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Hya1221
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I played almost every MMO that is out there including FFXI. I was so excited for 14. I check my email daily for a beta invite and check their official site for updates. It seems everytime new info surfaces about the game it looks less and less appealing. We have gone from the classes we are used to playing in a FF game to european boxers? If that doesn't start to raise questions we got the Pugilist can steal? Your telling me a person with like foot long claws can reach into someone's pockets and take their money? ok... and also that person can tank...right.. whistle while u work? ok..
I understand the approach with FFXIV is to different from FFXI enough that its base of players will stay there while FFXIV builds its own as well. Understandable and don't get me wrong i think FFXIV gameplay will be amazing. Probably some of the best gameplay we have ever seen in a MMO. This doesn't change the fact the classes/characters are sketchy and lil unappealing. If I can't get into my character and enjoy him then I will lose interest as will everyone else and the game will go down the same path every post-WoW MMO has. I don't think FFXIV will fail. I do however think if it doesn't get proper info out there to secure the interest then people will come into their game with doubts and leave with hate.
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I've read the OP's full post, and decided not to reply.
Where'd you read the Pugilist can steal? If you're reading the latest little snippets that have been circulating (that are unconfirmed BTW), it states the Pugilist can steal abilities... never said items.
From FFXIVcore.com: http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/4268-famitsu-and-dengeki-leak-rumors/
Pugilist
* whistle (FF11's taunt) and steal abilities
Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, then beat you with experience.
Alright so you're butthurt that you're not in beta yet so now you think it's going to somehow fail some peoples expectations of the game.
I read the beginning and end of your post.
But technically....you did. 'O_o'
I think we all have allot of time to still wait for any release of this game.
this is my Final Reply XI
I am entitled to my opinions, misspellings, and grammatical errors.
We barely have any info on the game as it is and you're predicting it's failure? Give it time.
Well i will say this. fSquare can make teh game how ever they want to make it and teh terms and titles mean whatever they want to mean. you need to open your mind to there meanings and not what your used to. If you cant do that, then your right, this may not be for you
So OP you are mainly upset because they changed the classes names and their roles around a little bit?
If you want to play XI, go play XI, I am...
I'm also waiting anxiously for 14.
They've used "Lancer" in games before, they've swapped them with "Dragoon" several times now. Monk has been called "Black belt" in other Final fantasy games, in this one they went with the name Pugilist because it fits the game's concept better.
I'm sorry if you find the TINY Amount of info on the classes unappealing, you are in a minority, everyone I am speaking with who I play MMO's with is sitting on the edge of their seats waiting for the next tiny bit of leaked info. Everything we've heard about the new mage classes are amazing! Being able to specialize in specific elements? Amazing!
I'm so excited for the new classes, I don't see how you could be upset about them at all. Try picking up 13, maybe you'll get a better idea of what they're going for in play style for 14 from it. Party vs Party. Switching "roles" in combat quickly and effectively. This game is like nothing we've seen so far.
Edit: I'd also like to ad, you should know by now Square Enix is the MASTER of keeping things under wraps, just check out FF13 Versus, that game has such a TINY Amount of info leaked on it and its been in development since 2003...
SE doesn't have the problems Blizz does with having Cataclysm info ENTIRELY leaked months before the announcement, you don't know what SE is doing until they WANT You to.
They are fully aware of what they are doing, they want to only feed you tiny tid bits to whet your appetite. You say you've played 11, they did this with that game as well, only leaking the info they WANTED you to know, making you guess at everything else, look how they kept the level 99 cap increase hidden for over 3 years while they worked on it. They only let you know what they want you to know.
Change is good for a game why should it be the same old game other wise its not a new game.
Also i like guys like you who say he speaks for everyone gimmie a break i think the game still looks good and you are not speaking for me just because you want the same ole boring game, i want a new refreashing totally differant game to learn
I really don't want to see people like this OP in game. It's going to be rough until they all quit their subs.
your bitchin cause a monk like class can steal? really??? you must be sooooo pissed rangers can flee XD
its a new game and things are going to be set up diffrently....GET OVER IT
Dude, really? I'm stoked about the new classes. I want a pugelist, badly, I love fist weapons and FFXIV is the first I've heard of to have a class really built this way. Everquest monks used their fists, but the weapons never were very cool looking, if they had a look at all. Then the Theurgist (sp) is a mage that works off HP more than MP, this also sounds pretty new to me, I know VG had a blood mage, but that was a healer where this is a full on offensive class.
Those two are the ones that really grab me, but they all sound great.
To OP:
I checked my email too, but I recieved an invite.
I just thought I would share that with you
lol my thoughts exactly. All people ever say about mmos is that they are the same thing over and over every game. Then SE and the ff14 crew change things up a little bit and we already got whiners. Aww noo don't change anything!!! lol so annoying.
lol my thoughts exactly. All people ever say about mmos is that they are the same thing over and over every game. Then SE and the ff14 crew change things up a little bit and we already got whiners. Aww noo don't change anything!!! lol so annoying.
Thirded.
LOL, best post i have seen in a while
the missing link in a chain of destruction.
All spelling and typographical errors are based soely on the fact that i just dont care. If you must point out my lack of atention to detail, please do it with a smile.
Actually that bullet point says they have those two abilities, one is taunt and the the other is steal. Not steal abilities.
Actually that bullet point says they have those two abilities, one is taunt and the the other is steal. Not steal abilities.
www.eorzeapedia.com/2010/03/11/detailed-class-info-from-famitsu-and-4gamer/#more-2576
Different translations, I suppose.
"Pugilist Abilities:
Whistle: Gain the attention of the enemy
Blind Side: Increased damage when you attack from behind the enemy
Chakra: Use TP to regain HP
Steal: Steal things from the enemy
Feather Step: Increase evasion by a large amount for one shot"
Youll have to wait to see if this unusual combo of abilities works out. From what I've seen, and unles I'm mistaken, there isnt a Thief class, so the steal ability needs to go somewhere. If you played XI, do you remember how much it sucked assembling a party and needing a tank?
The more classes with taunt, the better as far as Final Fantasy goes imo..
So we all agree its ok for someone with giant fighting claws can steal mid fight? ok just wanted to make sure. Thank you all for your jabs and flames I expected no less from the lovely community here at MMORPG.com. Everyone just treated the thread like "OP" wanted to down the game when im stating simple things that don't make sense. I agree with Archer as a great solo and I think its wonderful a MMO finally made it so a tradeskill based character can actually repair players items and make reasonable profit and I think the Maurader and the Gladiator have great basis but unfortunately the Pugilist who as far as I know is a boxer at least according to the name could be butchered. Its speculation. Take it for what its worth. I still have hopes the game can pull thru.
EDIT: I could care less for a beta invite. I have beta tested a few games and so much changes from beta to launch that its really hard to get a firm grasp on what to expect. Some classes may seem powerful some weak and that could be flipped come launch.
/butthurt....apparantly
In all due respect, it seems like you don't like change and you wanted FFXIV to be a carbon copy of FFXI with better graphics. From what details i've read, I get more and more excited about the game.
Also, your concerns are premature and entirely subjective. You're trying rationalize what classes should or should not be able to do, but those classes in FFXI were created by SE. There is no rule that a monk/pugilist should be the same class design in FFXI. I like the blending of classes into unique new classes.
FFXI needed to evolve, if there was some fundamental shift in class design or at least something very new to look forward to, then there's no reason to play FFXIV over FFXI other than better graphics.
I for one love everything I've heard about FFXIV and can't wait to start playing ASAP.
you re moaning about things that havnt happened yet?
actually it makes more sence to me. the guy with daggers has his hands full, so unless he puts one of them away he cant steal either. As a pugilst you actually have fingers free so you could stop gripping the knuckles (they would fall back twords your arms, making most of your hands free) so that you could grab stuff then essentially "flip them back up and grip them again to fight, which is quicker then putting away/taking out daggers.
Yes i was going to post on that yesterday,but i decided not to.The classes ,actually the entire game is pretty darn close to the exact same FFXI game,only they are removing levels and changing names of classes,abilties and moving them around the different classes.
Did we really need to change whistle a name used to call your Chocobo to replace Provoke?Whistle actually sounds dumb for naming a hate control mechanic.If anything maybe a Beastmaster type of ability,witch would be close to calling a pet ,it makes 100x more sense.
Something that is disturbing is that FFXI showed a LOT of thought behind every move,while FFXIV seems like a totally different person is behind the changes.Somebody inside Square is really putting their time stamp on this game.
One of the most glaring mistakes,that shows they put no thought or common sense to it is the ability to drain MP.Here is what they said,they did not like the fact that you NEEDED A puller,so they wanted to remove Camps.Well is that not why they made this new versatile class system,so you could have any class you needed?
Further more if you are going to create a MOVING camp system,why would you create mechanics like the drain mp to slow down the movement of camps?It is counter productive to itself.SO many other things in FFXIV seem to be poorly thought out.
This tells me someone new is influencing the decisions,or the challenge to bring us high end graphics and gaming has rushed the game design.I think the latter is obvious,as they said they don't even have some of the Character customization done yet?HUH?That is like something that would have been finished 1-2 years ago,so they definitely have been spending all their resources working the code and graphics and little on the game.They said they had to totally rework the code for the Xbox 360 and the new game engine,so it has been like making 2/3/4 games for Square to work across PS3/Xbox and PC.
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