Fallen earth is my best new game in 09. Fallen earth has something for everyone, if they had more money to develop the game im sure it would have won this sites award. The game basically wasn't finished i think.
Aion only looks cool, but i'm sure the repetition would kill me.
Aion deserve it more than the others titles released in 2009, so im agree with the choice, the other contendenders were just... very unpolished or flat games.
too bad the competition didn't get to release a year earlier in the east and polish and refine the products to the crap level of evergrind....err...Aion.
Grouping in Old school mmo's: meeting someone at the bar and chatting, getting to know them before jumping into bed. Current mmo's grouping: tinder. swipe, hookup, hope you don't get herpes, never see them again.
I suppose I would have liked to see the staff say that no game in 2009 earned such an award - Aion may well be the best out of a bunch of 'under-performers', but has more than enough objective issues to render this award meaningless in the eyes of many.
yah, we've been having a crapfest of mmo releases the last couple of years.
It's not like there was really much to choose from in 2009. At least Aion is pretty! The whole experience kind of falls apart from there on.
"Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II "People love groups. Its a fallacy that people want to play solo all the time." - Scott Hartsman, Executive Producer, Rift
Well, I guess this just goes to show, different strokes for different folks and all that.
I honestly struggle to understand what on earth people see in Aion, it is possibly one of the worst MMO's I've ever played. I tried to like it, heck I even got given the collectors edition and 30 days sub for free, thanks to being a Tabula Rasa sub when that died, even so it was just an aweful game experience. It kinda reminds me of my days as a kid when 'Golden Eye' came out on the N64, everyone was going on about it being the best game ever made, and I sat there looking at it wondering if everyone else in the world was playing a different game because I though it was naff.
Conversly I think I'm in love with Fallen Earth, I've been playing for months now since launch and still have not got bored of the game, I have no issues with it's graphics and if I ever need a reminder about graphics meaning nothing in an MMO, then I just remember Aion and how it tries to seduce you with it's lovely, sexy graphics but in reality it is trying to blind you from the uglyness of it's gameplay.
So yeah, for me I think Fallen Earth would have been a more deserving winner, especially when I have to wonder what state the games will be in a year from now, I wonder if Aion will even still be running if it doesn't get the number of subs NCSoft were boasting about around release time, they seem to have a track record for killing games off that don't meet expectations.
Im at a loss here. Runes of Magic has been nominated for best New Game of 2009, but not for the best f2p of 2009 list. So, does this mean that overall the f2p games were better? After all, Runes of Magic is F2P and didnt even make the list of nominations for best f2p game of 2009
Just pointing out that its a logical fallacy. Best New Game of 2009 category includes the F2P ones. So if a F2P game is on nominations list of overall category, it also needs to be on the f2p nominations list.
Yikes... that is a big mistake!
I didn't follow Runes of Magic at all... but it would definitely appear that was a bit of an oversight on their part.
Fallen earth is my best new game in 09. Fallen earth has something for everyone, if they had more money to develop the game im sure it would have won this sites award. The game basically wasn't finished i think
wow Fallen earth didn't deserve the title best game of the year. It was Microsoft product, and MS know nothing about making games. The fallen earth proves it. I tried to play it. Controls was terrible. Actually to be able to move and kill and use items normally i had to zoom in to 1st person and out to 3th person regular. I played it for 3h. The story they had suck (the beginning one). It was one of the worth games in 2009, not best.
But you've got to be joking... I've avoided this game like the plague. I've got several friends who played it from launch and who were complete fanboys... Until after the first month. No one that I know personally has stayed with the game for more than a month or so. The game's one really cool idea is just another skill. Flight has little effect on the gameplay.
In my mind the Best New MMO of the year has to have Champions Online. Just my opinion, mind you...
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Fallen earth is my best new game in 09. Fallen earth has something for everyone, if they had more money to develop the game im sure it would have won this sites award. The game basically wasn't finished i think
wow Fallen earth didn't deserve the title best game of the year. It was Microsoft product, and MS know nothing about making games. The fallen earth proves it. I tried to play it. Controls was terrible. Actually to be able to move and kill and use items normally i had to zoom in to 1st person and out to 3th person regular. I played it for 3h. The story they had suck (the beginning one). It was one of the worth games in 2009, not best.
Wow... I'm currently playing Fallen Earth. It's not perfect, by any means, but it's not the worst game of the year. I think you're confusing the game with WoW or some other MMO. The game states up front that it's more like an FPS than a 3rd person game. The controls aren't bad at all. They're just not the same as everything else out there. Although you could certainly make it more like other games if you want to spend the time adjusting things.
The initial story seemed to me to quite logical based on the setting. Was a master stroke of creative process? No, probably not. But did it suck? Absolutely not. The publisher, be it M$ or Blizzivision or Crytpic or whoever, really has nothing to do with the creation of the game. Fallen Earth LLC is responsible for the game and it's content.
The game is not for the "hold my hand and tell me where to go" crowd. It's not for the "I'm too impatient to learn" crowd either. It's got the most robust crafting system of any modern MMO. And it takes time and, God forbid, effort on the user's part to do stuff. So it's not WoW. It's not going to tell you "go to Ankh Morpork to find the string in said quest". When you finish workin' for whoever, you're finished workin' for whoever. Where you go next? Wherever you want.
That having been said, I think FE is worthy of being in the consideration for Best New MMO, but I still think, as I said in my previous post, that Champions Online is still the Best New MMO of 2009.
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Originally posted by Sonoko Reading through this I feel like I'm doing something wrong in Aion. I mean, here I am at level 50: Sonoko The problem is that not only do I still enjoy this game, but I've not once felt the need to grind. Quite seriously, I did 1-50 doing absolutely nothing but questing. And no, not farming repeatables. At any given level there was more than enough quest content to get to the next level, so I'm a bit confused here. There's two things I can think of, either some people are utterly terrible and die so much they have to grind to make back lost exp, or they just selectively ignore large portions of the content in the game. "I want to exclusively solo, this level only has group quests, what a grind!" "I want to exclusively group, this level only has solo quests, what a grind!" "Oh, I don't like PVP so I'm not doing these spy quests/abyss quests worth millions of exp! Oh man, now there's no quests to do and I need to grind!" Yeah, newsflash, everything's intertwined and it's expected that you partake in all aspects of the game. In fact, so far the only thing I've seen resembling a grind is the Platinum Coin weapons, of which I actually own one. 2000 platinum coins, a quest can reward anywhere from 4-19 of them. What a grind, right? Oh wait, they're tradeable, and lots of people farm them, so you can just buy them on the broker and get your weapon without so much as killing a single monster related to it. And they're easily outmatched by dropped gold weapons anyway, so there's no necessity to go for one whatsoever. As far as enjoyment of the game goes, this baffles me the most. Maybe some other classes aren't as fun to play, but Templar is a blast even while doing solo content. Unlike most other games I've played where you really do cycle one skill rotation for everything, that's not even close to what I do in Aion. Every different mob uses different skills at certain percentages, so I need to have a different rotation for practically everything in order to interrupt their skills and maximize my efficiency, and this is while taking time to weave autoattacks with split-second precision for maximum dps. The group content is somewhat different. It starts off somewhat "meh" but grows into being really fun. The group dungeons like Mist Mane and Bakarma remind me highly of when I played EQ2 back in KoS, they have the same charm as SoS and PoA. Large areas capable of supporting tons of groups, plenty of quests taking you all throughout the zone, lots of rare monsters that can drop some nice loot, just all around group fun. The instances kind of go the same way, both Training Camp and Fire Temple are fairly lackluster, and to a lesser extent Alquimia Stronghold, but past that I've entirely fallen in love with them. Steel Rake is absolutely gorgeous and is the introduction of boss encounters that are scripted and involve a lot more than just tank and spank. Then Draupnir Cave and Adma Stronghold kick the bosses up a notch by having end bosses (Commander Bakarma and Lord Lannok) that you really have to learn and wipe to numerous times to come up with an effective strategy and execute it properly. It reminded me of pre-nerf Nizara in EQ2, essentially raid content restricted to only one group. And Dark Poeta, well, correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think anybody in the West has killed the S-Rank boss yet. I can only imagine I'm going to have a lot of fun trying to down that. :O Reading though this topic I've also noticed a lot of people mentioning issues that are virtually non-existent now, which kind of makes me laugh. Bots? I remember a time when there were hundreds of bots running all over KSing mobs from people. That was... months ago? I still see bots occasionally but in the past month I'd say I've seen maybe 6, of which some I'm pretty sure have since been banned since I stopped seeing them. Crashing? This too was resolved quite awhile ago, I've had absolutely no issues on massive sieges with hundreds of people. I *DID* use to crash a lot early on and that really gave me a sour taste, but, geez, I can't even remember the last time I've crashed now. I also remember when chat was unreadable until you blocked 6 spammers every time you logged in. Now I can go days before seeing even one, which really isn't that annoying to right click and block. The last dozen times I've went into Pandaemonium I've also been surprised at the lack of RMT advertising shops up in front of the Temple of Gold. I kind of expected that to never be dealt with due to how easy it is to get a char up to level 10 and do it, and yet they're actually dealing with it. O.o I'm also actually kind of annoyed that NCSoft has been listening to the complainers and had three double exp weekends in a row. I think it's entirely unnecessary. = But wow, they actually listened to people, what a lame company, right guys? Anyway, can somebody fill me in on what I'm doing wrong? I feel like an outcast having a completely different experience with Aion than you guys. Help me hate it too so I can be part of your cool clique!
You know I agree with everything you said, I had a blast playing Aion, what killed it for me was the Cesspool Community both in game and on the forums, Ncsoft does zero moderation, WoW by comparison is diligent, Child porn links, anti-Semitism, racists, sexism homophobic remarks hate speech is not only tolerated it even seems to be encouraged by the employees of Ncsoft west, between that, the horrible account security, the gold spam and the bots just make a killer game completely unplayable by a large amount of people.
I recently had a very good friend from Seoul come visit me, he plays the KR version and was just blown away by how the American community behaved. This is shameful he said, we would never act like that, I knew he was speaking the truth because I have visited many gaming Café’s in Soule a couple years back when I was sent there on Bussiness, it is just a night and day culture compared to ours it was literally embarrassing, to show this guy what American gamers could be like.
I may go back to Aion one day but it will be the Chinese or Korean version Ncsoft west is a joke, and should not even be compared to it’s home office in the east.
This sword here at my side dont act the way it should Keeps calling me its master, but I feel like its slave Hauling me faster and faster to an early, early grave And it howls! it howls like hell!
Fallen earth is my best new game in 09. Fallen earth has something for everyone, if they had more money to develop the game im sure it would have won this sites award. The game basically wasn't finished i think. Aion only looks cool, but i'm sure the repetition would kill me.
Fallen Earth with it's 2000 subs against the 2nd most played MMO in the world. Seriously, there is no competition between the two.People were expecting FE to be worse then it was. Aion on the other hand has maintained a huge sub base to warrant it's place as the second best/most played MMO.
lol, this site is a joke. especially since aion has gotten mediocre scores everywhere else, received most disappointing game from massively.com, and overall has a bad rep.
no... just no
mmorpg.com is pretty legit compared to massively.com especially since seraphina (the writer that gave Aion the most disappointment of 2009 award) has even admitted to only playing up to lvl 14 with her gladiator when everyone at aionsource called her out on it. they've been trying to save face but it's already been proven by the aion community that her main is lvl 14.
Originally posted by Sonoko Reading through this I feel like I'm doing something wrong in Aion. I mean, here I am at level 50: Sonoko The problem is that not only do I still enjoy this game, but I've not once felt the need to grind. Quite seriously, I did 1-50 doing absolutely nothing but questing. And no, not farming repeatables. At any given level there was more than enough quest content to get to the next level, so I'm a bit confused here. There's two things I can think of, either some people are utterly terrible and die so much they have to grind to make back lost exp, or they just selectively ignore large portions of the content in the game. "I want to exclusively solo, this level only has group quests, what a grind!" "I want to exclusively group, this level only has solo quests, what a grind!" "Oh, I don't like PVP so I'm not doing these spy quests/abyss quests worth millions of exp! Oh man, now there's no quests to do and I need to grind!" Yeah, newsflash, everything's intertwined and it's expected that you partake in all aspects of the game. In fact, so far the only thing I've seen resembling a grind is the Platinum Coin weapons, of which I actually own one. 2000 platinum coins, a quest can reward anywhere from 4-19 of them. What a grind, right? Oh wait, they're tradeable, and lots of people farm them, so you can just buy them on the broker and get your weapon without so much as killing a single monster related to it. And they're easily outmatched by dropped gold weapons anyway, so there's no necessity to go for one whatsoever. As far as enjoyment of the game goes, this baffles me the most. Maybe some other classes aren't as fun to play, but Templar is a blast even while doing solo content. Unlike most other games I've played where you really do cycle one skill rotation for everything, that's not even close to what I do in Aion. Every different mob uses different skills at certain percentages, so I need to have a different rotation for practically everything in order to interrupt their skills and maximize my efficiency, and this is while taking time to weave autoattacks with split-second precision for maximum dps. The group content is somewhat different. It starts off somewhat "meh" but grows into being really fun. The group dungeons like Mist Mane and Bakarma remind me highly of when I played EQ2 back in KoS, they have the same charm as SoS and PoA. Large areas capable of supporting tons of groups, plenty of quests taking you all throughout the zone, lots of rare monsters that can drop some nice loot, just all around group fun. The instances kind of go the same way, both Training Camp and Fire Temple are fairly lackluster, and to a lesser extent Alquimia Stronghold, but past that I've entirely fallen in love with them. Steel Rake is absolutely gorgeous and is the introduction of boss encounters that are scripted and involve a lot more than just tank and spank. Then Draupnir Cave and Adma Stronghold kick the bosses up a notch by having end bosses (Commander Bakarma and Lord Lannok) that you really have to learn and wipe to numerous times to come up with an effective strategy and execute it properly. It reminded me of pre-nerf Nizara in EQ2, essentially raid content restricted to only one group. And Dark Poeta, well, correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think anybody in the West has killed the S-Rank boss yet. I can only imagine I'm going to have a lot of fun trying to down that. :O Reading though this topic I've also noticed a lot of people mentioning issues that are virtually non-existent now, which kind of makes me laugh. Bots? I remember a time when there were hundreds of bots running all over KSing mobs from people. That was... months ago? I still see bots occasionally but in the past month I'd say I've seen maybe 6, of which some I'm pretty sure have since been banned since I stopped seeing them. Crashing? This too was resolved quite awhile ago, I've had absolutely no issues on massive sieges with hundreds of people. I *DID* use to crash a lot early on and that really gave me a sour taste, but, geez, I can't even remember the last time I've crashed now. I also remember when chat was unreadable until you blocked 6 spammers every time you logged in. Now I can go days before seeing even one, which really isn't that annoying to right click and block. The last dozen times I've went into Pandaemonium I've also been surprised at the lack of RMT advertising shops up in front of the Temple of Gold. I kind of expected that to never be dealt with due to how easy it is to get a char up to level 10 and do it, and yet they're actually dealing with it. O.o I'm also actually kind of annoyed that NCSoft has been listening to the complainers and had three double exp weekends in a row. I think it's entirely unnecessary. = But wow, they actually listened to people, what a lame company, right guys? Anyway, can somebody fill me in on what I'm doing wrong? I feel like an outcast having a completely different experience with Aion than you guys. Help me hate it too so I can be part of your cool clique!
You know I agree with everything you said, I had a blast playing Aion, what killed it for me was the Cesspool Community both in game and on the forums, Ncsoft does zero moderation, WoW by comparison is diligent, Child porn links, anti-Semitism, racists, sexism homophobic remarks hate speech is not only tolerated it even seems to be encouraged by the employees of Ncsoft west, between that, the horrible account security, the gold spam and the bots just make a killer game completely unplayable by a large amount of people.
I recently had a very good friend from Seoul come visit me, he plays the KR version and was just blown away by how the American community behaved. This is shameful he said, we would never act like that, I knew he was speaking the truth because I have visited many gaming Café’s in Soule a couple years back when I was sent there on Bussiness, it is just a night and day culture compared to ours it was literally embarrassing, to show this guy what American gamers could be like.
I may go back to Aion one day but it will be the Chinese or Korean version Ncsoft west is a joke, and should not even be compared to it’s home office in the east.
It's not just in America, there are idiots from all over. Trust me, some of the gaming community in Korea (the kids) are fcking annoying.
About NCwest, I agree. The CEO is Chris Chan, the creator of Arenanet so I don't get it when people try to differentiate the two companies. Ncsoft OWNS Arenanet, it is not just their publisher. It's their subsidiary and arenanet workers work for NCSOFT.
Originally posted by Sonoko Reading through this I feel like I'm doing something wrong in Aion. I mean, here I am at level 50: Sonoko The problem is that not only do I still enjoy this game, but I've not once felt the need to grind. Quite seriously, I did 1-50 doing absolutely nothing but questing. And no, not farming repeatables. At any given level there was more than enough quest content to get to the next level, so I'm a bit confused here. There's two things I can think of, either some people are utterly terrible and die so much they have to grind to make back lost exp, or they just selectively ignore large portions of the content in the game. "I want to exclusively solo, this level only has group quests, what a grind!" "I want to exclusively group, this level only has solo quests, what a grind!" "Oh, I don't like PVP so I'm not doing these spy quests/abyss quests worth millions of exp! Oh man, now there's no quests to do and I need to grind!" Yeah, newsflash, everything's intertwined and it's expected that you partake in all aspects of the game. In fact, so far the only thing I've seen resembling a grind is the Platinum Coin weapons, of which I actually own one. 2000 platinum coins, a quest can reward anywhere from 4-19 of them. What a grind, right? Oh wait, they're tradeable, and lots of people farm them, so you can just buy them on the broker and get your weapon without so much as killing a single monster related to it. And they're easily outmatched by dropped gold weapons anyway, so there's no necessity to go for one whatsoever. As far as enjoyment of the game goes, this baffles me the most. Maybe some other classes aren't as fun to play, but Templar is a blast even while doing solo content. Unlike most other games I've played where you really do cycle one skill rotation for everything, that's not even close to what I do in Aion. Every different mob uses different skills at certain percentages, so I need to have a different rotation for practically everything in order to interrupt their skills and maximize my efficiency, and this is while taking time to weave autoattacks with split-second precision for maximum dps. The group content is somewhat different. It starts off somewhat "meh" but grows into being really fun. The group dungeons like Mist Mane and Bakarma remind me highly of when I played EQ2 back in KoS, they have the same charm as SoS and PoA. Large areas capable of supporting tons of groups, plenty of quests taking you all throughout the zone, lots of rare monsters that can drop some nice loot, just all around group fun. The instances kind of go the same way, both Training Camp and Fire Temple are fairly lackluster, and to a lesser extent Alquimia Stronghold, but past that I've entirely fallen in love with them. Steel Rake is absolutely gorgeous and is the introduction of boss encounters that are scripted and involve a lot more than just tank and spank. Then Draupnir Cave and Adma Stronghold kick the bosses up a notch by having end bosses (Commander Bakarma and Lord Lannok) that you really have to learn and wipe to numerous times to come up with an effective strategy and execute it properly. It reminded me of pre-nerf Nizara in EQ2, essentially raid content restricted to only one group. And Dark Poeta, well, correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think anybody in the West has killed the S-Rank boss yet. I can only imagine I'm going to have a lot of fun trying to down that. :O Reading though this topic I've also noticed a lot of people mentioning issues that are virtually non-existent now, which kind of makes me laugh. Bots? I remember a time when there were hundreds of bots running all over KSing mobs from people. That was... months ago? I still see bots occasionally but in the past month I'd say I've seen maybe 6, of which some I'm pretty sure have since been banned since I stopped seeing them. Crashing? This too was resolved quite awhile ago, I've had absolutely no issues on massive sieges with hundreds of people. I *DID* use to crash a lot early on and that really gave me a sour taste, but, geez, I can't even remember the last time I've crashed now. I also remember when chat was unreadable until you blocked 6 spammers every time you logged in. Now I can go days before seeing even one, which really isn't that annoying to right click and block. The last dozen times I've went into Pandaemonium I've also been surprised at the lack of RMT advertising shops up in front of the Temple of Gold. I kind of expected that to never be dealt with due to how easy it is to get a char up to level 10 and do it, and yet they're actually dealing with it. O.o I'm also actually kind of annoyed that NCSoft has been listening to the complainers and had three double exp weekends in a row. I think it's entirely unnecessary. = But wow, they actually listened to people, what a lame company, right guys? Anyway, can somebody fill me in on what I'm doing wrong? I feel like an outcast having a completely different experience with Aion than you guys. Help me hate it too so I can be part of your cool clique!
You know I agree with everything you said, I had a blast playing Aion, what killed it for me was the Cesspool Community both in game and on the forums, Ncsoft does zero moderation, WoW by comparison is diligent, Child porn links, anti-Semitism, racists, sexism homophobic remarks hate speech is not only tolerated it even seems to be encouraged by the employees of Ncsoft west, between that, the horrible account security, the gold spam and the bots just make a killer game completely unplayable by a large amount of people.
I recently had a very good friend from Seoul come visit me, he plays the KR version and was just blown away by how the American community behaved. This is shameful he said, we would never act like that, I knew he was speaking the truth because I have visited many gaming Café’s in Soule a couple years back when I was sent there on Bussiness, it is just a night and day culture compared to ours it was literally embarrassing, to show this guy what American gamers could be like.
I may go back to Aion one day but it will be the Chinese or Korean version Ncsoft west is a joke, and should not even be compared to it’s home office in the east.
I have to agree... The westerners are HORRIBLE. No respect for anything, unfriendly, selfish and so on.
The west community made me want to stop playing Aion.
A majority of the complaints about the game are either subjective or having nothing to do with the game mechanics. For example, you think Aion is an "Asian Grinder." I wholeheartedly disagree. I think it's a grind when compared to games like WoW. It is not an Asian grind when compared to FFXI or Lineage 2.
Typical, you bitch about him bitching about Aion but in the first chance you get surprise surprise, bitch about WoW. Face the facts, Aion is not the WoW killer, there never will be a WoW killer as long as they blatantly try to copy it. If you want to make something better you have to innovate not immitate.
The poster in blue should really try reading before typing.
Aion is "ok" and thats about it. After now playing for 3 months, I recently canceled my account. Graphically it is a nice looking game and the crafting is decent. However, I feel the game is unbalanced pvp wise as ranged classes (Scout-Spirit Master-Sorc) have a distinct tactical advantage over playing a melee class. If you played a Gladiator then you know what I am talking about. Also, as much as NC Soft "deals" with the gold sellers, I feel they actually support and allow them because the game feels more like a kinah grind more than anything. I f your not in some uber legion, then your going to be one poor ass mofo unless you spend many hours farming materials and having to pay millions of kinah to master a craft for profit. I tried it, it's ok...Maybe Fallen Earth or Darkfall might be more of What I'm looking for. IMO-Dark Age Of Camelot was the funnest game to play, especially the RVR-PVP aspect.
If you like playing mmo's you should give Aion a try. It's a great game. No the graphics are not ground breaking, but they are beautifull. It's a fun place to be, isn't that what it's all about?
Aion is "ok" and thats about it. After now playing for 3 months, I recently canceled my account. Graphically it is a nice looking game and the crafting is decent. However, I feel the game is unbalanced pvp wise as ranged classes (Scout-Spirit Master-Sorc) have a distinct tactical advantage over playing a melee class. If you played a Gladiator then you know what I am talking about. Also, as much as NC Soft "deals" with the gold sellers, I feel they actually support and allow them because the game feels more like a kinah grind more than anything. I f your not in some uber legion, then your going to be one poor ass mofo unless you spend many hours farming materials and having to pay millions of kinah to master a craft for profit. I tried it, it's ok...Maybe Fallen Earth or Darkfall might be more of What I'm looking for. IMO-Dark Age Of Camelot was the funnest game to play, especially the RVR-PVP aspect.
Couldn't agree more. Whats funny is how much money mythic would rake in if they actually started to develop DAOC 2
I played both fallen Earth and /Aion both from beta. Purchased both upon release. Aion is way more fun. Fallen earth is 'mediocre' at best while Aion continues to get better.
There are still issues with bots and kinah spammers, but it's not much of an issue if you are out fighting and not loitering around towns doing absolutely nothing.
I quit Aion for monetary reasons and decided to give it a couple of months and see just how much better the bot/spam situation gets since that is my personal biggest turn off.
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Fallen earth is my best new game in 09. Fallen earth has something for everyone, if they had more money to develop the game im sure it would have won this sites award. The game basically wasn't finished i think.
Aion only looks cool, but i'm sure the repetition would kill me.
too bad the competition didn't get to release a year earlier in the east and polish and refine the products to the crap level of evergrind....err...Aion.
yah, we've been having a crapfest of mmo releases the last couple of years.
It's not like there was really much to choose from in 2009. At least Aion is pretty! The whole experience kind of falls apart from there on.
"Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II
"People love groups. Its a fallacy that people want to play solo all the time." - Scott Hartsman, Executive Producer, Rift
Well, I guess this just goes to show, different strokes for different folks and all that.
I honestly struggle to understand what on earth people see in Aion, it is possibly one of the worst MMO's I've ever played. I tried to like it, heck I even got given the collectors edition and 30 days sub for free, thanks to being a Tabula Rasa sub when that died, even so it was just an aweful game experience. It kinda reminds me of my days as a kid when 'Golden Eye' came out on the N64, everyone was going on about it being the best game ever made, and I sat there looking at it wondering if everyone else in the world was playing a different game because I though it was naff.
Conversly I think I'm in love with Fallen Earth, I've been playing for months now since launch and still have not got bored of the game, I have no issues with it's graphics and if I ever need a reminder about graphics meaning nothing in an MMO, then I just remember Aion and how it tries to seduce you with it's lovely, sexy graphics but in reality it is trying to blind you from the uglyness of it's gameplay.
So yeah, for me I think Fallen Earth would have been a more deserving winner, especially when I have to wonder what state the games will be in a year from now, I wonder if Aion will even still be running if it doesn't get the number of subs NCSoft were boasting about around release time, they seem to have a track record for killing games off that don't meet expectations.
Just pointing out that its a logical fallacy. Best New Game of 2009 category includes the F2P ones. So if a F2P game is on nominations list of overall category, it also needs to be on the f2p nominations list.
Yikes... that is a big mistake!
I didn't follow Runes of Magic at all... but it would definitely appear that was a bit of an oversight on their part.
It does seem to me that there are rather too many categories; we are going to have a ‘best’ F2P game every year now. <shudder>
What next, “Best Housing System 2010”? I think the site is suffering from awarditis and needs to pull on the reins of this runaway mount.
wow Fallen earth didn't deserve the title best game of the year. It was Microsoft product, and MS know nothing about making games. The fallen earth proves it. I tried to play it. Controls was terrible. Actually to be able to move and kill and use items normally i had to zoom in to 1st person and out to 3th person regular. I played it for 3h. The story they had suck (the beginning one). It was one of the worth games in 2009, not best.
You're kidding right? Wait, it's not April yet...
But you've got to be joking... I've avoided this game like the plague. I've got several friends who played it from launch and who were complete fanboys... Until after the first month. No one that I know personally has stayed with the game for more than a month or so. The game's one really cool idea is just another skill. Flight has little effect on the gameplay.
In my mind the Best New MMO of the year has to have Champions Online. Just my opinion, mind you...
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wow Fallen earth didn't deserve the title best game of the year. It was Microsoft product, and MS know nothing about making games. The fallen earth proves it. I tried to play it. Controls was terrible. Actually to be able to move and kill and use items normally i had to zoom in to 1st person and out to 3th person regular. I played it for 3h. The story they had suck (the beginning one). It was one of the worth games in 2009, not best.
Wow... I'm currently playing Fallen Earth. It's not perfect, by any means, but it's not the worst game of the year. I think you're confusing the game with WoW or some other MMO. The game states up front that it's more like an FPS than a 3rd person game. The controls aren't bad at all. They're just not the same as everything else out there. Although you could certainly make it more like other games if you want to spend the time adjusting things.
The initial story seemed to me to quite logical based on the setting. Was a master stroke of creative process? No, probably not. But did it suck? Absolutely not. The publisher, be it M$ or Blizzivision or Crytpic or whoever, really has nothing to do with the creation of the game. Fallen Earth LLC is responsible for the game and it's content.
The game is not for the "hold my hand and tell me where to go" crowd. It's not for the "I'm too impatient to learn" crowd either. It's got the most robust crafting system of any modern MMO. And it takes time and, God forbid, effort on the user's part to do stuff. So it's not WoW. It's not going to tell you "go to Ankh Morpork to find the string in said quest". When you finish workin' for whoever, you're finished workin' for whoever. Where you go next? Wherever you want.
That having been said, I think FE is worthy of being in the consideration for Best New MMO, but I still think, as I said in my previous post, that Champions Online is still the Best New MMO of 2009.
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AION WAS RELEASED IN 2008 IN ASIA. NEW 2009 GAME??? WTF???
You know I agree with everything you said, I had a blast playing Aion, what killed it for me was the Cesspool Community both in game and on the forums, Ncsoft does zero moderation, WoW by comparison is diligent, Child porn links, anti-Semitism, racists, sexism homophobic remarks hate speech is not only tolerated it even seems to be encouraged by the employees of Ncsoft west, between that, the horrible account security, the gold spam and the bots just make a killer game completely unplayable by a large amount of people.
I recently had a very good friend from Seoul come visit me, he plays the KR version and was just blown away by how the American community behaved. This is shameful he said, we would never act like that, I knew he was speaking the truth because I have visited many gaming Café’s in Soule a couple years back when I was sent there on Bussiness, it is just a night and day culture compared to ours it was literally embarrassing, to show this guy what American gamers could be like.
I may go back to Aion one day but it will be the Chinese or Korean version Ncsoft west is a joke, and should not even be compared to it’s home office in the east.
This sword here at my side dont act the way it should
Keeps calling me its master, but I feel like its slave
Hauling me faster and faster to an early, early grave
And it howls! it howls like hell!
Fallen Earth with it's 2000 subs against the 2nd most played MMO in the world. Seriously, there is no competition between the two.People were expecting FE to be worse then it was. Aion on the other hand has maintained a huge sub base to warrant it's place as the second best/most played MMO.
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no... just no
mmorpg.com is pretty legit compared to massively.com especially since seraphina (the writer that gave Aion the most disappointment of 2009 award) has even admitted to only playing up to lvl 14 with her gladiator when everyone at aionsource called her out on it. they've been trying to save face but it's already been proven by the aion community that her main is lvl 14.
You know I agree with everything you said, I had a blast playing Aion, what killed it for me was the Cesspool Community both in game and on the forums, Ncsoft does zero moderation, WoW by comparison is diligent, Child porn links, anti-Semitism, racists, sexism homophobic remarks hate speech is not only tolerated it even seems to be encouraged by the employees of Ncsoft west, between that, the horrible account security, the gold spam and the bots just make a killer game completely unplayable by a large amount of people.
I recently had a very good friend from Seoul come visit me, he plays the KR version and was just blown away by how the American community behaved. This is shameful he said, we would never act like that, I knew he was speaking the truth because I have visited many gaming Café’s in Soule a couple years back when I was sent there on Bussiness, it is just a night and day culture compared to ours it was literally embarrassing, to show this guy what American gamers could be like.
I may go back to Aion one day but it will be the Chinese or Korean version Ncsoft west is a joke, and should not even be compared to it’s home office in the east.
It's not just in America, there are idiots from all over. Trust me, some of the gaming community in Korea (the kids) are fcking annoying.
About NCwest, I agree. The CEO is Chris Chan, the creator of Arenanet so I don't get it when people try to differentiate the two companies. Ncsoft OWNS Arenanet, it is not just their publisher. It's their subsidiary and arenanet workers work for NCSOFT.
You know I agree with everything you said, I had a blast playing Aion, what killed it for me was the Cesspool Community both in game and on the forums, Ncsoft does zero moderation, WoW by comparison is diligent, Child porn links, anti-Semitism, racists, sexism homophobic remarks hate speech is not only tolerated it even seems to be encouraged by the employees of Ncsoft west, between that, the horrible account security, the gold spam and the bots just make a killer game completely unplayable by a large amount of people.
I recently had a very good friend from Seoul come visit me, he plays the KR version and was just blown away by how the American community behaved. This is shameful he said, we would never act like that, I knew he was speaking the truth because I have visited many gaming Café’s in Soule a couple years back when I was sent there on Bussiness, it is just a night and day culture compared to ours it was literally embarrassing, to show this guy what American gamers could be like.
I may go back to Aion one day but it will be the Chinese or Korean version Ncsoft west is a joke, and should not even be compared to it’s home office in the east.
I have to agree... The westerners are HORRIBLE. No respect for anything, unfriendly, selfish and so on.
The west community made me want to stop playing Aion.
A majority of the complaints about the game are either subjective or having nothing to do with the game mechanics. For example, you think Aion is an "Asian Grinder." I wholeheartedly disagree. I think it's a grind when compared to games like WoW. It is not an Asian grind when compared to FFXI or Lineage 2.
Typical, you bitch about him bitching about Aion but in the first chance you get surprise surprise, bitch about WoW. Face the facts, Aion is not the WoW killer, there never will be a WoW killer as long as they blatantly try to copy it. If you want to make something better you have to innovate not immitate.
The poster in blue should really try reading before typing.
Aion is "ok" and thats about it. After now playing for 3 months, I recently canceled my account. Graphically it is a nice looking game and the crafting is decent. However, I feel the game is unbalanced pvp wise as ranged classes (Scout-Spirit Master-Sorc) have a distinct tactical advantage over playing a melee class. If you played a Gladiator then you know what I am talking about. Also, as much as NC Soft "deals" with the gold sellers, I feel they actually support and allow them because the game feels more like a kinah grind more than anything. I f your not in some uber legion, then your going to be one poor ass mofo unless you spend many hours farming materials and having to pay millions of kinah to master a craft for profit. I tried it, it's ok...Maybe Fallen Earth or Darkfall might be more of What I'm looking for. IMO-Dark Age Of Camelot was the funnest game to play, especially the RVR-PVP aspect.
Congrats Aion!
If you like playing mmo's you should give Aion a try. It's a great game. No the graphics are not ground breaking, but they are beautifull. It's a fun place to be, isn't that what it's all about?
My prediction is the best pvp MMO of 2010 as well once these two big updates come out this year :-)
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Couldn't agree more. Whats funny is how much money mythic would rake in if they actually started to develop DAOC 2
I played both fallen Earth and /Aion both from beta. Purchased both upon release. Aion is way more fun. Fallen earth is 'mediocre' at best while Aion continues to get better.
There are still issues with bots and kinah spammers, but it's not much of an issue if you are out fighting and not loitering around towns doing absolutely nothing.
I quit Aion for monetary reasons and decided to give it a couple of months and see just how much better the bot/spam situation gets since that is my personal biggest turn off.
Best New Game of 2010 > FF14 Online
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