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This is a poll to see how many gamers that frequent these forums smoke cigarettes or cigars. Please answer truthfully and do not be ashamed to admit that you smoke. This is for research purposes. So please, please answer truthfully.
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Why would anyone be ashamed to admit they smoke?
Hell, I'm gunna smoke 3 at a time in honor of this thread. =P
You'd be surprised at how many people are ashamed of the fact that they smoke.
i Said no... but i stoped smoking last x mas.
so used to be one
Sorry for typos... dyslexic and just too damn lazy to proof read every post for 30 min
(yes i am aware of spell check but it does not help that much
You'd be surprised at how many people are ashamed of the fact that they smoke.
Ashamed of being a smoker..? Sounds odd to me...
I know my brother smokes a lot while playing FFXI.
Personally I never have smoked, but I compensate that with drinking Though I only "use" one bottle of whiskey a month...
Why on earth would you be afraid to admit to smoking anything...?
I smoke....
It's not something I'm ashamed of
*Shrug*
I smoke cigars, cigarettes and Marijuana.
No one has the right to tell me what to put in my body. Period.
I am admittedly curious why you're researching the correlation between smoking and gaming.
I am not a smoker. I am curious as to why you say this is related to gaming in some way. Can you tell us what you are are researching?
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
WTF? No subscription fee?
Marlboro lights
Trying to win the online tobacco advertising dollar?
For the record I smoke like a chimney, but I only change brands if I have to.
I voted no, but for the sake of full disclosure I just quit cold turkey last September after over 20 years of smoking up to 2 packs per day. The last few years that I smoked I was down to less than a pack per day and this last year that I smoked I was smoking less than half a pack per day usually.
My reasons for quitting were basically first about health, and because the cost of cigarettes has become so prohibitively high it became unjustifiable. That being said, I still will continue to say that no government has the right to do essentially what amounts to forcing a citizen to quit smoking by taxing the crap out of it to make it too expensive... I am glad that I quit, and I think that noone should smoke, but I think it should be everyone's personal choice.
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Yes I do smoke: Marlboro Mediums, also counting 6 years ago I also used to smoke some weed every now and then but havn't touched it for well........6 years, 12 years ago I smoked allot of weed but this was during a sort of life crysis I was going through.
Overall yes I do smoke but stick to sigarretes only and a pack of sigarretes about 4/5 day's...
Now inform us in what way this is game-related? I have seen you make topics like this before with slightly not so common questions, yet remain to see any really answers coming from it. Hope you will this time.
Also people need to be aware that yes smoking is bad for your health but so are many more things in life that are bad and people seem to forget this when they speak about smoking, will smoking really be the cause of cancer, thing is I have seen many people die of cancer they didn't smoke, didn't hang out with those who smoked, some of them where even athletes.
Myself don't smoke inside the house, also do not smoke around people who don't smoke themselfs. Especially keep away from kids.
I also hope those people against smoking don't drive older cars.
Nope. Actually MMO's helped me quit smoking a long time ago. Have to replace one addiction with another...
Not a smoker, but used to do smokeless tobacco for about 8 years and gave it up when the dentist said the sores in my mouth were precancerous lesions. You get them in your lungs too, just can't see them.
As to a gaming connection, I can think of one for sure, how many times have you ever been in a group situation and had to wait for someone to go out for a smoke (because many smokers won't do it inside their own homes these days)
Just this past weekend I was in a good grind group in Aion when our tank paused and had to go outside for a smoke. Fortunately was only about 5-7 minutes, and I grabbed a snack, but still, smoking did impact gaming time.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Because it's a weakness. And it's plain dumb. Both is nothing to be proud of.
Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)
Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)
i quit recently.
quitting is the best thing you can do for your health and of course you save money to pay for many mmo subscriptions each month
I'm smoking and from my latelst calculations I spend 6x more on smoking than on mmorpg subscription <.< Time to quit.
Because it's a weakness. And it's plain dumb. Both is nothing to be proud of.
I like this guy.
I do not smoke. Never have and never will. Personal reasons.
- Ross
I only smoke weed/hash. still voted yes since i need to mix it with tobacco^^
But i never smoke normal cigs.
Currently Playing Path of Exile
I smoked for around 10 years and quit about 4 years ago.
Best thing I ever did for myself was stopping smoking.
Smoke like a trooper thank you.
I quit smoking some 3 months before myself & my then partner wanted to start our own family, cold-turkey, which is not something most smokers can handle, quitting was hell, I was a miserable moody bastard for weeks & goit the cigarette twitches for some 18 months after.
It's been 16 years without smoking, tried the occasional smoke here & there but ended up making myself puke my guts up every time, and if I'm honest I am glad I quit & wish my ex wife would too as she smokes around my kid & it pisses me off mightily, especially when my kid has asthma, though not badly.
I'm the stereotypical ex-smoker, I hate smoking even more than those who haven't ever smoked & I can be orribly obnoxious about it, but only because it really bothers me, both my parents smoked & I hate it more now than I did before I was a smoker, as a kid I just never was bothered, didn't even give it any thought, well, apart from wishing my dad would get cancer cus I hated his alcoholic family-beating ass.
I try to refrain from telling other people how to live, though my ex gets grief from me when I tell her to at least take her smoking outside away from the kids, cus that just get's my back up.
I think that's an interesting question. Like, how far is an addiction a personal choice?
Let's say you give someone a drug, which would make the person incredibly happy, but as side effect force the person to slowly rasp away it's limbs with a nail file. And let's further say you have an antidote. Now if you ask that person "I got the antidote, you don't have to cripple yourself anymore" and he says "ooooh no, I'm so happy!!!" do you then also say "well, ok then, continue, it's your own decision", throw away the antidote and continue watching him rasping away his limbs.
Not to mention that cigs don't only have an impact on those who smoke. What about parents with children? Do you then also think it's the decision of the parents if they want to smoke or not, thus damaging their children? Sometimes, when I was still living at my family, I had the urge to ask my mother, who smokes: "hey mom, in case I die of lung cancer, how would you feel?" Also if parents try to teach their children "smoking is bad" and the children see everywhere people smoking, then those lessons don't work that well either.
And don't forget: if smoking wouldn't be an old tradition and involved into billions of $ and €, involving large corporations and tax money. If it wouldn't exist, and someone would now invent it and say: "look, I invented this thing. It's incredibly addictive and poisons you and those around you. It increases the chance to get afflicted by dozens and dozens of diseases, from annoying ones to lethal ones. Can we sell it?" Do you think any government would then say "sure, go ahead, sounds like just the thing we need"? The only reason why smoking exists is because of the money involved and the "tradition".
Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)
Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)
I think that's an interesting question. Like, how far is an addiction a personal choice?
Let's say you give someone a drug, which would make the person incredibly happy, but as side effect force the person to slowly rasp away it's limbs with a nail file. And let's further say you have an antidote. Now if you ask that person "I got the antidote, you don't have to cripple yourself anymore" and he says "ooooh no, I'm so happy!!!" do you then also say "well, ok then, continue, it's your own decision", throw away the antidote and continue watching him rasping away his limbs.
Not to mention that cigs don't only have an impact on those who smoke. What about parents with children? Do you then also think it's the decision of the parents if they want to smoke or not, thus damaging their children? Sometimes, when I was still living at my family, I had the urge to ask my mother, who smokes: "hey mom, in case I die of lung cancer, how would you feel?" Also if parents try to teach their children "smoking is bad" and the children see everywhere people smoking, then those lessons don't work that well either.
And don't forget: if smoking wouldn't be an old tradition and involved into billions of $ and €, involving large corporations and tax money. If it wouldn't exist, and someone would now invent it and say: "look, I invented this thing. It's incredibly addictive and poisons you and those around you. It increases the chance to get afflicted by dozens and dozens of diseases, from annoying ones to lethal ones. Can we sell it?" Do you think any government would then say "sure, go ahead, sounds like just the thing we need"? The only reason why smoking exists is because of the money involved and the "tradition".
Interesting point, I wonder if you stacked up Alcohol, Cigarettes & many class A drugs & then put all of their health effects into the equation whether you could offer up a strong argument that all of those substances should be made illegal.
Money.
If it wasn't for the established earnings & tax dollars of Alcohol & Tobacco they'd be illegal too, and if the Government could guarantee those kinds of returns from drugs, well I'd bet my ass they'd be legalised tomorrow.
Sure, addiction to alcohol is a big problem as well. The average lifespan of men in Russia for example is so short because of the excessive consumption of alcohol. Still, I think cigarettes are far worse. When you drink alcohol you damage noone else. It's also not as addicting as nicotin, and your body is able to clean itself from alcohol far easier than the toxic stuff in cigarettes. Not to mention that every single cig does damage your body. However drinking a glass of wine every now and then does no damage.
Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)
Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)
I think that's an interesting question. Like, how far is an addiction a personal choice?
Let's say you give someone a drug, which would make the person incredibly happy, but as side effect force the person to slowly rasp away it's limbs with a nail file. And let's further say you have an antidote. Now if you ask that person "I got the antidote, you don't have to cripple yourself anymore" and he says "ooooh no, I'm so happy!!!" do you then also say "well, ok then, continue, it's your own decision", throw away the antidote and continue watching him rasping away his limbs.
Not to mention that cigs don't only have an impact on those who smoke. What about parents with children? Do you then also think it's the decision of the parents if they want to smoke or not, thus damaging their children? Sometimes, when I was still living at my family, I had the urge to ask my mother, who smokes: "hey mom, in case I die of lung cancer, how would you feel?" Also if parents try to teach their children "smoking is bad" and the children see everywhere people smoking, then those lessons don't work that well either.
And don't forget: if smoking wouldn't be an old tradition and involved into billions of $ and €, involving large corporations and tax money. If it wouldn't exist, and someone would now invent it and say: "look, I invented this thing. It's incredibly addictive and poisons you and those around you. It increases the chance to get afflicted by dozens and dozens of diseases, from annoying ones to lethal ones. Can we sell it?" Do you think any government would then say "sure, go ahead, sounds like just the thing we need"? The only reason why smoking exists is because of the money involved and the "tradition".
I am a smoker myself, but found myself really seeing your point here Maji. Its definatly all about the tradition. when the smoking ban came along in this country a few years ago (uk) I went on along with it hapily enough. I dont really think that arguing about taking away personal freedoms is really relevent when the freedom in question halms others. Also there was a mad kind of social revival and personaly I found myself chating to strangers as we smokers all hudled together outside of pubs when no longer able to smoke inside of them. However I really dont think baning smoking outright is going to stick, especialy with the current generation. I mean weed is banned and that never stops anybody. Drugs of any kind always seem to find a way through. I think educating the kids about what smoking does has to be the way forward. Maybee in the future it can be phased out altogether. But the tax generated from tobacco sales and the corporations involved is always going to be a block against it. As for myself just lost one of my best freinds to smoking related cancer. If that doesn't want to make you stop smoking what will?
We don't have time for smoking, we play!
But really, is that what you are after? To see if gaming works as similar stimulator for the brain as smoking and as such gamers tend to choose gaming rather than smoking for stress relieving and to counter boredom.
[edit] I don't actively smoke cigarettes, but seldom flavored tobacco and psychoactive herbs.