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Biggest Beta problem - uninformed Beta players
acolorado
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The biggest problem facing the STO Beta right now is the ridiculous number of players reviewing and commenting about STO as if it were launch day.
The entire purpose of the Beta is to identify and correct problems in the game. So yes - there are bugs, and problems, and server issues, and it is unbalanced, and not all content has been opened up at this early Beta date.
To those who are complaining I say - DUH!
If you're not capable of submitting bug reports and offering constructive suggestions, you really should save everyone the headache and wait to play at launch.
Just for God's sake stop whining that the Beta is still a Beta. You're ignorance only makes us feel embarrassed on your behalf.
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Sorry but it's been a long time open betas are no more for bug reporting and much more for advertising the game, and if possible get a few bucks from players who cannot wait for a free beta key (all the preorder stuff).
So the whole "it's a beta, dont judge or review the game and just report bugs" thing is a bit out of date. The game you see now, will most probably be very close to the game being released in like a month. It doesnt mean cryptic is not working on the game, and wont improve it in the future.
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There are folks complaining about the lag and bugs. However, I think that this game's biggest problem is that it's not an MMO. Star Trek Online should be categorized with Guild Wars. The game is fun to play. It's unique as far as online games go. However, there's not one feature in the game that makes it worth paying $10-$15 a month to play. Heck, with the amount of loading screens, they could simply package the thing up as a single player game and sell it that way. It would probably be more successful as a single player game.
It's unfortunate, but this is the truth. This close to release, we're pretty much seeing the game exactly how it will be come launch day. On another note, it's a bit disturbing how many people aren't able to see this.
Underlined for truth. I bet most of these people complaining aren't even doing that on the official site even though the whole purpose of them getting the keys was to find bugs and offer "constructive" criticism. It's obvious when they say things like "Slow space combat" or "This game sux" that they only have an ax to grind and never intended to buy it in the first place.
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The sad thing is, it is also Cryptic running the game. Just look at CO, we all thought the same thing, then Woopity Doo, they decide to pull one and change the game up completely at launch. I wouldn't be surprised if that is what they do here, hopefully for the better, not to say the game is bad but it does need improvement, Then again, so do many MMOs.
So what are you saying? that all half assed reviews, bitching and moaning after one day of beta (mostly couple of hours) is justified? the purpose of beta, regardless of what you personally think is to test the software and submit bug reports, feedback and suggestions. Not to rush to forums after one hour of gameplay and right un-informative wall of text which is full of same ranting we have read over million times before.
Open beta's are nothing but a big marketting tool, they have been for the past couple of years especially since so many of them pratically require you to pre order the game to even participate. What you get in Open Beta is 95% of what you'll get at launch unless there's a launch day Nerf Patch like they did to Champions.
Open beta used to mean help us fix bugs..
Now with file planet and other various sub services etc open beta means, ZOMG FREE TRIALZ! DOOD CHECK OUT OUR GAME!! TELL UR FRIENDS!! PREORDER AND GET 1337 GEER!! YAY FREE PRESS AND FREE ADVERTIZIN!! W0oT!! SPRED TEH WORDZ!!
P.S. HAY YO, DID WE MENTION IF U PREORDR ULL GET SOME SERIUS GEAR THAT WILL MAKE U BETTER TEHN THE OTHR NOOBS PLUS A HEAD START SO UR EVEN MORE LEET!!
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When game companies flat out sell closed beta spots and open beta goes along with pre-orders and early head starts...
Can you really blame the people that are spending the cash? No matter what they say?
The company that does that sets the parameters, they get exactly what they sold, people buying their way into a game to see if it is any good.
Trying to dress it up as anything else, or as to the way it SHOULD be run is just nonsense.
I have beta tested many games, now I have yet to play STO so I will not comment on it's gameplay but.... 2 weeks from launch in 99.9% of MMOs is more or less what you get at launch. WoW did not change much at launch besides massive server crashes, whole servers down for close to 5 days etc but the content was the same. LOTRO which was an awesome launch the same, what was in beta was in the game at launch. Vanguard all the fanboys swearing this was not the game we will see at launch, what was in beta I think was better then when that game launched. TR was another but the best was WAR and the asshat Mark jacobs on the lag in most RvR and any seige attempt "This is beta, the lag will improve" well we all see where that POS ended up.
So in short please don't delude yourself that things will magically better in 2 weeks or massive content will be added, while some things will improve as the debugging stops and some content is added don't expect a miracle or you will be dissapointed.
I have beta tested a number of games and STO is working relatively well. a few wrinkles but overall I am pleased. The klingon servers are laggy as heck but the Federation side was rolling pretty well.
over all I am pretty pleased with the functions of game and the fun factor is there.
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So what are you saying? that all half assed reviews, bitching and moaning after one day of beta (mostly couple of hours) is justified? the purpose of beta, regardless of what you personally think is to test the software and submit bug reports, feedback and suggestions. Not to rush to forums after one hour of gameplay and right un-informative wall of text which is full of same ranting we have read over million times before.
Nope, not saying that. I myself only played a few hours and wont review the game saying it's globally good or bad, I dont know. However it has become obvious that open betas nowadays are much more about "testing" and advertising the game than filling bug reports. You can test the game on your side and see if you like it, they can test their server capabilities on the other hand and get fully ready for the release. And the NDA being lift, of course, you can expect everyone posting about their beta experience (the opinion of people who have spent a few months in the closed beta being certainly not un-informative). That doesnt mean every review gonna be spot on of course
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It's unfortunate, but this is the truth. This close to release, we're pretty much seeing the game exactly how it will be come launch day. On another note, it's a bit disturbing how many people aren't able to see this.
As soon as you check in Cryptic says that alot of the content will not be open til toward the end of beta so you are not seeing the whole game but about half
This is a stress test. Most of the issues I see now were not in closed beta. Granted, there are bugs, of course. Granted, Klingons need to be fleshed out. But most of the issues now are load related.
I wanna try what your smokling.
wow had huge changes, dont forget the whole paladin class change. and undead becoming humanoids instead of undead. The paladin changes happened in the openbeta phase.
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Yeah, I don't know if I've ever seen a bug corrected that I've reported in an Open Beta. This goes back to Star Wars Galaxies when the bugs we were reporting in closed beta weren't even getting worked. I sometimes think the testers are more like lab rats and less like testers.
so...
I wanna try what your smokling.
wow had huge changes, dont forget the whole paladin class change. and undead becoming humanoids instead of undead. The paladin changes happened in the openbeta phase.
Please read what I said the game did not change much at launch then from OB, and the undead issue happned because of the paladins abilities.
Open beta is nothing more than a stress test and for advertisement. The core game is there and nothing big is going to change in the next 2 weeks before release. STO = huge letdown for me. Feels more like just an online game. I feel missled.
the game has changed very little in months, if you think they are going to do much in a couple weeks Im thinking your mistaken
First off I agree with the OP. If you don't want to play a game with bugs and issues that need to be fixed then wait for release.
This post by Ambre is part of the problem with beta testers today. Some companies use the beta as a marketing gimmick and when other companies allow you to be part of the real testing process all of these spoiled gamers complain that it's not a demo with just a few bugs.
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My sig is just as logical as your posts are
I thought that the Fallen Earth beta was one of the best I've ever taken part in. Not only were a lot of the bugs that I reported fixed, they were actively participating in the game, letting people know problems and helping people to get through their issues right in regional chat. If I were ever to develop an MMO, I'd follow their model for beta testing.
The Fallen Earth official launch was horribly laggy. I don't think that they were ready for the onslaught, but I think that we've all come to expect that sort of thing by now.
And this children is why we have longer closed betas and anything less than 6 months is more likely to be a train wreck.
Yes, you are right. But there's a problem in your analysis.
Until 1/12, this was a CLOSED beta. It's probably the biggest ever done, but it was closed.
Yes, you are right. But there's a problem in your analysis.
Until 1/12, this was a CLOSED beta. It's probably the biggest ever done, but it was closed.
Which lasted less than two months.
First off I agree with the OP. If you don't want to play a game with bugs and issues that need to be fixed then wait for release. Don't bitch about a game in beta because the devs dare to test the game and allow you to help. Help or gtfo until release or later.
This post by Ambre is part of the problem with beta testers today. Some companies use the beta as a marketing gimmick and when other companies allow you to be part of the real testing process all of these spoiled gamers complain that it's not a demo with just a few bugs.
You really think you are helping when you participate in an open beta? Amusing.
As others have mentioned, open beta is a marketing gimmick, nothing more and what you see today is pretty much what you'll see at launch unless they decide to delay the release.
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