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Ok so after one month these are my reasons for leaving.</p>
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Population, not only is the player population small, but what makes it worse is that, players are never in the same place.</p>
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You see travel is painfully slow, the average vehicle has a max speed of 32 kmph, which is slower than a professional cyclist <br />
So traveling is painfully slow, and to boot the pvp areas are so distant, as a player you would have to go out of your way to arrive at one, probably why you will see no one there and travel back.<br />
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Any time there are more than 50 people in a single "barter" town, the place is trashed with mounts that block the vendors.<br />
And it starts to lag like a mofo.<br />
The graphics engine itself is horribly power hungry with little visual return.<br />
PVP is nonexistent, as I said people would need to go out of their way to arrive at a pvp area.<br />
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Even when you find a handful of players at pvp, you are either insta gibbed by a high levels’ sniper from 100 meters <br />
Or you are ganked by a bunch of low level players, that you can’t touch because you will get a debuff if you kill them.</p>
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<p>All in all pvp isn't worth the bullets spent on it literally there is no reward for killing a guy 10 levels higher then you<br />
Besides some meager "death toll" points used to buy things from a special vendor that supplies ordinary crap.<br />
For a "HARDCORE" no elves, tight pants, or crystals slogan , it should be more like, hey if you want to </p>
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Kill other players at distant locations for little return go ahead! woo! we have that here!</p>
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It costs fuel and bullets to kill someone, in any case, go into pvp and you will come out with less then you went it with.</p>
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MAD MAX, FALLOUT 3. <br />
This game does not resemble these by any stretch of the imagination, The most expensive car, A V8 CAMARO, “Interceptor”<br />
tops off at 48 km/ph not even 32 mph.</p>
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I was looking forward to, high speed car chases, being pwned by a gang of player bandits, alas what I received was<br />
a "pussy" game, where players are restricted from swearing at each other.<br />
When it comes to quests, the term " quantity not quality comes to mind" </p>
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I became one of the richest crafters in S1, I dropped a shit load of chips and I bought a buggy, and found it was only slightly faster than my previous free car.</p>
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Don't get me started on the bugs, I mean it’s the small bugs that eat away at you form the very start but.</p>
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One of them is, You switch to your melee weapon after shooting a rifle, and the reload animation plays on the melee weapon so<br />
you have to wait until the rifle is reloaded before you can start swinging. </p>
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The GFX bugs, don’t fully load textures that are in your immediate for about 10 mins after entering the game, so your gun your car, are blurs.</p>
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Overall this game is too cutesy on its pvp restrictions, Too many bugs, Slow ass boring v8's that can’t go faster than a moped.<br />
I'd like to say something good about this game, and there are a few good things about it, but I feel I would be grasping at straws</p>
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And not to seem one sided, there are more bad points I left out, in respect for the good points.<br />
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Please forgive any spelding dong mistakes, i'm sure there are many english instructors that will cream over this post given the chance,<br />
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<p>damn this sites text editor sucks</p>
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Fixed for you so people actually can read it, but how would people actually read this if you can't even find something as simply like the EDIT button
Fixed for you so people actually can read it, but how would people actually read this if you can't even find something simply like the EDIT button
I'm not sure which makes less sense -- his HTML tag-ridden rambling or your bastardization of English grammar and sentence structure.
I am not English
But OP could atleast have taken out the p/<br> things to make it more pleasant to read it, sorry for trying to help in my not perfect English way.
S1 PvP does pretty much suck. Haven't had time to play since 1.3 hit, but I'm pretty sure S1 will just suck in general for a while.
But I'm cool with that personally, though it does prevent the idea of leveling efficently through PvP at all ranges, which does still suck.
Now, S2/S3 PvP, when that gets going, its a bit more fun. Sure, there's some quest-grind needed to flip the towns, but managing that control, fighting off attacks from rival factions, guild v guild fights that just happen. While it's not all it could be, for an Indie game that decided to take a lot of risks in a single game, they have a great mid/high-end foundation, and are progressivly working on it.
If you did cancel, but since you still have your account, I'd also say give it another month or two when the PvP update patch is released in a few months.
For population size, meh, it's "dense" enough for a wasteland environment. If you want super hustle-bustle, not many games can really offer that consistently, EVE/WoW probably being the 2 major exceptions. It definitely helps to try and find a guild or make some friends early on just for the whisper chats, but it can get lonely at points.
For the high-speed chase scenarios, I'm right there with you, I'd love to see them, but can appreciate the fact that they're probably not even working with the same level of resources that a number of already canceled games had (AutoAssault for genre, Tabula Rasa for lord crazy.) I'm sure they want them in there to.
But they had to either start earning money and continually add/update, or keep working towards the holistically fictional, will-never-exist "Perfect Game thats Pefectly Balanaced; Rhetoric, Rhetoric, Rhetoric". They went with money, they've added a good chunk of content, they've posted their plans and acted on them for a down-the-road layout.
I still see this game pulling an EVE down the long road of time. It'll never be a juggernaught, but it's updates will get it a well known, dedicated playerbase that's playing the game because of what it offers and appeals to in them as players. It's not for everyone, but if you've got some semblemance of "roots" set and your characters skills are a mess, it's going to be a game worth checking in on every 6 months just to see what they've done.
Lets Push Things Forward
I knew I would live to design games at age 7, issue 5 of Nintendo Power.
Support games with subs when you believe in their potential, even in spite of their flaws.
as it is painful to read the OP, its the same feeling as playing FE. games should be fun from the get go, not S2 or S3...
OP has a few points that i agree on but the biggest one: its a PvE grinder with crafting is never mentioned. FE is a WoW style quest avalanche, with poorly designed areas with plenty (!) of resources in the middle of the post apocalyptic desert.
I know this was to be Fallout/Mad Max MMO but it fails to do that. It's not full of road warriors/bandits but tailors, cooks, pot makers, etc.
So if you want to feel how it is to mend pots and make salads (!) in a post apocalypse please enjoy FE, otherwise i recommend Fallout.
Your opinions are noted, bye...
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I was going to take the time to respond to the OP but it's plainly obvious he/she simply doesn't like the game.
There are reasons for moderating the speed of vehicles, balance issues in place for the reload animations, etc but the OP really seems more interested in tearing the game down and spouting mis-information than learning why these things are in place .
As for the graphics, maybe your box just isn't up to running FE, or you just don't know how to tweak your computer. I say this as someone that is running the game smoothly on medium settings with a computer that is significantly below minimum specs. I have experienced none of the graphical issues you comment on. Taking a few minutes to read the official forums would supply you with what setting you should try to get the most out of the game graphically if you are having problems.
Enjoy your next game OP.
Einherjar_LC says: WTB the true successor to UO or Asheron's Call pst!
1.5 patch will be about combat and PvP, factions, more levels etc. But it will take time until that one is out...
Yesterday I was done with my 10 days trail and now I got the full game. I enjoy it, but I also agree with you at some points.
I don't know how easy it is for them to change this game, but it need more bandits and less crafting. I didn't buy this game to walk around and make food. I like the old Fallout games and I'm a fan of the Mad Max movies. If only this game could have more of that. Add motorcycle gangs at random places or NPC raids against towns.
The PvP zone also need to be bigger or make a servers that are PvE, PvP and RP.
And vehicles need more speed. Make it even harder to make the best ones, but make them also much better. I like the idea of Gas and Food, but it runs out so fast...
I hope they can fix this game or I'm not going to stay that long.
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Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)
Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)
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there are a lot of realy great things about this game but there are some really really sucky points that pretty much make it a pain to play. It feels like a crappy version of Fallout 3 with an in built instant messenger. Even after you join a guild you wont see them much at all just help with mats and have ppl to talk to other than those in help channel. The main problems i have is the Quest Grind and not only that the quests are all pretty much identical. Another big problem is the faction grind which completely sucks nuts too. The developers obviously think content = grind because once pl get to max lvl and do their factions there is nothing to do and getting to that point is so tiresome it takes the fun out of the game.
I pretty much agree with the OP, except I was bored 5 days into my 10 day retrial. I played FE in beta and a couple months after launch, then decided to give it another shot with the 10 day come back trial Level 29 hanging aournd north sector 2. Im still kind of bored. Missions are repetitive (kill ten rats/chota or collect 10 questionable meat). PVE AI is still dumb as rocks. I wet into a conflict town looking for some challege, missions there are the same, there was no actual conflict going on, didnt see a soul. Theres no gloabl chat, and no one talks in regional so there nothing social to do. Made myself a new gun, its got 3dps more, whoopie. Made some ammo, ran around on my moto a bit. Fell asleep, no reason to play really.
Solution? A zone just for free for all pvp with full looting and meaningful territory control. IE, you can live there and never have a reason to leave. Survivial depends on thinking smart and grouping up to control your own safety. Sandbox basically.
Vehicle speeds, besides being balance related, are limited by the minimum system specs. Anything past 49 kph would require higher minimum specs, according to the devs.
Shot at 100 meters - Really? There might be one rifle with 80 meter range, most are maxed out at 70 meters. Exaggeration. Designed this way so that melee players have a chance, though there are still some balance problems. Rifle players claim that they are owned by melee players, so this 'I was slaughtered at long range' claim is... suspect.
Swearing - Yes, suprise suprise, this game actually requires you to obey the rules, which are the same as pretty much all other MMO's... no obscenity/profanity/hate language.
Unlike those other MMO's, this one has a large GM staff, which is always on, always monitoring, and not afraid to come down on rule breakers.
Several of the OP's stated graphics problems sound more like 'insufficient computer' than anything else. I've seen all too many folks complaining on the FE forums that the game plays terribly, and when gotten to tell what their system is like, have computers with less than half the MINIMUM requirements.
It's an MMO. It takes a very powerful computer to get 'good' framerates. If you don't meet the 'recommended' requirements, it's not going to run well. RAM especially is in high demand, the game executable by itself takes 1.8 GB of RAM. The textures loading into your Video Card will reach 7-800 MB, if you have that much.
I agree with everything you said but the swearing issue....Its a Mature game AND the NPC's swear. Its really stupid you can get your hand slapped for saying a word that NPCs in the game say. Period.
Swear in /region or /local, no worries, do you see NPC's swear in the /helpchannel? So is it really that hard to understand you simply can not swear in the /help channel, and why do people asume that mature means swearing, swearing is kinda inmature but hey......
In fact, yes, the rules about language apply to all chat channels.
It's simply far more likely that you'll be CAUGHT on the Help Channel.
The GM's will enforce the rules on region, local, auction, and clan, too. Mostly, that would happen only if someone complained, but be aware that all chat is logged, and available to the GM's, so a complaint with time of occurance can be checked, and dealt with.
The game's rating covers what the Devs program in, under their complete control. The chat channels are not under dev control as to exactly what is said, and fall under the game's Code of Conduct.
I'd have to sadly agree with nearly everything he posted, but the thing that most strongly affects me is the PvP:
The PvP in FE is very bad due to it's limitations, crappy rewards, difficulty of access and balancing issues.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
Yes Melee have too much power and it looks like it's going to take time for the Devs to fix that...
Patch 1.5 will add more PvP content.
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Same for me AGREE , the trial will pull you in i subbed after only 2 days on trial i loved it so much .
THEN its starts to slowly get to you until you start thinking man , i hate grinders but this game isnt a grinder but im grinding mats non stop instead of mobs (farming grinding) and then it hits you after you get to the next town (are you kidding me ? i just crafted and farmed for days to make my gear and now i have to do it all over again?)
I unsubbed after 2 weeks out of utter boredom this is my opinion and it had potential but as for now ( repetitive as a japanese grinder) They just need more things to do in game .(something). crafting is great but it only keeps ya glued for so long.. I even posted a positive msg on the forums when i first started because i liked it so much but then it went downhill fast for me..
THESE ARE ALL PERSONAL OPINIONS..
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This game to me was like a hot chick that looks so good and then when you finally kiss her she has no teeth.. (uggh)
Farm while you adventure, craft while you are logged off.
If you found the game grindy, maybe that's because you made it as such? Nothing in this game takes days to make unless you are making a vehicle. You can craft new armor and new weapons for you character in about 1-2 hours, which can take place while you adventure, or while you're logged off....hardly grindy IMO.
*shrug* To each their own I suppose. I have been in FE for about 4 months now and absolutely enjoying myself. I have so many materials for crafting in my vaults I'm trying to make crap up to craft when I log off just to burn some of them up.
Einherjar_LC says: WTB the true successor to UO or Asheron's Call pst!
Ok, I don't get how you say its grindy? You honestly don't need to make anything if you don't want to, you can go adventure, team up with people, run group missions, and then buy whatever you would need in the AH. I've been selling excess iron / wool on the AH, and have been making a pretty penny - and like the guy above me said, crafting when I'm offline. I set up a chain of 10-20 items and I'm out.
Now in relation to the OP, here goes...
Population, not only is the player population small, but what makes it worse is that, players are never in the same place.
Player pop is healthy, there's always people in towns, there's usually people in the wild, and it's growing. And why do you want all players in the same place... The world is large, there's more than just 1 major hub.
You see travel is painfully slow, the average vehicle has a max speed of 32 kmph, which is slower than a professional cyclist.So traveling is painfully slow, and to boot the pvp areas are so distant, as a player you would have to go out of your way to arrive at one, probably why you will see no one there and travel back.
PvP areas distant? there's one a stones throw away from Depot 66, you ca run there in 2 minutes. Will there be people PvPing, dunno, prob not, its S1, and the PvP starts later on, but if you want why not hold an event, not too complicated. Ya know. And travelling slow? It seems perfectly fine to me, for one I'm glad I cant teleport around the entire place in 25 seconds takes away from the immersion, and if you want to talk about slow travel, try EVE
Any time there are more than 50 people in a single "barter" town, the place is trashed with mounts that block the vendors. And it starts to lag like a mofo.
That's your comp's fault amigo, I'm on a laptop, play with mid settings and never see my FPS lower than 15-20 in towns, not great, but manageable. Outside 40-60 fps.
The graphics engine itself is horribly power hungry with little visual return.
Like I said, could be your comp, if you put all settings on high/very high, the game looks brill.
PVP is nonexistent, as I said people would need to go out of their way to arrive at a pvp area.
S2? S3? And really, not that far out of the way.
Even when you find a handful of players at pvp, you are either insta gibbed by a high levels’ sniper from 100 meters
Or you are ganked by a bunch of low level players, that you can’t touch because you will get a debuff if you kill them.
All in all pvp isn't worth the bullets spent on it literally there is no reward for killing a guy 10 levels higher then you
Besides some meager "death toll" points used to buy things from a special vendor that supplies ordinary crap.
For a "HARDCORE" no elves, tight pants, or crystals slogan , it should be more like, hey if you want to Kill other players at distant locations for little return go ahead! woo! we have that here!
It costs fuel and bullets to kill someone, in any case, go into pvp and you will come out with less then you went it with.
OMG firing a gun uses bullets? No! driving a car uses fluel.... the audacity of the development team. I sewar. and how about pvp being fun for well, pvp' sake, theyre putting in an achievement system in a bit, and I dunno about you, but i like killing people for the fun of it. why must it always be about "getting something in return"
MAD MAX, FALLOUT 3.
This game does not resemble these by any stretch of the imagination, The most expensive car, A V8 CAMARO, “Interceptor”tops off at 48 km/ph not even 32 mph.
this isn't falout, this isn't mad max, it's fallen earth, it's a different intellectual property, you might as well say, it's not "a boy and his dog", or it's not "solarbabies". Waaah. It's not supposed to be - do you see mad max, or fallout anywhere in the title, no, so please... stop comparing them.
I was looking forward to, high speed car chases, being pwned by a gang of player bandits, alas what I received was
a "pussy" game, where players are restricted from swearing at each other.
When it comes to quests, the term " quantity not quality comes to mind"
this is the only game in about 5 years where I'm actually reading the quests because they're so funny, and engaging. Apparently you didn't really care to do that.
I became one of the richest crafters in S1, I dropped a shit load of chips and I bought a buggy, and found it was only slightly faster than my previous free car.
Why didn't you just make one if you were an über crafter? and why do people always pick out some miniscule minute details and say its game breaking, i mean wtf.... chill enjoy the game, and take it easy.
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