after i wrote a long reply disproving a lot of things in this threads,having iexplore crashing and losing what i wrote (though i copy'd it to clipboard,but seemed to have gotten lost).then having to restarted with a smaller post still adressingthe same,posting the message and being unable to find it after it is posting () i decided to let it rest and not reply since apparently someone does not want me to
anyway,no point in proving these silly fanboys to be wrong in their arguments.they take biased,moot opinions for facts..which it isnt
while the article might hold some truth,the article is not an informative article,its biased,opinions and moot.plus purposedly containing exaggerrated elements.
let the fanboys cry...anyone with a decent brain knows to not pay attention to their bashing's anyway...
The game's download? Do you mean the original patch or the actual client? Either way, the launcher is 266 KB, the actual .exe file is 2.95 MB, and the data area is 661 MB.
Hmmm 661 MB eh? That's kinda funny. You are obviously missing more then RAM buddy. Since there is a launcher at 47 KB, not 266. The .exe file is not 2.95 MB but 431 KB. And the game files (of which there are 3 of them) are 892 MB, 780 MB and 918 MB for a total game file of 2.59 GB, not 661 MB. LMFAO. Ummm I think you might be missing some game files too, ROTF..maybe that's why everything isn't working correctly. Good grief!
I knew that your answer would be entertaining, but I alteast thought if you just made up the games size, you could guess at closer then what you did. Good try though.
I must say i didnt quite understand your post , it must be my english, or it must be your writing.
Anyway if you are refering to me when your say that i
"Take opinions for a fact "
Than you are completely wrong , why ?
Because if i did , i wouldnt have bothered to ask for opinions in here , do you follow me ? Ah and pal , people have called me a lot of names and i might be all of 'em . but rest assured that there is something i am not nd that is a Fanboy , be it of a game , of a political party or whatever.
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We have two completely different stories about the beta game mechanics of Dark and Light from two people who have obviously broken the NDA and accept that... And they are supposedly willing to share so many intricate details for the sakes of our curious minds. Everything from game mechanics to the exact size of the game files differ greatly.
So here's the real question here I'm curious to poll (as entertaining as this thread has become)
Originally posted by zaxtor99 Well, Well Well. We have two completely different stories about the beta game mechanics of Dark and Light from two people who have obviously broken the NDA and accept that and are supposedly willing to share so many intricate details for the sakes of our curious minds. Everything from game mechanics to the exact size of the game files differ greatly. So here's the real question here I'm curious to poll (as entertaining as this thread has become)
Allow me to state again, I am not under the NDA. Our key was given to us because we are a website. We were given 2 accounts which to test from two different vantage points. We then sent an e-mail to the developers telling them of our intent. They then replied to that e-mail.
However, as to game size, I got my filesize directly from the beta folder. I am also Meandrine in the beta itself. I've posted the same initial letter on both forums. Any question concerning my playing this game is a very dead point, as I've provided enough proof.
Wow. We need to change the definition of 'Fanboy' in the dictionary. One word would suffice- 'Radlin'.
Calm down a little before you make yourself look bad. Check the poll and see....you have no credibility. No on eknows if YOU really played the beta. People will believe something that at least TRIES to be objective, which you clearly aren't. You sound like they could ship an old AOL CD in a Dark and Light box and you'd wet yourself over it
And well...Cain gave you his in-game ID. What do you have to say now? That he didn't play it?
This sounds more like Horizons with every post . I could care less if it's good, if it's bad, or if it ever ships- it's sparked no interest to me whatsoever, but it's funny to see how rabid people get if everyone doesn't bow down and worship the game that happens to be flavor of the month here.
This sounds more like Horizons with every post . I could care less if it's good, if it's bad, or if it ever ships- it's sparked no interest to me whatsoever, but it's funny to see how rabid people get if everyone doesn't bow down and worship the game that happens to be flavor of the month here.
This is exactly what I have been saying here and on the DnL site. People just blindly following this and most no jack about the actual gameplay. It's amazing
There's no doubt in my mind that Cain is a objective beta tester. The game is enjoyable to test when it works. There are many crash bugs and bugs that prevent many members from even logging into their accounts.
The game is not near completion yet. Content has to be added. I have no doubt it'll be a blast when it's finished, but imo, late April doesn't seem remotely realistic, unless the devs are hiding finished parts of the game from the beta. (Could be possible, but I doubts it)
This sounds more like Horizons with every post . I could care less if it's good, if it's bad, or if it ever ships- it's sparked no interest to me whatsoever, but it's funny to see how rabid people get if everyone doesn't bow down and worship the game that happens to be flavor of the month here.
This is exactly what I have been saying here and on the DnL site. People just blindly following this and most no jack about the actual gameplay. It's amazing
yes..
too bad that Dnl promises great PvP gameplay,destructable cities/fortresses/houses and a whole game with the ongoing aspect of war and conflict between the Dark and the Light.
that,and the other 90 features which set the game apart from every game out there,developped,live,or canceled...
please continue to spread ignorance about a game you obviously know nothing about.. 'oh it has a big world to explore!it must be like horizons!!" rrighht.
Originally posted by Darksoul_ yes.. too bad that Dnl promises great PvP gameplay,destructable cities/fortresses/houses and a whole game with the ongoing aspect of war and conflict between the Dark and the Light. that,and the other 90 features which set the game apart from every game out there,developped,live,or canceled... please continue to spread ignorance about a game you obviously know nothing about..'oh it has a big world to explore!it must be like horizons!!"rrighht.
Ignorance.Part 2
First off- I was referring to a few beta testers screaming about how great it is, and as soon as someone DARES to have a differing opinion, the legions of fans show up and start with the insults and name calling. Just like Horizons was. And when it was released, it was crap, and all the fanboys in the world couldn't change that.
Second- Take out PvP, replace 'Dark and Light' with 'Withered Aegis', and well.....same promises.
Facts: No one knows if it'll ever see the light of day. No one knows if it's going to be any good. No one knows if the client is going to crash every 5 minutes. No one knows if the server can handle the connections. No one knows if the database is going to be up to the task.
Every last one of us has seen the fan-hyped games of the past couple years- WISH, Horizons, Lineage 2, Face of Mankind, EQ2, WoW. Of that list, 2 of them are even anywhere close to delivering on the hype- and they both come from large developers with proven track records. Anyone with any experience is NOT going to take DnL, or any other game, seriously until it's out, running, and can be seen to deliver. It's called reality. Once burned, twice shy, as they say.
yes.. too bad that Dnl promises great PvP gameplay,destructable cities/fortresses/houses and a whole game with the ongoing aspect of war and conflict between the Dark and the Light. that,and the other 90 features which set the game apart from every game out there,developped,live,or canceled... please continue to spread ignorance about a game you obviously know nothing about..'oh it has a big world to explore!it must be like horizons!!"rrighht.
Ignorance.Part 2
First off- I was referring to a few beta testers screaming about how great it is, and as soon as someone DARES to have a differing opinion, the legions of fans show up and start with the insults and name calling. Just like Horizons was. And when it was released, it was crap, and all the fanboys in the world couldn't change that.
Second- Take out PvP, replace 'Dark and Light' with 'Withered Aegis', and well.....same promises.
Facts: No one knows if it'll ever see the light of day. No one knows if it's going to be any good. No one knows if the client is going to crash every 5 minutes. No one knows if the server can handle the connections. No one knows if the database is going to be up to the task.
Every last one of us has seen the fan-hyped games of the past couple years- WISH, Horizons, Lineage 2, Face of Mankind, EQ2, WoW. Of that list, 2 of them are even anywhere close to delivering on the hype- and they both come from large developers with proven track records. Anyone with any experience is NOT going to take DnL, or any other game, seriously until it's out, running, and can be seen to deliver. It's called reality. Once burned, twice shy, as they say.
heh dont get me wrong,i hate fanboys and i consider myself to not be one.if i looked like that then its just cause i have reason to defend this game from the arguments given.
i trust in the game and i follow it cause the devs convinced me they know what they where doing.IF they deliver its promised features it will be a great game,thats all i'm saying here. i never said how dnl is the greatest game and thats its flawless,no thats silly and untrue. but if they deliver everything they promise,or even half of it,its going to be a great game and will certainly hold my interest for a long time to come..
but seeing some people screaming its same as every other game around and that it sucks,makes me want to slap them with a book about what dnl promises and what horizon's realized.
whether they will realize everything they promise is a different discussion,which can be discussed with every game in development atm...
and no,dnl is not just horizons with pvp.if thats what you believe ,then i think you need to reread a few things about dnl,cause you seem to be misinformed.
heh,i'd like to see arguments in your opinion that dnl is the same as horizons with pvp. please elaborate and give arguments,i'm awaiting them
if EonNachtgot wanted to be objective with this thread, there should have been positive comments as well. otherwise with the highly negative comments and the "and go" at the end it resembles trolling. if this truly was not EonNachtgot's intention then its a misunderstanding but you cant blame people for thinking this. also i again reiterate what i said in my previous post: i find the info sketchy as it has no citations, system specs, play period, dates of playing, etc.
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Thanks for the impressions Cain, I would rather know how the game is actually shaping up, rather than just be fed the info the devs release. Not saying thats a bad thing but its always good to get an inside opinion.
This sounds more like Horizons with every post . I could care less if it's good, if it's bad, or if it ever ships- it's sparked no interest to me whatsoever, but it's funny to see how rabid people get if everyone doesn't bow down and worship the game that happens to be flavor of the month here.
This is exactly what I have been saying here and on the DnL site. People just blindly following this and most no jack about the actual gameplay. It's amazing
yes..
too bad that Dnl promises great PvP gameplay,destructable cities/fortresses/houses and a whole game with the ongoing aspect of war and conflict between the Dark and the Light.
that,and the other 90 features which set the game apart from every game out there,developped,live,or canceled...
please continue to spread ignorance about a game you obviously know nothing about.. 'oh it has a big world to explore!it must be like horizons!!" rrighht.
Ignorance.Part 2
Man please don't be an idiot. I am talking about the actual gameplay. Those ideas are great. I personally love everyone of them. Wish sounded great too but the gameplay was horrible. Asking for some answers about the gameplay and you are quoting what a game is promising? What game doesn't promise alot?
The great part is look up the definition of ignorance you fool. It means being uninformed. Which is what alot of people (even on there own site) are saying about their own game. Don't ever get into law or join a debate team for that matter. Unreal.
i voted the last option. not because i believe either one of them is BSing, but because we really do just need to wait and find out ourselves. Any review of the beta is just that, a review of an incomplete game. When the game is complete we can make our decisions. I invite all the fanboys and all the trolls alike to do the same, just take a deep breath . . . and wait.
i've hyped this game my fair share and i think its just time to tell everyone to stop basing decisions on hype. Think for yourself, make your own inferences based on the facts that have been given to us by the devs, not the testers (we have all seen how some review betas before). Shutup and let people decide for themselves if they want to play this game. I am now officially sick of the hype, as well as the anti-hype.
Darksoul- I'm not going to go back and quote all that stuff, you know what's been said.
You missed the point- DnL isn't the same as Horizons. I'm just saying that they both make big promises. They both have rabid followers shouting "Heathen!" at anyone who doesn't smile, nod, and agree that it's the game to end all games. Horizons didn't deliver. I have no reason to believe the shoestring operation produsing DnL can, either, and every reason, from experience, to doubt it.
Read the statements from the devs over at AE/Tulga/whatever it is now. They STILL claim all this stuff is in game and working, and everyone knows it's not. Developers stretch the truth. They make things look good for a reason. They have to suck people in, and raise money, somehow. Just business.
I've only responded here because I hate seeing people crucified over opinions. Games are that, simply- some will like it, some won't. I have no vested interest here at all- I won't buy it no matter how good everyone says it is, because it's not looking like anything I'd want to play.
On the plus side, at least it seems likely all this posting by beta-testers means we might avoid a Mourning-like "expose" claiming there is no beta test
My in-game name was "Ikefaro" in the DnL beta. I put in well over 100 hours of gameplay. Honestly there were 2 times the game client crashed that I remember. You can all say that I am only a fanboi all you like, but I like the game only because I played it for so many hours. I honestly think i will miss this game more then my current girlfriend here. It simply is that good.
I said the game is ready for release now, which it is. There are some faults, yes but the anti-bias posts on this thread make the game look like its a total disaster which simply is very far from the truth. They have claimed constant crashing in testing which had to be re-tested at a later date (I can only assume they retested it later after they purchased adequate computers capable of handling the games demanding spec requirements) They claim that fighting mobs is nearly impossible, ugly with flashes of light and sliding and choppiness. This I never experienced once in my beta experience. I started beta testing this game in early December. The one guy that claimed he had these problems also admitted that he had inadequate RAM as required by the beta demands itself you need to have a minimum of 768 MB Ram, and he had only 512. Well there ya go. When I asked them how big the game client was, they gave a totally false file size. The game has 3 big downloads. One is the gameworld, One is the avatar and mob info I think and another is the engine is what I gathered from the filenames of the 3 files. Each one of these files is downloaded and then assembled into a total game client of over 2.5 GB in size. They claim it's only 661 MB. Think about it people before you believe all this obvious trying to smash the DnL popularity. EQ2 is 10 CDs each with 700MB of data. And DnL is less then 700MB with rich graphics, a much larger world, and tons of features incorporated? This doesn't even make sense if you think about it. Actually I'm surprised they have it in only a 2.59 GB file size.
I have given an honest description and details of the game, I have given my player name, the dates in which I played, why I like the game, why these anti-DnL people are full of crap, and I have called them on their own bluff, gave them plenty of rope and let them hang themselves as they got caught in a total lie stating the game file size is 661 MB. I assure you all that this is completely inaccurate and I can only assume is just a total guess (and a bad guess at that, for the old UO client is almost that big)
Please do not believe the anti-DnL'ers. This game will be out in April, I guarantee you. It is ready except for the final polish they are hard at work putting in everyday. You don't have to believe me as I can certainly understand that you don't want to believe all the good stuff I have stated about it. This might set you up for disappointment. But i can assure you all that I havent even scratched the surface of the qualities of this game.
Man please don't be an idiot. I am talking about the actual gameplay. Those ideas are great. I personally love everyone of them. Wish sounded great too but the gameplay was horrible. Asking for some answers about the gameplay and you are quoting what a game is promising? What game doesn't promise alot?
The great part is look up the definition of ignorance you fool. It means being uninformed. Which is what alot of people (even on there own site) are saying about their own game. Don't ever get into law or join a debate team for that matter. Unreal.
you bash a game cause of an article said it had bad gameplay,yet you call me ignorant? if you have no idea what you are talking about and believe the biased views of articles which have brought down far too many games,then you are trully a fool.. if you would spend time understanding the situation and seeing what is trully happening you would have understand what i'm talking about.
but you have absolutely no clue whether gameplay is bad or whether its going to be like this in game,Yet you keep saying it will just be like horizons,using a biased moot opinion from someone who might well not be speaking the complete truth.Please if you have no idea what you are talking about,then dont bash a game,especialy not cause of someone's article which shows 1 point of view.
i really hope the NDA gets lifted soon,in order to let people give you feedback on this... eventhen,you have to be pretty stupid to believe such articles and take their opinions for facts..
also note that the game is in early beta (as they said in the article) with few content implemented (as wotann said),so basing your opinion and idea of a game on an rant about that state of beta,is just plain redicoulous.
and yes,its what people would call ignorance.you have no idea what you are talking about,and dont know what to believe.hence,take critism AND praise with a bit of salt and base your opinion when you get the chance to do so,claiming its just another horizons now is just..farfetch,redicoulous,and yes ignorant.
Only one person is telling the truth. - I know who it is from the information given. And I'm convinced the community on this website knows it too. Liars make too many mistakes.
Originally posted by Gules_Aspen Darksoul- I'm not going to go back and quote all that stuff, you know what's been said. You missed the point- DnL isn't the same as Horizons. I'm just saying that they both make big promises. They both have rabid followers shouting "Heathen!" at anyone who doesn't smile, nod, and agree that it's the game to end all games. Horizons didn't deliver. I have no reason to believe the shoestring operation produsing DnL can, either, and every reason, from experience, to doubt it. Read the statements from the devs over at AE/Tulga/whatever it is now. They STILL claim all this stuff is in game and working, and everyone knows it's not. Developers stretch the truth. They make things look good for a reason. They have to suck people in, and raise money, somehow. Just business. I've only responded here because I hate seeing people crucified over opinions. Games are that, simply- some will like it, some won't. I have no vested interest here at all- I won't buy it no matter how good everyone says it is, because it's not looking like anything I'd want to play.
sorry for double posting ^^
i am perfectly aware that the devs wont be able to deliver everything they promised.but if attleast half makes it it will be a great game imo.
while their is nothing wrong with saying such things (they are the truth,simple as that),its is different when you start saying the game WILL endup just like horizons and that it WILL fail and that it sucks by a FACT cause of that article,which some replies in these posts made me think they are supposed to.
cant be bothered reading all over again and quoting it all,but you know what i'm talking about.. if you bash a game,atleast find debatable arguments and wait till the game is completed,dont judge or bash it when its beta built is incomplete,has many things left out of the current game (if we can believe wotann its coded but not yet implemented for some reasons),and is most of all:Subject to Change...
basicly,both fanboys hyping it way to early,and other guys bashing it should just stfu for a minute and wait till their is something to give feedback too,and base their opinions on their own findings,and not opinions of third...
Originally posted by Wotann Only one person is telling the truth. - I know who it is from the information given. And I'm convinced the community on this website knows it too. Liars make too many mistakes.
heh euhm actualy,i think noone is telling the exact truth.both are exaggerating their biased opinions and should be better shut up a bit
both are not telling the whole story i think..but thats just my suspicious ignorant mind perhaps
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after i wrote a long reply disproving a lot of things in this threads,having iexplore crashing and losing what i wrote (though i copy'd it to clipboard,but seemed to have gotten lost).then having to restarted with a smaller post still adressingthe same,posting the message and being unable to find it after it is posting (
) i decided to let it rest and not reply since apparently someone does not want me to 
anyway,no point in proving these silly fanboys to be wrong in their arguments.they take biased,moot opinions for facts..which it isnt
while the article might hold some truth,the article is not an informative article,its biased,opinions and moot.plus purposedly containing exaggerrated elements.
let the fanboys cry...anyone with a decent brain knows to not pay attention to their bashing's anyway...
Hmmm 661 MB eh? That's kinda funny. You are obviously missing more then RAM buddy. Since there is a launcher at 47 KB, not 266. The .exe file is not 2.95 MB but 431 KB. And the game files (of which there are 3 of them) are 892 MB, 780 MB and 918 MB for a total game file of 2.59 GB, not 661 MB. LMFAO. Ummm I think you might be missing some game files too, ROTF..maybe that's why everything isn't working correctly. Good grief!
I knew that your answer would be entertaining, but I alteast thought if you just made up the games size, you could guess at closer then what you did. Good try though.
lmfao. This guy is a joke and has NOT played DnL.
Darksoul
I must say i didnt quite understand your post , it must be my english, or it must be your writing.
Anyway if you are refering to me when your say that i
"Take opinions for a fact "
Than you are completely wrong , why ?
Because if i did , i wouldnt have bothered to ask for opinions in here , do you follow me ? Ah and pal , people have called me a lot of names and i might be all of 'em . but rest assured that there is something i am not
nd that is a Fanboy , be it of a game , of a political party or whatever.
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Well, Well Well.
We have two completely different stories about the beta game mechanics of Dark and Light from two people who have obviously broken the NDA and accept that... And they are supposedly willing to share so many intricate details for the sakes of our curious minds. Everything from game mechanics to the exact size of the game files differ greatly.
So here's the real question here I'm curious to poll (as entertaining as this thread has become)
Allow me to state again, I am not under the NDA. Our key was given to us because we are a website. We were given 2 accounts which to test from two different vantage points. We then sent an e-mail to the developers telling them of our intent. They then replied to that e-mail.
However, as to game size, I got my filesize directly from the beta folder. I am also Meandrine in the beta itself. I've posted the same initial letter on both forums. Any question concerning my playing this game is a very dead point, as I've provided enough proof.
Thank you, and have a good day.
Wow. We need to change the definition of 'Fanboy' in the dictionary. One word would suffice- 'Radlin'.
Calm down a little before you make yourself look bad. Check the poll and see....you have no credibility. No on eknows if YOU really played the beta. People will believe something that at least TRIES to be objective, which you clearly aren't. You sound like they could ship an old AOL CD in a Dark and Light box and you'd wet yourself over it
And well...Cain gave you his in-game ID. What do you have to say now? That he didn't play it?
This sounds more like Horizons with every post
. I could care less if it's good, if it's bad, or if it ever ships- it's sparked no interest to me whatsoever, but it's funny to see how rabid people get if everyone doesn't bow down and worship the game that happens to be flavor of the month here.
Bite me, Turbine.
There's no doubt in my mind that Cain is a objective beta tester. The game is enjoyable to test when it works. There are many crash bugs and bugs that prevent many members from even logging into their accounts.
The game is not near completion yet. Content has to be added. I have no doubt it'll be a blast when it's finished, but imo, late April doesn't seem remotely realistic, unless the devs are hiding finished parts of the game from the beta. (Could be possible, but I doubts it)
Nemo sine vitio est
This is exactly what I have been saying here and on the DnL site. People just blindly following this and most no jack about the actual gameplay. It's amazing
yes..
too bad that Dnl promises great PvP gameplay,destructable cities/fortresses/houses and a whole game with the ongoing aspect of war and conflict between the Dark and the Light.
that,and the other 90 features which set the game apart from every game out there,developped,live,or canceled...
please continue to spread ignorance about a game you obviously know nothing about..
'oh it has a big world to explore!it must be like horizons!!"
rrighht.
Ignorance.Part 2
".. but it's funny to see how rabid people get if everyone doesn't bow down and worship the game that happens to be flavor of the month here."
Im not in anyway happy when i say this but : "Sad but true"
Promises :
1) i promise that ill fly tomorrow with my magic cardboard wings
2) i promise that everyone will be objective and not biased tomorrow
3) I promise that tomorrow there wont be people in this world that blindly believe at fancy promises
Thats all about promises as long as they are not facts
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First off- I was referring to a few beta testers screaming about how great it is, and as soon as someone DARES to have a differing opinion, the legions of fans show up and start with the insults and name calling. Just like Horizons was. And when it was released, it was crap, and all the fanboys in the world couldn't change that.
Second- Take out PvP, replace 'Dark and Light' with 'Withered Aegis', and well.....same promises.
Facts: No one knows if it'll ever see the light of day. No one knows if it's going to be any good. No one knows if the client is going to crash every 5 minutes. No one knows if the server can handle the connections. No one knows if the database is going to be up to the task.
Every last one of us has seen the fan-hyped games of the past couple years- WISH, Horizons, Lineage 2, Face of Mankind, EQ2, WoW. Of that list, 2 of them are even anywhere close to delivering on the hype- and they both come from large developers with proven track records. Anyone with any experience is NOT going to take DnL, or any other game, seriously until it's out, running, and can be seen to deliver. It's called reality. Once burned, twice shy, as they say.
Bite me, Turbine.
First off- I was referring to a few beta testers screaming about how great it is, and as soon as someone DARES to have a differing opinion, the legions of fans show up and start with the insults and name calling. Just like Horizons was. And when it was released, it was crap, and all the fanboys in the world couldn't change that.
Second- Take out PvP, replace 'Dark and Light' with 'Withered Aegis', and well.....same promises.
Facts: No one knows if it'll ever see the light of day. No one knows if it's going to be any good. No one knows if the client is going to crash every 5 minutes. No one knows if the server can handle the connections. No one knows if the database is going to be up to the task.
Every last one of us has seen the fan-hyped games of the past couple years- WISH, Horizons, Lineage 2, Face of Mankind, EQ2, WoW. Of that list, 2 of them are even anywhere close to delivering on the hype- and they both come from large developers with proven track records. Anyone with any experience is NOT going to take DnL, or any other game, seriously until it's out, running, and can be seen to deliver. It's called reality. Once burned, twice shy, as they say.
heh dont get me wrong,i hate fanboys and i consider myself to not be one.if i looked like that then its just cause i have reason to defend this game from the arguments given.
i trust in the game and i follow it cause the devs convinced me they know what they where doing.IF they deliver its promised features it will be a great game,thats all i'm saying here.
i never said how dnl is the greatest game and thats its flawless,no thats silly and untrue.
but if they deliver everything they promise,or even half of it,its going to be a great game and will certainly hold my interest for a long time to come..
but seeing some people screaming its same as every other game around and that it sucks,makes me want to slap them with a book about what dnl promises and what horizon's realized.
whether they will realize everything they promise is a different discussion,which can be discussed with every game in development atm...
and no,dnl is not just horizons with pvp.if thats what you believe ,then i think you need to reread a few things about dnl,cause you seem to be misinformed.
heh,i'd like to see arguments in your opinion that dnl is the same as horizons with pvp.
please elaborate and give arguments,i'm awaiting them
if EonNachtgot wanted to be objective with this thread, there should have been positive comments as well. otherwise with the highly negative comments and the "and go" at the end it resembles trolling. if this truly was not EonNachtgot's intention then its a misunderstanding but you cant blame people for thinking this. also i again reiterate what i said in my previous post: i find the info sketchy as it has no citations, system specs, play period, dates of playing, etc.
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Thanks for the impressions Cain, I would rather know how the game is actually shaping up, rather than just be fed the info the devs release. Not saying thats a bad thing but its always good to get an inside opinion.
This is exactly what I have been saying here and on the DnL site. People just blindly following this and most no jack about the actual gameplay. It's amazing
yes..
too bad that Dnl promises great PvP gameplay,destructable cities/fortresses/houses and a whole game with the ongoing aspect of war and conflict between the Dark and the Light.
that,and the other 90 features which set the game apart from every game out there,developped,live,or canceled...
please continue to spread ignorance about a game you obviously know nothing about..
'oh it has a big world to explore!it must be like horizons!!"
rrighht.
Ignorance.Part 2
Man please don't be an idiot. I am talking about the actual gameplay. Those ideas are great. I personally love everyone of them. Wish sounded great too but the gameplay was horrible. Asking for some answers about the gameplay and you are quoting what a game is promising? What game doesn't promise alot?
The great part is look up the definition of ignorance you fool. It means being uninformed. Which is what alot of people (even on there own site) are saying about their own game. Don't ever get into law or join a debate team for that matter. Unreal.
i voted the last option. not because i believe either one of them is BSing, but because we really do just need to wait and find out ourselves. Any review of the beta is just that, a review of an incomplete game. When the game is complete we can make our decisions. I invite all the fanboys and all the trolls alike to do the same, just take a deep breath . . . and wait.
i've hyped this game my fair share and i think its just time to tell everyone to stop basing decisions on hype. Think for yourself, make your own inferences based on the facts that have been given to us by the devs, not the testers (we have all seen how some review betas before). Shutup and let people decide for themselves if they want to play this game. I am now officially sick of the hype, as well as the anti-hype.
Make of it what you will.
Man, this thread is getting interesting... Keep talking you two!
Darksoul- I'm not going to go back and quote all that stuff, you know what's been said.
You missed the point- DnL isn't the same as Horizons. I'm just saying that they both make big promises. They both have rabid followers shouting "Heathen!" at anyone who doesn't smile, nod, and agree that it's the game to end all games. Horizons didn't deliver. I have no reason to believe the shoestring operation produsing DnL can, either, and every reason, from experience, to doubt it.
Read the statements from the devs over at AE/Tulga/whatever it is now. They STILL claim all this stuff is in game and working, and everyone knows it's not. Developers stretch the truth. They make things look good for a reason. They have to suck people in, and raise money, somehow. Just business.
I've only responded here because I hate seeing people crucified over opinions. Games are that, simply- some will like it, some won't. I have no vested interest here at all- I won't buy it no matter how good everyone says it is, because it's not looking like anything I'd want to play.
Bite me, Turbine.
On the plus side, at least it seems likely all this posting by beta-testers means we might avoid a Mourning-like "expose" claiming there is no beta test
Wish Refugees Guild - Keeping the Spirit of Wish Alive in DnL
My in-game name was "Ikefaro" in the DnL beta. I put in well over 100 hours of gameplay. Honestly there were 2 times the game client crashed that I remember. You can all say that I am only a fanboi all you like, but I like the game only because I played it for so many hours. I honestly think i will miss this game more then my current girlfriend here. It simply is that good.
I said the game is ready for release now, which it is. There are some faults, yes but the anti-bias posts on this thread make the game look like its a total disaster which simply is very far from the truth. They have claimed constant crashing in testing which had to be re-tested at a later date (I can only assume they retested it later after they purchased adequate computers capable of handling the games demanding spec requirements) They claim that fighting mobs is nearly impossible, ugly with flashes of light and sliding and choppiness. This I never experienced once in my beta experience. I started beta testing this game in early December. The one guy that claimed he had these problems also admitted that he had inadequate RAM as required by the beta demands itself you need to have a minimum of 768 MB Ram, and he had only 512. Well there ya go. When I asked them how big the game client was, they gave a totally false file size. The game has 3 big downloads. One is the gameworld, One is the avatar and mob info I think and another is the engine is what I gathered from the filenames of the 3 files. Each one of these files is downloaded and then assembled into a total game client of over 2.5 GB in size. They claim it's only 661 MB. Think about it people before you believe all this obvious trying to smash the DnL popularity. EQ2 is 10 CDs each with 700MB of data. And DnL is less then 700MB with rich graphics, a much larger world, and tons of features incorporated? This doesn't even make sense if you think about it. Actually I'm surprised they have it in only a 2.59 GB file size.
I have given an honest description and details of the game, I have given my player name, the dates in which I played, why I like the game, why these anti-DnL people are full of crap, and I have called them on their own bluff, gave them plenty of rope and let them hang themselves as they got caught in a total lie stating the game file size is 661 MB. I assure you all that this is completely inaccurate and I can only assume is just a total guess (and a bad guess at that, for the old UO client is almost that big)
Please do not believe the anti-DnL'ers. This game will be out in April, I guarantee you. It is ready except for the final polish they are hard at work putting in everyday. You don't have to believe me as I can certainly understand that you don't want to believe all the good stuff I have stated about it. This might set you up for disappointment. But i can assure you all that I havent even scratched the surface of the qualities of this game.
Take care all.
Man please don't be an idiot. I am talking about the actual gameplay. Those ideas are great. I personally love everyone of them. Wish sounded great too but the gameplay was horrible. Asking for some answers about the gameplay and you are quoting what a game is promising? What game doesn't promise alot?
The great part is look up the definition of ignorance you fool. It means being uninformed. Which is what alot of people (even on there own site) are saying about their own game. Don't ever get into law or join a debate team for that matter. Unreal.
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you bash a game cause of an article said it had bad gameplay,yet you call me ignorant?
if you have no idea what you are talking about and believe the biased views of articles which have brought down far too many games,then you are trully a fool..
if you would spend time understanding the situation and seeing what is trully happening you would have understand what i'm talking about.
but you have absolutely no clue whether gameplay is bad or whether its going to be like this in game,Yet you keep saying it will just be like horizons,using a biased moot opinion from someone who might well not be speaking the complete truth.Please if you have no idea what you are talking about,then dont bash a game,especialy not cause of someone's article which shows 1 point of view.
i really hope the NDA gets lifted soon,in order to let people give you feedback on this...
eventhen,you have to be pretty stupid to believe such articles and take their opinions for facts..
also note that the game is in early beta (as they said in the article) with few content implemented (as wotann said),so basing your opinion and idea of a game on an rant about that state of beta,is just plain redicoulous.
and yes,its what people would call ignorance.you have no idea what you are talking about,and dont know what to believe.hence,take critism AND praise with a bit of salt and base your opinion when you get the chance to do so,claiming its just another horizons now is just..farfetch,redicoulous,and yes ignorant.
yet i'm the idiot heh
Only one person is telling the truth. - I know who it is from the information given. And I'm convinced the community on this website knows it too. Liars make too many mistakes.
Nemo sine vitio est
sorry for double posting ^^
i am perfectly aware that the devs wont be able to deliver everything they promised.but if attleast half makes it it will be a great game imo.
while their is nothing wrong with saying such things (they are the truth,simple as that),its is different when you start saying the game WILL endup just like horizons and that it WILL fail and that it sucks by a FACT cause of that article,which some replies in these posts made me think they are supposed to.
cant be bothered reading all over again and quoting it all,but you know what i'm talking about..
if you bash a game,atleast find debatable arguments and wait till the game is completed,dont judge or bash it when its beta built is incomplete,has many things left out of the current game (if we can believe wotann its coded but not yet implemented for some reasons),and is most of all:Subject to Change...
basicly,both fanboys hyping it way to early,and other guys bashing it should just stfu for a minute and wait till their is something to give feedback too,and base their opinions on their own findings,and not opinions of third...
heh
euhm actualy,i think noone is telling the exact truth.both are exaggerating their biased opinions and should be better shut up a bit
both are not telling the whole story i think..but thats just my suspicious ignorant mind perhaps