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SyFy Channel and Star Trek Online
Ihmotepp
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http://www.syfy.com/startrekonline/
Pre-order STO from SyFy channel (they changed it from the Sci Fi channel) and you get 500 cryptic points.
Says you can use Cryptic points to purchase items, and unlock bonuses.
Is that like RMT? Can you buy Cryptic points with rl currency? Or is that something earned in game?
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Cryptic bucks are bought with real life money, so yeah...RMT.
Cryptic Points are cash shop money usable in any Cryptic game.
So far, from what I have read, Cryptic points will buy you different uniforms, emotes. character slots, and basically cosmetic stuff for now. It does cause irl money. 500 points = about $5.00 from what I have read as well.
Not sure what their plans are for this, but I can only hope that it isn't the same as Champions Online.
What a bummer. Cryptic points in Star Trek? They didn't even have money in Star Trek, not even credits. It seems very cheesy.
They didn't pay 15 bucks a month to live too lol.
Cryptic points are pretty much like how f2p games work with item malls, you spend 5 bucks to get points which you can then spend on whichever item you want. Also i believe another distributor already provides the 500 points plus another item from pre order so it isnt a good deal.
Another cash shop game. Its an epidemic
Dang I really cant see how it can turn out well.
The cash shop is purely cosmetic so it doesn't affect anyone.......
The cash shop is purely cosmetic so it doesn't affect anyone.......
Sure it does. In the old day of MMOs (and other video games) you'd earn cosmetic stuff through putting in time to the game and accomplishing things. Now not only can you buy those things, you HAVE to buy those if you want them. You can't even earn such tiny and simple things in game anymore, it's ridiculous.
The cash shop is purely cosmetic so it doesn't affect anyone.......
Sure it does. In the old day of MMOs (and other video games) you'd earn cosmetic stuff through putting in time to the game and accomplishing things. Now not only can you buy those things, you HAVE to buy those if you want them. You can't even earn such tiny and simple things in game anymore, it's ridiculous.
I don't recall cosmetic stuff in the older MMO,s? Since when you tlak " Old days " I think Everquest, I never recalled cosmetic stuff at all,the only games I recall having cosmetic stuff was, LOTRO,COH/COV ,CO and now STO has'nt been that many, unless I missed some.
For the record, you don't HAVE to buy stuff in the item shop, no one is forcing you to do that, sometimes people want extra stuff for the game and are willing to pay for it " Like myself " have no problems with it, as long as they don't sell things that could change the way PvP is and or game play, but if it's just for cosmetics then so be it.
The cash shop is purely cosmetic so it doesn't affect anyone.......
Sure it does. In the old day of MMOs (and other video games) you'd earn cosmetic stuff through putting in time to the game and accomplishing things. Now not only can you buy those things, you HAVE to buy those if you want them. You can't even earn such tiny and simple things in game anymore, it's ridiculous.
I don't recall cosmetic stuff in the older MMO,s? Since when you tlak " Old days " I think Everquest, I never recalled cosmetic stuff at all,the only games I recall having cosmetic stuff was, LOTRO,COH/COV ,CO and now STO has'nt been that many, unless I missed some.
For the record, you don't HAVE to buy stuff in the item shop, no one is forcing you to do that, sometimes people want extra stuff for the game and are willing to pay for it " Like myself " have no problems with it, as long as they don't sell things that could change the way PvP is and or game play, but if it's just for cosmetics then so be it.
Play some Asheron's Call, plenty of cosmetic stuff and vanity pets all for free. So perhaps in your limited MMO experience you don't remember cosmetic things but some games had lots some had a few and some games had none. But it was always part of the game.
In AC for example there are a good number of vanity pets (and pack dolls, they don't follow you around like pets but they can be placed in your house and are purely for the fun of having it, they serve no purpose). They all come from quests, events, etc. It's part of the game, not some lame excuse to charge more money.
You have your standards which is to limit it at cosmetic stuff. That's fine. There are those of us who have our own standards too, mine happens to be nothing for sale in game. I draw the line at a paid server move, and that's as far as a game can go before I'll stop playing. So no paid cosmetics in a game I play.
I find it fun in AC to collect titles, pack dolls, pets, etc. It's part of the adventure. I will always prefer a game that keeps it in as part of the actual game then to one that has you go to a website pay money and it shows up in your inventory.
AO also had alot of cosmetic stuff.
Here's how it comes into play for me.
I pay 14.95, then I forget about money for the month. I'm playing a game, on another world.
But, then I see Captain Quirk with a shiny uniform on.
I know there's only one way he got that uniform. Cryptic points. That's right, i'm playing Star Trek. With Cryptic points. '
What the hell, might as well have the food dispenser give me a coke, and the green dancing girls are from the planet McDonalds. I think it's just cheesy to ad Cryptic points to a Star Trek game.
Like making it take months of farm to respec a character or you have the option of buying it via the item mall? One of the worst aspects of the game is that if you wound up with a gimp build (95% of the combinations possible) you'd have to farm an absurd amount of gold to respec back or you can pay some absurd price on the item mall. If you mess up again... well you'd have to do the same thing again.
I don't trust Cryptic and their "cosmetic only" item malls.
Sub fees should pay for the all the content available on item malls. It's pure greed doing it otherwise. I can understand F2P games doing it (and I applaud ones that keep it mostly cosmetic only) because they need some sort of revenue stream, but it's downright slimy that sub based games profit so much off this sort of thing. I really hope customers start speaking with their money and not make this norm.
I can understand paying for server transfers and possibly even things like changing your character's appearance and race, but why can't the cosmetic items, vanity pets, etc. just be released with the game?
What a bummer. Cryptic points in Star Trek? They didn't even have money in Star Trek, not even credits. It seems very cheesy.
Welcome to Turbo Capitalism.
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Meridian 59 had cosmetic stuff. Hard to get much older then that and still have actual graphics.
Like making it take months of farm to respec a character or you have the option of buying it via the item mall? One of the worst aspects of the game is that if you wound up with a gimp build (95% of the combinations possible) you'd have to farm an absurd amount of gold to respec back or you can pay some absurd price on the item mall. If you mess up again... well you'd have to do the same thing again.
I don't trust Cryptic and their "cosmetic only" item malls.
Sub fees should pay for the all the content available on item malls. It's pure greed doing it otherwise. I can understand F2P games doing it (and I applaud ones that keep it mostly cosmetic only) because they need some sort of revenue stream, but it's downright slimy that sub based games profit so much off this sort of thing. I really hope customers start speaking with their money and not make this norm.
I can understand paying for server transfers and possibly even things like changing your character's appearance and race, but why can't the cosmetic items, vanity pets, etc. just be released with the game?
I don't mind fees for out of game stuff, like a server transfer.
The only comment I have to make here is that I have hated Scifi channel ever since they changed their name to Syfy.
EQ1-AC1-DAOC-FFXI-L2-EQ2-WoW-DDO-GW-LoTR-VG-WAR-GW2-ESO
The cash shop is purely cosmetic so it doesn't affect anyone.......
Sure it does. In the old day of MMOs (and other video games) you'd earn cosmetic stuff through putting in time to the game and accomplishing things. Now not only can you buy those things, you HAVE to buy those if you want them. You can't even earn such tiny and simple things in game anymore, it's ridiculous.
I don't recall cosmetic stuff in the older MMO,s? Since when you tlak " Old days " I think Everquest, I never recalled cosmetic stuff at all,the only games I recall having cosmetic stuff was, LOTRO,COH/COV ,CO and now STO has'nt been that many, unless I missed some.
For the record, you don't HAVE to buy stuff in the item shop, no one is forcing you to do that, sometimes people want extra stuff for the game and are willing to pay for it " Like myself " have no problems with it, as long as they don't sell things that could change the way PvP is and or game play, but if it's just for cosmetics then so be it.
Most of the Tailoring skill in UO produced only cosmetically useful things. Then there were dye tubs and so on.
Cosmetics do add to gameplay. Even in WoW its not unusual to see max levels that roleplay wearing way lower level gear purely for the cosmetics.
I remember in the SWG early days people used to hit the bazaar for clothes to wear at a cantina, purely for social and cosmetic reasons.
Point being, whether an intended function of gameplay (old UO), or something adapted by the players themselves (WoW roleplayers), such "harmless" cosmetics are more than optional bonuses to a lot of people. Those cosmetics can be higher in importance than a lot of other gameplay elements that stand to be either in-game and competitive, or out of game and trivialized by belonging to RMT.
Three words: Black. Dye. Tub.
The cash shop is purely cosmetic so it doesn't affect anyone.......
Sure it does. In the old day of MMOs (and other video games) you'd earn cosmetic stuff through putting in time to the game and accomplishing things. Now not only can you buy those things, you HAVE to buy those if you want them. You can't even earn such tiny and simple things in game anymore, it's ridiculous.
I don't recall cosmetic stuff in the older MMO,s? Since when you tlak " Old days " I think Everquest, I never recalled cosmetic stuff at all,the only games I recall having cosmetic stuff was, LOTRO,COH/COV ,CO and now STO has'nt been that many, unless I missed some.
For the record, you don't HAVE to buy stuff in the item shop, no one is forcing you to do that, sometimes people want extra stuff for the game and are willing to pay for it " Like myself " have no problems with it, as long as they don't sell things that could change the way PvP is and or game play, but if it's just for cosmetics then so be it.
Play some Asheron's Call, plenty of cosmetic stuff and vanity pets all for free. So perhaps in your limited MMO experience you don't remember cosmetic things but some games had lots some had a few and some games had none. But it was always part of the game.
In AC for example there are a good number of vanity pets (and pack dolls, they don't follow you around like pets but they can be placed in your house and are purely for the fun of having it, they serve no purpose). They all come from quests, events, etc. It's part of the game, not some lame excuse to charge more money.
You have your standards which is to limit it at cosmetic stuff. That's fine. There are those of us who have our own standards too, mine happens to be nothing for sale in game. I draw the line at a paid server move, and that's as far as a game can go before I'll stop playing. So no paid cosmetics in a game I play.
I find it fun in AC to collect titles, pack dolls, pets, etc. It's part of the adventure. I will always prefer a game that keeps it in as part of the actual game then to one that has you go to a website pay money and it shows up in your inventory.
Fully agree what is said here, I don't mind if a game has some form of RMT in but make those items also availeble for those who simply want to get these things while actually playing from within the game.
SWG is another example of allot of fluff you could get by either loot/crafting/rewards by simply playing the game with just a sub. Talking pre-cu here, as I know the cards seem to provide a new way of RMT into SWG. (unfortunaly)
And OH wasn't even aware STO had RMT in it. But then again STO simply didn't suite me and my playstyle, it's a shame as me being a Star Trek fan and a MMORPG fan at the same time. But hey I already knew it wouldn't become my type of MMORPG due to knowing what Cryptics take on MMO's is, which is different then how I would like them. No worries as not every game is made to be liked by everyone