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Medical Cannabis User Fired From Walmart
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This I think is a load of shit, the guy didnt deserve to lose his job, whats everyone else think on the subject?
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Yeah he definetly looks like he's on more than just pot.
I think he looks like he's doing something besides Medical Marijuana.
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Hmm, there has to be something else to this story, unless the US employment laws are a bit too iffy?
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He should be fired. He tested positive for drugs.
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This. He should have notified Wal Mart when he applied for the job. They wouldn't have hired him to begin with if that were the case.
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This. He should have notified Wal Mart when he applied for the job. They wouldn't have hired him to begin with if that were the case.
So people who are using legal drugs are not allowed to have jobs? It's ironic how using marijuana legally will get you fired, but using legal psychotropic drugs won't. I can think of things over the counter that will impair your ability 100x more than any amount of marijuana could. The entire idea that using nominal amounts of marijuana outside of the job could make somebody dangerous on the job is ludicrous and nothing more than propaganda.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
This. He should have notified Wal Mart when he applied for the job. They wouldn't have hired him to begin with if that were the case.
So people who are using legal drugs are not allowed to have jobs? It's ironic how using marijuana legally will get you fired, but using legal psychotropic drugs won't. I can think of things over the counter that will impair your ability 100x more than any amount of marijuana could. The entire idea that using nominal amounts of marijuana outside of the job could make somebody dangerous on the job is ludicrous and nothing more than propaganda.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I don't agree with Wal Mart's policy, but it's policy nonetheless. I also agree that salvia, coricidin, air duster, and a multitude of other things rock your socks a lot more than tweed will. I also agree that smoking a bowl after work is not dangerous, nor does it affect job performance. But I don't run Wal Mart, so it doesn't really matter what I think.
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This. He should have notified Wal Mart when he applied for the job. They wouldn't have hired him to begin with if that were the case.
So people who are using legal drugs are not allowed to have jobs? It's ironic how using marijuana legally will get you fired, but using legal psychotropic drugs won't. I can think of things over the counter that will impair your ability 100x more than any amount of marijuana could. The entire idea that using nominal amounts of marijuana outside of the job could make somebody dangerous on the job is ludicrous and nothing more than propaganda.
It's the policy of a private company.
In America I have bad teeth. If I lived in England my teeth would be perfect.
This. He should have notified Wal Mart when he applied for the job. They wouldn't have hired him to begin with if that were the case.
So people who are using legal drugs are not allowed to have jobs? It's ironic how using marijuana legally will get you fired, but using legal psychotropic drugs won't. I can think of things over the counter that will impair your ability 100x more than any amount of marijuana could. The entire idea that using nominal amounts of marijuana outside of the job could make somebody dangerous on the job is ludicrous and nothing more than propaganda.
It's the policy of a private company.
A policy, which is complete garbage. I'm generally not for government intervention, but for cases as ridiculous as these I think old Uncle Sam should step in and take care of business. The issue is really moral, since economically few people use medical marijuana; I don't think allowing legal medical marijuana use will suddenly cause employees to start going on accident rampages and hurting people. If the marginal insurance cost for such an employee is high, then the government needs to take it up with the insurance agencies instead.
Turning a blind eye, however, is unacceptable.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I don't agree with Wal Mart's policy, but it's policy nonetheless. I also agree that salvia, coricidin, air duster, and a multitude of other things rock your socks a lot more than tweed will. I also agree that smoking a bowl after work is not dangerous, nor does it affect job performance. But I don't run Wal Mart, so it doesn't really matter what I think.
Wait, isn't it the government's duty to ensure that policies like these aren't made? I could have sworn that people were paying tax dollars for something... must have been my imagination.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I don't agree with Wal Mart's policy, but it's policy nonetheless. I also agree that salvia, coricidin, air duster, and a multitude of other things rock your socks a lot more than tweed will. I also agree that smoking a bowl after work is not dangerous, nor does it affect job performance. But I don't run Wal Mart, so it doesn't really matter what I think.
Wait, isn't it the government's duty to ensure that policies like these aren't made? I could have sworn that people were paying tax dollars for something... must have been my imagination.
It is the policy, regulations and law of the U.S. national government that the use, sale, purchase and possession of marijuana is illegal. Why would they also have a policy that a private company should allow their employees to violate those same national policies, regulations and laws that call the act illegal?
It is the policy, regulations and law of the U.S. national government that the use, sale, purchase and possession of marijuana is illegal. Why would they also have a policy that a private company should allow their employees to violate those same national policies, regulations and laws that call the act illegal?
Maybe you didn't read the part about it being LEGAL use of medical marijuana. It's the state's responsibility to ensure that corporations are following their own policies as well.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
It is the policy, regulations and law of the U.S. national government that the use, sale, purchase and possession of marijuana is illegal. Why would they also have a policy that a private company should allow their employees to violate those same national policies, regulations and laws that call the act illegal?
Maybe you didn't read the part about it being LEGAL use of medical marijuana. It's the state's responsibility to ensure that corporations are following their own policies as well.
The U.S. national government does not recognize a state's legislation making it's use legal. I also do not see any article as stated in the original post on that link.
Well it showed up the second time I tried the link.
This. He should have notified Wal Mart when he applied for the job. They wouldn't have hired him to begin with if that were the case.
So people who are using legal drugs are not allowed to have jobs? It's ironic how using marijuana legally will get you fired, but using legal psychotropic drugs won't. I can think of things over the counter that will impair your ability 100x more than any amount of marijuana could. The entire idea that using nominal amounts of marijuana outside of the job could make somebody dangerous on the job is ludicrous and nothing more than propaganda.
It's the policy of a private company.
A policy, which is complete garbage. I'm generally not for government intervention, but for cases as ridiculous as these I think old Uncle Sam should step in and take care of business. The issue is really moral, since economically few people use medical marijuana; I don't think allowing legal medical marijuana use will suddenly cause employees to start going on accident rampages and hurting people. If the marginal insurance cost for such an employee is high, then the government needs to take it up with the insurance agencies instead.
Turning a blind eye, however, is unacceptable.
Well, I went back and read the article and things become less clear but in this case I would actually side with the individual. Most states don't have provisions protecting medical marijuana users. However, the state of Michigan does as follows:
Michigan is another story. The state’s law includes some legal shields for workers.
“You can’t discriminate against a person if you have a medical marijuana card, and if they use it for medicinal purposes,” said James McCurtis, a spokesman for Michigan’s Department of Community Health that oversees the medical marijuana program.
That being said he should keep his job. Now we come to another question. Is it possible to test and see if he smoked up just before work and is under the influence or did he smoke up the night before? This really is a tough call.
In America I have bad teeth. If I lived in England my teeth would be perfect.
Well, I went back and read the article and things become less clear but in this case I would actually side with the individual. Most states don't have provisions protecting medical marijuana users. However, the state of Michigan does as follows:
Michigan is another story. The state’s law includes some legal shields for workers.
“You can’t discriminate against a person if you have a medical marijuana card, and if they use it for medicinal purposes,” said James McCurtis, a spokesman for Michigan’s Department of Community Health that oversees the medical marijuana program.
That being said he should keep his job. Now we come to another question. Is it possible to test and see if he smoked up just before work and is under the influence or did he smoke up the night before? This really is a tough call.
It is impossible to tell with standard tests. They would have to make one specifically for him, but I doubt they would go through the trouble to do that; it's just easier to fire him and state that they were merely enforcing policy. However, that is the main issue: States not enforcing their own policies when it comes to corporations.
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if walmart doesn't want people working for them doing drugs then they can fire them if they want even if all drugs were legal. I should be able to hire someone even if they do drugs or not though.
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I think testing for anything is dumb. Just because a person tests positive for weed, doesn't mean they're stoned at work. What a person does at home isn't Wal-Mart's business at all. I smoke every day and I never get high at work, at any job. But I do when I come home. It helps me focus on one thing at a time and helps me relax. If I didn't smoke I'd get 2-3 hours of sleep a night. I'm an insomniac.
Now I can see testing for hard drugs like crack or meth. These people are more prone to real crime. They're also more likely to come to work under the influence. They'll steal to feed their habits. problem here is some of the harder drugs only stay in your system for a few days. Where weed will stay in your system for up to 90 days depending on how much body fat you have. So really the drug testing only discriminates against the people using the lesser evil. if I ran a business, I'd be more worried about alcoholics and meth addicts. Marijuana doesn't make you dysfunctional. Despite what Reefer Madness will have you believe.
If he was using it medically and legally, I don't see a problem with this person as long as they stay straight during work. The laws are changing though. Many states are starting to legalize in some fashion.
Why not just admit drug use during the interview process? Just answer the questions honestly then let the company decide if they want to hire you or not. This could save money wasted in making people take tests.
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If I'm understanding you right, you're saying employers should just ask their employees if they are drug free and take their word for it? I don't think that would work very well, especially for, you know, school bus drivers or pilots. Stuff like that.
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If I'm understanding you right, you're saying employers should just ask their employees if they are drug free and take their word for it? I don't think that would work very well, especially for, you know, school bus drivers or pilots. Stuff like that.
Not taking their word for it, test them as well. I wouldn't want someone working for me who lied and was using drugs. Makes it two times worse.
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If I'm understanding you right, you're saying employers should just ask their employees if they are drug free and take their word for it? I don't think that would work very well, especially for, you know, school bus drivers or pilots. Stuff like that.
Not taking their word for it, test them as well. I wouldn't want someone working for me who lied and was using drugs. Makes it two times worse.
Just seems kind of pointless to ask if you're going to test anyway. 99.9% of people aren't going to say they just tooted a fat rail before they walked in for the interview.
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Must be welfare mart is slipping..Most places i know test you for drugs before they hire some one....
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Wal-Mart has a no drug policy? How do they find employees?
I feel like if you get fired from WalMart...you are really, really useless.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
He has cancer in his brain. That's the real issue here, he's not a presentable person for the prestigious Wal Mart thus he deserved to be terminated.
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