now we have a nice balanced spoon fed list of content given to us.
Isn't that the hallmark of the times we live in?
I understand that there are difficulties with the voting way of doing things. There are always people who try to cheat the system no matter what you do. I don't think you should abandon the system because of that. Modern society would look very sad today if that was the prevailing attitude.
What surprises me is the number that have voted for ambivalence. It probably shouldn't have.
No disrespect to the staff of this website but, frankly, I don't care that a handful of editors think that this game deserves an award and this other game does not.
Not very long ago, and for a very long time, it was we, the purchasing, playing public, that voted on these nominees. The yearly awards were based on the opinions of thousands, not just the handful that work for this website.
By excluding your public you have rendered your awards pointless. Even if I agree with your choices (and I do in many cases) they are no longer a reflection of the mmorpg.com gaming public. I no longer consider your awards credible.
ahh poor guy must be sore that his niche game didnt win a meaningless award from a meaningless site (no disrespect meant to mmorpg.com).
Does it really matter who won this award? I dont even remember the most antcipated game reward from 09 or 08. It doesnt matter! get over it, This doesnt make or break a game or for that fact has any fraction of a percent to do with how the game will do.
I would have just assumed ffxiv not won the award because it just brings unwanted people to the game boards. like the people who post "OMG WTF NO PvP FAIL FAIL FAIL!!!!!" oh we cant forget the crowd that will come and a will go "ANOTHER ASIAN GRINDER" I would have just assumed that STO would have won so you guys could have had the fail threads amplified. Or even better I wish SW won so the threads about "this isnt an MMO", "Another single player MMO" would have tripled.
Side note: If people would have actually read the article people would know why SW:TOR didnt win.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore) Now Playing: N/A Worst MMO: FFXIV Favorite MMO: FFXI
If theres something i have learnt over the years, is that game awards,all game awards, are simply bought. Be it in game magazines, gaming websites, distributors or hardware manufacturers, games that win awards are those whose parent companies can afford to pay/rent more ads, services, watever from the givers
which makes game awards a big lame joke. So i never care about what games get what awards, or lure a lot of positive reviews, most likely that game is an unbearable turd.
It's better to let the editors pick. The problem with the old system when the mmorpg.com users could vote for the game was that development studios were unable to resist screwing up the awards. Certain mmorpg development companies asked their player base to go over to mmorpg.com and vote for their game. This was especially a problem with CCP, the developer of EVE online. CCP asked its playerbase to go to mmorpg.com and vote for EVE Online on their website and forums. The result was that EVE would win year after year, even won an award for best PVE game. Giving EVE the award for best PVE is like giving Everquest or Final Fantasy XI an award for best pvp game. The awards were not handed out by the mmorpg community, they were handed out by the EVE online community. The blame, in my opinion, is entirely with developers such as CCP who want awards so bad they are willing to screw them up for it.
In part I have to agree with you I remember last year around awards time and LOTRO advertised for every award they were up for on mmorpg.com, but what I think we all need to remember is while we play these games it is questionable how much "loyalty" we have towards the game. At any given time (and we have all seen this) we know someone who is just tredding water in whatever game waiting for there own personal next big thing and those players are not going to vote for that game. There were times in it's life where SOE could have asked the SWG population to go and vote and like half of us would not have done it.
So we just need to remember that the way we feel about these games is what motivates us to go and vote wether they ask/tell us to or not. I've said over and over that it is no coincidence that the games that usually win do win and it isn't just because those companies are asking the player base to vote it's because we the player base believed strongly enough to vote. I don't feel obligated to do anything more than give my money to these companies anything extra it's through a beilief in the product they are putting out.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
I really am just plain astounded at the number of people here that are saying "I have no brain, and do not wish to think for myself, please tell me what I should like gaaaaaahhh braaaaaiinsssss!"
No but really. MMORPG.com makes it's money off the industry. it has also decided for one reason or another that it hates wow. So they most likley disabled community voting on awards to keep wow from winning. Cause it would have.
where all the community focuses on one game. Though, i think if MMORPG approached it with both a reader and editor's choice, things would be a bit better.
Just look at the hype meter on this site FFXIV is second most of the time to SW. If people could read the article they would have known SW didnt win because they dont feel its a 2010 release. So according to the hype meter FFXIV should have won. However I still stand by my stance that I wish it would not have won for the stated reasons in a previous post.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore) Now Playing: N/A Worst MMO: FFXIV Favorite MMO: FFXI
where all the community focuses on one game. Though, i think if MMORPG approached it with both a reader and editor's choice, things would be a bit better.
The main thing is that Runes of Magic is probably the most underrated MMO out atm - and the critics... have been caught napping. In MMORPG.COM case - they haven't even tried the game - they dont know how it works - and they are not gonna.
Runes of Magic is the big winner of this year in terms of so many things. Site like MMORPG.COM is not getting advetisement money for that game tho.. and that means other games will be selected. AOC has been on the top of this side for a week now... no wonder they won the most "improved" crappy launched MMO game evhhha.
I glance at what awards stuff gets, but don't take it as gospel. I don't think anyone should do that, I just judge for myself and maybe take a look at what the community thinks. Maybe because most mmo forums are just full of nerdragers and people with some weird pent up rage...but hey I keep coming back here for some punishment, still good for some light debate though.
If I find out that I wasted my money on a game, I just think what a dumbass I must have been when I put down my money and make sure to do my research better next time. If I did base a game on awards, I would at the very most look at the average review score, but beyond that?
where all the community focuses on one game. Though, i think if MMORPG approached it with both a reader and editor's choice, things would be a bit better.
The main thing is that Runes of Magic is probably the most underrated MMO out atm - and the critics... have been caught napping. In MMORPG.COM case - they haven't even tried the game - they dont know how it works - and they are not gonna.
Runes of Magic is the big winner of this year in terms of so many things. Site like MMORPG.COM is not getting advetisement money for that game tho.. and that means other games will be selected. AOC has been on the top of this side for a week now... no wonder they won the most "improved" crappy launched MMO game evhhha.
Lol Runes of magic is a horrible game, the best and only title it should win is most expensive F2P game to date 2009. Not to derail this thread but I will elaborate a little as to not be flaming the game. First off I have been apart of RoM's development since it's first closed beta, so I have seen and heard it all. It really did start out as a good game with lots of potential but it's devs and hosting studio Frogster have all but put nails in the coffin of that game.
1st - RoM does not set any new standards , it is not ground breaking and it offers nothing new outside of a botched dual class system that only favors certain combo's. RoM, is unequivocally a well done WoW clone, WTG Runewaker kudo's on being original.
2nd - Game is unoptimized , adjusting any graphics settings has no impact on the game, running crappy textures does nothing for your FPS or Ping. All it does is change the look. You lag in every area that has more than 6 people, new bosses drop to a page by page screen crawl, and all this reported and all they do is add more CS stuff or new gear to make people spend more.
I have a monster rig, No game out I can't run fully at max settings currently, Yet RoM runs like it is stuck in slow moe, and with only two hops between me and server it's not the net lol
3rd - They just recently shafted all pay-pal and credit card users , to the point were more or less there money is useless in their cash shop. Anyone who has played this game know's how vastly important the cash shop is. And the one saving grace the game had was it was easy to get cash shop currency in-game. Removing pay-pal and CC from this trade limits the only way to trade cash shop stuff to bank transfer users and people who live close to germany have a few cards they can buy. But most and the vast majority that play don't, we use pay-pal and our CC. Which oddly enough every other game company takes with no restrictions or penalties. Heck I get offered incentives usually to use my CC and pay-pal, what gives????
4th - game has been out a year, 2 expansion packs released already, and level cap raised several times. New gear was added at least 6 times in that short time each time making what you had before obsolete. Now this would be great if RoM was P2P, but as a F2P if you were a average gamer trying to keep up and you paid for your own cash shop. Then You were made to pay again lot's of times over if you wanted to keep up. Some might not see this as big, heck some even like setting their money on fire, to each his own I say lol. But the point is they clearly did it to amass monies, the whole time adding content so people re-gear and never fixing one flaw the players have reported since CB. PVP is a joke in this game and the PVP servers along with the english speaking PVE servers have no were near the pop's they did when game was first released. Germans think this game is a godsend but germans have special servers with special treatment , not surprising as frogster had it's launch thx to the german peoples but heck man we others deserve what we pay for too.
5th - botters botters botters and more botters. Did I say allot of people bot??? So much so it makes Rohan players seem legit and the right way to go lol. Macro's were cut from game to fix "bots". But funny thing is no RoM bot ever created used the in-game macro system any. But it did make the game more fun for players to play. So they botched it , gameplay sux even more and still a world record setter for bots and gold sellers. WoW players haven't seen nothing, goldsellers can make a fortune from RoM off their bots there and they know it
lol I could go on and on about all that's wrong with that game and why here really soon the game will flop every were but Germany. But I already have a wall of text not really on topic (*runs hides lol*) so I better stop here. xD
On topic. I like how mmorpg does their voting. Offering voting to the players just allows studios to post it on their pages and have people come over to vote that never would have other wise. So you can't really believe those numbers because there fixed, sites doing that pretty much guarantee a win for them. And since stopping this type of activity would be a real pain for this site, I too as it's admin would just rather do staff votes than these useless stupid, pointless STUDIO votes.
The "public" doesn't need to be involved in all decision matters. This isn't a democracy. Perhaps the OP could learn how to correctly use commas and point out to which award he had a problem with.
where all the community focuses on one game. Though, i think if MMORPG approached it with both a reader and editor's choice, things would be a bit better.
ROFL! Democracy WORKS! Runes of Magic; best MMO OF 2009 FOR ALL CATEGORIES!
"World of Warcraft is the perfect implementation of this genre." - Hilmar Petursson. CEO of CCP.
There will be popularity contests awards (pretty pointless imo as one can rally people from their game or against a game instead of deep analyzing games for each award which is quite impossible to expect from every reader here, not to mention the ones that will register just to vote), starting after all the editorial ones are announced.
The point of this thread is the player's voice is being squelched.
If 45000 fans from one game decend upon mmorpg to vote for their favorite game and then the results are skewed so be it.
I think a far better idea would be to hold two sets of awards. The editor picks and the player's choice awards.
I think anything less seriously questions two things which are already strongly in doubt at mmorpg:
freedom of speech based on prior experiences
Neutrality of mmorpg when it comes to evaluating and talking about games.
I think I liked this site way way better when it was smaller.
Before it used to feel like a gaming community where gamers could come and be honest about the games they play.
Back in the day the game forums hosted by the game companies themselves were always locking threads critical of the game. Many of us came here to have unbiased and frank discussions about this game and that.
Over the last few years however, I feel mmorpg has become indistinguishable from gaming magazine or even an offical forum. I guess I'd lean that way too if I was making my bread and butter off the ads on this site, but that was not, in my opinion, the original spirit of this site.
I guess its inevitable that even the site we use to talk about mmorpg games would begin to lean itself away from the players and more towards those that are paying the bills.
Between the games themselves and the communities that surround this genre, I dont see anyone really looking out for the player anymore.
The point of this thread is the player's voice is being squelched. If 45000 fans from one game decend upon mmorpg to vote for their favorite game and then the results are skewed so be it. I think a far better idea would be to hold two sets of awards. The editor picks and the player's choice awards. I think anything less seriously questions two things which are already strongly in doubt at mmorpg: freedom of speech based on prior experiences Neutrality of mmorpg when it comes to evaluating and talking about games. I think I liked this site way way better when it was smaller. Before it used to feel like a gaming community where gamers could come and be honest about the games they play. Back in the day the game forums hosted by the game companies themselves were always locking threads critical of the game. Many of us came here to have unbiased and frank discussions about this game and that. Over the last few years however, I feel mmorpg has become indistinguishable from gaming magazine or even an offical forum. I guess I'd lean that way too if I was making my bread and butter off the ads on this site, but that was not, in my opinion, the original spirit of this site. I guess its inevitable that even the site we use to talk about mmorpg games would begin to lean itself away from the players and more towards those that are paying the bills.
Where is the squelch though?
Check the first lines here: http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/3855/page/1 , more espeficially "a robust Reader's Choice Awards to follow later in 2010." There will be the opportunity for people to give their opinion, and the mentioned opportunity for people to go zerg on their favorite games, and call players on their games servers and forums to zerg over this website to vote for their games.
There has never been any squelch, that is my point in the lacking of a point in this thread. This year there was simply a clearer definition between the Reader and the Editorial awards (OUR choices and THEIR choices), the nominations are just for the Editorial (unless I am wrong and they are going to in fact limit our choice of voting, which I rather doubt than start complaining already).
The point of this thread is the player's voice is being squelched. If 45000 fans from one game decend upon mmorpg to vote for their favorite game and then the results are skewed so be it. I think a far better idea would be to hold two sets of awards. The editor picks and the player's choice awards. I think anything less seriously questions two things which are already strongly in doubt at mmorpg: freedom of speech based on prior experiences Neutrality of mmorpg when it comes to evaluating and talking about games. I think I liked this site way way better when it was smaller. Before it used to feel like a gaming community where gamers could come and be honest about the games they play. Back in the day the game forums hosted by the game companies themselves were always locking threads critical of the game. Many of us came here to have unbiased and frank discussions about this game and that. Over the last few years however, I feel mmorpg has become indistinguishable from gaming magazine or even an offical forum. I guess I'd lean that way too if I was making my bread and butter off the ads on this site, but that was not, in my opinion, the original spirit of this site. I guess its inevitable that even the site we use to talk about mmorpg games would begin to lean itself away from the players and more towards those that are paying the bills.
Where is the squelch though?
Check the first lines here: http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/3855/page/1 , more espeficially "a robust Reader's Choice Awards to follow later in 2010." There will be the opportunity for people to give their opinion, and the mentioned opportunity for people to go zerg on their favorite games, and call players on their games servers and forums to zerg over this website to vote for their games.
There has never been any squelch, that is my point in the lacking of a point in this thread. This year there was simply a clearer definition between the Reader and the Editorial awards (OUR choices and THEIR choices), the nominations are just for the Editorial (unless I am wrong and they are going to in fact limit our choice of voting, which I rather doubt than start complaining already).
hrmm point taken i guess ill be willing to keep an open mind.
Wow. Amazing how snide people can get when there is no accountability.
For the record. I hold no opinion as to which should win which award. There is no secret agenda here. I am not pulling for one game or another. There is no hidden conspiracy to zerg a certain game and carry the day. My point was... wait for it... that a couple dozen guys giving an award to this or that game has minimal importance. However tens of thousands of people supporting one game or another is at least useful to both we as the gamer and the industry.
Last year when the nominees were picked by the editors, we voted on those nominees. The editors picks were compared against the winners of the voting process. I think that's far more useful in the long run than what is being done now.
I see nothing wrong with MMORPG.com awards going out according to the editors' votes.
I don't mind reading what MMORPG.com staff thinks once a year. For "majority voted" awards, I prefer checking the winners of websites that generate a lot more traffic.
EVE might win even often if these awards are voted.
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hrmm.......we used to vote, we dont vote now because our vote affects the outcome of the industry and the genre so our power to vote is removed.
now we have a nice balanced spoon fed list of content given to us. Things have changed around here.
Isn't that the hallmark of the times we live in?
I understand that there are difficulties with the voting way of doing things. There are always people who try to cheat the system no matter what you do. I don't think you should abandon the system because of that. Modern society would look very sad today if that was the prevailing attitude.
What surprises me is the number that have voted for ambivalence. It probably shouldn't have.
ahh poor guy must be sore that his niche game didnt win a meaningless award from a meaningless site (no disrespect meant to mmorpg.com).
Does it really matter who won this award? I dont even remember the most antcipated game reward from 09 or 08. It doesnt matter! get over it, This doesnt make or break a game or for that fact has any fraction of a percent to do with how the game will do.
I would have just assumed ffxiv not won the award because it just brings unwanted people to the game boards. like the people who post "OMG WTF NO PvP FAIL FAIL FAIL!!!!!" oh we cant forget the crowd that will come and a will go "ANOTHER ASIAN GRINDER" I would have just assumed that STO would have won so you guys could have had the fail threads amplified. Or even better I wish SW won so the threads about "this isnt an MMO", "Another single player MMO" would have tripled.
Side note: If people would have actually read the article people would know why SW:TOR didnt win.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
QFT
Currently Playing Path of Exile
In part I have to agree with you I remember last year around awards time and LOTRO advertised for every award they were up for on mmorpg.com, but what I think we all need to remember is while we play these games it is questionable how much "loyalty" we have towards the game. At any given time (and we have all seen this) we know someone who is just tredding water in whatever game waiting for there own personal next big thing and those players are not going to vote for that game. There were times in it's life where SOE could have asked the SWG population to go and vote and like half of us would not have done it.
So we just need to remember that the way we feel about these games is what motivates us to go and vote wether they ask/tell us to or not. I've said over and over that it is no coincidence that the games that usually win do win and it isn't just because those companies are asking the player base to vote it's because we the player base believed strongly enough to vote. I don't feel obligated to do anything more than give my money to these companies anything extra it's through a beilief in the product they are putting out.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
I really am just plain astounded at the number of people here that are saying "I have no brain, and do not wish to think for myself, please tell me what I should like gaaaaaahhh braaaaaiinsssss!"
No but really. MMORPG.com makes it's money off the industry. it has also decided for one reason or another that it hates wow. So they most likley disabled community voting on awards to keep wow from winning. Cause it would have.
Sorry.
Sanity is a delusion. The only truth is madness.
I imagine something like this would happen
http://www.massively.com/2010/01/01/massively-readers-and-staff-choice-awards-results-for-2009/
where all the community focuses on one game. Though, i think if MMORPG approached it with both a reader and editor's choice, things would be a bit better.
Just look at the hype meter on this site FFXIV is second most of the time to SW. If people could read the article they would have known SW didnt win because they dont feel its a 2010 release. So according to the hype meter FFXIV should have won. However I still stand by my stance that I wish it would not have won for the stated reasons in a previous post.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
The main thing is that Runes of Magic is probably the most underrated MMO out atm - and the critics... have been caught napping. In MMORPG.COM case - they haven't even tried the game - they dont know how it works - and they are not gonna.
Runes of Magic is the big winner of this year in terms of so many things. Site like MMORPG.COM is not getting advetisement money for that game tho.. and that means other games will be selected. AOC has been on the top of this side for a week now... no wonder they won the most "improved" crappy launched MMO game evhhha.
I glance at what awards stuff gets, but don't take it as gospel. I don't think anyone should do that, I just judge for myself and maybe take a look at what the community thinks. Maybe because most mmo forums are just full of nerdragers and people with some weird pent up rage...but hey I keep coming back here for some punishment, still good for some light debate though.
If I find out that I wasted my money on a game, I just think what a dumbass I must have been when I put down my money and make sure to do my research better next time. If I did base a game on awards, I would at the very most look at the average review score, but beyond that?
The main thing is that Runes of Magic is probably the most underrated MMO out atm - and the critics... have been caught napping. In MMORPG.COM case - they haven't even tried the game - they dont know how it works - and they are not gonna.
Runes of Magic is the big winner of this year in terms of so many things. Site like MMORPG.COM is not getting advetisement money for that game tho.. and that means other games will be selected. AOC has been on the top of this side for a week now... no wonder they won the most "improved" crappy launched MMO game evhhha.
Lol Runes of magic is a horrible game, the best and only title it should win is most expensive F2P game to date 2009. Not to derail this thread but I will elaborate a little as to not be flaming the game. First off I have been apart of RoM's development since it's first closed beta, so I have seen and heard it all. It really did start out as a good game with lots of potential but it's devs and hosting studio Frogster have all but put nails in the coffin of that game.
1st - RoM does not set any new standards , it is not ground breaking and it offers nothing new outside of a botched dual class system that only favors certain combo's. RoM, is unequivocally a well done WoW clone, WTG Runewaker kudo's on being original.
2nd - Game is unoptimized , adjusting any graphics settings has no impact on the game, running crappy textures does nothing for your FPS or Ping. All it does is change the look. You lag in every area that has more than 6 people, new bosses drop to a page by page screen crawl, and all this reported and all they do is add more CS stuff or new gear to make people spend more.
I have a monster rig, No game out I can't run fully at max settings currently, Yet RoM runs like it is stuck in slow moe, and with only two hops between me and server it's not the net lol
3rd - They just recently shafted all pay-pal and credit card users , to the point were more or less there money is useless in their cash shop. Anyone who has played this game know's how vastly important the cash shop is. And the one saving grace the game had was it was easy to get cash shop currency in-game. Removing pay-pal and CC from this trade limits the only way to trade cash shop stuff to bank transfer users and people who live close to germany have a few cards they can buy. But most and the vast majority that play don't, we use pay-pal and our CC. Which oddly enough every other game company takes with no restrictions or penalties. Heck I get offered incentives usually to use my CC and pay-pal, what gives????
4th - game has been out a year, 2 expansion packs released already, and level cap raised several times. New gear was added at least 6 times in that short time each time making what you had before obsolete. Now this would be great if RoM was P2P, but as a F2P if you were a average gamer trying to keep up and you paid for your own cash shop. Then You were made to pay again lot's of times over if you wanted to keep up. Some might not see this as big, heck some even like setting their money on fire, to each his own I say lol. But the point is they clearly did it to amass monies, the whole time adding content so people re-gear and never fixing one flaw the players have reported since CB. PVP is a joke in this game and the PVP servers along with the english speaking PVE servers have no were near the pop's they did when game was first released. Germans think this game is a godsend but germans have special servers with special treatment , not surprising as frogster had it's launch thx to the german peoples but heck man we others deserve what we pay for too.
5th - botters botters botters and more botters. Did I say allot of people bot??? So much so it makes Rohan players seem legit and the right way to go lol. Macro's were cut from game to fix "bots". But funny thing is no RoM bot ever created used the in-game macro system any. But it did make the game more fun for players to play. So they botched it , gameplay sux even more and still a world record setter for bots and gold sellers. WoW players haven't seen nothing, goldsellers can make a fortune from RoM off their bots there and they know it
lol I could go on and on about all that's wrong with that game and why here really soon the game will flop every were but Germany. But I already have a wall of text not really on topic (*runs hides lol*) so I better stop here. xD
On topic. I like how mmorpg does their voting. Offering voting to the players just allows studios to post it on their pages and have people come over to vote that never would have other wise. So you can't really believe those numbers because there fixed, sites doing that pretty much guarantee a win for them. And since stopping this type of activity would be a real pain for this site, I too as it's admin would just rather do staff votes than these useless stupid, pointless STUDIO votes.
The "public" doesn't need to be involved in all decision matters. This isn't a democracy. Perhaps the OP could learn how to correctly use commas and point out to which award he had a problem with.
ROFL! Democracy WORKS! Runes of Magic; best MMO OF 2009 FOR ALL CATEGORIES!
"World of Warcraft is the perfect implementation of this genre." - Hilmar Petursson. CEO of CCP.
What is the point of this thread?
There will be popularity contests awards (pretty pointless imo as one can rally people from their game or against a game instead of deep analyzing games for each award which is quite impossible to expect from every reader here, not to mention the ones that will register just to vote), starting after all the editorial ones are announced.
The point of this thread is the player's voice is being squelched.
If 45000 fans from one game decend upon mmorpg to vote for their favorite game and then the results are skewed so be it.
I think a far better idea would be to hold two sets of awards. The editor picks and the player's choice awards.
I think anything less seriously questions two things which are already strongly in doubt at mmorpg:
freedom of speech based on prior experiences
Neutrality of mmorpg when it comes to evaluating and talking about games.
I think I liked this site way way better when it was smaller.
Before it used to feel like a gaming community where gamers could come and be honest about the games they play.
Back in the day the game forums hosted by the game companies themselves were always locking threads critical of the game. Many of us came here to have unbiased and frank discussions about this game and that.
Over the last few years however, I feel mmorpg has become indistinguishable from gaming magazine or even an offical forum. I guess I'd lean that way too if I was making my bread and butter off the ads on this site, but that was not, in my opinion, the original spirit of this site.
I guess its inevitable that even the site we use to talk about mmorpg games would begin to lean itself away from the players and more towards those that are paying the bills.
Between the games themselves and the communities that surround this genre, I dont see anyone really looking out for the player anymore.
Where is the squelch though?
Check the first lines here: http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/3855/page/1 , more espeficially "a robust Reader's Choice Awards to follow later in 2010." There will be the opportunity for people to give their opinion, and the mentioned opportunity for people to go zerg on their favorite games, and call players on their games servers and forums to zerg over this website to vote for their games.
There has never been any squelch, that is my point in the lacking of a point in this thread. This year there was simply a clearer definition between the Reader and the Editorial awards (OUR choices and THEIR choices), the nominations are just for the Editorial (unless I am wrong and they are going to in fact limit our choice of voting, which I rather doubt than start complaining already).
Where is the squelch though?
Check the first lines here: http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/3855/page/1 , more espeficially "a robust Reader's Choice Awards to follow later in 2010." There will be the opportunity for people to give their opinion, and the mentioned opportunity for people to go zerg on their favorite games, and call players on their games servers and forums to zerg over this website to vote for their games.
There has never been any squelch, that is my point in the lacking of a point in this thread. This year there was simply a clearer definition between the Reader and the Editorial awards (OUR choices and THEIR choices), the nominations are just for the Editorial (unless I am wrong and they are going to in fact limit our choice of voting, which I rather doubt than start complaining already).
hrmm point taken i guess ill be willing to keep an open mind.
Wow. Amazing how snide people can get when there is no accountability.
For the record. I hold no opinion as to which should win which award. There is no secret agenda here. I am not pulling for one game or another. There is no hidden conspiracy to zerg a certain game and carry the day. My point was... wait for it... that a couple dozen guys giving an award to this or that game has minimal importance. However tens of thousands of people supporting one game or another is at least useful to both we as the gamer and the industry.
Last year when the nominees were picked by the editors, we voted on those nominees. The editors picks were compared against the winners of the voting process. I think that's far more useful in the long run than what is being done now.
I see nothing wrong with MMORPG.com awards going out according to the editors' votes.
I don't mind reading what MMORPG.com staff thinks once a year. For "majority voted" awards, I prefer checking the winners of websites that generate a lot more traffic.
EVE might win even often if these awards are voted.
It is - of course - unthinkable that EVE actually won on merit.
Give me liberty or give me lasers
Prehaps in another way: anyone who wants to vote would write a mini-review on why they think their game is the best.
They'd have to be at least half-serious to be taken in consideration(just nothing like "MY GAEM IS AWESOME CUZ I SAY IT") and voted as approved.
This would stop people from just using random scripts or calling their entire community to spam vote a certain game.