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My bad experience with CCP/EVE.
DavichGee
Member Posts: 7
Av played EVE online for well over 2 years now and what i always seem to find that makes me want to quit the game is not EVE online but CCP for implementing the most rediculous and stupid 'improvements & tweaks'.
Great example just the other day, I have lived in a wormhole for over 10 months now and me and a few friends had decided to make our own corperation an move to a higher level wormhole. We had a huge setup in our old corp name so we first set out with a small pos to find our new home, once we had found the c5 we wanted we spent 2 weeks shipping everything out to Hisec to ship it all back into our new wormhole. Because we had the small pos up in our old corp I had to keep my roles active so I could dismantle the old pos we shipped everything in and got the small pos down so all i needed to do was drop roles and join new corperation this takes 24hrs.
From the small pos i had jus dismantled i had some of my ships that no one else could fly getting them out from the wormhole was near impossible as we only get exit to k-space lowsec/hisec every few days and because I still had my roles to drop i could not join new corp and put my ships in a ship maintainence array as non corp members cant use one so the only option i had to protecting my ships is to leave them in the forcefield till my roles could drop and i cud join the new corp. so thinking well great days work done am off to bed.
I woke up next day thinking great got everything done last night only thing to do now is leave old corp in bout 4 hrs and join new corp. oh no ccp had other plans. seemingly after every downtime because there jus to lazy to sort out the password database they have made it so all pos's reset there password and spit out every ship in the forcefield. which actually means even if i could get my roles dropped in 24hrs in 23hrs all my ships would b spat out anyway leaving it impossible to keep ur ships safe in a wormhole unless u are a member of the corperation which i wud of been 1 hr longer than this rediculous stupid and irresponsible act.
when actually reported to ccp as I had never heard of this and lost over 90% of my ships which after tryin to replace 2 of the 7 ships lost has left me with absolutely nothing. CCP dont get back to me for nearly 2 weeks and when they do they jus stick the middle finger up at you and say oh thats meant to happen. My question is why would they plan to do something so evil its hard enough living out of a pos everyday caus they wont give wormhole space sov so can build stations for them to kick all ur ships out and laugh about it i think is an absolute disgrace. If i got ganked or the password on the pos had been changed by a spy so all my ships had been kicked out I would of been pissed, but I would of just accepted it but the the actual developers of the game to deliberately penalise you for living in a pos and basicly playing god with your well earned possessions that took months to get is jus wrong.
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You're angry because a Hardcore PvP game kicked your face in?
Happens dude...
"The question that sometimes drives me hazy: Am I, or the others crazy?" - Albert Einstein
Not even close if it had to do with pvp i would of been fine with it but to log on the next day to find all ur ships gone caus ccp think its funny to reset pos passwords without telling anyone that piss's me off
Ticket then?
"The question that sometimes drives me hazy: Am I, or the others crazy?" - Albert Einstein
I've played off (currently off) and on since beta. Small corp, have enough of everything to consider the game "won" for my objectives.
That said, CCP from day 2, has frequently injected poorly thought out fundemental changes with unintended consequences. You are screwed. Forget it and either work through it or find another game. CCP may or may not give a crap about your problem, but in every case where they destroyed our company there was no recourse nor support.
I admire CCP as a business for surviving, but the game has not fulfilled my expectations.
Anyway, adapt or perish.
Good Hunting.
So, you had an unexpected feature happen to you and you lost your ships.
Oh well, next time you won't.
Now I'm just trying to work out why CCP is trying to make suck ballz....Are we talking about godstoppers or some kind on ball gag?
I had tears, very funny. And about the original post, am I the only one that sees the irony in "jus to lazy"?!
For whatever reason, CCP doesn't want non corp members to enjoy shield protection more than 23 hours and you ran afoul of that decision.
As mentioned, CCP won't compensate you when something is working as intended even if you weren't aware of the mechanic. They aren't thumbing their nose at you so much as enforcing the rules, and in wormholes the rules are pretty harsh.
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hate to say this but appears as it is the ops own fault having all 7 ships still in a pos and not moving all to a station and keeping a shuttle at pos. You were stupid and just trying to blame ccp because of your own silly mistake seems ludicrous.
bobm111
well if u ever lived in a class 5 wormhole u would no gettin an exit to hisec is pretty rare we can go from 2-6 days without an exit so moving them to hisec wud of probably taking a week more jus to move 7 ships its pretty pathetic that ccp would do something like that yeah maybe for 0.0 sov space but in a wormhole where gettin out isnt easy at all doesnt make any sense what so ever am blaming ccp cause it was them that implemented it and it is sad that it is hard enough to keep ships alive and safe without the developers tryin to take them off u aswell
If EVE was a level based game wormholes are the highest teir of PVE content there is atm - and your expecting CCP to just allow them to be easily farmable by just allowing anyone to safely hop in and out of them all the time?
Risk vs Reward my friend, and you just got bitchslaped by it, they are unstable for a reason, 0.0 is harsh for a reason, you want to milk the wormholes for everything they've got? Don't expect anyone to be playing nice.
Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!
man av lived here 10 months i no they aint easy!!!! I like it that way, but still for ccp to kick out ur ships from a pos i think is pathetic in ny state
If i had got ganked or some twat had changed the password on the shield i would of accepted no problem but no it is ccp having a laugh and robbing peeps, that aint fair play
no one better than me no's that eve aint fair but for the developers to b takin shit from u thats wrong
This thread should be on the EvE forum, not the RP one.
Something new has come to my attention seemingly its not just at DT that kicks out your ship!!!! A friend of mine had a dread sitting in the Pos shield had been there for hours as soon as he logged into EVE it got spat out 650km from the pos. When petitioning it CCP says oh thats meant to happen tbh i jus think that is very poor game design.
I read once that CCP divide there work force in half 50% deal with bugs and sorting problems where the other 50% deal with new and up and coming stuff to be released. tbh i think thats a bad way to do things they shud have 80% at least tryin to work out the bugs and problems and 20% looking at the future of EVE, at least then there would b less bugs.
Oh yeah but thats right as CCP will tell you theres no bugs in EVE.....
Wrong. You can find a high sec exit *every single day* if you scan for it and know how to close wormholes. Any delay in getting your ships out is your fault due to your laziness.
An example of how it should be done...when I was ready to quit my corp and move out of our c5 wh, I scanned out an exit and moved out over 20 ships in a 10 hour period, and then I dropped roles and quit corp, after I was living in high sec.
The game mechanic you are complaining about was working as intended. The burden is on you to learn of the mechnics before you 'run afoul' of them.
You agreed to the rules when you signed up to play. Complaining that they aren't fair is silly. It would make sense for you to complain that the mechanic be changed for the future, but as concerning your situation, it's your own fault you didn't know the rules and mechanics that you agreed to.
This is no different than some kid shooting a ship in hich sec and being concordokenned and then saying, "it nsnt fare, i want my ships back, fuk ccp for givzng me the finger." Wrong. It was your fault, plain and simple. It is very 'fair play.'
Ah shit, I necro'ed. Whoopsies.
do this ticket them till they correct their mistake!
eve is way more EPIC then i ever thot lol.its an insanelly harsh system.no wonder some part of the star chart are treaded very carefully by player lol.
one thing is sure if it takes 12 hour to move ship and op started a 6 pm there is no way he can finish the job on the same day
i have to agree,this sounded like a big move he should have made sure it was safe to do their move!
Give me "Player's Fault" for $1000 Alex.
I am telling the truth. What do you think I'm lying about? I can back of everything I said with explanation, so please just let me know what you think I'm lying about or didn't understand. I'll be happy to explain any of these game mechanics to you.
Your situation was completely avoidable, but you didn't avoid it. That is your fault.
I'm not in any way affiliated with CCP.
It's not that he couldn't have done it on the same day. He could have, he just didn't. I did it just fine. It's no one's fault but his own. If I were him, claiming to have lived in a wh for a year, I would be very embarrassed.
So someone disagrees with you and you start insulting them.
Strange your actually able to play EVE as your level of english comprehension and use of the english language seems to be limited somehow, I'm hoping your a non native speaker and if you are congratulations on learning another language which I can't do!
You mucked up, accept it and move on.
EVE is not an easy game and its good that it isn't. It has mechanics that aren't fully explained or accepted by us players, but they are generally there for a reason. If you've bugged it and they've said working as intended, then it is. CCP are very good with their players as shown by their growth and retention, of course there are the odd bump but things happen.
Now for a game that refunds peoples own screw ups, play wow, they restore peoples characters are they delete them and refund peoples items when they destroy them. CCP is not like that for good reason, it would set a precident which means they would have to do it for everyone in many situations (Eg being kicked out of a corp for one).
In other words you say:
There is a well working and reasonable game mechanics you did not know anything about and because of your ignorance you suffered a loss.
I feel for your loss but there is hardly anyone else but you to be responsible and eventualy be blamed on.
Gutted.
There are similar things which are of enourmous irritation.
They have put an option in the game that alows you to just destroy your own ship at the click of a button... and just so that your aware they put this command on a drop down menu NEXT to the most frequently used command in the game 'activate ship'
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There is a warning prompt before you enter a 'low-sec' system because it means that players can kill you, but they DONT put this warning prompt before entering a system where the NPC militia that patrols the gate on the other side will attack and destroy you instantly.
Yes I have lost hundreds of millions on these and other such odd game mechanics. I lost 500m from the 'free-form contract' scam... but in their defence CCP have now removed this option.
I still love Eve, even if sometimes, Eve hates me! =[