Originally posted by Gules_Aspen I know there are a lot of folks really thinking this one will be th eend-all....but I honestly won't be surprised if one of two things happens: It's another Horizons or pulls a WISH.I've read all I can about it, and can't say I see much attraction. Looks like they've focused so much on making it complicated that they forgot to add anything fun.....looks to be a game for someone who plays 40-50 hours week.At any rate, I'll be seriously surprised if it doesn't flop, and flop hard. Sorry. Can't believe anything claimed until I see it.
My thoughts exactly this game isn't going anywhere but the $5.99 bargin bin.
Originally posted by paradyme Originally posted by Gules_Aspen I know there are a lot of folks really thinking this one will be th eend-all....but I honestly won't be surprised if one of two things happens: It's another Horizons or pulls a WISH.I've read all I can about it, and can't say I see much attraction. Looks like they've focused so much on making it complicated that they forgot to add anything fun.....looks to be a game for someone who plays 40-50 hours week.At any rate, I'll be seriously surprised if it doesn't flop, and flop hard. Sorry. Can't believe anything claimed until I see it.
My thoughts exactly this game isn't going anywhere but the $5.99 bargin bin.
You can't be more mistaken, have you even read up about the game?
Nothing fun? You've got to be kidding me.
Exploring the land alone is fun, along with the mini games they are planning to add. You can't forget the snowshielding, hang gliding, and flying around with a dragon (just a note that, u don't just go from point A to point B when flying, u control it freely, u can go ahead and drop yourself to the ground, u'll die, or you could catch with the wind direction and speed and fly above the sky. And you get to ride Dodos!
Originally posted by Xzaro Originally posted by paradyme Originally posted by Gules_Aspen I know there are a lot of folks really thinking this one will be th eend-all....but I honestly won't be surprised if one of two things happens: It's another Horizons or pulls a WISH.I've read all I can about it, and can't say I see much attraction. Looks like they've focused so much on making it complicated that they forgot to add anything fun.....looks to be a game for someone who plays 40-50 hours week.At any rate, I'll be seriously surprised if it doesn't flop, and flop hard. Sorry. Can't believe anything claimed until I see it.
My thoughts exactly this game isn't going anywhere but the $5.99 bargin bin.
You can't be more mistaken, have you even read up about the game?
Nothing fun? You've got to be kidding me.
Exploring the land alone is fun, along with the mini games they are planning to add. You can't forget the snowshielding, hang gliding, and flying around with a dragon (just a note that, u don't just go from point A to point B when flying, u control it freely, u can go ahead and drop yourself to the ground, u'll die, or you could catch with the wind direction and speed and fly above the sky. And you get to ride Dodos!
that is just a fraction of it all...
Fun is different things to different people. I've read every last bit of info I can find- and it appears to be a snoozer. There is, from what I see, way too much emphasis on the political aspects, and way too many needless complications. We heard all these wonderful things about Horizons, both from testers and devs. We heard it all about WISH (which I did beta test, and thought it was awful, but that's another topic altogether). We're hearing it again, about a far too ambitious game from a small developer with few resources.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Again, I'll believe it when I see it. I won't be surprised if it makes it as a niche game for 2-3000 fans, but I honestly don't expect anything more than that.
Well you wont get the people enjoying the beta, and doing the right thing(working with the Devs), doing anything to harm their beta account... so I guess you wont get balance here.
People don't want to know if they are enjoying the game. That's a matter of opinion. What we want to know what this guy commented on. Things like chopiness and lagness in combat, movement and overall play. Wish had it and it sucked. DnL devs are just gutless trying to hide behind their NDA at this point especially if they are sticking to their self proclaimed release date. What a f ing joke. I was so ready for this game. Now I am beginning to think this is just a crock of sh@t
first of all,WHO says this supposed beta tester tells the truth.. as i said,if someone breaks NDA to bash a game,he is most likely to only give the negative aspect,exagerrate or tell complete lies..
the server engine has been built long before the game,which makes me to believe that if they had lag problems or whatever the guy is ranting about is due to client-stability,BETA-debug code,limitations in the beta code etc.. in other words: ITS PRETTY DAMN NORMAL!!!
if you cant accept that fact,than you suck as a beta testers and are better of playing some other games.beta's,nomamtter how close to release,are going to lag,be bugged,unoptimized,crash alot,and possibly empty.
the sad thing is,someone broke his NDA to show the negative aspects,and exaggerated or completely lied about certain aspects..But those who are in beta and who know the real truth are unable to refute those arguments and tell the world how things are really going..else they'd break their NDA and risk losing their account.
on a side note:they said 2000 people in beta (which is indeed a bit low imo).So depending on what time he's playing less people might be online.but even then i highly doubt the truth about this and the frequency of this happening.
oh and before i forget: to people bashing this game: Feel free to continue to bash this game while no one is able to respond.When the time is right,i'm positive people will prove you wrong,like when the game releases
keep trying,it might be weak atm and having a difficult time due to lack of information,but recent signs show its rising in power fast..Hurry before y'all get invited in beta and are unable to bash it anymore!!!
Originally posted by EonNachtgot "Sadly, battles in Dark and Light do not share the same beauty as the land on which they happen. Thanks to choppy animations, the enemy will often end up sliding up to you instead of actually sludging through the snow to attack. Spells, though massively animated, look less flashy and more like an experiment with lens flares in Photoshop. Combat is less about strategy and more about exploiting bad engines, as the player must first find the monster to target it." "If the player manages to survive against a difficult monster long enough to find them in the enveloping darkness, they may just die trying to figure out how to attack." "Another fallback for Dark and Light is its massive size. Upon playing the beta for over two weeks, this writer only spotted two other players. With the massiveness of the world of Ganareth, parties may be most difficult to find for a player" "The beta lacks any noticable quest implementation, the developers have decreed that there will be no cave indoor areas, and NPCs are completely absent. Finding another player to trade with is almost a quest in itself inside the large world of Ganareth. Though it does show tremendous amounts of promise, the beta's gameplay doesn't seem to offer anything more than pretty landscapes and multiple forms of transportation."
...And Go
Mark my words that I have played the beta and been booted a few weeks ago. And NONE of this is true except that the land is vast and expansive. Other players are extremely easy to find.. granted you are not hopelessly lost lol. But even if you are lost you can type a command to go to the nearest town (beta only command)
This guy is obviously nothing but a trouble maker and has not played this beta, nor has anyone that he has quoted. I have played the beta and this is all total bullspit.
Get a life LOSER and stop flaming games which you know nothing about or have never played. I hope he gives me his in game name when he decides to actually play it after it is released so other players can see his name to be and then go slaughter his faggot lying ass 5,000 times in a row ( I won't be able to play :[ ).
And this game will be out in April, guaranteed. It is ready NOW. None of what this loser speaks is true. This game is ready NOW and they are only adding polish to the game and fixing very hard to find little insignificant bugs. The game was very, very stable 3 weeks ago. I highly doubt that it has went 180 degrees in the other direction since then.
Some people piss me off. I'd ask this dude to send his beta acct info out and let someone else play if he hates it so much, but I can't ask him for what he doesn't have. It is all lies and total ignorant flaming, trust me
Am I saying that everyone will love this game? Hell no.
This game requires skill, brains and concentration at times. Some people hate exploration. All of the people that hate to explore and only have enough common sense to think far enough ahead to click the macro A button or the macro B button will likely hate Dark and Light.
For anyone desiring a completely skill based and challenging game where you can easily get lost in the sheer beauty and rugged wilderness will love Dark and Light.
I won't be playing because I am going to Iraq very soon now. I wish I could play. I just didn't have time to invest... or even to finish playing the beta, so I released honest info on gameplay and got kicked from the beta.
This game will however embarass DAoC, EQ2 and WoW. Trust me on this one.
heh
Seems NPC/AD gave acceptance to post the 'truth about dnl'
cheers for that,i'm happy they did cause those fake insults and those few fanbois from some other game bashing this (mm GuildWars perhaps?bahahaha) is kinda getting redicoulous imo ^^
edit:anyone noticing the recent bashposts on these boards are coming all from the same kids?? guess some troll-squad is going around,desperatly trying to prove their fanboysm by bashing this game,failing,crying about their failures,and trying again!
keep it going,i'm having a blast reading your pathetic silly rants!
lol wow 2 nda breakers one seems very ignarant and uneduatated and hates the game and the other is well wrote and seems mature and loves it alot even though he got kicked out of beta... hmmm
DnL looks very promising, and we all just have to wait when we get a chance to play it. Only thing I am scared of is the land size lol. I might get lost. Ohwell, could always just keep on running until I find a town or a mountain. If I find a mountain, I will just go snowboarding, until I see other people lol.
First do not believe all this total BS coming from trolls trying to bash this game, I wish so much i was going to be here for the release in April. But I'll be defending out countries political positions in Iraq and am told I will likely be there for 12 months. But hey, I'll definately be back to DnL when I return home! Wish me luck!
It is very possible to get lost in Ganareth. It is expansive and very huge. Especially the mountain ranges that just go on for miles and miles. Id did somehow make it from one side of the main land mass to the other trekking across the mountains and luckily avoiding tons of super high level mobs. This trek from one side to the other took my avatar over 6 hours time. This was running. This was not stopping to fight. This was simply running from one side to the other. Compare that to say the landmass in Ultima Online that you can run from the south to the north side (longest length of the land) in about 25 to 30 minutes. This should give you an idea of just how large Ganareth is. This is also the reason for all the different teleportation methods there are.
Another thing you got to be careful about just parachuting anywhere from a dragon ride. If you don't know what's below, it is very risky. If you don't know what's below you will likely land right in a pack of wolves, or even higher level mobs that will make your landing um no so peaceful. Heh. Makes it fun though. If you drop right over rugged mountains you'll likely land to your death with a jagged rock going through you or simply land too hard
Another thing about DnL is the fighting. Watching mages is awesome, but watching two pure warriors go at a battle is more fun then watching the Ultimate Fighting Championship. The moves are smooth and slick. Theres dodges and sometimes falling off balance or one gets knocked down backwards from a blow. Blood squirts out of wounds when initially hit. It really is good stuff. You'll all see it soon though
Greetings, the author you are looking for is me. However, many of your cries of NDA breach are ill-placed and legally incorrect. The website I work for, RPGamer, was given 2 seperate beta accounts. We've e-mailed the developmental staff telling them of our intent to share screenshots and write information concerning this MMORPG. They are very aware of our intent and our actions, yet the account remains very much alive.
Many of you are upset that your favorite game has been trashed. That is not what my impression of this game was intended to do. As a matter of fact, you saw a very limited portion of my article. I praised the landscapes and even the multiple forms of transportation. However, every game has a negative. Right now, Dark and Light's negative is the fact it is a very early beta. Every element of an RPG is missing from this game, instead you are left with pets, spells, and travel. There are no questing methods currently.
In my article, I covered the fact this was a very early lifecycle in Dark and Light. I also said we would be bringing further news and impressions as the beta gains more features. These are two omissions of the post you've chosen to attack needlessly.
On a personal note, I wish for this game to succeed as well. I was one of the few that ventured down into the cellar of the Los Angeles Convention Centre at E3 and viewed the game. We even gave it a favorable opinion by what the developers told us. They were very hospitable and many on our staff hope to see Dark and Light succeed. So much so that we are writing impressions on it. We're giving people up-to-date happenings on this game because we do hope it succeeds.
I apologize if you were all offended by my article, however this game speaks for itself at this phase. At a PVP testing just last weekend, half of the players experiences continual crashing. Though this is a very normal thing in betas, it simply signals a possible weakness on the part of this game. A weakness that deserves to be reported just as fairly as any strength.
Dark and Light has many, many weaknesses. It also has strengths. That is what my article was telling readers. This is a game starting off, and though it is quite young into its life, it has strengths many other MMORPGs do not. My article was meant simply to give people information about a game that, otherwise, is shrouded in much hype and plenty of mystery. If you wish people to get excited about this game, you will need negative and positive analysis.
I hope all of you will continue to hope the best for this game. I most certainly do as well. I will continue to play in hopes I see NPCs or quests soon, so I can write an impression telling readers of our site and other sites that this is a game that has stretched its legs and begun to grow wonderfully. I truly do think, with the planned interfaces and content, Dark and Light will be a good game. The problem is, none of that is here and it is slated to be released in 2 months.
I thank you for your time. If you would like to read the entire impression, please visit the link below. Also, if you have any questions concerning my impression or opinion, feel free to ask. I am more than glad to answer for any of my statements.
well, it is very easy to take someone as just another troll, as we have quite a handful on these boards, when no source, credit, or any information otherwise that would prove the worth of the quotes. I dearly hope the negative points you stressed will be ammended and the few positive points mentioned are as good, if not better, than what you say.
RPGamer - There is a site I never need to look at again, not that I ever had before reading this hehe.
When did you write this article, since there is no date on it? If it was any time in the last couple weeks, then buy a new computer or get a new ISP, because the combat issues you described are complete bull and are not being caused by the game.
As Ras said, this game is for people that want to think a bit while fighting. It is not a mindless point and click, then watch the fight game everyone is always crying about being tired of.
This game will not be for 'the masses' like WoW and EQII are. However, I expect it to have a moderate launch, with word of mouth keeping new subs flying in at record speeds afterward.
Bottom line, the gameplay is fantastic. The world is so big its crazy. There are so many new and innovative things implimented it would take several minutes to list them all.
Call me a fanboi (is there a different term for a girl?) all you want. I was sold on trying the game before, but after seeing it in action for myself, I am not only buying it, but so is anyone and everyone that takes what I have to say as the truth.
As I said, I would not expect a super launch in term of subs, but it will grow like wildfire once the public has gotten on Ganareth and seen this place for themselves.
I had no time yesterday to reply , just pasted somethings i read at the above mentioned site .
1) I dont have a DnL beta account , and thats why i started this thread to read different opinions which would help me to see it from different points of view and shape a general idea of the game . When i see something with my own eyes thats a totally different thing .
2) I have had no time to read much about DnL , so i didnt know about the company forbiding Beta -testers to share information with their fellow players ( which i find very strange anyway) .
3) the reason why i didnt paste the site's link was to avoid FanboyZZ111 to fload that very site with lots of flaming and bashing because thats a site i like and visit quite a lot . But it appears the writer came here on his own , earning my respect .
Maybe my mistake was that i didnt post something like : " this was what i've read and would apreciate your opinion on the matter , thus helping me and others with info and different points of view "
And i wouldnt have pasted that link anyways with replies Like
"Get a life looser "
or
"I wish i know his game name so we can attack him and make him quit"
3-how can we be sure that the above rants are honest?clearly is someone is breaching an NDA to bash a game then he might aswell exaggerate..therefore i think its not unreal to think most of his rants are exagerated and unreal.
4-Nice attempt at trolling, care to bring it over .net forums?or to show your real name?"
That is really what i dislike the most in the MMorpg world , people spitting out their versions as if they were the only variable .And absolutely not caring about hurting feelings of fellow players . Did anyone see something Like
"This Game really Suxx " Coming from me ?No.
Luckily there are quite a lot of players that like to discuss the things without trying to intimidate someone , but i guess i cant expect everyone to be mature and intelligent enough .
----------------------------- "Neon Light" Eon Night
As some things can be right and useless, can't some things be wrong and priceless? -Viktor Suikoden I
Originally posted by Malianea RPGamer - There is a site I never need to look at again, not that I ever had before reading this hehe.When did you write this article, since there is no date on it? If it was any time in the last couple weeks, then buy a new computer or get a new ISP, because the combat issues you described are complete bull and are not being caused by the game.
I wrote it just a few days ago. Prior to the recent server test. It is unfortunate you discount an entire website simply because of one point of view you disagree with, as well. That is your choice, however.
Thank you for your questions.
Edit: Eon, I appreciate your words. Please, though, post a link just so people won't be rabid. I can say, I'm pretty shocked people are saying they wish to kill or hurt me because I gave a point of view of the existing game. I never realized the MMORPG community was so zealous and seem to really abhor negative opinions. I just hope there are some, such as yourself, that choose to look for as many opinions as possible.
My opinion has expanded a bit as I began to get deeper into the features. It truly does have promise. Like someone else said, the trees do sway. Weather changes, the moon rises in its broken glory. The world is, for the lack of better words, beautiful. The environment, the feel, the atmosphere are all beautiful. The problem is, right now, there's nothing else. There's all this beauty and no real substance. As someone that hopes this game succeeds, I cannot wait to see what it is like in its full glory. With kingdoms, and quests, and beautiful landscapes all at once. This game will meet expectations and thensome if that happens.
Originally posted by Malianea RPGamer - There is a site I never need to look at again, not that I ever had before reading this hehe.
When did you write this article, since there is no date on it? If it was any time in the last couple weeks, then buy a new computer or get a new ISP, because the combat issues you described are complete bull and are not being caused by the game.
I wrote it just a few days ago. Prior to the recent server test. It is unfortunate you discount an entire website simply because of one point of view you disagree with, as well. That is your choice, however.
Thank you for your questions.
that still doesnt make my points about exaggeration,fake/false arguments etc.. untrue. i even doubt the intensions and reasons why this article was allowed.regardless of the truth or "what version of the truth" it holds
"i even doubt the intensions and reasons why this article was allowed.regardless of the truth or "what version of the truth" it holds"
The intention is information , and that from a site in which you dont have to pay to get news and info. Ah and
You mean to tell me that as long as you praise a game its ok for you to post your impressions , but if you have critics too you MUST have evil intentions?
I hope with all my heart that there are others here not like you
----------------------------- "Neon Light" Eon Night
As some things can be right and useless, can't some things be wrong and priceless? -Viktor Suikoden I
Ha Ha u fan-boi's are so sad, u havn't even played the game and yet ur calling the guy a lier. He's not even saying the game sux he's saying its in early beta and has ALOT of bugs to work out still. At worst he's saying this game will be atleast another year til it comes out and by then it will be grossly outdated and then they will have to push back the release date another year again to revamp the graphics engine.
Your website saying that DnL is a mess right now except for the massive size, beauty and transportation is nothing but crap.
This game is ready to go now. You make it seem like it's a huge mess and hard to fight.
My question is what kind of computer did you run your beta on before these total lies about hard to fight battles and non-smotth fights? Were you like paying on a 500 Mhz P2 with a dial up connection though AOL??? That's about the only way I see you getting the results that you mention.
Go play the game on a decent 3 Ghz computer with atleast 1 GB of Ram and atleast a Radeon 9800 video card and connected through a broadband connection and I guarantee you that as a beta player myself you will come back and your review will be completely different.
It is simply unfair to trash a game as good as DnL is only because you have a 5 year old computer.
Multiple crashes you mention are ubsurd. I crashed on the game twice in over 100 hours of gameplay. That is not frequent crashes.
Get your facts straight and give an honest review.
Either you are being paid by a different game to trash this game, or have interests in another mmo and want to trash this game unfairly - or my friend you are using old technology that isnt fair to the game - or you have never even played this game at all.
I am biased towards DnL only because I have played it a lot already. It is the greatest mmo ever period. It is ready for release now despite your ill attempts to make it seem likewise.
I am calling you out. Heres the question. An easy one. First how large is the games download? this is to see if you even played it. Secondly what system specs did you run it on?
Greatness if you are looking forward to Dark and Light - You will need to upgrade buddy.
You want atleast the equivalent of a 2.2 Ghz processor and a GB of Ram. Upgrade your ram to a GB and get a new video card in the $150 to $200 range and you should be able to run it at low settings. I ran it at medium settings with my machine (Dell 2.4 Ghz P4, 1 GB Ram, Radeon 9700, broadband)
I'd recommend atleast a 3.0 Ghz P4 with a minimum of a Radeon 9800 or a 6800 Nvidia card with atleast 1 GB of Ram and for sure a broadband connection for peak performance.
Originally posted by radlinCainEJW.... I am calling you out. Your website saying that DnL is a mess right now except for the massive size, beauty and transportation is nothing but crap.
First, this is not "my website". It is a website I work for. It also states that things have faults, not that it is a mess. It is your impression of what I say that dictates if you view it as a mess. My statements simply say this game is beautiful, but has faults in my eyes.
This game is ready to go now. You make it seem like it's a huge mess and hard to fight.
However, in multiple developer interviews they have stated this game's release date is "unlikely". For 3 months time, this game lacks any storyline content. This is from someone who has the game, plays it, and has played it for over 70 hours.
My question is what kind of computer did you run your beta on before these total lies about hard to fight battles and non-smotth fights? Were you like paying on a 500 Mhz P2 with a dial up connection though AOL??? That's about the only way I see you getting the results that you mention. Go play the game on a decent 3 Ghz computer with atleast 1 GB of Ram and atleast a Radeon 9800 video card and connected through a broadband connection and I guarantee you that as a beta player myself you will come back and your review will be completely different.
My PC lacks the RAM power you speak of, but reaches every other classification. The processor is 3 GHz, my connection is a high end cable connection, and my video card is very up to date. The problem is monster animations appear not fully done. They will walk, then slide up to you and attack. However, as the beta has progressed, latest graphics have begun to work more appropriately. There are still sliding problems with some monsters, but it is not as prevalant as previous. This will be covered in a future impression.
It is simply unfair to trash a game as good as DnL is only because you have a 5 year old computer. Multiple crashes you mention are ubsurd. I crashed on the game twice in over 100 hours of gameplay. That is not frequent crashes.
While I thank you for knowing my computer specs without me informing you, my computer is up to date with the latest hardware. The crashes were not mentioned in my impression, which leads me to think possibly you have problems unanswered. However, I was present for the PVP test and crashes were a large problem in the spell part of testing. They had to conduct the test again a day later to continue.
Get your facts straight and give an honest review. Either you are being paid by a different game to trash this game, or have interests in another mmo and want to trash this game unfairly - or my friend you are using old technology that isnt fair to the game - or you have never even played this game at all.
No, I do not receive payment. My only interest with this MMORPG is that it succeed and redefine conventions. That is my hope for any MMORPG.
I am biased towards DnL only because I have played it a lot already. It is the greatest mmo ever period. It is ready for release now despite your ill attempts to make it seem likewise.
The fact you have bias at all signifies the problem with your viewpoint. It is bias, and prone to undeserved defensiveness. I view this game simply as someone that wants to play it. As that person, I am disappointed, but I also see the positive. You, however, seem to notice only the positives and refuse to admit any negatives. That bias is one reason I wrote this impression, because people deserve to hear a voice that isn't biased either way.
I am calling you out. Heres the question. An easy one. First how large is the games download? this is to see if you even played it. Secondly what system specs did you run it on? This should be interesting.
The game's download? Do you mean the original patch or the actual client? Either way, the launcher is 266 KB, the actual .exe file is 2.95 MB, and the data area is 661 MB.
My specs are 512 MB RAM, 3 MHz processor, and 256 MB GeForce card. My connection is, I believe, a 4-6 MB/s cable connection from Comcast. Though my RAM lacks, all other hardware is able to play this game.
Thank you.
Yes, the requirements are quite high. They do, apaprently, plan on lowering the RAM requirement upon release to 512 MB.
Please accept my appoligies for all the trouble i apparently created here .Obviously this game has rabid fans , just like every other game . I just Hope that those people actually bother to READ all your impression in the site , all they have to do is copy and paste the link .
I must say that this syndrom is not new for me , when you play games like 14 years now and buy game mags like 10 years you've seen it all .
"MY mag is better than your mag , my commodore is better than your Amiga" and so on and so on "
this is nothing new , although its as bothersome as in its starts . I just wish that someday sometime the gamer comunity stops this futile Side-wars that kills the fun and pisses off
people we're all players , so if you see it on the larger scale we're all on the same side .
----------------------------- "Neon Light" Eon Night
As some things can be right and useless, can't some things be wrong and priceless? -Viktor Suikoden I
Originally posted by EonNachtgot Cain Please accept my appoligies for all the trouble i apparently created here .Obviously this game has rabid fans , just like every other game . I just Hope that those people actually bother to READ all your impression in the site , all they have to do is copy and paste the link .I must say that this syndrom is not new for me , when you play games like 14 years now and buy game mags like 10 years you've seen it all ."MY mag is better than your mag , my commodore is better than your Amiga" and so on and so on " this is nothing new , although its as bothersome as in its starts . I just wish that someday sometime the gamer comunity stops this futile Side-wars that kills the fun and pisses offpeople we're all players , so if you see it on the larger scale we're all on the same side .
That is quite alright. Everyone should talk about this game. It really can be a great game, and I hope it meets that greatness as it progresses. Every game has great fans. I'm, personally, a big fan of City of Heroes. I did not expect death threats to come from posting it.
I will certainly continue to write impressions, though. People like you are the reason I write. People that actually want different opinions. I just hope my next one will be a lot more positive.
I must take my leave, though. I hope all of you have a plesant playing time, no matter what MMORPG, and I hope everyone can cool off and realize that my opinion was just one of billions.
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How about you trust neither and wait till the game comes out or some real information is released :P
My thoughts exactly this game isn't going anywhere but the $5.99 bargin bin.
My thoughts exactly this game isn't going anywhere but the $5.99 bargin bin.
You can't be more mistaken, have you even read up about the game?
Nothing fun? You've got to be kidding me.
Exploring the land alone is fun, along with the mini games they are planning to add. You can't forget the snowshielding, hang gliding, and flying around with a dragon (just a note that, u don't just go from point A to point B when flying, u control it freely, u can go ahead and drop yourself to the ground, u'll die, or you could catch with the wind direction and speed and fly above the sky. And you get to ride Dodos!
that is just a fraction of it all...
My thoughts exactly this game isn't going anywhere but the $5.99 bargin bin.
You can't be more mistaken, have you even read up about the game?
Nothing fun? You've got to be kidding me.
Exploring the land alone is fun, along with the mini games they are planning to add. You can't forget the snowshielding, hang gliding, and flying around with a dragon (just a note that, u don't just go from point A to point B when flying, u control it freely, u can go ahead and drop yourself to the ground, u'll die, or you could catch with the wind direction and speed and fly above the sky. And you get to ride Dodos!
that is just a fraction of it all...
Fun is different things to different people. I've read every last bit of info I can find- and it appears to be a snoozer. There is, from what I see, way too much emphasis on the political aspects, and way too many needless complications. We heard all these wonderful things about Horizons, both from testers and devs. We heard it all about WISH (which I did beta test, and thought it was awful, but that's another topic altogether). We're hearing it again, about a far too ambitious game from a small developer with few resources.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Again, I'll believe it when I see it. I won't be surprised if it makes it as a niche game for 2-3000 fans, but I honestly don't expect anything more than that.
Bite me, Turbine.
first of all,WHO says this supposed beta tester tells the truth..
as i said,if someone breaks NDA to bash a game,he is most likely to only give the negative aspect,exagerrate or tell complete lies..
the server engine has been built long before the game,which makes me to believe that if they had lag problems or whatever the guy is ranting about is due to client-stability,BETA-debug code,limitations in the beta code etc.. in other words: ITS PRETTY DAMN NORMAL!!!
if you cant accept that fact,than you suck as a beta testers and are better of playing some other games.beta's,nomamtter how close to release,are going to lag,be bugged,unoptimized,crash alot,and possibly empty.
the sad thing is,someone broke his NDA to show the negative aspects,and exaggerated or completely lied about certain aspects..But those who are in beta and who know the real truth are unable to refute those arguments and tell the world how things are really going..else they'd break their NDA and risk losing their account.
on a side note:they said 2000 people in beta (which is indeed a bit low imo).So depending on what time he's playing less people might be online.but even then i highly doubt the truth about this and the frequency of this happening.
oh and before i forget:
to people bashing this game: Feel free to continue to bash this game while no one is able to respond.When the time is right,i'm positive people will prove you wrong,like when the game releases
keep trying,it might be weak atm and having a difficult time due to lack of information,but recent signs show its rising in power fast..Hurry before y'all get invited in beta and are unable to bash it anymore!!!
This guy is obviously nothing but a trouble maker and has not played this beta, nor has anyone that he has quoted. I have played the beta and this is all total bullspit.
Get a life LOSER and stop flaming games which you know nothing about or have never played. I hope he gives me his in game name when he decides to actually play it after it is released so other players can see his name to be and then go slaughter his faggot lying ass 5,000 times in a row ( I won't be able to play :[ ).
And this game will be out in April, guaranteed. It is ready NOW. None of what this loser speaks is true. This game is ready NOW and they are only adding polish to the game and fixing very hard to find little insignificant bugs. The game was very, very stable 3 weeks ago. I highly doubt that it has went 180 degrees in the other direction since then.
Some people piss me off. I'd ask this dude to send his beta acct info out and let someone else play if he hates it so much, but I can't ask him for what he doesn't have. It is all lies and total ignorant flaming, trust me
Am I saying that everyone will love this game? Hell no.
This game requires skill, brains and concentration at times. Some people hate exploration. All of the people that hate to explore and only have enough common sense to think far enough ahead to click the macro A button or the macro B button will likely hate Dark and Light.
For anyone desiring a completely skill based and challenging game where you can easily get lost in the sheer beauty and rugged wilderness will love Dark and Light.
I won't be playing because I am going to Iraq very soon now. I wish I could play. I just didn't have time to invest... or even to finish playing the beta, so I released honest info on gameplay and got kicked from the beta.
This game will however embarass DAoC, EQ2 and WoW. Trust me on this one.
heh
Seems NPC/AD gave acceptance to post the 'truth about dnl'
cheers for that,i'm happy they did cause those fake insults and those few fanbois from some other game bashing this (mm GuildWars perhaps?bahahaha) is kinda getting redicoulous imo ^^
edit:anyone noticing the recent bashposts on these boards are coming all from the same kids??
guess some troll-squad is going around,desperatly trying to prove their fanboysm by bashing this game,failing,crying about their failures,and trying again!
keep it going,i'm having a blast reading your pathetic silly rants!
oh,gonne start a topic about this
lol wow 2 nda breakers one seems very ignarant and uneduatated and hates the game and the other is well wrote and seems mature and loves it alot even though he got kicked out of beta... hmmm
who to beleive :P
"It's the darkness that brings us power"
~Greatness~
Currently Playing:
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Yes.. I have time for a quick post here.
First do not believe all this total BS coming from trolls trying to bash this game, I wish so much i was going to be here for the release in April. But I'll be defending out countries political positions in Iraq and am told I will likely be there for 12 months. But hey, I'll definately be back to DnL when I return home! Wish me luck!
It is very possible to get lost in Ganareth. It is expansive and very huge. Especially the mountain ranges that just go on for miles and miles. Id did somehow make it from one side of the main land mass to the other trekking across the mountains and luckily avoiding tons of super high level mobs. This trek from one side to the other took my avatar over 6 hours time. This was running. This was not stopping to fight. This was simply running from one side to the other. Compare that to say the landmass in Ultima Online that you can run from the south to the north side (longest length of the land) in about 25 to 30 minutes. This should give you an idea of just how large Ganareth is. This is also the reason for all the different teleportation methods there are.
Another thing you got to be careful about just parachuting anywhere from a dragon ride. If you don't know what's below, it is very risky. If you don't know what's below you will likely land right in a pack of wolves, or even higher level mobs that will make your landing um no so peaceful. Heh. Makes it fun though. If you drop right over rugged mountains you'll likely land to your death with a jagged rock going through you or simply land too hard
Another thing about DnL is the fighting. Watching mages is awesome, but watching two pure warriors go at a battle is more fun then watching the Ultimate Fighting Championship. The moves are smooth and slick. Theres dodges and sometimes falling off balance or one gets knocked down backwards from a blow. Blood squirts out of wounds when initially hit. It really is good stuff. You'll all see it soon though
as awesome as that sounds i really don't have much more reason to believe you than that first troll, other than i want to believe it.
Make of it what you will.
Greetings, the author you are looking for is me. However, many of your cries of NDA breach are ill-placed and legally incorrect. The website I work for, RPGamer, was given 2 seperate beta accounts. We've e-mailed the developmental staff telling them of our intent to share screenshots and write information concerning this MMORPG. They are very aware of our intent and our actions, yet the account remains very much alive.
Many of you are upset that your favorite game has been trashed. That is not what my impression of this game was intended to do. As a matter of fact, you saw a very limited portion of my article. I praised the landscapes and even the multiple forms of transportation. However, every game has a negative. Right now, Dark and Light's negative is the fact it is a very early beta. Every element of an RPG is missing from this game, instead you are left with pets, spells, and travel. There are no questing methods currently.
In my article, I covered the fact this was a very early lifecycle in Dark and Light. I also said we would be bringing further news and impressions as the beta gains more features. These are two omissions of the post you've chosen to attack needlessly.
On a personal note, I wish for this game to succeed as well. I was one of the few that ventured down into the cellar of the Los Angeles Convention Centre at E3 and viewed the game. We even gave it a favorable opinion by what the developers told us. They were very hospitable and many on our staff hope to see Dark and Light succeed. So much so that we are writing impressions on it. We're giving people up-to-date happenings on this game because we do hope it succeeds.
I apologize if you were all offended by my article, however this game speaks for itself at this phase. At a PVP testing just last weekend, half of the players experiences continual crashing. Though this is a very normal thing in betas, it simply signals a possible weakness on the part of this game. A weakness that deserves to be reported just as fairly as any strength.
Dark and Light has many, many weaknesses. It also has strengths. That is what my article was telling readers. This is a game starting off, and though it is quite young into its life, it has strengths many other MMORPGs do not. My article was meant simply to give people information about a game that, otherwise, is shrouded in much hype and plenty of mystery. If you wish people to get excited about this game, you will need negative and positive analysis.
I hope all of you will continue to hope the best for this game. I most certainly do as well. I will continue to play in hopes I see NPCs or quests soon, so I can write an impression telling readers of our site and other sites that this is a game that has stretched its legs and begun to grow wonderfully. I truly do think, with the planned interfaces and content, Dark and Light will be a good game. The problem is, none of that is here and it is slated to be released in 2 months.
I thank you for your time. If you would like to read the entire impression, please visit the link below. Also, if you have any questions concerning my impression or opinion, feel free to ask. I am more than glad to answer for any of my statements.
Thank you.
http://www.rpgamer.com/games/other/pc/dal/impressions/dal01.html
well, it is very easy to take someone as just another troll, as we have quite a handful on these boards, when no source, credit, or any information otherwise that would prove the worth of the quotes. I dearly hope the negative points you stressed will be ammended and the few positive points mentioned are as good, if not better, than what you say.
Make of it what you will.
RPGamer - There is a site I never need to look at again, not that I ever had before reading this hehe.
When did you write this article, since there is no date on it? If it was any time in the last couple weeks, then buy a new computer or get a new ISP, because the combat issues you described are complete bull and are not being caused by the game.
As Ras said, this game is for people that want to think a bit while fighting. It is not a mindless point and click, then watch the fight game everyone is always crying about being tired of.
This game will not be for 'the masses' like WoW and EQII are. However, I expect it to have a moderate launch, with word of mouth keeping new subs flying in at record speeds afterward.
Bottom line, the gameplay is fantastic. The world is so big its crazy. There are so many new and innovative things implimented it would take several minutes to list them all.
Call me a fanboi (is there a different term for a girl?) all you want. I was sold on trying the game before, but after seeing it in action for myself, I am not only buying it, but so is anyone and everyone that takes what I have to say as the truth.
As I said, I would not expect a super launch in term of subs, but it will grow like wildfire once the public has gotten on Ganareth and seen this place for themselves.
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I had no time yesterday to reply , just pasted somethings i read at the above mentioned site .
1) I dont have a DnL beta account , and thats why i started this thread to read different opinions which would help me to see it from different points of view and shape a general idea of the game . When i see something with my own eyes thats a totally different thing .
2) I have had no time to read much about DnL , so i didnt know about the company forbiding Beta -testers to share information with their fellow players ( which i find very strange anyway) .
3) the reason why i didnt paste the site's link was to avoid FanboyZZ111 to fload that very site with lots of flaming and bashing because thats a site i like and visit quite a lot . But it appears the writer came here on his own , earning my respect .
Maybe my mistake was that i didnt post something like :
" this was what i've read and would apreciate your opinion on the matter , thus helping me and others with info and different points of view "
And i wouldnt have pasted that link anyways with replies Like
"Get a life looser "
or
"I wish i know his game name so we can attack him and make him quit"
3-how can we be sure that the above rants are honest?clearly is someone is breaching an NDA to bash a game then he might aswell exaggerate..therefore i think its not unreal to think most of his rants are exagerated and unreal.
4-Nice attempt at trolling, care to bring it over .net forums?or to show your real name?"
That is really what i dislike the most in the MMorpg world , people spitting out their versions as if they were the only variable .And absolutely not caring about hurting feelings of fellow players .
Did anyone see something Like
"This Game really Suxx " Coming from me ?No.
Luckily there are quite a lot of players that like to discuss the things without trying to intimidate someone , but i guess i cant expect everyone to be mature and intelligent enough .
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"Neon Light" Eon Night
As some things can be right and useless, can't some things be wrong and priceless? -Viktor Suikoden I
I wrote it just a few days ago. Prior to the recent server test. It is unfortunate you discount an entire website simply because of one point of view you disagree with, as well. That is your choice, however.
Thank you for your questions.
Edit: Eon, I appreciate your words. Please, though, post a link just so people won't be rabid. I can say, I'm pretty shocked people are saying they wish to kill or hurt me because I gave a point of view of the existing game. I never realized the MMORPG community was so zealous and seem to really abhor negative opinions. I just hope there are some, such as yourself, that choose to look for as many opinions as possible.
My opinion has expanded a bit as I began to get deeper into the features. It truly does have promise. Like someone else said, the trees do sway. Weather changes, the moon rises in its broken glory. The world is, for the lack of better words, beautiful. The environment, the feel, the atmosphere are all beautiful. The problem is, right now, there's nothing else. There's all this beauty and no real substance. As someone that hopes this game succeeds, I cannot wait to see what it is like in its full glory. With kingdoms, and quests, and beautiful landscapes all at once. This game will meet expectations and thensome if that happens.
I wrote it just a few days ago. Prior to the recent server test. It is unfortunate you discount an entire website simply because of one point of view you disagree with, as well. That is your choice, however.
Thank you for your questions.
that still doesnt make my points about exaggeration,fake/false arguments etc.. untrue.
i even doubt the intensions and reasons why this article was allowed.regardless of the truth or "what version of the truth" it holds
"i even doubt the intensions and reasons why this article was allowed.regardless of the truth or "what version of the truth" it holds"
The intention is information , and that from a site in which you dont have to pay to get news and info.
Ah and
You mean to tell me that as long as you praise a game its ok for you to post your impressions , but if you have critics too you MUST have evil intentions?
I hope with all my heart that there are others here not like you
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"Neon Light" Eon Night
As some things can be right and useless, can't some things be wrong and priceless? -Viktor Suikoden I
Ha Ha u fan-boi's are so sad, u havn't even played the game and yet ur calling the guy a lier. He's not even saying the game sux he's saying its in early beta and has ALOT of bugs to work out still. At worst he's saying this game will be atleast another year til it comes out and by then it will be grossly outdated and then they will have to push back the release date another year again to revamp the graphics engine.
CainEJW.... I am calling you out.
Your website saying that DnL is a mess right now except for the massive size, beauty and transportation is nothing but crap.
This game is ready to go now. You make it seem like it's a huge mess and hard to fight.
My question is what kind of computer did you run your beta on before these total lies about hard to fight battles and non-smotth fights? Were you like paying on a 500 Mhz P2 with a dial up connection though AOL??? That's about the only way I see you getting the results that you mention.
Go play the game on a decent 3 Ghz computer with atleast 1 GB of Ram and atleast a Radeon 9800 video card and connected through a broadband connection and I guarantee you that as a beta player myself you will come back and your review will be completely different.
It is simply unfair to trash a game as good as DnL is only because you have a 5 year old computer.
Multiple crashes you mention are ubsurd. I crashed on the game twice in over 100 hours of gameplay. That is not frequent crashes.
Get your facts straight and give an honest review.
Either you are being paid by a different game to trash this game, or have interests in another mmo and want to trash this game unfairly - or my friend you are using old technology that isnt fair to the game - or you have never even played this game at all.
I am biased towards DnL only because I have played it a lot already. It is the greatest mmo ever period. It is ready for release now despite your ill attempts to make it seem likewise.
I am calling you out. Heres the question. An easy one. First how large is the games download? this is to see if you even played it. Secondly what system specs did you run it on?
This should be interesting.
Wow, many beta-testers themselves are saying there game experiences. Different opinions too.
~Greatness~
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Greatness if you are looking forward to Dark and Light - You will need to upgrade buddy.
You want atleast the equivalent of a 2.2 Ghz processor and a GB of Ram. Upgrade your ram to a GB and get a new video card in the $150 to $200 range and you should be able to run it at low settings. I ran it at medium settings with my machine (Dell 2.4 Ghz P4, 1 GB Ram, Radeon 9700, broadband)
I'd recommend atleast a 3.0 Ghz P4 with a minimum of a Radeon 9800 or a 6800 Nvidia card with atleast 1 GB of Ram and for sure a broadband connection for peak performance.
~Greatness~
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First, this is not "my website". It is a website I work for. It also states that things have faults, not that it is a mess. It is your impression of what I say that dictates if you view it as a mess. My statements simply say this game is beautiful, but has faults in my eyes.
However, in multiple developer interviews they have stated this game's release date is "unlikely". For 3 months time, this game lacks any storyline content. This is from someone who has the game, plays it, and has played it for over 70 hours.
My PC lacks the RAM power you speak of, but reaches every other classification. The processor is 3 GHz, my connection is a high end cable connection, and my video card is very up to date. The problem is monster animations appear not fully done. They will walk, then slide up to you and attack. However, as the beta has progressed, latest graphics have begun to work more appropriately. There are still sliding problems with some monsters, but it is not as prevalant as previous. This will be covered in a future impression.
While I thank you for knowing my computer specs without me informing you, my computer is up to date with the latest hardware. The crashes were not mentioned in my impression, which leads me to think possibly you have problems unanswered. However, I was present for the PVP test and crashes were a large problem in the spell part of testing. They had to conduct the test again a day later to continue.
No, I do not receive payment. My only interest with this MMORPG is that it succeed and redefine conventions. That is my hope for any MMORPG.
The fact you have bias at all signifies the problem with your viewpoint. It is bias, and prone to undeserved defensiveness. I view this game simply as someone that wants to play it. As that person, I am disappointed, but I also see the positive. You, however, seem to notice only the positives and refuse to admit any negatives. That bias is one reason I wrote this impression, because people deserve to hear a voice that isn't biased either way.
The game's download? Do you mean the original patch or the actual client? Either way, the launcher is 266 KB, the actual .exe file is 2.95 MB, and the data area is 661 MB.
My specs are 512 MB RAM, 3 MHz processor, and 256 MB GeForce card. My connection is, I believe, a 4-6 MB/s cable connection from Comcast. Though my RAM lacks, all other hardware is able to play this game.
Thank you.
Yes, the requirements are quite high. They do, apaprently, plan on lowering the RAM requirement upon release to 512 MB.
Cain
Please accept my appoligies for all the trouble i apparently created here .Obviously this game has rabid fans , just like every other game .
I just Hope that those people actually bother to READ all your impression in the site , all they have to do is copy and paste the link .
I must say that this syndrom is not new for me , when you play games like 14 years now and buy game mags like 10 years you've seen it all .
"MY mag is better than your mag , my commodore is better than your Amiga" and so on and so on "
this is nothing new , although its as bothersome as in its starts . I just wish that someday sometime the gamer comunity stops this futile Side-wars that kills the fun and pisses off
people we're all players , so if you see it on the larger scale we're all on the same side .
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"Neon Light" Eon Night
As some things can be right and useless, can't some things be wrong and priceless? -Viktor Suikoden I
That is quite alright. Everyone should talk about this game. It really can be a great game, and I hope it meets that greatness as it progresses. Every game has great fans. I'm, personally, a big fan of City of Heroes. I did not expect death threats to come from posting it.
I will certainly continue to write impressions, though. People like you are the reason I write. People that actually want different opinions. I just hope my next one will be a lot more positive.
I must take my leave, though. I hope all of you have a plesant playing time, no matter what MMORPG, and I hope everyone can cool off and realize that my opinion was just one of billions.
Thank you, and good journies.