It amazes me that if anyone has anything negative to say about darkfall, they are labeled as either A. Carebears, or B. Trolls. Then, the fans(not just fanboys) of darkfall tell people to read a BETTER or UNBIASED review...because it gives Darkfall a good review. If the same person reviewed it and said it was bad for some very good legitimate reasons/concerns, he'd still be labeled as a troll or carebear.
Face it Darkfall fans, not everyone will like this game. Not everyone likes being interrupted when questing, killing mobs, gathering resources(by interrupted, I mean ganked). Some people do not like PvP for the very reason that they hate having to worry about people with too much time on their hands(or those who DON'T, just normal players) wanting to grief you. The PKers who kill you cause they came across you, leave the area and move on, are fine by me. Unfortunately, in a lot of PvP games, whoever has the most time on their hands, wins the battle. I'm not saying in every single situation, but MMOs are mostly designed to reward the person who spends more time with it. Not that it shouldn't, but that's frankly why a lot of people don't like competitive PvP MMOs. Time played > skill. <---- SOMETIMES, I'm not speaking for EVERY single situation.
Note: This wasn't an attack at PvPers, it was just reasons as to why people don't like PvP games. DAoC is still some of the most fun I've ever had in a MMO.
Yes I think we all understand that carebears do not like PvP. Yes I think everyone that has looked at the game knows that in darkfall you will lose. You will lose because you dont have as big of a time investment in the game as others, you will lose because you were out numbered, you will lose because you suck, you will lose because you were disconnected, you will lose because you had to leave your computer to take a piss, you will lose because you were jumped with a quarter health, you will be forced into pvp, and so will everyone else if this bothers you please exit the df forums you have lost your way.
Hit most of the nails on the head :-) I just re-activated my account in darkfall, pretty shamed that I did. Was just getting bored with not having a game to play. Within the past couple days the things that seem to bother me alot about darkfall. The sounds need alot of work, when im running around It sounds like there is about 5 people behind me. But in reality its just my feet making the sounds of 5 people behind me..not sure if that makes sense.. No matter how far under the water you are, you hear this loud swuush swuuush noise. The ai in the game is a joke, I figured I would rejoin my old clan. The only thing the entire clan has done for the past 3 days is sit at a camp with bugged mobs and work up magic skills on them...The alliance actually calls it a sin to kill the mobs that are bugged, your only suppose to work up skills on them :x I was watching tv and had my guy just chilling at the top of our keep in my little secret spot. When I saw someone come in our city on the system log, so I thought I would spy a bit on him. The guy came straight up the keep and right into my secret hiding spot and killed me... Gotta love the hacks in darkfall.. Also a kinda funny thing, I was talking to my sg on vent and I kept hearing this wierd beeping noise, I asked him what it was. He said it was his chaos chest "detector" lol I already unsubscribed and I will never resubscribe to this game. And to the people who says AV has been doing alot of work to stop the hacking, go F yourselves.
WoW...if all this is true (hacks ect.) Darkfall is totally out of the question for me.. I had thought about trying it this year year sometime but theres no way I'm going to play to be free meat for the folks using hacks.. Sorry Darkfall fans!! lol
DF is way of carebear. It may be real pvp but in no way is it hardcore. EQ was way more hardcore than DF before the last 5 or so exps just because someone didnt like the game does not mean they are carebear. they simply didnt like the game. a lot of what the guy said was true...lets face it. it was.
But for some of us it isnt necesarily bad. sorry you didnt like it op and hope you fins something more akin to your style...good luck.
Im carebear and i love DF DF is way of carebear. It may be real pvp but in no way is it hardcore. EQ was way more hardcore than DF before the last 5 or so exps just because someone didnt like the game does not mean they are carebear. they simply didnt like the game. a lot of what the guy said was true...lets face it. it was. But for some of us it isnt necesarily bad. sorry you didnt like it op and hope you fins something more akin to your style...good luck.
Read up on his post history if you want to make judgement calls on the OP. He is a well known old school Darkfall hater. Not everyone is deserving of your kindness and respect.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
I didn't read this review because this guy has been a long time Darkfall basher and its clear he hadn't played the game till now, and so he was bashing a game he hadn't even played. In fact his entire post history of 900 posts is all dedicated to bashing Darkfall, a game he hadn't even played. Can we really respect and value the opinions of such a small minded person? This was in his sig for the longest time: "There are more people discussing Darkfall than playing the useless game"
This.
The fact that he states that he thinks that the "overhead" strike with a 2h sword is a "bug" kinda gives it away as well, IMO.
Nope....I see a with intentions of stirring up trouble, and countering the overwealmingly positive threads and attention this game has recieved lately.
my favorite part is how he claims he is going to wait 6 months to play Darkfall in his posts history so the game can get good and then in his conclusion he whines about not being able to compete with a new character and whining about how you "MUST" do something in order to play Darkfall. Sounds like the perspective of someone with a small mind.
"somebody in these very forums is going to be eating their words in a few months time" - Egotrip
so true.
he also is a liar, saying that he is going to wait 6 months before getting the game and then saying he had already played the game a few posts later. Internet attention whores, I mean "trolls" are the most pathetic of individuals. Herp derp, I can say something retarded and people will correct me and call me out on it, herp derp fun!
He is pretty much the only Darkfall troll left so he had to write a book in order to make up for it. Eventually everyone will realise he has serious mental health issues and every thread will call him out on it and he will give up or just create multiple accounts and agree with himself like he usually does. I really pity him actually, must be a pretty lonely guy for doing this in his spare time.
This. The fact that he states that he thinks that the "overhead" strike with a 2h sword is a "bug" kinda gives it away as well, IMO. Nope....I see a with intentions of stirring up trouble, and countering the overwealmingly positive threads and attention this game has recieved lately.
There is a Darkfall thread on the main Mortal Online forums of which Ego posts regularly. There were a few posts within the thread saying how many positive things are going on with darkfall and the forums are reflecting as such and the opposite is true on the Mortal forums. I think that riled up a few Mortal fanboys because they all seem to be posting negative stuff here now.
Says the user who just joined the site today. Sure buddy, I've been reading this guy's hate-on posts for Darkfall for a loooooonggg time, but I'll take your word on egotrip.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
Read up on his post history if you want to make judgement calls on the OP. He is a well known old school Darkfall hater. Not everyone is deserving of your kindness and respect.
"extra mount that may take from 1-4 days "beating around the bush" in order to acquire"
For all I know it could be another honest mistake.
But just few days ago I've heard a story from guy who had his previous account banned for hacking: "Virus ate my network packets, that's why I didn't took damage while falling from high place". Such guys ruin reputation of honest hackers ... And that's why people take game review done by hacker with grain of salt.
I don't think you understand what I was saying. He is a hater of darkfall and a fan of MO. On the Mortal forums their is a darkfall thread on the main discussion forums. A few posts within the thread were talking about the positive things on the MMORPG darkfall forums in contrast to the negative number of threads all on the MMORPG Mortal forums. I think that riled up a few of the MO fanboys thus we are seeing a number of them make their way over here to post negative stuff about Darkfall. Just seems fishy to me, that's all.
Ah, that makes sense, sorry I misunderstood you before.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
OP has 79 pages of posts all dedicated to bashing Darkfall. This guy clearly has some kind of neurosis and unhealthy agenda against Darkfall. Keep in mind these posts were made before he even played Darkfall.
Here are some of his previous posts.
In response to "Darkfall seems to make you actually need some skills":
"LOOK AT MA DF GAMING SKILLZ: CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK STRAFE LEFT, STRAFE RIGHT CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK F1,F2 CLICK CLICK CLICK.......... It takes skill to play guitar, it takes skill to cook (good anyways), also to fly a plane, climb a mountain even to play chess just to name a few.For all those and many more it takes some amount of skill.
It DOESN'T take any skill though in order to play a video-game mmo or otherwise, if it did we wouldn't have anymore Free To Play and Pay to Play, we would have Free To Play and Payed To Play. ?" -egotrip
In response to customer support in DF:
"What customer support?" -egotrip
Who can respect the opinions of someone who writes rediculousness? Keep in mind this is before he even played the game.
"Darkfall Hardcore > than Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3" -egotrip
"...and since when did the fanbois ever "need to know"?
They've been going on hot air and promises for how many years now? 8 ? 6 ?
They could run on nothing until the 25th of February ! IMO that if we ever understood the mechanics that drive this people we could solve the world energy problem......imagine.....an engine that runs on nothing..." -egotrip
"I doubt if there was ever or ever will be a company that does things "same as DF"
....well at least i hope not for the sake of the internet" -egotrip
" you still found the time to come here and make a post,if you did so that means that 1) either the game isn't THAT enjoyable or 2) someone is full of hot air " -egotrip
"Well i don't think that Aventurine will have the luxury to be picky on what type of people are going to make up it's playerbase, to be completely honest i'll be suprised if it gets the audience it originally aimed for....." -egotrip
"Actually i believe that the "trolls" as you baptised them are at least more coherent and only by a little bit more consistent in their posts than any of the "fans" ...... -egotrip
I'm sorry i missed your concept (if there was one to begin with) within all the "cut the indie/amateur devs some slack" whining and the "the company doesn't owe you anything " preaching....." -egotrip
"Oblivion:The Elder Scrolls.................. despite it's age it's miles ahead ,in every aspect, of Darkfall in it's current state IMO !"
"Well they had people giving money for a download version of a game that's not playable and the only difference that i see so far is that download version is cheaper for the company " -egotrip
"Would've been easier if they just added full loot to the private server of WoW they had. In that way they would have all the fun just like in Darkfall without any bad animations/sync issues/stability/pre-orders or w/e comes up next.." -egotrip
"Wanna get your heart pumping and the adrenaline flowing? Take 30 minutes on a treadmill.......
Wanna sit around do nothing and still not get bored? Play a video game......
I don't see how exactly one can combine those 2 (adrenaline rush-playing a video game) unless that person manages to play a video game while running on a treadmill " -egotrip
"I predict that there is gonna be a big battle again in 3-6 months from now where the remnants of the fanbois will have to face a new and more powerfull breed of flame resistant trolls that will emerge from the shattered promises of their former company (Aventurine) it is during then when the last chapter of the Forum Wars shall be written in blood , but on who's blood?"
"Yeah that's according to those "logs" that Tasos mentioned back then right? The non-tangible, easy to manufacture and non acceptable as solid by anyone unless he wants to infamous "logs".The same ones that anyone can have access to as long as they just leave their jobs / family / life back and get in a plane, go down to Athens, find the offices of Aventurine and just ask for them ,right?"
"DF followers are so highly judgemental on some other game seemingly identical to the one they're playing"
"Aventurine doesn't need those topped major credit card companies. People should trust other much less known, bottom of the barrel, "niche" minor credit card companies or just send money directly to Tasos's personal account ........you can trust him"
"Does a person that wants to be only a crafter do this without fighting a single battle? Nope the game simply does not support it, a crafter must not only pick up the above mentioned combat skills in order to make himself a viable character and practise crafting in the time between pvp-siege-pk ; but on top of that he must join a clan to do so ; a solo-crafter-only character is simply not viable in a game like Darkfall."
"Yup Av placed them in charge of moderating their forums according to their rules but at the same time AV has no responsibility for their actions.
It's business as usual in AV's offices."
Theres lots more, I only went through 1/5th of the pages, thats enough time I've wasted on this waste of life.
Can we really expect this review to be honest and unbiased from someone who has 900+ posts all dedicated to bashing Darkfall? Clearly this person is mature and mentally stable and we should listen to his wise words .
I don't think you understand what I was saying. He is a hater of darkfall and a fan of MO. On the Mortal forums their is a darkfall thread on the main discussion forums. A few posts within the thread were talking about the positive things on the MMORPG darkfall forums in contrast to the negative number of threads all on the MMORPG Mortal forums. I think that riled up a few of the MO fanboys thus we are seeing a number of them make their way over here to post negative stuff about Darkfall. Just seems fishy to me, that's all.
Ah, that makes sense, sorry I misunderstood you before.
Oh he an MO fan? No wonder he came back to these forums, MO is going to be such a failure and DF referrals are selling like hotcakes. MO isn't even going to have half of what Darkfall had at release, no wonder he mad.
Melee isn't underpowered you just need to know how to use it. My SG leader has had more luck killing bowmen and casters with his 1H axe than he has with magic or archery.
"The question that sometimes drives me hazy: Am I, or the others crazy?" - Albert Einstein
OP you definitely did not do your credibility any favours with this review It's a good thing then that i didn'tdo it for that, doing reviews just to gain some acceptance over the net it's really not my thing. I just conveyed my game experiences for what they're worth to anyone reading them, no ulterior motive here i'm afraid I've never once been returned to my bindstone after logging in the wilderness. This only happens if you log off in a body of water. This is basic, everyone knows this (I knew about it before I downloaded the bloody game). In addition you admit to hacking in Darkfall? Classy. Reading that review, it's plainly obvious you went into this with your mind already made up. Just out of curiocity and since i know that you play NA have you ever tried to log out from the game let's say a couple of hours before the server resets and afterwards log back in? Go ahead and humor me try it sometime and then share this experience with the rest of us.I mean i know what i experienced and there are at least some people that share this experience with me but i'm trying to figure out if it is indeed a widespread problem or just something that happens to some unlucky ones and i just happen to be one of those. Your anger runs deep for AV, and shows no sign of wavering I just can't believe the time you're willing to invest in this. That blade cuts both ways; i don't believe that you would go this far just to defend them Anyone reading this thread that would prefer to see a more reasonable skeptic's review of Darkfall, done with a little more maturity and less emotional baggage, please check out this thread by StrixMaxima---->>> www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/262306/Darkfall-A-Critical-Review-from-a-Skeptic.html "If your foes commend your work that means you're doing something wrong" i don't know who exactly said it but it fits just nicely Not everyone is going to like the game, but this thread is garbage. Please take it with a heavy grain of salt. .....and a happy new year to you too............?????
Thanks for the post trashburnin, I was thinking about unleashing something similar. Someone needed to do it. I can't believe egotrip hasn't been perma banned considering the amount of trolling he's actually done.
At least it's mildly entertaining.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
Melee isn't underpowered you just need to know how to use it. My SG leader has had more luck killing bowmen and casters with his 1H axe than he has with magic or archery.
I never said underpowered i said least used of the 3, or at least that's what it seemed to me like
Melee isn't underpowered you just need to know how to use it. My SG leader has had more luck killing bowmen and casters with his 1H axe than he has with magic or archery.
I never said underpowered i said least used of the 3, or at least that's what it seemed to me like
I suppose you'd be right on that, I usually get hit with a spell or an arrow first, but that's usually because they're closing the distance, and if it continues, it's because their target knows he'll be torn apart in melee.
Still... I think all three are used, it's just that archery and magic are used more because people tend to be further away from each other than right in their faces.
"The question that sometimes drives me hazy: Am I, or the others crazy?" - Albert Einstein
Melee isn't underpowered you just need to know how to use it. My SG leader has had more luck killing bowmen and casters with his 1H axe than he has with magic or archery.
I never said underpowered i said least used of the 3, or at least that's what it seemed to me like
you have no credit here, time to die like the rest of the DF trolls who coudln't handle Darkfall. Time for you to find another game you haven't played to spent 900 posts bashing. Darkfall is not for you.
I don't think you understand what I was saying. He is a hater of darkfall and a fan of MO. On the Mortal forums their is a darkfall thread on the main discussion forums. A few posts within the thread were talking about the positive things on the MMORPG darkfall forums in contrast to the negative number of threads all on the MMORPG Mortal forums. I think that riled up a few of the MO fanboys thus we are seeing a number of them make their way over here to post negative stuff about Darkfall. Just seems fishy to me, that's all.
Ah, that makes sense, sorry I misunderstood you before.
Oh he an MO fan? No wonder he came back to these forums, MO is going to be such a failure and DF referrals are selling like hotcakes. MO isn't even going to have half of what Darkfall had at release, no wonder he mad.
I'm an MO fan? Boy i certainly never expected to find that out from anyone else but me....
Can you also tell me what my favorite food is? I'd like to know cuz i'm cooking it tommorow
What is it like to hate on a game for 900+ posts and then actually try it for yourself oh wise one? You are clearly a super smart and insightful person to dedicated 80 pages of post history to bashing a game you hadn't even played
That blade cuts both ways; i don't believe that you would go this far just to defend them Anyone reading this thread that would prefer to see a more reasonable skeptic's review of Darkfall, done with a little more maturity and less emotional baggage, please check out this thread by StrixMaxima---->>> www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/262306/Darkfall-A-Critical-Review-from-a-Skeptic.html "If your foes commend your work that means you're doing something wrong" i don't know who exactly said it but it fits just nicely
I would rather discuss the game then play this game with you, but writing up a paragraph to respond to an unfortunately ridiculous clown of a review doesn't take that much out of me. Your hobby is bashing a video game on an internet forum. Is there any comparison here? That's rhetorical, so relax.
Thanks for that lovely attempt at wisdom, but no thanks, I'll buy from someplace else.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
What is it like to hate on a game for 900+ posts and then actually try it for yourself oh wise one?
Well you were the one(s) that went " try it before you can speak of it " and i did.
So the question is: What's bugging you now? That i tried it and proved that i did? Or that you don't have anything left to pit against me other than verbal insults and condescending manner?
Anyone reading this thread that would prefer to see a more reasonable skeptic's review of Darkfall, done with a little more maturity and less emotional baggage
Quoted for truth.
I wonder if he actually thinks he is driving people away from Darkfall with this joke of a review filled with his obvious bias against the game and negativity.
It amazes me that if anyone has anything negative to say about darkfall, they are labeled as either A. Carebears, or B. Trolls. Then, the fans(not just fanboys) of darkfall tell people to read a BETTER or UNBIASED review...because it gives Darkfall a good review. If the same person reviewed it and said it was bad for some very good legitimate reasons/concerns, he'd still be labeled as a troll or carebear.
Face it Darkfall fans, not everyone will like this game. Not everyone likes being interrupted when questing, killing mobs, gathering resources(by interrupted, I mean ganked). Some people do not like PvP for the very reason that they hate having to worry about people with too much time on their hands(or those who DON'T, just normal players) wanting to grief you. The PKers who kill you cause they came across you, leave the area and move on, are fine by me. Unfortunately, in a lot of PvP games, whoever has the most time on their hands, wins the battle. I'm not saying in every single situation, but MMOs are mostly designed to reward the person who spends more time with it. Not that it shouldn't, but that's frankly why a lot of people don't like competitive PvP MMOs. Time played > skill. <---- SOMETIMES, I'm not speaking for EVERY single situation.
Note: This wasn't an attack at PvPers, it was just reasons as to why people don't like PvP games. DAoC is still some of the most fun I've ever had in a MMO.
Yes I think we all understand that carebears do not like PvP. Yes I think everyone that has looked at the game knows that in darkfall you will lose. You will lose because you dont have as big of a time investment in the game as others, you will lose because you were out numbered, you will lose because you suck, you will lose because you were disconnected, you will lose because you had to leave your computer to take a piss, you will lose because you were jumped with a quarter health, you will be forced into pvp, and so will everyone else if this bothers you please exit the df forums you have lost your way.
Now you think its because "carebears" hate losing?"
Newsflash, carebears lose in PvE also, doesn't mean they won't play.
Inb4 "lol u die 2 scripted AI u suk lol"
I don't think people understand the term carebear.
The reason why people don't like forced pvp, is because of the immature crowd of PvPers. I'm not saying every PKer is immature or a child, but lets face it, a certain MMO has given rise to the growing population of jerkwads in MMOs, unfortunately its mostly players who want to PvP. They find it fun to RUIN someone else's gameplay.
I used to play Shadowbane, I thought the game was FANTASTIC. Too bad it tanked very quickly, but that game is not something for carebears, but I believe the game did a very good job at handling pvp, too bad the game crashed way too much and the graphics were about 5 years out of date. I thought the game had a good crowd too. Same with UO, yeah there were your bad apples but every game has them.
Unfortunately, bad apples have come to enjoy MMOs in hordes. They now ruin what could be a fun experience for people who want to participate in the PvP, but don't want it to become a second job for them to compete.
tl;dr
The new PvP crowd is what ruins PvP or sandbox MMOs.
It's why I converted from playing MMOs for the PVP, to the PvE. Now I just tackle raid content with friends, and have fun, cause ultimately, its a game, and I play MMOs to play with friends and have fun.
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Yes I think we all understand that carebears do not like PvP. Yes I think everyone that has looked at the game knows that in darkfall you will lose. You will lose because you dont have as big of a time investment in the game as others, you will lose because you were out numbered, you will lose because you suck, you will lose because you were disconnected, you will lose because you had to leave your computer to take a piss, you will lose because you were jumped with a quarter health, you will be forced into pvp, and so will everyone else if this bothers you please exit the df forums you have lost your way.
WoW...if all this is true (hacks ect.) Darkfall is totally out of the question for me.. I had thought about trying it this year year sometime but theres no way I'm going to play to be free meat for the folks using hacks.. Sorry Darkfall fans!! lol
"I play Tera for the gameplay"
Im carebear and i love DF
DF is way of carebear. It may be real pvp but in no way is it hardcore. EQ was way more hardcore than DF before the last 5 or so exps just because someone didnt like the game does not mean they are carebear. they simply didnt like the game. a lot of what the guy said was true...lets face it. it was.
But for some of us it isnt necesarily bad. sorry you didnt like it op and hope you fins something more akin to your style...good luck.
Read up on his post history if you want to make judgement calls on the OP. He is a well known old school Darkfall hater. Not everyone is deserving of your kindness and respect.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
This.
The fact that he states that he thinks that the "overhead" strike with a 2h sword is a "bug" kinda gives it away as well, IMO.
Nope....I see a with intentions of stirring up trouble, and countering the overwealmingly positive threads and attention this game has recieved lately.
my favorite part is how he claims he is going to wait 6 months to play Darkfall in his posts history so the game can get good and then in his conclusion he whines about not being able to compete with a new character and whining about how you "MUST" do something in order to play Darkfall. Sounds like the perspective of someone with a small mind.
"somebody in these very forums is going to be eating their words in a few months time" - Egotrip
so true.
he also is a liar, saying that he is going to wait 6 months before getting the game and then saying he had already played the game a few posts later. Internet attention whores, I mean "trolls" are the most pathetic of individuals. Herp derp, I can say something retarded and people will correct me and call me out on it, herp derp fun!
He is pretty much the only Darkfall troll left so he had to write a book in order to make up for it. Eventually everyone will realise he has serious mental health issues and every thread will call him out on it and he will give up or just create multiple accounts and agree with himself like he usually does. I really pity him actually, must be a pretty lonely guy for doing this in his spare time.
There is a Darkfall thread on the main Mortal Online forums of which Ego posts regularly. There were a few posts within the thread saying how many positive things are going on with darkfall and the forums are reflecting as such and the opposite is true on the Mortal forums. I think that riled up a few Mortal fanboys because they all seem to be posting negative stuff here now.
Says the user who just joined the site today. Sure buddy, I've been reading this guy's hate-on posts for Darkfall for a loooooonggg time, but I'll take your word on egotrip.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
"extra mount that may take from 1-4 days "beating around the bush" in order to acquire"
For all I know it could be another honest mistake.
But just few days ago I've heard a story from guy who had his previous account banned for hacking: "Virus ate my network packets, that's why I didn't took damage while falling from high place". Such guys ruin reputation of honest hackers ... And that's why people take game review done by hacker with grain of salt.
Ah, that makes sense, sorry I misunderstood you before.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
OP has 79 pages of posts all dedicated to bashing Darkfall. This guy clearly has some kind of neurosis and unhealthy agenda against Darkfall. Keep in mind these posts were made before he even played Darkfall.
Here are some of his previous posts.
In response to "Darkfall seems to make you actually need some skills":
"LOOK AT MA DF GAMING SKILLZ: CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK STRAFE LEFT, STRAFE RIGHT CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK F1,F2 CLICK CLICK CLICK.......... It takes skill to play guitar, it takes skill to cook (good anyways), also to fly a plane, climb a mountain even to play chess just to name a few.For all those and many more it takes some amount of skill.
It DOESN'T take any skill though in order to play a video-game mmo or otherwise, if it did we wouldn't have anymore Free To Play and Pay to Play, we would have Free To Play and Payed To Play. ?" -egotrip
In response to customer support in DF:
"What customer support?" -egotrip
Who can respect the opinions of someone who writes rediculousness? Keep in mind this is before he even played the game.
"Darkfall Hardcore > than Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3" -egotrip
"...and since when did the fanbois ever "need to know"?
They've been going on hot air and promises for how many years now? 8 ? 6 ?
They could run on nothing until the 25th of February ! IMO that if we ever understood the mechanics that drive this people we could solve the world energy problem......imagine.....an engine that runs on nothing..." -egotrip
"I doubt if there was ever or ever will be a company that does things "same as DF"
....well at least i hope not for the sake of the internet" -egotrip
" you still found the time to come here and make a post,if you did so that means that 1) either the game isn't THAT enjoyable or 2) someone is full of hot air " -egotrip
"Well i don't think that Aventurine will have the luxury to be picky on what type of people are going to make up it's playerbase, to be completely honest i'll be suprised if it gets the audience it originally aimed for....." -egotrip
"Actually i believe that the "trolls" as you baptised them are at least more coherent and only by a little bit more consistent in their posts than any of the "fans" ...... -egotrip
I'm sorry i missed your concept (if there was one to begin with) within all the "cut the indie/amateur devs some slack" whining and the "the company doesn't owe you anything " preaching....." -egotrip
"Oblivion:The Elder Scrolls.................. despite it's age it's miles ahead ,in every aspect, of Darkfall in it's current state IMO !"
"Well they had people giving money for a download version of a game that's not playable and the only difference that i see so far is that download version is cheaper for the company " -egotrip
"Would've been easier if they just added full loot to the private server of WoW they had. In that way they would have all the fun just like in Darkfall without any bad animations/sync issues/stability/pre-orders or w/e comes up next.." -egotrip
"Wanna get your heart pumping and the adrenaline flowing? Take 30 minutes on a treadmill.......
Wanna sit around do nothing and still not get bored? Play a video game......
I don't see how exactly one can combine those 2 (adrenaline rush-playing a video game) unless that person manages to play a video game while running on a treadmill " -egotrip
"I predict that there is gonna be a big battle again in 3-6 months from now where the remnants of the fanbois will have to face a new and more powerfull breed of flame resistant trolls that will emerge from the shattered promises of their former company (Aventurine) it is during then when the last chapter of the Forum Wars shall be written in blood , but on who's blood?"
"Yeah that's according to those "logs" that Tasos mentioned back then right? The non-tangible, easy to manufacture and non acceptable as solid by anyone unless he wants to infamous "logs".The same ones that anyone can have access to as long as they just leave their jobs / family / life back and get in a plane, go down to Athens, find the offices of Aventurine and just ask for them ,right?"
"DF followers are so highly judgemental on some other game seemingly identical to the one they're playing"
"Aventurine doesn't need those topped major credit card companies. People should trust other much less known, bottom of the barrel, "niche" minor credit card companies or just send money directly to Tasos's personal account ........you can trust him"
"Does a person that wants to be only a crafter do this without fighting a single battle? Nope the game simply does not support it, a crafter must not only pick up the above mentioned combat skills in order to make himself a viable character and practise crafting in the time between pvp-siege-pk ; but on top of that he must join a clan to do so ; a solo-crafter-only character is simply not viable in a game like Darkfall."
"Yup Av placed them in charge of moderating their forums according to their rules but at the same time AV has no responsibility for their actions.
It's business as usual in AV's offices."
Theres lots more, I only went through 1/5th of the pages, thats enough time I've wasted on this waste of life.
Can we really expect this review to be honest and unbiased from someone who has 900+ posts all dedicated to bashing Darkfall? Clearly this person is mature and mentally stable and we should listen to his wise words .
Ah, that makes sense, sorry I misunderstood you before.
Oh he an MO fan? No wonder he came back to these forums, MO is going to be such a failure and DF referrals are selling like hotcakes. MO isn't even going to have half of what Darkfall had at release, no wonder he mad.
Melee isn't underpowered you just need to know how to use it. My SG leader has had more luck killing bowmen and casters with his 1H axe than he has with magic or archery.
"The question that sometimes drives me hazy: Am I, or the others crazy?" - Albert Einstein
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Thanks for the post trashburnin, I was thinking about unleashing something similar. Someone needed to do it. I can't believe egotrip hasn't been perma banned considering the amount of trolling he's actually done.
At least it's mildly entertaining.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
Its funny how he emmdiatly jumps on his alt accounts to agree with himself after writing that horrible review full of inaccuracies.
I give him 2/10.
I never said underpowered i said least used of the 3, or at least that's what it seemed to me like
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I never said underpowered i said least used of the 3, or at least that's what it seemed to me like
I suppose you'd be right on that, I usually get hit with a spell or an arrow first, but that's usually because they're closing the distance, and if it continues, it's because their target knows he'll be torn apart in melee.
Still... I think all three are used, it's just that archery and magic are used more because people tend to be further away from each other than right in their faces.
"The question that sometimes drives me hazy: Am I, or the others crazy?" - Albert Einstein
I never said underpowered i said least used of the 3, or at least that's what it seemed to me like
you have no credit here, time to die like the rest of the DF trolls who coudln't handle Darkfall. Time for you to find another game you haven't played to spent 900 posts bashing. Darkfall is not for you.
Ah, that makes sense, sorry I misunderstood you before.
Oh he an MO fan? No wonder he came back to these forums, MO is going to be such a failure and DF referrals are selling like hotcakes. MO isn't even going to have half of what Darkfall had at release, no wonder he mad.
I'm an MO fan? Boy i certainly never expected to find that out from anyone else but me....
Can you also tell me what my favorite food is? I'd like to know cuz i'm cooking it tommorow
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What is it like to hate on a game for 900+ posts and then actually try it for yourself oh wise one? You are clearly a super smart and insightful person to dedicated 80 pages of post history to bashing a game you hadn't even played
I would rather discuss the game then play this game with you, but writing up a paragraph to respond to an unfortunately ridiculous clown of a review doesn't take that much out of me. Your hobby is bashing a video game on an internet forum. Is there any comparison here? That's rhetorical, so relax.
Thanks for that lovely attempt at wisdom, but no thanks, I'll buy from someplace else.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
Well you were the one(s) that went " try it before you can speak of it " and i did.
So the question is: What's bugging you now? That i tried it and proved that i did? Or that you don't have anything left to pit against me other than verbal insults and condescending manner?
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Quoted for truth.
I wonder if he actually thinks he is driving people away from Darkfall with this joke of a review filled with his obvious bias against the game and negativity.
Good review. It was a good read and very entertaining.
Yes I think we all understand that carebears do not like PvP. Yes I think everyone that has looked at the game knows that in darkfall you will lose. You will lose because you dont have as big of a time investment in the game as others, you will lose because you were out numbered, you will lose because you suck, you will lose because you were disconnected, you will lose because you had to leave your computer to take a piss, you will lose because you were jumped with a quarter health, you will be forced into pvp, and so will everyone else if this bothers you please exit the df forums you have lost your way.
Now you think its because "carebears" hate losing?"
Newsflash, carebears lose in PvE also, doesn't mean they won't play.
Inb4 "lol u die 2 scripted AI u suk lol"
I don't think people understand the term carebear.
The reason why people don't like forced pvp, is because of the immature crowd of PvPers. I'm not saying every PKer is immature or a child, but lets face it, a certain MMO has given rise to the growing population of jerkwads in MMOs, unfortunately its mostly players who want to PvP. They find it fun to RUIN someone else's gameplay.
I used to play Shadowbane, I thought the game was FANTASTIC. Too bad it tanked very quickly, but that game is not something for carebears, but I believe the game did a very good job at handling pvp, too bad the game crashed way too much and the graphics were about 5 years out of date. I thought the game had a good crowd too. Same with UO, yeah there were your bad apples but every game has them.
Unfortunately, bad apples have come to enjoy MMOs in hordes. They now ruin what could be a fun experience for people who want to participate in the PvP, but don't want it to become a second job for them to compete.
tl;dr
The new PvP crowd is what ruins PvP or sandbox MMOs.
It's why I converted from playing MMOs for the PVP, to the PvE. Now I just tackle raid content with friends, and have fun, cause ultimately, its a game, and I play MMOs to play with friends and have fun.