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Sockets 1366 or 1156??
So me and a buddy were having a convo about both of these. His idea was that 1366 was in it for the long haul and future expansions plus that xfire/sli really pull through on MOBO's and CPU's of this socket. Personally I think BOTH are way ahead of what we need right now. They're both technologies that will have yet to see any apps and games that will even come close to bottle-necking their performances. Hardcore extremists will obviously go the 1366 route while other consumers looking to save and still break into the new and updated hardware scene will go 1156. Currently I am slowly ordering parts as I can afford them. And so far I have the Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz Quad paired with a Foxconn Inferno Katana GTI LGA 1156 MOBO and x2 XFX 5750 XXX Edition. The only thing I really do on my PC is play MMO's and browse the web. Of course I want the ability to play FPS's on max settings and watch 1080p movies as well. And maybe even do some video editing. I just feel the the 1366 procs and MOBO's are way overpriced and for half of that you can just go 1156. There are only a few procs available for 1366 compared to the 10 to 11 available for the 1156. And supposedly the sextuple i9's will be exclusively for the 1366 but I really don't forsee any real use of something like that for a LONG time. So I figured I would just as well save some cash and go with my chosen route. Hell. I could have even gone i3 or i5 and still had a great performance gap over my old yet current 775 Smithfield Pentium D 2.8GHz.. In any case, all I really wanna do is just be able to run TERA, FFXIV and SWTOR at max settings with no lag and any other MMO's to come out for the next few years. So what's everyone else's take on this?
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I couldn't read the whole thing because it's just horrible to look at but taking the jist. Go with whatever your budget can afford and whatever you honestly think is better. Do your homework on google.com.
To tell you the truth I am surprised Intel decided to use Sockets 1366 and Sockets 1156 for Arrandale and Clarkdale processors. They could effectively remove the North and South bridge from the motherboard putting them both on CPU. The sockets should have a future, althought I am not sure of Socket 1366 beyond Sandy Bridge released in 2011. Intels are definetly the more powerful processor right now. However, you are left with the dilemma of if its too much power for the cost. Where as ATI is the more robust choice for a GPU, they also supplied the lower end budgets as well with the more robust choice in every price category.
Right now AMDs lineup is the better buy for price all the way up to its top of the range, which isn't really stomping the competition by comparison. Price could be Intel's bane right now. However, the only ones who seem to care are budget gamers and super computer assemblers. From market share Intel has the market right now.
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I couldn't read the whole thing because it's just horrible to look at but taking the jist. Go with whatever your budget can afford and whatever you honestly think is better. Do your homework on google.com.
You know you love my sexy text. Anyways I know the pros and cons of both. I'm just torn because I wanted the i7 now but deep down I know that ANYTHING compared to my old Pentium D 820 is a hell of a lot better. And that I lag so bad and my CPU usage at times constantly stays at 100%. I mean if I wanted to I could have just gone with a nice Gigabyte 1156 board for only $89 and the i5 3.06GHz for a measly $144 and just keep my HIS RadeonHD 2600xt ICEQ Turbo 512MB for now and maybe the upgrade will open up the card a little bit more. It has 2200MHz effective clock but it just seems like something has always been holding it back. It may be old but it should still run things a lot smoother then what they have been. Anyhoo. I'm just interested in other peoples opinions on what they think is better between the two sockets. And if any AMD fans want to throw in their input then by all means.
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True. As I right now I see a lot more support for the 1156. There are about 60-80% more MOBO's and CPU's available for 1156 then there are for the 1366. I see a long lasting future for the 1156. And I don't really see why they wouldn't be able to utilize the i9's on the 1156 layout.
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The way I see it, is it seems if you don't upgrade often you still want a decent patch of choice.
p55/57 boards are limited if you want to go crossfire or Sli because of the bandwidth of the lanes.
For that very reason I went X58. I am in it for the performance. I believe Intels recent figure put the 1366 as only 1 % of sold units. Socket LGA 1156, the new Lynnfield and Clarksfield socket, is responsible for 18 percent of all Intel shipments and its market share is supposed to grown to 44 percent in Q4 2010.
I think that is very much price telling as you pointed out.
Saying that there X58 boards (some) have come in price quite a bit and a I7 920 usually sells same price as the 860, so then it is left with the board itself.
Didn't Foxconn go out of the mobo business?
Foxconn is still in it. I think they're starting to get better. They're definitely including features that are common with more expensive MOBO's. Great price point, great performance and not to mention that their new Katana series are just so sexy looking. Not too many boards carry the black and red scheme. I have been doing the blue and black/blue LED theme for a while now and it's just so common amongst custom PC builds. When I'm done it's all going into this case. www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
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Foxconn is still in it. I think they're starting to get better. They're definitely including features that are common with more expensive MOBO's. Great price point, great performance and not to mention that their new Katana series are just so sexy looking. Not too many boards carry the black and red scheme. I have been doing the blue and black/blue LED theme for a while now and it's just so common amongst custom PC builds. When I'm done it's all going into this case. www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
Neat, i am in the same boat as you with the red and black theme and building. I went with a 920, Corsair 800d case, case is decked out with some Yate Loon reds, EVGA x58 Classified, Corsair GT Ram 1600 (for the red theme lol) couple SSD's and WD 1TB blacks, Enermax revolution 85+ (more red/black) etc. have everything else just waiting on Nvidia's new cards to launch hopefully march. Did look at the foxconn blood rage for the red/black but I still remember reading somewhere they are dropping support for Mobo's and was hesitant about that whole business.
OP!whatever model you choose make sure all part you buy support direct cache access!if you dont have it the intel isnt worth buying might as well buy a dual core x2 255 from amd only 75 $and its very fast
Foxconn is still in it. I think they're starting to get better. They're definitely including features that are common with more expensive MOBO's. Great price point, great performance and not to mention that their new Katana series are just so sexy looking. Not too many boards carry the black and red scheme. I have been doing the blue and black/blue LED theme for a while now and it's just so common amongst custom PC builds. When I'm done it's all going into this case. www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
Neat, i am in the same boat as you with the red and black theme and building. I went with a 920, Corsair 800d case, case is decked out with some Yate Loon reds, EVGA x58 Classified, Corsair GT Ram 1600 (for the red theme lol) couple SSD's and WD 1TB blacks, Enermax revolution 85+ (more red/black) etc. have everything else just waiting on Nvidia's new cards to launch hopefully march. Did look at the foxconn blood rage for the red/black but I still remember reading somewhere they are dropping support for Mobo's and was hesitant about that whole business.
Where can I find Yate Loons? Becuz they seem to be the only company that I can find that makes Red LED's in uncommon sizes.
And drbaltazar. How do I know if my MOBO supports DCA? I'm looking at this one. www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
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It all depends on how much you are willing to spend as the others already mentioned. But if you do have the extra cash for 1366 I would go for it seeing how it will support the i9 giving you better options for upgrade in the future.
But then again if you're going to buy a new computer within the next 1-2 years the most price worthy right now would be:
Asus P7P55D
Core i5 750, 2.66GHz
Radeon HD5770
SSD Intel X25-M (cant afford? cut down on the other parts cause this is a must have)
So an i7 2.8GHz Quad proc via 1156 is going to be obsolete for modern gaming/MMO'ing after two years? I don't even know that many apps or games that utilize all four cores or push the 775 Quads now. I've had this Pentium D for about 4 years and it still runs okay. As a 775 socket I could just upgrade to an E8400 and maybe a new 5000 series Radeon for about $115 and run things just peachy for a couple of more years. So I don't think 1156 will be making any descents 3-4 years from now. I'm sure my current build selection will suffice just fine by 2014. And BTW I have an Intel 40GB SSD in my pile already. Just waiting on the other parts.
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My girl is only letting me go up to $600 with shipping so I figured I would just collect parts and save.
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And I would NEVER drop $500 on an SSD or HDD. Performance isn't going to make that big a difference for my MMO machine. Having the 40GB version for my OS and a 150GB Velociraptor for my games and apps will be plenty enough for me.
Getting too old for this $&17!
Foxconn is still in it. I think they're starting to get better. They're definitely including features that are common with more expensive MOBO's. Great price point, great performance and not to mention that their new Katana series are just so sexy looking. Not too many boards carry the black and red scheme. I have been doing the blue and black/blue LED theme for a while now and it's just so common amongst custom PC builds. When I'm done it's all going into this case. www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
Neat, i am in the same boat as you with the red and black theme and building. I went with a 920, Corsair 800d case, case is decked out with some Yate Loon reds, EVGA x58 Classified, Corsair GT Ram 1600 (for the red theme lol) couple SSD's and WD 1TB blacks, Enermax revolution 85+ (more red/black) etc. have everything else just waiting on Nvidia's new cards to launch hopefully march. Did look at the foxconn blood rage for the red/black but I still remember reading somewhere they are dropping support for Mobo's and was hesitant about that whole business.
Where can I find Yate Loons? Becuz they seem to be the only company that I can find that makes Red LED's in uncommon sizes.
And drbaltazar. How do I know if my MOBO supports DCA? I'm looking at this one. www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
its an intel feature so you might have to check there ,but intel being intel they are too dum to write down the one that support it
so you might have to dig but if you got a computer or friends of your got some in the network command thing
START
ALL PROGRAM
ACCESSORY
RIGHT CLICK COMMAND
ADMINISTRATOR
THEN YOU WRITE :netsh int tcp show global .
basicly it ask what is avail
you should see a line that say direct cache access if your run w7
just saying!dont activate this tho if you have amd i dont think amd support this
as for intel most new intel mobo should support it for other brand i dont know but check on their site
just make sure nic,mobo,proc support direct cache access because it only work if all part support it
i heard intel server in the past were the first to get those .
more then that i dont know
but it will speed up your system a lot if you got direct cache access
i just wish intel and all other company just wrote it if they support it or not
maybe speedguide.net can steer you in the right direction for that since it where i first saw the term
by the way if you got w7 64 bit you can apply their netsh tweak but dont i repeat DONT apply their registery tweak
w7 registery changed too much i tried the registery tweak and i was slower .
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