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Framerate issues?
Okay. So here's the dealio. I decided to keep my rig and just start buying my parts for my new gaming PC throughout this year now that I'm working again. In my current setup I have been having issues. Not sure if it's my CPU or my video card. Maybe even lack of RAM. I plan on just keeping this for movies and WoW plus my girl plays Aion. As of late I've always has some lag here and there, but recently I hooked my PC up to our 32" 1080p LCD. For movies mostly but gaming also since I only have one PC. Programs seem to to open up okay, but when my virus scan starts and I'm either playing a movie or game, it lags and hangs. Or when I'm gaming and decide to look something up on the net it lags. ESPECIALLY when I boxx both of my WoW accounts. I've noticed that when I play 720p to 1080p movies at times the audio will still stream but the video will lock, pixelate and jump frames. Even on some regular movies. And that's with nothing else running. When I play WoW I get about 4-15 F.P.S. in cities and about 25-35 outside. My stuff is outdated but I can only upgrade one thing for now and keep it under $120. My stuff is for sure outdated but I personally feel that my card should at least run better than it does and suspect that my CPU may be holding it back.
Here's what I have for my CPU: www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx
And here's what I have for my Video Card: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
Or maybe more RAM?
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If it's a CPU issue then maybe this?: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
Or if it's my card then maybe these?: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx or www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx
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Hi again :-)
Increase of RAM will not increase your FPS in games or during video play. I think that your problem is VGA. Lets face it, my laptop has faster and it is not that fast at all. Consider 99$ Radeon 4850 and you will be really happy. Second to upgrade might be CPU but that would require new motherboard and this can get expensive.
I just posted on another issue that if you wanna best price performance CPU you go with triple core from AMD (there is 2.9GHz one for less than 80$ on newegg). Anyway, normally slower CPU is fine for games, but fast VGA is NECESSARY. Sure, you might be slightly slowed down by your CPU if you don't upgrade it, but not by that much - that is your 4 FPS in WoW are not result of poor CPU.
How much $$ would you actually spend to upgrade?
Well all of my $ is going to my new build. So in the meantime I'm limited to a $130 allowance. So I figured either the proc or card. I think one of the two cards I've listed should be nice I suppose if it is a card issue more than anything. In that case it would just be a matter of HIS vs XFX. I have an HIS now and am happy but it seems XFX offers the better warranty.
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Keep in mind I'm just upgrading this current PC without buying all new parts so obviously I'm keeping my MOBO. which is a www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx .
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If it is only 120$ then VGA is clear choice. And for this price you cannot get better than with Radeon 4850. Brand you can choose what do you prefer, it is only matter of warranty not speed. BTW this card should give you at least constant 40FPS in WoW even with your CPU and I think it should be even 60+ (WoW is old and your CPU is not that slow). I used to have 60 FPS on Age of Conan with this card and that game is really hungry.
Did it just start lagging with these things out of the blue?
Actually increasing RAM does directly affect FPS during games and while doing multiple processes at once.
But to the OP how much RAM do you have in your rig and what type?
Btw you CPU is fine. I would focus on upgrading you graphics card. The best bang for your buck would probably be an Nvidia 9800 GT you can get them for cheap and they are amazing cards. Plus Nvidia is constantly putting out updates for drivers. If you are looking for a new CPU though make sure to check your sockets on your MOBO.
Oh and i almost forgot make sure that your PSU has enough Watts for a new Card or you'll be screwed.
To OP: This is a very good point. If you suddenly have smaller FPS than you used to have, it is pointing more to some kind of HW or SW problem. If it was such slow FPS from beginning, your computer started to loose its breath.
set it properly 1980 x 1080 or whatever true hd is 24 heartz (in graphic card setting once thats done it should be smoother
if it fliker maybe your screen have a setting to rise the heartz to 60 or whatever you like
why the heartz thing the short version is,the tv screen copy 5 time the heartz your graphic card send it so it is a good idea to lower heartz as low as it will go
and no guy this tip is good only for hd all other are locked to 60 heartz or higher witch will make you game lag
that why all ps3 have hd because it can be lowered to 24htz i wish i had an hd screen i bot the one spec just lower then it (grrrr)
Well I could always just hold out until next tax return next year becuz I have a $2000 allowance at that point and just take my $600 allowance now and do this instead: secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx
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Im able to watch 720p movies on my laptop from 1999. So If your computer can handle WoW Im sure it will be able to play HD movies without having any lag. Im guessing you're using VLC? If you are, try switching to a more powerful player. Like Media Player Classic with CCCP codec pack (sure there are better out there but this one works well and its free!
As you can see WoW plays horrible as stated in my post. And as far as players, I have Divx, VLC, Zoom, MPC, WMP and a couple others including all updated codecs. I do a lot of ripping and hard subbing so players isn't an issue.
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Ok.. decoding 1080p x264 is very cpu intensive, a Pentium D can't handle it very well. Now if the content is properly encoded it *can* be passed off to the GPU for decoding, if you have a newer GPU and you go through the somewhat complex steps to set up GPU decoding.
http://nunnally.ahmygoddess.net/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva/ is mostly accurate for setting this up btw.
Also WoW runs like crap on a 2600XT these days since the newer expansions, especially at 1920x1080. So we know you need both CPU and video card but since the video card can probably handle most your 1080p x264 content once the software is set up right, a video card is your better option if you're keeping it below $130.
Ram can help to a certain point, once you have "enough" then adding more does nothing, so would help to know how much you have atm. You want 2GB at least to run decent, 4GB is ideal.
I think your problem is CPU and Memory. WoW and 1080P movies are designed to be played on IGPs. The HD2600XT outpaces an IGP by a long shot. I would need to know the rest of your system specs to make a proper judgement. Older Intel's also lack Hyper Transport so the memory bandwidth is lower.
Pentium D 820 Smithfield 2.8GHz Socket 775
Gigabyte GA-P35-D3SL Solid Capacitor Motherbaord
Western Digital Raptor 10k RPM 36GB (Boot Drive)
Western Digital Green 7200 RPM 320GB (Apps and Media)
HIS Radeon HD 2600XT 512MB IceQ Turbo (2200 MHz Effective Memory Clock)
PSU? 500watt. Came with the case I got back in 2007. Yeah I know.
I did runs checks on my drive BTW and they check out just fine. PSU might be an issue. When I OC only a little bit say......to 3.2GHz, it shuts of like 2 or three times and then apps load times get really laggy.
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How much ram do you have? What OS are you on?
2GB RAM
Windows 7 Ultimate RC
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If you're playing video, I'd recommend shutting off all background programs running. It could be the problem to the freeze video issue you are having. Typically, I keep my startup registry clean of any programs except the core processes the OS needs to run. You can configure your startup programs by typing "msconfig" in the run console (Winkey + R).
Basically in overclocking you have to do your checks and balances. It's a patient process of changing one value then adjusting another to balance components that are in the equation. I'm not going to bother going through it all being there's literally 100's of guides out there to show you how to get a maximum stable overclock with all factors considered. Though, I will say if you don't have an aftermarket heatsink, don't even bother because you'll end up overheating your CPU.
Being both your video card and CPU are pretty shotty, upgrading one will just bottleneck the other. In places like towns in RPG games, they become much more CPU intensive than GPU intensive. You could try getting an aftermarket heatsink and read up on some OC guides and try that out before replacing anymore of your core components.
E7500 that's the best you'll get for under 120 dollars.
or you could get a 4850, they're around 100 bucks now. It's pretty much a coin toss.
Do keep in mind your graphics card isn't going to handle high resolutions well at all and if that's the case, it's just not in the cards.
Thanx for the input. I'm gonna drop a couple grand next year so in the meantime my wife gave me a $600 limit to spend. So this is what happened with that money. It's not the greatest, but I'll be happy. Here's the thread I posted of it.
www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3389766#3389766
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