an honest review...
By "free" they mean first you do not have to purchase the product. its free to download. Second it doesnt have a mandatory subscription.
Agreed, this is all F2P means. You can get the game for free and it's free of a monthly sub fee. That's it. Of course all F2P games are not really free, and have microtransactions. DDO is a fantastic game, grats to Turbine.
"Biggest P2P MMO fail to go F2P as a last ditch effort to stay afloat award"
It all fairness DDO had money coming in for a while before it went free to play. other free to play games don't have that luxury. I know DDO wasn't making money hand over fist but between the cost of the game and the few years of subs, I'm sure that paid for the cost to make the game. that left a professionally developed game to be ported to the F2P system.
It would be like a Olympic Athlete winning all the games at a family picnic, sure he PWN'ed the family but he paid for the training.
This award should go to a game make from scratch to be a F2P game. DDO is a great F2P, but if other games that were P2P the past went F2P, how would DDO stack up?
How can you call this game the best free to play? Its not even fully free to play. They make you pay at some point later in the game if you wish to contuine with your character. A free to play game does not charge to keep playing. They may have a cash shop but you dont have to buy to play. Thats a free to play game.
Ummm... if DDO isn't ftp, no game is ftp. And no, you don't have to pay to advance. You can get the necessary tokens to advance through quests; you don't have to buy them.
I've met level 20 characters that have not spent one cent. Personally, I like a lot of the items in the cash shop, and some of them are a fair price(yes, some a are ridiculous and no one buys them).
If you did want to buy the AP's its actually cheaper to buy the APs, than to subscribe for a year. DDO, actually hoses its VIP members. I'm about to drop my VIP status, because the cash shop is cheaper in the long run.
This game is absolutely f2p 100%, and they don't make you pay to continue playing.
You don't think it's a bit odd the best free to play game wasn't designed to be free to play? What does that say about the ones that were?
Well, I think its bad form to take a P2P game that tanked to the point they felt the need to make it free to play and call it the Best F2P MMO of 2009.
I feel the award should have gone to games designed to be F2P from the start, but hey, its not my site.
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I think the protests in this thread are entirely unwarranted. DDO is clearly head and shoulders above the rest of the f2p field because it was designed as a p2p and has decent content unlike it's other f2p competitors.
Awarding DDO as the best f2p was clearly the right thing to do. How anyone can dispute this is unclear to me.
While I think it's unfair to judge DDO against designed from the ground up F2p games, I do think Turbine did a great job in switching it over and deserves some credit for that. Is it the best F2p 2009 game? Well from the others I've played it is and yes that has a lot to do with it starting out as a P2p game.
And it wasn't dieing because it was a horrible game, it was dieing because of the limited new content being put into it. You can only run the same dungeons over and over and over again so many times. As a P2p game I found the money worth factor to be lacking for just that reason, also it's not a game you play every single day as most are. It really did / does follow in the same line as the P&P game in that you get together once a week and play, then put it away until next week. Was that worth the $15.00 a month being played like that? No.
But as a F2p game it is and has really come into it's own.
And for all that keep trying to say it's not really free - there's a thread either here or most likely on the O-boards that lists out exactly how you can gain favor, unlock higher levels and quest areas and NEVER pay a cent. Yes you can pay money to play, but you don't have to. Play fast and spend $$ or play slow and do it free, it's your choice, but you don't HAVE to spend money if you don't want to. Stop thinking you have to power game to max level in a week to enjoy the game, try sitting back and enjoying the ride once in awhile.
Gotta love the open mind, people. Play the game before you hate. Be prepared, you actually have to THINK everything through, from character creation to actual playing, rather go collect ten boar tails. Several ex-WoW players told me that. You reallly shouldn't judge an MMO unless you play it more than 30 days.
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Gotta love the open mind, people. Play the game before you hate. Be prepared, you actually have to THINK everything through, from character creation to actual playing, rather go collect ten boar tails. Several ex-WoW players told me that. You reallly shouldn't judge an MMO unless you play it more than 30 days.
Amen to that btw what do you think of the 11th doctor?
Congratulations to the staff of Dungeons & Dragons Online and the runner up, Wizard101. From all of the games being played, you made the list because you advertise F2P.
Overshadowing the achievement of Best F2P MMO is the buzz on gaming sites and blogs ... an angry buzz ... about the label F2P. In truth, to play the games to their full extent, it is limited F2P ... or more accurately ... it is P2A ... pay to advance.
I hope that these two companies become leaders in changing the way F2P games are advertised and managed, especially when children are involved. Put yourself in the heart/mind of a child who watches other players zip by on their broom or see that just because the other players have money to buy accessories/clothing they are able to win a battle, with ease. I understand that a company needs to recoup the money spent during development and current expenses ... that is a given factor. At least allow F2P players to choose to be on separate servers than the players who pay to advance in the game.
A year ago, I would not have believed that this is as enthusiastic as I can get regarding these games.
Best F2P? My buddy just quit because he found out he had to buy certain areas to even be able to quest in them. How is that F2P? lol
Personally, I'll take Guild Wars anyday over a MMO made by Turbine...
Its pretty simple, you dont HAVE to pay for anything. Yes, you need to spend points to buy some of the content, but you can earn those points by playing through the already free content and earning favor through things like completing quests. So while it may be faster to buy the stuff, you are not required to spend real cash at any point. Just spend some time earning favor and you can unlock every level, quest, zone, race, class, etc. And sure it may take a fairly long time to earn enough favor to unlock it all, but its still free in the end. Its a matter of choice for most, time spent earning favor vs a few extra $. Personally, i will probably be spending a bit on some of the stuff, while also building up free points through favor and get it all with only a small amount of $ invested in the game.
Anyway, been thinking about it, and as i said earlier, its a bit unfair to give a F2P award to an originally P2P game, but a lot of you make good points. It is F2P now, and stands out as one of the best ones around, not only because of the game itself, but also because of the design of Turbines F2P system. I suppose that system alone would bump any game (even if it wasnt as well done as DDO) closer to the top of the list as best F2P. Though in a way RoM did have a somewhat similar method, in which you could earn Diamonds (cash shop currency) by selling in game items in the regular Auction Houses for Diamonds, and get all the CS stuff without spending a cent. Rohan also had their Exchange system, where you could post in game items, characters, etc for sale on their Exchange Market for cash shop credits. But the main thing that seperates DDO from those, is that in DDO you earn points by simply playing the game as usual, without having to farm for some elite items that people are willing to pay $ for. Though it would probably be nice to see a similar auction/exchange system like RoM or Rohan added in as well to allow you to not only earn points through questing, but also by selling your rare drops and stuff.
So the f2p mmo seems to deserve a seperate category, else those games would go unnoticed in the award winning on this site, while this site is making money off the advertising of those games. I do not buy the rationalisation for introducing this category. There is nothing new about the f2p business model and it has not yet produced more than a couple noteworthy games, but no award winning material at all.
Gotta love the open mind, people. Play the game before you hate. Be prepared, you actually have to THINK everything through, from character creation to actual playing, rather go collect ten boar tails. Several ex-WoW players told me that. You reallly shouldn't judge an MMO unless you play it more than 30 days.
Amen to that btw what do you think of the 11th doctor?
WHY DAVID WHY!!! A stupid Danish Prince over a Timelord!?!?!
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Does anyone here think the reviewers who write the articles play the MMO for 30+ days? Richard Aihoshi has said he only has the time to review a F2P game up to ~ Level 15. If the reviewers only look at a game for a couple of days and can write a review I think we are entitled to at least form an opinion.
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MMORPG is loosing all credibility with me now. First they choose Aion as best new game and now this. I guess the publisher with the deepest pockets gets points on this site and not really the game.
MMORPG is loosing all credibility with me now. First they choose Aion as best new game and now this. I guess the publisher with the deepest pockets gets points on this site and not really the game.
You don't know even know new D&D Online, don't you? Just look at user rating of the game, and then think again ; ).
LOL almost 85% of the content is locked unless you buy it or go VIP. hontestly this is why i quit,because it is NOT a true F2P mmo imo. A true f2p mmo has 75% of the content already unlocked at least if not all to be f2p...just goes to show that Video games are going the way of hollywood movies HA!.
Ah, do you people know a thing about Free to Play MMOs? Do you really think there are MMO games which are 100% free?
No, there's none. And there won't be any. But "Free to Play" is an accurate term - it means just that: you are able to play for free. Get used to it, it's not like developers depend on charity or donations for their hard, daily and past-time work.
And when it comes to being "free", DDO does it best - it's actually the only F2P MMO in which playing 100% for free is possible at all. On our portal we're even organizing events which help people earn Turbine Points for free on, all servers.
lolz... first, in a true f2p model game u can go anywhere even if u cant kill anything there... u just buy better boost or something like that on the cash shops, u dont play like using a dog collar that dont let u go to through the whole game. in DnD u CAN' T go anywhere, u are restricted by cash itens... simple, so thats not a true F2P and thats the point.
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Ah, do you people know a thing about Free to Play MMOs? Do you really think there are MMO games which are 100% free?
No, there's none. And there won't be any. But "Free to Play" is an accurate term - it means just that: you are able to play for free. Get used to it, it's not like developers depend on charity or donations for their hard, daily and past-time work.
And when it comes to being "free", DDO does it best - it's actually the only F2P MMO in which playing 100% for free is possible at all. On our portal we're even organizing events which help people earn Turbine Points for free on, all servers.
Honestly I think Runes of Magic does it better. At least Most of the GAME world is unlocked. Dont get me wrong I enjoyed DDO very much but hit a bump in the road about lvl 11ish or so where it was just not my Flavor of ice cream anymore. And I do understand that even F2P games need to make there profit some where.
Not only is DDO by far the best F2P MMO but its easily in the top 5 of best MMOs overall.
Grats Turbine, its nice to see that a MMO with some challenge can be sucesfull aswell
If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
Wrong.
By "free" they mean first you do not have to purchase the product. its free to download.
Second it doesnt have a mandatory subscription.
In fact, DDO is one of the few mmo's that is truly free. most f2p restrict access to items and the only way to get them is to make a real money transaction.
With DDO you can earn the tokens in game or buy them with real money.
As to the quality of the game... yea, its true DDO is an MMO which had the development of a regular MMO, so its hard to deny it should win this. But it doesnt detract from the truth, it IS the best.
Very few F2P games have dx10 graphics and in-game voice support.... jesus, most Paid MMO's dont have dx10 and ingame voice.. and thats just for starters.
Exactly : ). But this game is just too hard for many people, who are used to Blizzard's spoon feeding. So they leave it and return to their simple MMOs. Yup, there's no carebears and no spoon feeding in DDO! You're on your own, beware!
I guess that's the reason it has user rating of 8.1 now, 0.1 more than its MMORPG rating here. Those who aren't able / are too lazy to learn DDO generally don't even trouble themselves with writing an honest review...
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Agreed, this is all F2P means. You can get the game for free and it's free of a monthly sub fee. That's it. Of course all F2P games are not really free, and have microtransactions. DDO is a fantastic game, grats to Turbine.
Shouldn't this be the
"Biggest P2P MMO fail to go F2P as a last ditch effort to stay afloat award"
It all fairness DDO had money coming in for a while before it went free to play. other free to play games don't have that luxury. I know DDO wasn't making money hand over fist but between the cost of the game and the few years of subs, I'm sure that paid for the cost to make the game. that left a professionally developed game to be ported to the F2P system.
It would be like a Olympic Athlete winning all the games at a family picnic, sure he PWN'ed the family but he paid for the training.
This award should go to a game make from scratch to be a F2P game. DDO is a great F2P, but if other games that were P2P the past went F2P, how would DDO stack up?
Ummm... if DDO isn't ftp, no game is ftp. And no, you don't have to pay to advance. You can get the necessary tokens to advance through quests; you don't have to buy them.
I've met level 20 characters that have not spent one cent. Personally, I like a lot of the items in the cash shop, and some of them are a fair price(yes, some a are ridiculous and no one buys them).
If you did want to buy the AP's its actually cheaper to buy the APs, than to subscribe for a year. DDO, actually hoses its VIP members. I'm about to drop my VIP status, because the cash shop is cheaper in the long run.
This game is absolutely f2p 100%, and they don't make you pay to continue playing.
Well, I think its bad form to take a P2P game that tanked to the point they felt the need to make it free to play and call it the Best F2P MMO of 2009.
I feel the award should have gone to games designed to be F2P from the start, but hey, its not my site.
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I think the protests in this thread are entirely unwarranted. DDO is clearly head and shoulders above the rest of the f2p field because it was designed as a p2p and has decent content unlike it's other f2p competitors.
Awarding DDO as the best f2p was clearly the right thing to do. How anyone can dispute this is unclear to me.
While I think it's unfair to judge DDO against designed from the ground up F2p games, I do think Turbine did a great job in switching it over and deserves some credit for that. Is it the best F2p 2009 game? Well from the others I've played it is and yes that has a lot to do with it starting out as a P2p game.
And it wasn't dieing because it was a horrible game, it was dieing because of the limited new content being put into it. You can only run the same dungeons over and over and over again so many times. As a P2p game I found the money worth factor to be lacking for just that reason, also it's not a game you play every single day as most are. It really did / does follow in the same line as the P&P game in that you get together once a week and play, then put it away until next week. Was that worth the $15.00 a month being played like that? No.
But as a F2p game it is and has really come into it's own.
And for all that keep trying to say it's not really free - there's a thread either here or most likely on the O-boards that lists out exactly how you can gain favor, unlock higher levels and quest areas and NEVER pay a cent. Yes you can pay money to play, but you don't have to. Play fast and spend $$ or play slow and do it free, it's your choice, but you don't HAVE to spend money if you don't want to. Stop thinking you have to power game to max level in a week to enjoy the game, try sitting back and enjoying the ride once in awhile.
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Gotta love the open mind, people. Play the game before you hate. Be prepared, you actually have to THINK everything through, from character creation to actual playing, rather go collect ten boar tails. Several ex-WoW players told me that. You reallly shouldn't judge an MMO unless you play it more than 30 days.
Yes, I am a gamer girl.
Dungeons and Dragons Online: April 2006
THELANIS: Guild: Merc's Only. Trissa, Kleo, Sousake, Mulder, Roselyn, Caboose, Kaname, Scully, Courwin, Oncoming, Lanarissa, Doomlord, Tnannet, Healbotatron, keitherland, Keatheran, Allura, Riversong, Johnsmith, Jennysmith
I also play Star Trek Online and LotRO, on occasion.
Best F2P MMO needs a category? Look, it's the shiniest turd of the bunch, let's give it an award.
Best F2P? My buddy just quit because he found out he had to buy certain areas to even be able to quest in them. How is that F2P? lol
Personally, I'll take Guild Wars anyday over a MMO made by Turbine...
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Amen to that btw what do you think of the 11th doctor?
hehe "hater of haters"
Funny how you and your friend fail to understand what F2P mean.
If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
Congratulations to the staff of Dungeons & Dragons Online and the runner up, Wizard101. From all of the games being played, you made the list because you advertise F2P.
Overshadowing the achievement of Best F2P MMO is the buzz on gaming sites and blogs ... an angry buzz ... about the label F2P. In truth, to play the games to their full extent, it is limited F2P ... or more accurately ... it is P2A ... pay to advance.
I hope that these two companies become leaders in changing the way F2P games are advertised and managed, especially when children are involved. Put yourself in the heart/mind of a child who watches other players zip by on their broom or see that just because the other players have money to buy accessories/clothing they are able to win a battle, with ease. I understand that a company needs to recoup the money spent during development and current expenses ... that is a given factor. At least allow F2P players to choose to be on separate servers than the players who pay to advance in the game.
A year ago, I would not have believed that this is as enthusiastic as I can get regarding these games.
hehe "hater of haters"
Funny how you and your friend fail to understand what F2P mean.
True, GW is B2P and is not in the competition. Both games are actually good, I like them both but we are discussing F2P games here.
Its pretty simple, you dont HAVE to pay for anything. Yes, you need to spend points to buy some of the content, but you can earn those points by playing through the already free content and earning favor through things like completing quests. So while it may be faster to buy the stuff, you are not required to spend real cash at any point. Just spend some time earning favor and you can unlock every level, quest, zone, race, class, etc. And sure it may take a fairly long time to earn enough favor to unlock it all, but its still free in the end. Its a matter of choice for most, time spent earning favor vs a few extra $. Personally, i will probably be spending a bit on some of the stuff, while also building up free points through favor and get it all with only a small amount of $ invested in the game.
Anyway, been thinking about it, and as i said earlier, its a bit unfair to give a F2P award to an originally P2P game, but a lot of you make good points. It is F2P now, and stands out as one of the best ones around, not only because of the game itself, but also because of the design of Turbines F2P system. I suppose that system alone would bump any game (even if it wasnt as well done as DDO) closer to the top of the list as best F2P. Though in a way RoM did have a somewhat similar method, in which you could earn Diamonds (cash shop currency) by selling in game items in the regular Auction Houses for Diamonds, and get all the CS stuff without spending a cent. Rohan also had their Exchange system, where you could post in game items, characters, etc for sale on their Exchange Market for cash shop credits. But the main thing that seperates DDO from those, is that in DDO you earn points by simply playing the game as usual, without having to farm for some elite items that people are willing to pay $ for. Though it would probably be nice to see a similar auction/exchange system like RoM or Rohan added in as well to allow you to not only earn points through questing, but also by selling your rare drops and stuff.
So the f2p mmo seems to deserve a seperate category, else those games would go unnoticed in the award winning on this site, while this site is making money off the advertising of those games. I do not buy the rationalisation for introducing this category. There is nothing new about the f2p business model and it has not yet produced more than a couple noteworthy games, but no award winning material at all.
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Amen to that btw what do you think of the 11th doctor?
WHY DAVID WHY!!! A stupid Danish Prince over a Timelord!?!?!
Yes, I am a gamer girl.
Dungeons and Dragons Online: April 2006
THELANIS: Guild: Merc's Only. Trissa, Kleo, Sousake, Mulder, Roselyn, Caboose, Kaname, Scully, Courwin, Oncoming, Lanarissa, Doomlord, Tnannet, Healbotatron, keitherland, Keatheran, Allura, Riversong, Johnsmith, Jennysmith
I also play Star Trek Online and LotRO, on occasion.
Does anyone here think the reviewers who write the articles play the MMO for 30+ days? Richard Aihoshi has said he only has the time to review a F2P game up to ~ Level 15. If the reviewers only look at a game for a couple of days and can write a review I think we are entitled to at least form an opinion.
Oh and for our would be Doctor’s assistant, Hamlet is Shakespeare, Tennet obviously thinks the luvies need to take him seriously now.
MMORPG is loosing all credibility with me now. First they choose Aion as best new game and now this. I guess the publisher with the deepest pockets gets points on this site and not really the game.
You don't know even know new D&D Online, don't you? Just look at user rating of the game, and then think again ; ).
User rating is totally independent of mmorpg.com.
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Ah, do you people know a thing about Free to Play MMOs? Do you really think there are MMO games which are 100% free?
No, there's none. And there won't be any. But "Free to Play" is an accurate term - it means just that: you are able to play for free. Get used to it, it's not like developers depend on charity or donations for their hard, daily and past-time work.
And when it comes to being "free", DDO does it best - it's actually the only F2P MMO in which playing 100% for free is possible at all. On our portal we're even organizing events which help people earn Turbine Points for free on, all servers.
lolz... first, in a true f2p model game u can go anywhere even if u cant kill anything there... u just buy better boost or something like that on the cash shops, u dont play like using a dog collar that dont let u go to through the whole game. in DnD u CAN' T go anywhere, u are restricted by cash itens... simple, so thats not a true F2P and thats the point.
yknow, saying something is the best F2P game is kinda like comaring piles of dog crap and trying to figure out which is best.